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rdvance
03-28-08, 18:17
I can get Prvi M193 for 320/k and found some Federal XM193 for 350/k is it worth the difference? Im relatively new to the AR game and have shot some Federal at work but havent ever used the Prvi 5.56
petey1
03-28-08, 18:39
I like the Prvi M193, it's nice stuff. I've shot several hundred rounds through both of my guns without incident. I'm pretty sure others will also chime in on this, but I'd go with the Prvi. There are several reviews of it here and there if you do a search, and I haven't seen much (if any) negative feedback. Good luck:)
WS6
03-29-08, 13:38
Prvi is good stuff, but if it were me I would go with the LC.
gyp_c2
03-29-08, 15:38
...where'd you say that LC was? http://emoticons4u.com/smoking/rauch06.gif
Shihan
03-29-08, 16:37
...where'd you say that LC was? http://emoticons4u.com/smoking/rauch06.gif

Its not hard to find these days.
gyp_c2
03-30-08, 14:08
...really?...@ 350. a thousand?
I haven't seen it lately at that price...That's why I asked...No big deal to me though. I'm still shootin' PP right now. I can't see much difference for my use anyways...It's just a little better price than I'd seen since Wideners' ran out...http://emoticons4u.com/smoking/rauch06.gif
rdvance
03-30-08, 14:24
the prvi was at wideners i live about 30 mnts from there. But the LC was at Outdoor Marksman but you have to get a promo code off of TOS.
gyp_c2
03-30-08, 14:31
...tanx...http://emoticons4u.com/smoking/rauch06.gif
IrishDevil
03-30-08, 22:07
Prvi if it's cheaper, I've used both and can't tell any difference between the two.
Shihan
04-01-08, 01:20
...really?...@ 350. a thousand?
I haven't seen it lately at that price...That's why I asked...No big deal to me though. I'm still shootin' PP right now. I can't see much difference for my use anyways...It's just a little better price than I'd seen since Wideners' ran out...http://emoticons4u.com/smoking/rauch06.gif

Natchez had Federal/LC M193 for 349.50 per k before they sold out a week or 2 back.
RogerinTPA
04-05-08, 11:55
Prvi is GTG. Someone on another thread says www.wideners.com still has it for $320.00 per 1K. Correction, just checked, it's now $330 per 1K.
decodeddiesel
04-05-08, 12:19
I really don't see any good reason to go with LC over PRVI. It's both loaded to M193 spec, performance is more a matter of lot number rather than manufacturer. Save the $30 go with PRVI.
Failure2Stop
04-05-08, 18:55
I remember hearing something about lack of fragmentation from Wolf/PRVI. Anybody have solid, current info on that?
rdvance
04-05-08, 19:07
Well i ended up going with Prvi since i was ordering a few other calibers and wideners had everything i needed from one place. but i have heard the lack of frag with the wolf/prvi but im hoping since the new prvi has changed the propellant and is supposed to be real M193 they maybe changed the projectile to a more correct one. Ill see when i get time to get to the range. Otherwise i would have probably went with the LC. but for most range use i cant see why it would matter much but for shtf ammo id probably stick with LC.
Shihan
04-05-08, 22:46
I remember hearing something about lack of fragmentation from Wolf/PRVI. Anybody have solid, current info on that?

The test on that was a backyard test buy one of the young guys on here and pretty much dont for fun.
decodeddiesel
04-07-08, 09:43
I remember hearing something about lack of fragmentation from Wolf/PRVI. Anybody have solid, current info on that?

Sorry to quote TOS but here's that frag test:

http://www.ar15.com/lite/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=271478

Mind you this was with the older Wolf/PRVI. Still looks like acceptable performance to me. I haven't seen anything on the new PRVI unfortunately. I have the facilities available to conduct testing myself if someone wants to spot me some ballistics gel ;)
markm
04-07-08, 11:28
I remember hearing something about lack of fragmentation from Wolf/PRVI. Anybody have solid, current info on that?

I'm going to have to get some water jugs and rig a set up to capture the bullet.

The test done here was point blank into a barrel of water out of a 20" weapon. If that doesn't frag, I don't know what will.
Failure2Stop
04-07-08, 15:59
Sorry to quote TOS but here's that frag test:

http://www.ar15.com/lite/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=271478

Mind you this was with the older Wolf/PRVI. Still looks like acceptable performance to me. I haven't seen anything on the new PRVI unfortunately. I have the facilities available to conduct testing myself if someone wants to spot me some ballistics gel ;)

DD-
Thanks. I could only read page 1 before my head hurt.

There is a note and a gel-shot on the AFCOM ammo-oracle (http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm), that determined it to have low velocity, thick jacket, and sub-optimal performance, but that info is dated.

I have not seen any credible testing since, and would really like some good chrony/gel info.
decodeddiesel
04-07-08, 16:13
DD-
Thanks. I could only read page 1 before my head hurt.


Haha, indeed!