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22_Shooter
03-28-08, 20:51
So there has been some discrepancy on another site, about my buffer.

I have a 16" carbine, with a carbine gas system. I bought my lower completely assembled with an Ace ARFX stock attached. I don't know jack about buffers, so I've been looking for answer. I was told I might not wanna shoot my rifle with my current buffer. It's the same buffer as this - http://www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/buffers/6600bfr1.jpg . From looking at the comparison site that pic came from, it's an HBAR buffer - http://www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/buffers/ . I was told that it is a rifle buffer, and I shouldn't run it in my carbine.

I just wanna get a straight answer before I fire it. Is it OK to run? I will probably end up getting a different buffer down the road anyway, but I just wanna know if I'm ok for now with this setup.

tuff
03-28-08, 21:19
That stock is sold with a carbine buffer, how did a Hbar length buffer find its way in there????

I would get a carbine buffer.....

22_Shooter
03-28-08, 21:57
I ordered it online and that's how it came assembled:confused: .

ETA: Should I ask the company to send me a carbine buffer for free?

warpigM-4
03-28-08, 22:05
I would not shoot it!Get a carbine buffer!

warpigM-4
03-28-08, 22:09
I ordered it online and that's how it came assembled:confused: .

ETA: Should I ask the company to send me a carbine buffer for free?

i would call and get them to send you the right Buffer and tell them to fire the tard that put it in there:D

22_Shooter
03-28-08, 22:18
Damnit. I'm gonna email them right now, and see what they can do about this.

warpigM-4
03-28-08, 22:24
Damnit. I'm gonna email them right now, and see what they can do about this.
may I ask what company did this .It is just hard to believe that someone could do that :eek:

22_Shooter
03-28-08, 22:33
PM sent to Warpig. (I don't wanna post the name, and people to think negatively on the company. Hopefully they make it right.)

The lower is a Stag. I just emailed them, asking if they could replace it, and send a pre-paid shipping sticker for me to send my current buffer back.

I don't want anyone to take this as bashing on the company, because I was pleased with the business I've done with them so far. Shit happens, people make mistakes. But hopefully they make things right. I will post what they say when I get a response tomorrow.

22_Shooter
03-28-08, 22:49
Now I'm confused. I just checked the Ace site, and it says my stock (ARFX) uses standard A1/A2 receiver extension tube, buffer and spring - http://riflestocks.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75_77&products_id=189 . Then I checked where they sell them on the site, and it's exactly what I have - http://riflestocks.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75_80&products_id=199 . So is the setup I have now right or not:confused: ? I've had a bunch of people on a couple different sites tell me I need a carbine buffer.

-Confused Noob

Eric
03-29-08, 09:05
You're all good. The ACE stock does indeed use a standard rifle length buffer tube, buffer and spring. Do not put a carbine buffer or spring in it. These parts are dictated by the type of buffer tube (receiver extension is actually the correct term) and not by the length of the barrel.

Eric
03-29-08, 09:11
Kind of related. (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6827)

Robb Jensen
03-29-08, 09:42
If you have the rifle length stock you'll need a rifle length buffer and spring (unless you're using a delrin buffer to take up the space). If you have the entry length ACE then you'll need to use a CAR length buffer and spring.

22_Shooter
03-29-08, 13:14
Thanks for the help fellas:D . Everything is good. I was worried there for awhile, thinking I had the wrong buffer. The company responded to my email, and offered to replace the buffer if I really wanted to, but didn't recommend it (for reasons that are obvious now. I'm still learning, cut me some slack:D ).

So thanks for the replies.

Here's a pic of my AR for shits and giggles.....

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/D23NY/stag.jpg

warpigM-4
03-29-08, 15:59
ok I didn't realize that the tube was same as a A2 ,looking at the picure I can tell it is longer than the carbine.I have never seen this set-up:confused: But i am glad you got the info you needed:D

22_Shooter
03-29-08, 21:40
ok I didn't realize that the tube was same as a A2 ,looking at the picure I can tell it is longer than the carbine.I have never seen this set-up:confused: But i am glad you got the info you needed:D

Yeah, I like my stocks a little longer, and I can't have telescoping stocks in NY (unless on a pre-ban lower:rolleyes: ), so I opted for that stock.

tuff
03-30-08, 10:42
..Per their sales info..

ACE stock .."ACE Full length Stock. Features a foam cheek rest, ambidextrous side sling adapter, and rubber butt plate. Sling may also be mounted at back on the bottom. Includes all mounting hardware. The Full Length Stock is available in a set(no buffer, tube and spring) or in a kit which includes buffer, tube and spring. The ACE Stock Set is for use with a full length buffer, tube and spring

ACE ARFX .."ACE ARFX-E Stock. Features a foam cheek rest, ambidextrous side sling adapter, and rubber butt plate. Sling may also be mounted at back on the bottom. Includes all mounting hardware. The ARFX-E Stock is available in a set(no buffer or spring) or in a kit which includes buffer and spring. The ACE ARFX-E is for use with CAR/M4 spring and buffer


Glad you have it sorted out....Great looking rifle by the way....