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And it is looking more and more like a coverup, pure and simple.
The White House on Monday attempted to deflect new criticism on the administration’s handling of the Benghazi attacks from a firsthand witness and an additional whistle-blower, arguing that an internal State Department review charged with investigating the September attacks was led by an “unimpeachable” team.
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Mauser KAR98K
05-07-13, 10:45
Let the impeachment proceedings start!
Let the impeachment proceedings start!
Could you imagine if Bush was still POTUS and Benghazi happened? mother of god...
Eurodriver
05-07-13, 11:07
Could you imagine if Bush was still POTUS and Benghazi happened? mother of god...
What's Benghazi? And Bush must still be President because the TV tells me everything is still his fault.
But did you see American Idol last night? omg! It was intense!
Voodoochild
05-07-13, 11:10
“unimpeachable” team.
That must be why the IG is looking into that report and "Unimpeachable" team.
What's Benghazi? And Bush must still be President because the TV tells me everything is still his fault.
But did you see American Idol last night? omg! It was intense!
I think it that was that thing that happened over somewhere a long time ago and is now old news..
and the idol sucks, the voice is way better! :alcoholic:
While many presidential spokespersons have lied, sometimes due to genuine necessity, Carney is hyper-deplorable. The perfectly phony creep for a phony administration.
davidjinks
05-07-13, 14:35
Once this is all sorted out, the families of the slain should be able to have a face to face with all those involved.
Once this is all sorted out, the families of the slain should be able to have a face to face with all those involved.
And should bring their own baseball bats.
What's all the hub-bub? This is old news. Obviously mistakes were made and the administration has learned from them and will not repeat them. So far as lying, the truth may have been shaded a bit, but bigger things were at stake. Much more important issues that were vital to the future of our nation and it's proper place in the world.****
**** Submitting the above as a try out for being The One's new PR hack.
Besides we all know it was Bush II's fault. And the Tea Party's fault. And the obstructionist Republicans fault. And the NRA's fault. And the vast right wing conspiracy's fault. And Fox News's fault. And Rush Limbaugh's fault. And....
The President's words:
"‘I expect consequences,” Obama added. “So I don’t just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebody’s engaging in this, they’ve got to be held accountable – prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.”
Too bad he's talking about the sexual assault charge against the Army LTC in charge of the sexual harassment program and not Benghazi....
Within hours after the attack I heard from a couple sources what had happened, and what the administration's response was (or wasn't). These people were certifiably pissed, patted on the head, told to not worry about it, and oh, by the way, don't discuss any of what happened with anyone. I have not found out if they are on any list to testify, and I have not talked with them since the beginning of the year.
Alpha Sierra
05-07-13, 16:37
These witnesses better watch six.......
http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc-body.html
Moose-Knuckle
05-07-13, 17:38
What's Benghazi? And Bush must still be President because the TV tells me everything is still his fault.
But did you see American Idol last night? omg! It was intense!
Spot on. Check out these sheep at an Obama rally right after the Benghazi attacks. If it wasn't so damn pathetic it would be comical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A2EoZq2rXXI
These witnesses better watch six.......
http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc-body.html
Yeah I was just wondering how many of them will get the old Vince Foster treatement or are found with kiddy porn on their hard drives.
D. Christopher
05-07-13, 18:21
It will be interesting to hear more details about the criminal acts and behavior of this administration regarding the murder of some great Americans in Benghazi on 9/11 and the coverup and lies about those events. Nothing will come of it, and nothing will be done about it, but I still want to hear from those who were actually involved and were ignored and silenced. I'm sure they already know and are learning the hard way that the "Whistleblower" laws will not protect them or their careers, and their futures look very bleak indeed. Just ask the agents who tried to tell the truth about the Fast & Furious program if you need a recent example. My advice to all of them is in addition to your team of attorneys get a really good publisher, and I hope you make millions selling books because your careers in government service are over. Permanently.
One thing to keep in mind during all of this is the fact that the person who wrote the words (lies) that Susan Rice spoke on all those Sunday talk shows last year has a degree from NYU in fiction writing. His name is Ben Rhodes. He has no military experience, no intelligence experience, no security experience. He was hired in 2002 by Rep. Lee Hamilton and helped write the abysmal Iraqi Study Group Report, as well as help draft policy recommendations for the 9/11 Commission. He went to work for BHO's team in 2007 as a speechwriter and is now the Deputy National Security Advisor to the POTUS. Most of the words (lies) that you have heard come out of BHO's mouth since 2008 have come from the pen of Ben Rhodes, a fiction writer. His first really big important speech for BHO was the address to the Muslim world that he gave in Cairo in June 2009. The one where BHO "reached out" to the Muslim Brotherhood. That seems to have worked out really well.
I don't know why people say "you can't make this shit up" because you can. And you can get away with it. And get re-elected. Only in America.
:help:
This investigation will go nowhere.
Business_Casual
05-07-13, 20:37
This investigation will go nowhere.
Exactly. The Republican leak machine was making sure the hearings damaged no one. Sad, really.
Bolt_Overide
05-07-13, 20:44
This investigation will go nowhere.
this ^^
Mother Of Slain Benghazi Victim Rips Hillary Clinton: 'I Blame Her'...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/07/mother_of_slain_benghazi_victim_rips_hillary_clinton_i_blame_her.html
Let the impeachment proceedings start!
Never happen, ever! The national information cartel is already hard at work on behalf of the state, spinning the whistleblowers as "disgruntled" employees! To a national democratic socialist, this is meaningless, they couldn't care less about Benghazi, or dead American's. The Clinton is up to her neck in this, but that won't stop her from being elected in a landslide next go...
National democratic socialists are amoral, every last man, women, and child of them...
As deplorable as the Benghazi incident was, it still pales in comparison to Fast and Furious. Fast and Furious was a DELIBERATE attempt to subvert the 2nd Amendment by lying about the origin of weapons and ammo used in Mexico and to use those lies to persuade the public and politicians to back gun control. No doubt that some shady people did stuff on their own. But, when the agency responsible for firearms laws and regulations is complicit in the deal it changes things.
In addition it allowed weapons to end up in the hands of criminals and drug cartels (both are criminal acts) which resulted in the deaths of a U.S Border Patrol Agent and hundreds of Mexican nationals. In addition there are numerous firearms that are on the street on both sides and no one has a clue where they are.
This administration is a pile of steaming shit. Unfortunately the American public with few exceptions is completely asleep at the wheel.
Alpha Sierra
05-08-13, 04:05
This investigation will go nowhere.
For the first time in my life I find myself in agreement.
davidjinks
05-08-13, 08:37
Not sure if anyone listens to the radio. AM680, Shawn and Frank, interviewing a FBI counter terrorist agent. Just the meat and potatoes; "This administration is aiding and abetting the enemy."
If I understood this interview correctly, this gentleman is a current FBI agent.
I'm sure there's a way to get the transcripts of the show. I'm just not that Internet smart though.
gunrunner505
05-08-13, 09:02
Let the impeachment proceedings start!
You can't say impeachment. That's a racial code word now. Right up there with incompetent, inept, unqualified. Take your pick.
I don't think anything will come from this. Lies from our elected representation has become as common as dirt. So many people in this country just shrug their shoulders, say "oh well", and go back to their daily grind. They don't demand better of their "leaders". This coupled with the MSM completely in their pocket.
I do however applaud the people who have come forward, regardless of any consequences. And you know there will be. Despite what Barry or laws designed to prevent it may say.
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Mauser KAR98K
05-08-13, 09:46
You can't say impeachment. That's a racial code word now. Right up there with incompetent, inept, unqualified. Take your pick.
I don't think anything will come from this. Lies from our elected representation has become as common as dirt. So many people in this country just shrug their shoulders, say "oh well", and go back to their daily grind. They don't demand better of their "leaders". This coupled with the MSM completely in their pocket.
I do however applaud the people who have come forward, regardless of any consequences. And you know there will be. Despite what Barry or laws designed to prevent it may say.
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I hope you are wrong. This is a scandal, just like F&F, of the first order.
gunrunner505
05-08-13, 09:59
I hope you are wrong. This is a scandal, just like F&F, of the first order.
I truly hope I'm wrong as well but if we look at the history of this administration, accountability is pretty hard to come by. This is a huge scandal, just like F&F, people are dead, just like F&F. Yet what really came of that?
I don't know about anyone else but I was personally righteously pissed off when Hillary said, and I quote, "at this point what does it matter?". What does it matter? It matters because 4 Americans are dead because you left them out to dry you stupid bitch. You didn't do jack shit to provide for their safety and then did nothing to save them. And then you, Barry, that bag of monkey dicks Carney all lied about it to save your own asses.
Disgusting.
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Mauser KAR98K
05-08-13, 10:13
I truly hope I'm wrong as well but if we look at the history of this administration, accountability is pretty hard to come by. This is a huge scandal, just like F&F, people are dead, just like F&F. Yet what really came of that?
I don't know about anyone else but I was personally righteously pissed off when Hillary said, and I quote, "at this point what does it matter?". What does it matter? It matters because 4 Americans are dead because you left them out to dry you stupid bitch. You didn't do jack shit to provide for their safety and then did nothing to save them. And then you, Barry, that bag of monkey dicks Carney all lied about it to save your own asses.
Disgusting.
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Just remember all of this come November 2014. Oh, and tell your friends!
gunrunner505
05-08-13, 10:32
Just remember all of this come November 2014. Oh, and tell your friends!
You know I will my friend.
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Another vote for 'nothing will happen.'
Idiot electorate, stenographers in the media, and the limp wristed Republican Establishment will ensure nothing happens. Go back to sleep....
Oh, and Rand Paul, like his father, is crazy, unelectable and possibly a racist.
2014 will be a race between Hillary Clinton and a cardboard cut out of Mittens.
gunrunner505
05-08-13, 11:07
The GOP has a golden opportunity here. The have a chance to expose this administration and Barry for the fraud they truly are and render them completely irrelevant.
Republicans need to be aggressive and go to the mattresses....
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The GOP has a golden opportunity here. The have a chance to expose this administration and Barry for the fraud they truly are and render them completely irrelevant.
Republicans need to be aggressive and go to the mattresses....
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They had the same opportunity with fast & furious; but decided to limp-dick it and did nothing to really hold anyone accountable or get the word out.
The way we are going it's all gonna come crashing down on top of us if we continue to be complacent as we have for so long.
Sucks donkey dicks big time.
The only way to prevent this in the future is to tear up the Constitution and allow Permanent Muslim control of the Nation.
The only way to prevent this in the future is to tear up the Constitution and allow Permanent Muslim control of the Nation.
But it needs to be the "Good Muslim" control.
gunrunner505
05-08-13, 11:36
But it needs to be the "Good Muslim" control.
It needs to be a Muslim from MY village. Otherwise we have to go to war for 3000 years....
You understand....
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Alpha Sierra
05-08-13, 11:59
It needs to be a Muslim from MY village. Otherwise we have to go to war for 3000 years....
You understand....
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Now that's funny right there.................:D
Here is a short synopsis of the hearing:
The Republicans are trying to reveal or find someone in the administration that is responsible for NOT sending help to Benghazi on that night and partly who is covering up the lack of rescue attempt.
The Democrats are trying to direct the hearing to what will be done in the FUTURE to prevent this from happening.
Bottomline, nothing is going to happen. I hope I'm wrong.
Moose-Knuckle
05-08-13, 15:07
Yeah we are well past the point of torches and pitch forks . . .
It gives me a hard-on that ammo shelves have been bare bones since December.
30 cal slut
05-08-13, 15:10
one wonders if anything with "klinton" attached to it means disaster for our civil servants and .mil folks going into harm's way.
somalia, benghazi ....
I don't think anything will come of it either. I don't understand why if the MSM doesn't cover it, the no information voters are unaware or don't care, these filthy letches always walk unscathed. Popular opinion or lack of should not have any effect on law and the treasonous acts these people do.
On a side note, considering no information voters obama care and many other bills should be nullified. Many in the senate and house didn't bother to read. We've elected no information voters to run this country into the ground. What did Pelosi say? Gotta pass it to see what's in it. On those grounds alone they should be nullified.
Phillygunguy
05-08-13, 15:18
It' really sad this Administration can literally get away with murder and the media won't report anything. And what's even sadder the people don't care. You can stick a fork in the US it's done
Doc Safari
05-08-13, 15:22
As deplorable as the Benghazi incident was, it still pales in comparison to Fast and Furious. Fast and Furious was a DELIBERATE attempt to subvert the 2nd Amendment by lying about the origin of weapons and ammo used in Mexico and to use those lies to persuade the public and politicians to back gun control. No doubt that some shady people did stuff on their own. But, when the agency responsible for firearms laws and regulations is complicit in the deal it changes things.
In addition it allowed weapons to end up in the hands of criminals and drug cartels (both are criminal acts) which resulted in the deaths of a U.S Border Patrol Agent and hundreds of Mexican nationals. In addition there are numerous firearms that are on the street on both sides and no one has a clue where they are.
This administration is a pile of steaming shit. Unfortunately the American public with few exceptions is completely asleep at the wheel.
What frosts me is that people have no trouble believing the government's culpability about F&F and Benghazi, yet if someone suggests that DHS's ammo buys might be an attempt to do some gun control under the radar, then that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
It' really sad this Administration can literally get away with murder and the media won't report anything. And what's even sadder the people don't care. You can stick a fork in the US it's done
I agree, this country is on it's last breath. It will take a major hard reset to bring it back.
What frosts me is that people have no trouble believing the government's culpability about F&F and Benghazi, yet if someone suggests that DHS's ammo buys might be an attempt to do some gun control under the radar, then that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
"Ding ding ding" we have a winner! Same mentality revolves around the idea that aircraft are influencing human behavior via chemtrails in the atmosphere, while at the same time flatly refusing to accept the role of committed Marxist/Leninist's in corrupting their educations k-grad school...
What frosts me is that people have no trouble believing the government's culpability about F&F and Benghazi, yet if someone suggests that DHS's ammo buys might be an attempt to do some gun control under the radar, then that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
ABSOLUTELY!
It's as if they can't POSSIBLY be up to anything else.
I am of the opinion that most ate not as broadly aware as they may believe.
Thank God they see SOMETHING but its usually along partisan lines.
There's a ton of things that have taken place on Obama's watch I deplore and there's a ton of things done under the Bush Administration. Same with Clinton and same with Bush, Sr and so on and so on.
But to speak about that one must be invested in foil.
What stupidity.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Mauser KAR98K
05-08-13, 18:55
We can squarely place the blame of any of this not getting out with the media that is in the bag for Obama. Their lack of reporting on this, and demeaning those who do is criminal. Our problem is that we cannot hold any of these organizations accountable. People buy more into their entertainment than news. Makes me wonder if they are loosing money with their propaganda arm but subsequently keeping it afloat with the American Idol crap profits.
Case in point: CBS execs fearing the reporter for the Benghazi incident is getting dangerously close to activism.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/08/report-cbs-news-bosses-irked-by-correspondents-thorough-benghazi-reporting-n1591242
We can squarely place the blame of any of this not getting out with the media that is in the bag for Obama. Their lack of reporting on this, and demeaning those who do is criminal. Our problem is that we cannot hold any of these organizations accountable. People buy more into their entertainment than news. Makes me wonder if they are loosing money with their propaganda arm but subsequently keeping it afloat with the American Idol crap profits.
Case in point: CBS execs fearing the reporter for the Benghazi incident is getting dangerously close to activism.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/08/report-cbs-news-bosses-irked-by-correspondents-thorough-benghazi-reporting-n1591242
They are directly involved with covering up evidence, ensuring that it remains in a black zone of nebulosity, never reaching the public awareness, by definition that is conspiracy...
This investigation will go nowhere.
Even if it does, NOTHING will come of it. Hillary has already said "what difference does it make now?" She and others will accept blame WITHOUT any consequences whatsoever.
"Mistakes were made, we need to learn from them...yada, yada, yada."
Just remember all of this come November 2014. Oh, and tell your friends!
ive been at work all day, so I was able to catch the reairing on cspan a little while ago....your statement reminds of me something my late grandmother told me when I was 7. I asked her why she liked Elephants...she said, "elephants never forget".
What frosts me is that people have no trouble believing the government's culpability about F&F and Benghazi, yet if someone suggests that DHS's ammo buys might be an attempt to do some gun control under the radar, then that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
hahahaha yeah with ya %100 :)
no they would never day anything like that ! come on trust them
like my brother who is a prosecutor would tell you about every criminal its not the 1st time they do things when he sees them its just the first time they got caught and brought to justice !
sadly often they are caught deny and someone lets them go !
same thing with a kid stealing candy then a magazine then a neighbors bike then a purse then something bigger and when he steals a car people cant figure out where it came from ? he was such a good boy !!!
D. Christopher
05-08-13, 21:44
We can squarely place the blame of any of this not getting out with the media that is in the bag for Obama. Their lack of reporting on this, and demeaning those who do is criminal. Our problem is that we cannot hold any of these organizations accountable. People buy more into their entertainment than news. Makes me wonder if they are loosing money with their propaganda arm but subsequently keeping it afloat with the American Idol crap profits.
Case in point: CBS execs fearing the reporter for the Benghazi incident is getting dangerously close to activism.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/08/report-cbs-news-bosses-irked-by-correspondents-thorough-benghazi-reporting-n1591242
Mauser the reason why CBS is suppressing this story is very simple. In my post #15 earlier in this thread I was talking about Ben Rhodes who writes most of the lies that get released from BHO's administration, including the script that Susan Rice read from on 5 Sunday talk shows last year after the Benghazi murders.
And who is the President of CBS News?
David Rhodes. Ben Rhodes older brother.
Mauser KAR98K
05-08-13, 23:53
Mauser the reason why CBS is suppressing this story is very simple. In my post #15 earlier in this thread I was talking about Ben Rhodes who writes most of the lies that get released from BHO's administration, including the script that Susan Rice read from on 5 Sunday talk shows last year after the Benghazi murders.
And who is the President of CBS News?
David Rhodes. Ben Rhodes older brother.
Huh...funny how that works...out. We are screwed!
The media ALWAYS covers up things for ANY president.
It matters not if Mickey Mouse is president.
Our mainstream media is in the hands of six Internationalist/Globalists.
The only way they could conceivably not cover for the Oval Office is if the president deviates from "the script" and starts pursuing constitutional issues or turning his backing internationalist issues.
They don't give a crap about Obama, the Bushes, Clinton or any other PERSON. It's the DEEDS or SUPPORT of the Globalist Cause that matters.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
The Republicans are trying to reveal or find someone in the administration that is responsible for NOT sending help to Benghazi on that night and partly who is covering up the lack of rescue attempt.
They must not be trying very hard, or, they have no idea how our military works (highly plausible).
The word on the street in certain circles is that 3rd SFG CIF teams were ready and chomping at the bit to get in the fight.
http://specialforces.americanspecialops.com/cif/
They need to subpoena everyone from the SECDEF on down thru USSOCOM Chain of Command. Failing this, we can rest assured that the GOPs are actually just playing games (also highly plausible).
The media ALWAYS covers up things for ANY president.
I'm not sure what media you were absorbing during Bush's two terms. :confused:
VooDoo6Actual
05-09-13, 09:13
They must not be trying very hard, or, they have no idea how our military works (highly plausible).
The word on the street in certain circles is that 3rd SFG CIF teams were ready and chomping at the bit to get in the fight.
http://specialforces.americanspecialops.com/cif/
They need to subpoena everyone from the SECDEF on down thru USSOCOM Chain of Command. Failing this, we can rest assured that the GOPs are actually just playing games (also highly plausible).
Good analysis & I tend to agree. Otherwise, both parties are in collusion for a bigger agenda it would seem & going through the motions rather than any real substance.
You have to forgive him. If a tree falls in the forest he believes the paper companies were behind the conspiracy.
I'm not sure what media you were absorbing during Bush's two terms. :confused:
It hits me like a brick as I'm eating lunch :)
If an individual took credit for "killing" osama bin laden (figuratively), then he deserves the blame and should be blame for the death of the four brave Americans.
This is so simple.
Good analysis & I tend to agree. Otherwise, both parties are in collusion for a bigger agenda it would seem & going through the motions rather than any real substance.
If that is the case, why even bother to bring it up and have hearings? As far as I know, there was no great huge and cry among the (reported) masses to have this see the light of day.
You have to forgive him. If a tree falls in the forest he believes the paper companies were behind the conspiracy.
See here's where you're wrong this one time. Each and every tree in existence over 20ft have indeed been "outfitted" with special antennae and also genetically altered via a sophisticated means to fall in predetermined directions, thus covertly enhancing the channeling devices even while on the ground.
In fact by them being on the ground they can better connect with a previous "network" laid out by the aliens he stated that he wants to accompany home.
So, I am OCONUS right now. Any updates on how this is playing out back home?
So, I am OCONUS right now. Any updates on how this is playing out back home?
Nero continues to fiddle while Rome burns. :mad:
The media finally seems to be coming around to the fact the cat's out of the bag and people aren't going to forget this.
The White House official statements went through 12 State Department revisions before they sent them to Susan Rice to regurgitate to the talk shows.
This is an early CIA draft:
“The Agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al-Qa’ida in Benghazi and eastern Libya. These noted that, since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentified assailants, including the June attack against the British Ambassador’s convoy. We cannot rule out the individuals has previously surveilled the U.S. facilities, also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks.”
State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland's objection:
In an email to officials at the White House and the intelligence agencies, State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland took issue with including that information because it “could be abused by members [of Congress] to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings, so why would we want to feed that either? Concerned …”
The paragraph was entirely deleted.
Like the final version used by Ambassador Rice on the Sunday shows, the CIA’s first drafts said the attack appeared to have been “spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo” but the CIA version went on to say, “That being said, we do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al-Qa’ida participated in the attack.” The draft went on to specifically name the al Qaeda-affiliated group named Ansar al-Sharia.
Once again, Nuland objected to naming the terrorist groups because “we don’t want to prejudice the investigation.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/
I would like to say I'm shocked but this just pisses me off :angry:
Not even making headlines....if this had of happened when Bush was President....
I think it's gonna blow up. How long it stays in the headlines or what's done about it is another issue.
Yahoo news front page
http://news.yahoo.com/
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-111305929.html
Some seem to be more worried about how it's going to affect Hillary's chances in 2016 than anything.
Will The Ghosts Of Benghazi Haunt Hillary? (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/will-the-ghosts-of-benghazi-haunt-hillary-the-note/)
Cincinnatus
05-10-13, 13:22
Too bad we don't have a media that will actually hold this admin accountable and abide by principle rather than doing its bidding. All the same questions could be asked of this scandal that were asked of Watergate: what did the president know and when did he know it etc.
The cover up is a s bad as anything else and it was for sakeof election just like Watergate.
Media bias is a given.
What is inexcusable is the Republicans not calling members of the military to testify. Somebody (actually, quite a few people) in the DoD knows there were assets ready to reinforce the embassy. Why were they not used? Who told them to stand down?
gunrunner505
05-10-13, 17:11
Is anyone else just about fed up with hearing this administration, particularly the Jay Carney douche canoe, accuse anyone of doing something solely for political reasons? Get a new line. These tools have been politically motivated from jump street.
The cat's out of the bag. Isn't really beyond spin at this point?
Sorry. Listening to the news....
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Is anyone else fed up with hearing this administration...say anything.
Fixed it for you ;)
I think it's gonna blow up. How long it stays in the headlines or what's done about it is another issue.
Yahoo news front page
http://news.yahoo.com/
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-111305929.html
Some seem to be more worried about how it's going to affect Hillary's chances in 2016 than anything.
Will The Ghosts Of Benghazi Haunt Hillary? (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/will-the-ghosts-of-benghazi-haunt-hillary-the-note/)
I think you're right.. add in that IRS apology today to the tea party and others, that in itself is like throwing gas on the fire. I think Barry the liar, is starting to sweat...
Moose-Knuckle
05-10-13, 19:31
Some seem to be more worried about how it's going to affect Hillary's chances in 2016 than anything.
Will The Ghosts Of Benghazi Haunt Hillary? (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/will-the-ghosts-of-benghazi-haunt-hillary-the-note/)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/hillary_zpsf5ae8d3e.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/AKS-74/media/hillary_zpsf5ae8d3e.jpg.html)
Magic_Salad0892
05-10-13, 19:34
I know this is kind of off topic, but isn't Mauser KAR98K Army Chief's son?
I remember hearing that somewhere.
Magic_Salad0892
05-10-13, 19:34
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/hillary_zpsf5ae8d3e.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/AKS-74/media/hillary_zpsf5ae8d3e.jpg.html)
Oh God that's infuriating.
D. Christopher
05-10-13, 19:37
Too bad we don't have a media that will actually hold this admin accountable and abide by principle rather than doing its bidding. All the same questions could be asked of this scandal that were asked of Watergate: what did the president know and when did he know it etc.
The cover up is a s bad as anything else and it was for sake of election just like Watergate.
Funny you should mention Watergate Cincinnatus. Hillary has been doing this same shit for 40 years. When she was 27 years old she was fired from the Watergate committee for fraud and ethics violations by her supervisor, Jerry Zeifman. She got the job because her former law professor, Burke Marshall, recommended her. You may have heard of Burke Marshall, he was the lead counsel for Ted Kennedy in the Chappaquiddick case.
When asked why he fired Hillary, Jerry Zeifman said "Because she was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality."
Forty years later and we're still putting up with this shit because the Media controls the message, and the laws and the Constitution don't matter to them.
https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=16666&stc=1&d=1368232592
Magic_Salad0892
05-10-13, 19:58
Funny you should mention Watergate Cincinnatus. Hillary has been doing this same shit for 40 years. When she was 27 years old she was fired from the Watergate committee for fraud and ethics violations by her supervisor, Jerry Zeifman. She got the job because her former law professor, Burke Marshall, recommended her. You may have heard of Burke Marshall, he was the lead counsel for Ted Kennedy in the Chappaquiddick case.
When asked why he fired Hillary, Jerry Zeifman said "Because she was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality."
Forty years later and we're still putting up with this shit because the Media controls the message, and the laws and the Constitution don't matter to them.
https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=16666&stc=1&d=1368232592
Oh Dear God that makes sense. Thanks for posting that.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1995278/posts
Nero continues to fiddle while Rome burns. :mad:
I cannot think of a more fitting description of the current state of America ..
Grand58742
05-10-13, 20:57
Media bias is a given.
What is inexcusable is the Republicans not calling members of the military to testify. Somebody (actually, quite a few people) in the DoD knows there were assets ready to reinforce the embassy. Why were they not used? Who told them to stand down?
Putting my tin foil on for a moment...
Did anyone else find it suspicious there were several high level military commanders suddenly relieved in close proximity to the Benghazi debacle? 7th Fleet commander and a 3 star somewhere in Europe IIRC. And the story on Petraus also broke around the same time.
I'm not a big fan of coincidence, one, okay, two maybe. But three senior military or intelligence people that would have directly been involves in Benghazi getting relieved or infused in a scandal at the same time? Curious
kaiservontexas
05-10-13, 21:07
What is with this off the record press meeting?
Whatever happened to the gun running they did down south in Mexico? It got some of our folks killed and God knows how many Mexicans.
Are any of these individuals going to be held to task for their incompetence, ignorance, or willfulness?
D. Christopher
05-10-13, 21:16
What is with this off the record press meeting?
Whatever happened to the gun running they did down south in Mexico? It got some of our folks killed and God knows how many Mexicans.
Are any of these individuals going to be held to task for their incompetence, ignorance, or willfulness?
Yes all of the Fast & Furious whistleblowers were demoted, reassigned, driven out, or fired while standing in a parking lot. Every single one of them. Their bosses kept their jobs or retired with benefits. Holder and Napolitano are still at it and will be for years to come.
You'll be seeing the exact same results regarding the Benghazi murders. I can guarantee that no whistleblower will go unpunished.
kaiservontexas
05-11-13, 00:22
Yes all of the Fast & Furious whistleblowers were demoted, reassigned, driven out, or fired while standing in a parking lot. Every single one of them. Their bosses kept their jobs or retired with benefits. Holder and Napolitano are still at it and will be for years to come.
You'll be seeing the exact same results regarding the Benghazi murders. I can guarantee that no whistleblower will go unpunished.
That disgusts me.
Matt Bracken wrote an article shortly after Benghazi debacle and made the point that only POTUS has the authority to give the go ahead for sending troops into combat across a border (ie, from Sicily or wherever into Libya). If he wanted the Ambassador protected he would have given the order to do so. And the military would have done so in a heartbeat. The fact the troops were not sent means only one thing; Obama withheld authorization to cross into Libya either by silence or by order. It is all on Obama, no one else.
Others such as Hillary The Liar may have helped set up the lack of proper security, and cooperated with illegal arms trafficking or otherwise encouraged terrorists to attack, but the actual lack of reinforcements during the attack is all Obama's.
Matt Bracken wrote an article shortly after Benghazi debacle and made the point that only POTUS has the authority to give the go ahead for sending troops into combat across a border (ie, from Sicily or wherever into Libya). If he wanted the Ambassador protected he would have given the order to do so. And the military would have done so in a heartbeat. The fact the troops were not sent means only one thing; Obama withheld authorization to cross into Libya either by silence or by order. It is all on Obama, no one else.
Others such as Hillary The Liar may have helped set up the lack of proper security, and cooperated with illegal arms trafficking or otherwise encouraged terrorists to attack, but the actual lack of reinforcements during the attack is all Obama's.
Yet with bin laden we basically said F you to Pakistan after the fact or better yet if it was POTUS's butt on the line I'm pretty sure we would have sent anything and everything under U.S. command.
D. Christopher
05-11-13, 09:52
This administration wasn't setting Americans up for a deliberate attack. That would have been political suicide. They had been laying the groundwork for months to show how smart and competent they were in order to get re-elected. You must remember the context of the time when this happened.
Just a week before the Benghazi murders BHO had stood before all of his followers at the Democratic National Convention and declared that "Osama bin Laden is dead and GM is alive". He took credit for the killing of Bin Laden and implied that Al Qaeda and Muslim extremists were no longer a threat to America thanks to his brilliant handling of world events. That is where the lies about a "spontaneous demonstration" caused by a YouTube video that was "offensive to Muslims" comes from. They couldn't allow any story that contradicted their carefully crafted illusion of competence and masterful handling of events in Libya. This all happened just 6 weeks before our elections and probably would have cost BHO the White House if the truth were known by too many Americans. Fortunately for them the combination of low IQs, low information, and a lack of interest by the American electorate and a completely complicit media allowed them to make up a truly unbelievable story, arrest a really bad filmmaker for "inciting" Muslims, trample the First Amendment and get away with it.
Here is a link to the 12-step "evolution" of the message that this administration carefully crafted to edit out all references to Muslim extremists even though they knew in the first hours after the attack that the people responsible for the attack were known Muslim extremists. The leader of this attack is still walking around Libya right now killing people, we know who he is but we're not doing anything about it because we've blamed a shitty filmmaker for this whole event.
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Benghazi%20Talking%20Points%20Timeline.pdf
Here is a link to the 12-step "evolution" of the message that this administration carefully crafted to edit out all references to Muslim extremists even though they knew in the first hours after the attack that the people responsible for the attack were known Muslim extremists. The leader of this attack is still walking around Libya right now killing people, we know who he is but we're not doing anything about it because we've blamed a shitty filmmaker for this whole event.
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Benghazi%20Talking%20Points%20Timeline.pdf
We all owe a debt of thanks to ABC's Jonathan Karl for both exposing these communications and also going against the media's leftist grain. He, Jake Tapper and Sheryl Atkinson are essentially the only three that ever seem to be willing to expose this administration's ever increasing ugly truths. All will probably head to FOX soon, but actually I'd rather they stay and build momentum from within.
Kind of like not running away from the now restrictive states where we were born and currently raise our families.
Republicans are being painted as going after Hillary in a "witch hunt" even though there's testimony from the State Department's counter-terrorism bureau that Clinton attempted to cut the bureau out of communications directly after the Benghazi attack.
Dick Durbin makes me want to puke
"The reason she wasn't interviewed was, she didn't have any direct-line responsibility for the decisions that were made - but they want to bring her in because they think it's a good political show," Durbin said. "When the Washington Post looked at the assertion as to whether Hillary Clinton should be held responsible and what came out at the hearing, they awarded it four Pinocchios, which means the lowest level of credibility that you can possibly have. (:lol: did he seriously just mention the Washington Post Pinocchio system in an interview??) It is unsubstantiated, and yet, the witch hunt continues."
"The witch hunt continues" on Benghazi, Durbin says (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50146664n)
[Kelly] Ayotte (R-N.H.) continued the GOP's vow to further investigations about the Benghazi "cover-up," fronted by the administration's bungled talking points in the aftermath of the attack, which initially peddled the theory that the strike was not a premeditated act of terror. Pickering said he and Mullen did not review the lineage of the talking points, because their report had to do exclusively "with the adequacy of security, with the preparation of security, with intelligence and whether anyone breached their duties."
Nothing to see here on the 12 edits to the talking points. Move along people.
The adequacy and preparation of security was questioned in the report. There were credible threats assessed in the area and attacks on the British ambassador to Libya in June and no one thought there may be danger on Sept. 11 of all days?? Wasn't more security asked for and denied or was it?
Pickering: Wasn't "necessary" to question Clinton in Benghazi report (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57584096/pickering-wasnt-necessary-to-question-clinton-in-benghazi-report/)
Republicans are being painted as going after Hillary in a "witch hunt" even though there's testimony from the State Department's counter-terrorism bureau that Clinton attempted to cut the bureau out of communications directly after the Benghazi attack.
Dick Durbin makes me want to puke
"The witch hunt continues" on Benghazi, Durbin says (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50146664n)
Nothing to see here on the 12 edits to the talking points. Move along people.
The adequacy and preparation of security was questioned in the report. There were credible threats assessed in the area and attacks on the British ambassador to Libya in June and no one thought there may be danger on Sept. 11 of all days?? Wasn't more security asked for and denied or was it?
Pickering: Wasn't "necessary" to question Clinton in Benghazi report (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57584096/pickering-wasnt-necessary-to-question-clinton-in-benghazi-report/)
Well they got one thing right. Anytime you're attempting to hold Hillary responsible for anything, it's truly a "witch" hunt in the purest sense of the word! :D
Well they got one thing right. Anytime you're attempting to hold Hillary responsible for anything, it's truly a "witch" hunt in the purest sense of the word! :D
:lol:
I like the way Leno put it...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/486745_560684293974531_1326743512_n.jpg
We all owe a debt of thanks to ABC's Jonathan Karl for both exposing these communications and also going against the media's leftist grain. He, Jake Tapper and Sheryl Atkinson are essentially the only three that ever seem to be willing to expose this administration's ever increasing ugly truths. All will probably head to FOX soon, but actually I'd rather they stay and build momentum from within.
Don't forget Lara Logan of CBS News.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fHq7TLN7Pc
Don't forget Lara Logan of CBS News.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fHq7TLN7Pc
Mmmm, Laara...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-N9v__QrUR_w/TfzDabIEf2I/AAAAAAAATl0/m5ZSZOj1CP4/s1600/LaraLogan.jpg
gunrunner505
05-13-13, 17:59
edited
Be nice gentlemen. She endured a lot when she was assaulted by the Egyptian goons. Keep it classy.
Be nice gentlemen. She endured a lot when she was assaulted by the Egyptian goons. Keep it classy.
Agreed. I watched a speech she gave on her 'Egyptian encounter'. She is a tough and beautiful lady that I am sure has scars that will never heal. :(
-Jax
Be nice gentlemen. She endured a lot when she was assaulted by the Egyptian goons. Keep it classy.
Agreed. My admiration for her extends well beyond her physical attributes.
brushy bill
05-13-13, 22:03
Oh Dear God that makes sense. Thanks for posting that.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1995278/posts
Indeed, thanks for that post. Puts some thing in perspective. Lies are excusable if you are on the left.
VooDoo6Actual
05-13-13, 23:21
The US Is Openly Sending Heavy Weapons From Libya To Syrian Rebels
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-admin-admits-to-covertly-sending-heavy-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-2012-12
WARNING Graphic:
FSA Insurgent Eats Heart & Liver of Syrian Soldier (probably scrubbed soon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9IRn5b0aik
Mauser KAR98K
05-13-13, 23:29
The US Is Openly Sending Heavy Weapons From Libya To Syrian Rebels
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-admin-admits-to-covertly-sending-heavy-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-2012-12
WARNING Graphic:
FSA Insurgent Eats Heart & Liver of Syrian Soldier (probably scrubbed soon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9IRn5b0aik
Just. Groovy. Like, no way this is going to come back and haunt us. What part of Al Quada do they not understand? Oh yeah, we kicked their ass, they are no longer a threat. Check.
VooDoo6Actual
05-13-13, 23:37
Just. Groovy. Like, no way this is going to come back and haunt us. What part of Al Quada do they not understand? Oh yeah, we kicked their ass, they are no longer a threat. Check.
Check.
I like the fact that your a sagacious autonomous thinker.
Thank Ziggy.
Ya think ? nah say it ain't so....
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/25/was-syrian-weapons-shipment-factor-in-ambassadors-benghazi-visit/
If Hilldog is bold enough to run, the day she announces, something like this should run daily until she changes her mind:
http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/gp3_full_article/benghazi_attack_us_politics_2012_09_12.jpg#%20Benghazi%20attack%20670x450
http://www.e-manonline.com/images/entry/benghazi2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3CjhvqX21Gg/UHbfkQdKIrI/AAAAAAAAH2s/pITAjOazeTY/s1600/benghazibloodyhandprints.png
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/37802169.jpg
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37802545.jpg
Accepting responsibility for such a dismal failure on an international stage, should carry consequences. :(
See, it's already out of the news...
If Hilldog is bold enough to run, the day she announces, something like this should run daily until she changes her mind:
http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/gp3_full_article/benghazi_attack_us_politics_2012_09_12.jpg#%20Benghazi%20attack%20670x450
http://www.e-manonline.com/images/entry/benghazi2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3CjhvqX21Gg/UHbfkQdKIrI/AAAAAAAAH2s/pITAjOazeTY/s1600/benghazibloodyhandprints.png
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/37802169.jpg
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37802545.jpg
Accepting responsibility for such a dismal failure on an international stage, should carry consequences. :(
Well she got her 3am phone call, and failed miserably.
Cincinnatus
05-14-13, 13:46
Chicago Tribune - Benghazi, IRS: Son of Watergate?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/sns-201305131600--tms--cthomastq--b-a20130514-20130514,0,3145996.column
Here's a great editorial comparing Benghazi to Watergate, and what's surprising to me is that it's from the Chicago Tribune.
VooDoo6Actual
05-16-13, 13:52
Aside from the usual obfuscation & contradiction semantics anybody else notice dates of emails (2 days of emails missing) from 100 emails turned over ?
It's what's not there that will trip a Red Flag 12th & 13th.
Aside from the usual obfuscation & contradiction semantics anybody else notice dates of emails (2 days of emails missing) from 100 emails turned over ?
It's what's not there that will trip a Red Flag 12th & 13th.
Fox hit that discrepancy right away lol
VooDoo6Actual
05-17-13, 20:44
Obama administration sources explain Benghazi: “It’s actually closer to us being idiots”
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/17/obama-administration-sources-explain-benghazi-its-actually-closer-to-us-being-idiots/
This Is No Ordinary Scandal
Political abuse of the IRS threatens the basic integrity of our government.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323582904578487460479247792.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
Alpha Sierra
05-20-13, 06:50
The face of arrogant tyranny
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/gDB9StehYudd6HMnEEoKYQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MTgwOTtjcj0xO2N3PTIzMTM7ZHg9MDtkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTQ3MjtxPTg1O3c9NjA0/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/e8b65166ab593710320f6a706700b47e.jpg
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