Are Gen 4 Glock 22/23's good to go?

[Omega Man]

Are the Gen 4 Glocks in 40 showing BTF or any other issues that have been documented with the 9mm Glock's?

[galz71]

My gen4 22 has been flawless through 2,000 round

[davebee456]

very interested in a gen 4 G23 so any info would help

[Sensei]

I have both. 2000 rounds through G22 and only 500 through G23. No failures or BTF from either weapons.

[ST911]

Are the Gen 4 Glocks in 40 showing BTF or any other issues that have been documented with the 9mm Glock's?

200+ put into use over the last year in a few user groups. Mostly G22s. All are shooting 180gr loads at about 1000fps, with some quantities of green range ammo, and occasionally other loads. Virtually none run WMLs. Ejection is brisk, function is excellent. Most users opt to not install the M or L backstrap. Recoil qualities are more favorable in the gen4 vice earlier, and accuracy is good.

Similar results with the 9mms, though in a smaller quantity. Of the 9mms, most are G19s, with a healthy representation of G26s. G17s are less popular.

[JeremyVG]

I had over 7,000 rounds through a pair of G22 Gen4's. One was my duty pistol which had about 1500, the remainder were through my second training/competition pistol.

Zero failures of any kind, with the VAST majority of rounds fired having a TLR-1 mounted. I did install the upgraded springs from Glock, but could tell no difference in function, only in ease of putting the spring in during reassembly.

Best,
jvg

[davidjinks]

The Gen 4 Glock 22 I had did not throw BTF.

However, it would not run with a light (2 different X300 lights used) and I could not get the gun to function when doing weak hand drills.

I went through a whole mess of trouble shooting with help from this board and from Glock.

RSA (2 different ones)
Ammunition (RA40T, RA40B, GDHP, American Eagle, Remington, Winchester...165-180 grain)
Magazine springs (All 11 coils springs from factory Glock to Wolff)
New trigger
Springs/Connector

To be honest, I took the easy way out and traded for a P30S in 40. All of my other Glocks are Gen 3 9MM.

Mine is a sample of 1 so, YMMV.



Are the Gen 4 Glocks in 40 showing BTF or any other issues that have been documented with the 9mm Glock's?

[Talon167]

My Gen4 G23 has been perfect through 1200 rounds. Took it out of the box and started shooting, haven't cleaned it yet.

I also haven't tried it with a weapon light. Just got an X300U so next time out I will make sure it works okay with that.

ETA - No BTF either. Lazily looking for a Gen4 G27 right now, so I have confidence in the G4 40s.

[pat701]

But if you are unlucky and get one with weak ejection or BTF you won't be a happy camper.:confused:

[k4man6]

I have a 22 and 27. I have put around 2000 rounds through the 22 and approx 1000 rounds though the 27. Both have ran like champs, no problems what so ever. Hope to someday have a 23 myself

[K1tt3n5]

No issues with my gen 4 23.

[packinaglock]

No issues with my gen four G27 or G23. In fact the G27 ejects very strong in a nice neat pile. The 23 ejects good but the 27 ejects amazing.

[WickedWillis]

Yes. Silly question.

[teksid]

Only 500 rounds through my Gen 4 G23, but no issues.

[BurkeB]

I have four Gen 4 22's that I have done some pretty extensive testing on and could not get any of them to run reliably with lights attached when shooting one handed. I know this is a rather specific issue, and may not be a problem for most people, but for PD guns it is pretty serious.

Using X-300's I averaged 1 to 2 failures to feed per mag and 2 to 3 failures to feed per mag with a TLR-1. GLOCK has been very helpful in trying to correct this problem, sending out new RSA's, ejectors, and eventually 12 brand new mags, but the problem remains consistent. Just for information, I have tested with Speer Gold Dot 180 Gr. and Speer Lawman 180 Gr.

The guns function fine with a very stable two handed shooting platform, but a normal one handed grip, shooting weak hand, and shooting while holding a ballistic shield all result in significant malfunctions.

Of the guns I have been testing, two were manufactured early 2010 and two were manufactured in 2011, so I doubt that it was anything as simple as a bad batch of guns because they were just over a year apart on manufacture dates.

I will say that GLOCK customer service has been exemplary and the rep I have been dealing with has done everything in his power to get this problem fixed. Unfortunately it doesn't look like there is a fix for this problem at the moment. I am hoping that another redesign and recall of the RSA in the future might be able to rectify the problem.

I realize that four guns is a pretty small sample set, and I would recommend that anyone considering a Gen 4 GLOCK model 22 conduct their own testing to determine if it is reliable with your light attached, with your ammo, and your shooting style.

[Devildawg2531]

I have a gen 4 G22 and have about 500 rounds through it most with the Sureire X300 mounted to it and it has been 100% reliable both with and without the light. My gen 4 G34 is batting 100% as well with no BTF.

[Dos Cylindros]

I have a Gen4 G23 with about 800 rounds down it right now. No problems on my end so far but I have not tested it with a weapon mounted light attached. I never had significant problems with my old department issue G22 with an X200 attached, so I don't really expect problems with the Gen4. This is my off duty gun and it will most likely never or seldom wear a light so I'm not really concerned about it.

On a side not, my department issued M&P 40 has never malfunctioned in any way.

[WhiskyNiner]

I sent my 4gen G23 back to the factory. 1700 rounds and still had feed failures, along with the occasional BTF. The did a "factory upgrade" (with no details) and sent it back. It appeared they put in a new trigger group and ejector.

I've only put an additional 250 rounds through it since its return but the most problematic rounds (Federal HST, 180gr) functioned without drama. Wife shot it and I was able to see where the brass was going. Ejection was brisk and to the side/rear. An empty shell did bounce off the partition and whack me center forehead. I can't win...

As soon as I'm able to get some more fancy widemouth ammo I'll do some more testing.

[C4IGrant]

From what I have seen, they run into the same issues as the 9mm Glock's + some still have the WML issues.


C4

[TF82]

My department gives the choice of Gen 4 22s or 23s and we use TLR-1s on them. There's only about 30 of us so take that for what it's worth, but I don't think there has been a single malfunction experienced with any of the G22s. We got them pretty much as soon as they came out and each has over 1000 rounds through it.

Initially there were a lot of failures to feed or eject with the G23s. It was hard to diagnose because guys are trained to immediately clear the malfunction and aren't always very good at describing the malfunction. Glock was contacted and sent new extractors, recoil springs and possibly ejectors. Since all the weapons have had the most updated parts installed there have been no problems. We use Federal 180 gr. Tactical Bonded as well as Federal Hi-Shock 180 gr. for range ammo.