View Full Version : Magtech CBC 62gr FMJ 5.56 (556B)
This is kind of a new product on the market and wanted to give some info about it.
Magtech (CBC) is one of the few (if not only) companies producing a 62gr FMJ (none steel core) in 5.56. The casings are annealed, primers are sealed and bullet has the cannelure. I have found this ammo to be very accurate and reliable & consider it to be some of the best 5.56 ball produced today.
Please let us know if we can answer any questions.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Magtech/62gr_556_Box.jpg
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Magtech/62gr_556_50rds.jpg
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Magtech/62gr_556_Primer.jpg
C4
Are you getting this in regularly? I would like to try some but don't have the funds at this point.
I bought this ammo from Grant, and it shoots great for me.
Do you find it to be of better quality than Magtech 55gr?
Are you getting this in regularly? I would like to try some but don't have the funds at this point.
Somewhat. We have in stock now.
C4
I bought this ammo from Grant, and it shoots great for me.
Do you find it to be of better quality than Magtech 55gr?
I like the heavier grain weight so I prefer it.
C4
kaltesherz
05-18-13, 13:01
I didn't see it listen on your site, what's it going for?
I didn't see it listen on your site, what's it going for?
It is there (under Magtech).
C4
kaltesherz
05-18-13, 14:10
It is there (under Magtech).
C4
Thanks, I was looking under ammo and missed it. $500 per k is too rich for my blood, but looks like good ammo. I can't wait for this ammo drought to end so things can normalize again. Whatever "normalize" means.
Thanks, I was looking under ammo and missed it. $500 per k is too rich for my blood, but looks like good ammo. I can't wait for this ammo drought to end so things can normalize again. Whatever "normalize" means.
To be honest, you won't find this quality of ammo for cheaper. $450-$500 will be the new "norm" for 5.56.
C4
shaneinhisroom
05-18-13, 14:55
So unfortunate :( I lucked out on some prvi for 42 cents shipped last week, or else I would jump on a case of this in a heart beat.
kaltesherz
05-18-13, 15:08
To be honest, you won't find this quality of ammo for cheaper. $450-$500 will be the new "norm" for 5.56.
C4
What makes you think it'll be different this time than after the last "scare" when the President was elected? Prices shot up then as demand skyrocketed and then after a year prices dropped to pre-scare prices ($300 per k, plus or minus $20). I know the dry spell will last much longer this time, but I don't see any reason why eventually prices won't level out (other than inflation and increased cost of materials and gas, which shouldn't be too much).
As far as I know material prices have gone up and because manufacturers know that they can price it accordingly and it will sell.
Why sell ammo for 375.00-425.00 a case if you know you can sell it for almost 500.00 per case?
What makes you think it'll be different this time than after the last "scare" when the President was elected? Prices shot up then as demand skyrocketed and then after a year prices dropped to pre-scare prices ($300 per k, plus or minus $20). I know the dry spell will last much longer this time, but I don't see any reason why eventually prices won't level out (other than inflation and increased cost of materials and gas, which shouldn't be too much).
Order completed. Waiting at front door.
Eric
To be honest, you won't find this quality of ammo for cheaper. $450-$500 will be the new "norm" for 5.56.
C4
All things considered this would seem to be true.
While I know I can probably google it, for those of us reading this here can you specify where this was made and if they have any previous related affiliations? And while it's brass cased, does it seem to shoot clean?
What makes you think it'll be different this time than after the last "scare" when the President was elected? Prices shot up then as demand skyrocketed and then after a year prices dropped to pre-scare prices ($300 per k, plus or minus $20). I know the dry spell will last much longer this time, but I don't see any reason why eventually prices won't level out (other than inflation and increased cost of materials and gas, which shouldn't be too much).
Ammo never got this high last time. On top of that, the US Govt wasn't buying it either.
In 2012, QUALITY M855 for $430 a case sooooo.
C4
All things considered this would seem to be true.
While I know I can probably google it, for those of us reading this here can you specify where this was made and if they have any previous related affiliations? And while it's brass cased, does it seem to shoot clean?
It is made by CBC in Brazil. Magtech/CBC/Sellier & Bellot are all the same company.
C4
Grant, will the 55gr be the same price? The $370 price on your site looks good. :D
Grant, will the 55gr be the same price? The $370 price on your site looks good. :D
We haven't updated prices on M193 in over a year. We also don't intend to stock M193 as long as we can get this 62g FMJ.
C4
We haven't updated prices on M193 in over a year. We also don't intend to stock M193 as long as we can get this 62g FMJ.
C4
Good idea. I like this ammo a lot.
Good idea. I like this ammo a lot.
Me too. I think that Federal used to make something like this (62gr FMJ without the steel core in 5.56), but I have never seen it.
C4
One last note about this ammo. It has a flash retardant in it as well as a proprietary primer mixture that reduces flash. Their new Bonded LE ammo also has this.
C4
shows out of stock?
Ya, just sold out of it. Will see some more this week.
C4
Just had mine show up today.
Love the ammo, but DAMN do those folks like to glue the flaps on the case shut!!! I ripped the box apart. :D
iveschrhis
05-21-13, 06:37
Grant,
when do you expect to see the bonded version of the 62gr?
Have you shot any or seen any performance tests?
Thanks
Just had mine show up today.
Love the ammo, but DAMN do those folks like to glue the flaps on the case shut!!! I ripped the box apart. :D
Ya, they like to make sure that nothing comes open!
C4
Grant,
when do you expect to see the bonded version of the 62gr?
Have you shot any or seen any performance tests?
Thanks
No real ETA on that. I have seen some gel tests for the 147gr 9mm bonded and it looked good.
C4
This stuff has my interests peaked. This is better than 80% of 5.56 that's still selling for .70/rd around me.
This stuff has my interests peaked. This is better than 80% of 5.56 that's still selling for .70/rd around me.
Yep. Most of the 5.56 ammo available is typically blems, reloads or factory rejects from .Mil contracts. This is one of the FEW sources for FIRST quality 5.56 from a Military contract holder.
C4
Yep. Most of the 5.56 ammo available is typically blems, reloads or factory rejects from .Mil contracts. This is one of the FEW sources for FIRST quality 5.56 from a Military contract holder.
C4
I won't lie, I've been shooting alot of steel cased stuff. I find WPA and Tula at bigger retailers locally for .35 to .42 a round. Most people will sell it in local gun exchange forums for .50. So it would only make sense for me to grab a case or two next time it pops up.
I won't lie, I've been shooting alot of steel cased stuff. I find WPA and Tula at bigger retailers locally for .35 to .42 a round. Most people will sell it in local gun exchange forums for .50. So it would only make sense for me to grab a case or two next time it pops up.
Ya, a lot of people are shooting that crap ammo. That stuff SHOULD be priced at .25 cents a round.
C4
I completely agree with you.
Ya, a lot of people are shooting that crap ammo. That stuff SHOULD be priced at .25 cents a round.
C4
Actually that TULA would make for some decent ammo if they put a good bullet in it.
I disected and tested a variety of combos of powder and bullets... and the bottom line was that TULA had good marks on everything. But their bullet sucks balls and won't shoot inside of 4 MOA even with every other part of the cartridge replaced with match stuff.
Anymore of the Magtech 5.56 left? I like to get a case
Anymore of the Magtech 5.56 left? I like to get a case
We should get some more in next week.
C4
We should get some more in next week.
C4
Can you PM me, I like to prepaid for a case if possible.
Can you PM me, I like to prepaid for a case if possible.
No offense.. but do you really think he's got time to manage an off path transaction?
If pre-pay was an option, you'd be able to backorder on the website.
No offense.. but do you really think he's got time to manage an off path transaction?
If pre-pay was an option, you'd be able to backorder on the website.
Correct. Simply no time for such things.
C4
Can you PM me, I like to prepaid for a case if possible.
Grant, correct me if I am wrong, but the times I bought this ammo it never flew off the shelves in 30 seconds. So I think racezx9 should be able to get a case no problem.
Unless that is not what he was worried about.
Grant, correct me if I am wrong, but the times I bought this ammo it never flew off the shelves in 30 seconds. So I think racezx9 should be able to get a case no problem.
Unless that is not what he was worried about.
Thanks Zane, I have been looking for 5.56 for the new DD V4 I got for months, it would not work with my .223 55Grain (FTF). I called DD and they told me that I need to stick to 5.56 or heavier .223 because it require higher pressure in the 7/1 twist barrel. These looks like exactly what I am looking for.
Grant, correct me if I am wrong, but the times I bought this ammo it never flew off the shelves in 30 seconds. So I think racezx9 should be able to get a case no problem.
Unless that is not what he was worried about.
Those days are long gone. We will sell 10,000rds of it in 5 minutes (with only allowing 1 case PER person). ;)
C4
Those days are long gone. We will sell 10,000rds of it in 5 minutes (with only allowing 1 case PER person). ;)
C4
That's what I figure, I have a couple of training events and competition coming up and I like to use the new rifle, with work I can't be in front of the computer tracking ammo stock.
Those days are long gone. We will sell 10,000rds of it in 5 minutes (with only allowing 1 case PER person). ;)
C4
:eek:
I must have got lucky! Also, during recent times when people get ammo in stock I check their site throughout the day when possible to see how it is moving.
And it seems that your ammo lasted at least the whole day, into the next.
But I guess it says that before you can update OOS.
:eek:
I must have got lucky! Also, during recent times when people get ammo in stock I check their site throughout the day when possible to see how it is moving.
And it seems that your ammo lasted at least the whole day, into the next.
But I guess it says that before you can update OOS.
I have lake city 5.56 order at Sportsman's guide on back order since March of 2012 and another one since November of 2012, it's absolutely crazy out there. I just try to order when I can, but it's been scarce.
:eek:
I must have got lucky! Also, during recent times when people get ammo in stock I check their site throughout the day when possible to see how it is moving.
And it seems that your ammo lasted at least the whole day, into the next.
But I guess it says that before you can update OOS.
Correct.
C4
eternal24k
05-23-13, 20:44
Grant, you really have got to get a back in stock notification function on your site.
Oh, and a M4C group buy :D
Grant, you really have got to get a back in stock notification function on your site.
Oh, and a M4C group buy :D
We used to do it, but found most people are impatient and only want to buy things right at the moment when they want it. So it was generally a waste of our time to e-mail on a list.
C4
Mauser KAR98K
05-24-13, 11:10
Grant, I noticed Magtech also does .308. Any information how those stack up?
Grant, I noticed Magtech also does .308. Any information how those stack up?
Just got in some of the Match 168gr BTHP. I know that a well known bolt gun manufacturer tested a bunch of different ammo and found the Magtech ammo to be the most consistent of them all.
C4
Grant,
I been checking your site, when do you expect to get more 5.56?
Grant,
I been checking your site, when do you expect to get more 5.56?
In the coming weeks.
C4
I'll take a 500 round T&E sample. If you could get it out today, that'd be great!
30 cal slut
05-30-13, 14:26
Grant,
If you don't mind me asking, how is the QC on this CBC ammo?
I was shooting with a buddy not too long ago and we had a box of their .308, which was having issues with feeding and chambering in an AR-10.
It turns out the COAL in that batch was too long.
-slut
Grant,
If you don't mind me asking, how is the QC on this CBC ammo?
I was shooting with a buddy not too long ago and we had a box of their .308, which was having issues with feeding and chambering in an AR-10.
It turns out the COAL in that batch was too long.
-slut
QC is excellent. In some of their older .308, it was designed for the M1A type of weapons (thusly causing issues with certain more modern auto loaders).
C4
ClearedHot
05-31-13, 01:05
I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in seeing some chronograph and accuracy testing results for this ammo.
Where's Molon? :D
I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in seeing some chronograph and accuracy testing results for this ammo.
Where's Molon? :D
I don't know what happened to that Hipster. I think he's really one of those guitar strumming fags on the Geico commercial... and gave up shooting. :lol:
We could shoot some and give a decent review.... I'm not as thorough as Molon, but we can get a decent review done.
I used some Magtech 55gr at a recent EAG class, it seemed to be pretty good ammo.
Grant do you have an idea as to when you expect some back in stock?
I used some Magtech 55gr at a recent EAG class, it seemed to be pretty good ammo.
Grant do you have an idea as to when you expect some back in stock?
By next month we think.
C4
Thanks brother, I'll keep an eye out.
I ordered a case of the Magtech M193 recently and just got back from the range after shooting at paper (cold and blustery conditions). Not sure if the gods were smiling on me today, but this grouped incredibly well. Nothing in bulk (55g or 62g) that I've shot before matches its accuracy. Unfortunately, it looks like it is out of stock at G&RT as I can't seem to add it to my cart tonight. I'll be ordering more of this when available.
Set up: Complete BCM 16" mid length with a DD Omega rail and Vortex PST 1-4.
I ordered a case of the Magtech M193 recently and just got back from the range after shooting at paper (cold and blustery conditions). Not sure if the gods were smiling on me today, but this grouped incredibly well. Nothing in bulk (55g or 62g) that I've shot before matches its accuracy. Unfortunately, it looks like it is out of stock at G&RT as I can't seem to add it to my cart tonight. I'll be ordering more of this when available.
Set up: Complete BCM 16" mid length with a DD Omega rail and Vortex PST 1-4.
Glad it shot well for you. 62gr is in stock.
C4
Done.
You convinced me. It will be interesting to see how they compare.
To be honest, you won't find this quality of ammo for cheaper. $450-$500 will be the new "norm" for 5.56.
C4
How soon things change... Barely six months later, and you have this in stock at $435 shipped. The M193 is barely $400 shipped.
So much for the new "norm"?
How soon things change... Barely six months later, and you have this in stock at $435 shipped. The M193 is barely $400 shipped.
So much for the new "norm"?
Supply and demand. If there is NO ammo to be had, the prices are higher. If you have more access to it, the prices fall.
We can still charge $450 for the ammo (and get it), but if we can save people money, we try to.
C4
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Here's my target at 50 yards (I like a 50/200 zero) with the Vortex on 4x. This is better than my old eyes can usually produce, so I think I'll give credit to the ammo. Went on to create repetitive pleasing sounds on the 200 & 300 yard steel targets.
Is the Magtech 55gr a M193 clone or does it's BC differ?
Has anyone ever tested the fragmentation of this round is it more like m193
broberts001
01-14-15, 04:47
^^ Interested :)
Livefreeordie92
07-01-15, 09:29
Sorry for the necropost, but has anyone seen this stuff available anywhere lately? I used to be able to get this stuff all day until the M855 scare, then it just sort of disappeared and hasn't really come back.
Sorry for the necropost, but has anyone seen this stuff available anywhere lately? I used to be able to get this stuff all day until the M855 scare, then it just sort of disappeared and hasn't really come back.
It won't be available again till fall (most likely) due to them filling a large .Mil contract.
C4
Have any of you guys chronographed the 62 grain ammo and/or checked to see how well it regulates to the ACOG stadia lines? I'm shooting IMI green tip now, and CBC 77 grain, both are fast and accurate.
I grabbed two cases after I heard about that, and since then it has been gone.
It won't be available again till fall (most likely) due to them filling a large .Mil contract.
C4
Livefreeordie92
07-09-15, 18:38
It won't be available again till fall (most likely) due to them filling a large .Mil contract.
C4
Thank you for the info sir. Can't wait to go back to this stuff as my standard ammo.
It won't be available again till fall (most likely) due to them filling a large .Mil contract.
C4
Knowing anymore about this stuff coming back, yet?
Thanks!
Knowing anymore about this stuff coming back, yet?
Thanks!
Don't know for sure. I know there is some awesome 55gr 556 coming out of MEN shortly.
C4
Don't know for sure. I know there is some awesome 55gr 556 coming out of MEN shortly.
C4
What's MEN? I'm trying to decide between getting one last case while prices are good or waiting for this stuff to come back...
What's MEN? I'm trying to decide between getting one last case while prices are good or waiting for this stuff to come back...
http://www.men-defencetec.de/en/home/
From all reports from people in the "know" this is the best M193 on the market.
C4
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http://www.men-defencetec.de/en/home/
From all reports from people in the "know" this is the best M193 on the market.
C4
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I assume you have plans to start carrying this soon?
I assume you have plans to start carrying this soon?
Thousands of rounds on the truck to is now.
C4
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Thousands of rounds on the truck to is now.
C4
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I'm interested grant but i have some questions whats the price point your looking at for a case of men and I saw at the bottom of the men site that it says cbc so what's the difference between the cbc m193 and the men m193
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I'm interested grant but i have some questions whats the price point your looking at for a case of men and I saw at the bottom of the men site that it says cbc so what's the difference between the cbc m193 and the men m193
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Should be in price with the Magtech M193: http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=CBC556A
The MEN ammo is made in Germany and is who outfits the German police and Military. CBC is made in Brazil and outfits a lot of central and south American Militaries. There are three companies under the S&B flag (Magtech, CBC and MEN).
C4
Interesting, I will have to try this stuff out. I have been a big fan of Magtech/ CBC ammo since buying my first case of M193 from you. I have seen some CBC M193 online lately but the price is a little steep. I am hoping this stuff can come out a bit cheaper.
Interesting, I will have to try this stuff out. I have been a big fan of Magtech/ CBC ammo since buying my first case of M193 from you. I have seen some CBC M193 online lately but the price is a little steep. I am hoping this stuff can come out a bit cheaper.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?177289-A-new-M193-comes-to-market-(MEN)!
C4
grant,
is this stuff still being stocked?
grant,
is this stuff still being stocked?
We have not seen this in awhile. Another great (just as accurate option) is the German made MEN M193. Hackathorn got sub 1MOA groups out of it with his Colt.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=MEN556A
C4
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thanks. i'll pick up some. i just need to figure out what else i need on your website :)
Pm Sent
We have not seen this in awhile. Another great (just as accurate option) is the German made MEN M193. Hackathorn got sub 1MOA groups out of it with his Colt.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=MEN556A
C4
PM Sent
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Back in stock!
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=CBC556B
C4
ffhounddog
04-18-17, 23:53
No fair need to buy the wife an Anniversary present and you get this in stock. Should tell her to return the two cases of Wolf Gold she got at the cop shop $525 OTD.....wait my wife bought me ammo....what am I talking about.
Straight Shooter
05-10-17, 02:13
Anyone know how the 62gr chronoed?
Honestly, I didn't bother to check it. It's always been good for me and the price is much better than most of the M855 garbage.
Anyone know how the 62gr chronoed?
Straight Shooter
05-13-17, 05:07
Honestly, I didn't bother to check it. It's always been good for me and the price is much better than most of the M855 garbage.
Got 100 rounds of it coming next week. Will chrono & report here.
IG- would you recommend this as a SD/SHTF round to stock up on?
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