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Hadn't seen this posted yet. I thought it was funny considering my department finally decided to have annual weapons inspections starting this year (I have been with the department for 4 years) and we are issued glock 17s. From what I get from the video the ones having issues are .40s and Glock is blaming their ammo.
http://www.guns.com/2013/05/14/florida-sheriffs-office-reports-problems-with-glock-service-pistols-video/
Mysteryman
05-19-13, 11:51
If its the video about one dept having issues, its really a non issue. Regular maintenance and inspection by the officers carrying them solves the problem. The likelihood that the ammo is a factor is also high. With only one dept claiming such problems and as you say it appears to be only .40 cal guns, I wouldn't worry. I'm a big Glock fan but I wouldn't run any of their .40 cal guns.
MM
brushy bill
05-19-13, 17:29
Nice. The miracle of MIM demo'd again. Unsure why someone hasn't capitalized on this with Glock and S&W and offered a tool steel striker.
Nice. The miracle of MIM demo'd again. Unsure why someone hasn't capitalized on this with Glock and S&W and offered a tool steel striker.
Probably because it isnt really necessary.
All of my Glocks have MIM strikers and none of them have failed. Even with a visibly chipped striker my oldest Glock still functioned with my chosen carry round. I DID replace the striker but i had zero issues with properly manufactured ammunition...
Glockworx, Jager Products and Lonewolf all make stainless strikers.
Glockworx and Jager Products make stainless strikers with extended tips as well.
MIM is a non issue when it is done right.
Having said that, Glock QC IS slipping...
i just did a search on the fore mentioned strikers...just for kicks. people seem most please with the jager sriker. is there any benefit to an aftermarket striker if not running a reduced power spring?
None.
The Jager seems to be the best of the breed but again, not really required for factory ammo. Keep in mind that it also changes the trigger feel. Some people like the change, some do not.
Light strikes are so few and far between with factory ammo and factory striker springs that getting an extended tip just doesnt really make a whole heck of a lot of sense.
Changing the striker spring also wouldnt hurt. On a 1911 people change them out after the second recoil spring has been swapped so why this part remains in a Glock so long is perplexing. Mine goes out with the trigger spring at 10k or second recil spring on a Gen4.
Just curious: When did Glock first start using MIM parts, and which parts are MIM?
2009 from what I've been able to research.
Locking block, striker and extractor. There could be other parts.
Robb Jensen
06-06-13, 09:02
Glock locking blocks and extractors have always been cast/MIM. In 2008 or later they went to MIM strikers, the only thing I've noticed is with 9mm the tip of the firing pin gets round off and shortened by about .012", after about 10K rounds. A simple replacement of the striker fixes any light strike issues.
GLOCK doesn't make the springs in their guns a Swiss company does. They also don't make the striker, locking block nor extractor but won't reveal who does.
I attended Advanced Armorers class at GLOCK in 2010.
I can't say 100% the locking blocks were but for sure
the extractors WERE investment cast. Better then MIM
I can clearly see the difference between my gen2 19
extractor and my gen3 23 from 03/2012.
OK, MIM locking block on bottom, investment cast on top.
You can see the MIM mold mark circle/dot in the middle.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_13/124508_MIM_Parts_in_a_Glock_.html
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv297/malcolmw5626/glockRTF2_BLOCK.jpg
Better view
http://www.glockforum.net/forum/glock-troubleshooting-maintenance/3542-chipped-mim-striker.html
http://www.glockforum.net/forum/attachments/glock-troubleshooting-maintenance/1670d1365128482-chipped-mim-striker-non-mim-image.jpghttp://www.glockforum.net/forum/attachments/glock-troubleshooting-maintenance/1669d1365128461-chipped-mim-striker-mim-image.jpg
Slvr Surfr
06-06-13, 11:26
That was a pretty useless article. It would have been nice to narrow down the type of glocks that the department has been having issues with. The one shown on the first armorers table was a gen 2. Then they show a gen 3 later.
Too generalized and lacking facts IMHO.
I agree with that, but it does bring to light a possible
issue with the new MIM strikers, either material or ammo
related I don't know. Glock replace all of Coral Gables, FL
dept strikers at their request, So something is up.
I wish Toyota would build a Glock Rip off.
I haven't seen this issue yet. What year were the problem service pistols manufactured? What serial number range?
My question is, Where is there a steel striker after market option that isn't a Lightned competition striker?
This is as close as I've found.
Contacted the company, comes with stock weight spring
and they claim OK for a carry gun.
http://shop.lspi.com/Steel-Strikers_c11.htm
http://shop.lspi.com/images/LS-7920-b.jpg
This is as close as I've found.
Contacted the company, comes with stock weight spring
and they claim OK for a carry gun.
http://shop.lspi.com/Steel-Strikers_c11.htm
http://shop.lspi.com/images/LS-7920-b.jpg
I think it's still lightened...... Just not as light as the titanium one.
I think it's still lightened...... Just not as light as the titanium one.
Correct
Littlelebowski
06-06-13, 14:36
Nice. The miracle of MIM demo'd again. Unsure why someone hasn't capitalized on this with Glock and S&W and offered a tool steel striker.
Because it's not a problem.
Because it's not a problem.
OK, MIM vs older tool steel. The MIM striker has maybe 1000 rds.
The tool steel several thousand and looks new.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/sciolist_photo/2912001.jpghttp://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/sciolist_photo/2912002x.jpg
I'm so frustrated with Glock. :rolleyes:
Littlelebowski
06-06-13, 15:25
Yup, those strikers are failing left and right!
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brushy bill
06-06-13, 20:44
Yup, those strikers are failing left and right!
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I've noticed a lot of your posts seem like this...nothing of value added to the discussion just bandwith wasted with sarcasm. I thought we were moving away from this.
Littlelebowski
06-07-13, 06:16
I've noticed a lot of your posts seem like this...nothing of value added to the discussion just bandwith wasted with sarcasm. I thought we were moving away from this.
Are the strikers failing in significant numbers? Is this an actual issue to be concerned about? When I had actual problems with Glocks, I let people know right away. This "issue" does not seem to be an issue whatsoever.
Are the strikers failing in significant numbers? Is this an actual issue to be concerned about? When I had actual problems with Glocks, I let people know right away. This "issue" does not seem to be an issue whatsoever.
No. I've probably seen more in use than most and only have seen one striker tip that was broken. It's such a non-issue. In fact the actual problem in the OP story came down to an ammo issue.
Heavy Metal
03-11-15, 22:20
Has there been anything new come to light on this? Consensus still it was the ammo?
If you haven't heard anything in two years, Id' say it's a non-issue. Reading the replies from two years ago, it seemed to be a non-issue then.
Dead thread is dead.
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