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Amp Mangum
05-22-13, 13:46
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303
http://www.itv.com/news/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/22/police-investigating-possible-terror-attack-in-london/
Magic_Salad0892
05-22-13, 14:09
One of the comments jumps out at me:
Muslims for the win! Seriously, they know how to do it; breed like rabbits and behead anybody who looks at you cross eyed. THAT’S the mentality that wins fights. They will also prevail because they know where women belong. We immediately flushed our world dominance the second we let women into politics, the workplace and the voting booth. If you’re still trying to get laid you probably disagree but if you’ve finally reached the point where you can take off the ‘I desperately need to breed’ goggles you’ve realized that women are missing a necessary chromosome and no amount of projection or wishing is going to make them competent or sane.
Amp Mangum
05-22-13, 14:34
Winston Churchill has to be spinning in his grave.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/22/British-Soldier-Hacked-to-Death-Beheaded-With-Machete-In-London
Belmont31R
05-22-13, 14:36
Had our own terror attacks right here against military personnel.
Amp Mangum
05-22-13, 14:39
No, that was "work place violence". :confused:
VooDoo6Actual
05-22-13, 14:43
MUSLIMS SCREAMING "ALLAHU AKBAR" BEHEAD BRITISH SOLDIER ON PUBLIC STREET
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/05/muslims-screaming-allahu-akbar-behead-british-soldier-on-public-street.html
Inviting more Boston-type massacres
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/22/inviting-more-boston-type-massacres/
As details come out I'll be interested in:
Police Response Time with unarmed police
Police Response Time with armed police
Given that its London, I'm assuming that the armed police were their pretty quickly. Had it been out in the country side, they would have been shit out of luck.
Savages... In many parts of the US, Seattle included, they probably would not have had time to do their little press conference. I would have substituted Iphone 4 for Glock 19 pretty quick.
Video of Woolrich terrorist.
http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FEROXP8JDG9M
Of course falling this I'm sure the Brits will not see the folly in having a disarmed populace ... knife control seemed to work out real well.
Video of Woolrich terrorist.
http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FEROXP8JDG9M
Of course falling this I'm sure the Brits will not see the folly in having a disarmed populace ... knife control seemed to work out real well.
......that makes me absolutely furious.
Video of Woolrich terrorist.
http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FEROXP8JDG9M
Of course falling this I'm sure the Brits will not see the folly in having a disarmed populace ... knife control seemed to work out real well.
No makers of poor policy ever see the folly of those poor policies. They just dig the whole deeper with new and worse policies to make up/cover up the last round of them.
BTW, report I read said they had a gun and it misfired when they attempted to shoot at the arriving police.
I'm sure the BGs having a gun (if true) will be ignored or downplayed heavily.
No makers of poor policy ever see the folly of those poor policies. They just dig the whole deeper with new and worse policies to make up/cover up the last round of them.
BTW, report I read said they had a gun and it misfired when they attempted to shoot at the arriving police.
I'm sure the BGs having a gun (if true) will be ignored or downplayed heavily.
......that makes me absolutely furious.
I especially like how everyone is standing around in a state of peritraumatic dissociation OR their just fcking oblivious to what happened..
Seems like these guys were content with a single victim as they approached a bus afterwards trying to get photographed and filmed.
Sad to say this, but they probably could have caused a lot more bloodshed if they wanted to.
Voodoo_Man
05-22-13, 17:09
Amazing how sheepish the people are standing around.
I especially like how everyone is standing around in a state of peritraumatic dissociation OR their just fcking oblivious to what happened..
Sheep, the lot of them.
Amazing how sheepish the people are standing around.
Their government did a good job of turning them into complacent little sheep marching in step with the powers that be.
We are currently and quite sadly on the exact same azimuth in this country...
Voodoo_Man
05-22-13, 17:26
Their government did a good job of turning them into complacent little sheep marching in step with the powers that be.
We are currently and quite sadly on the exact same azimuth in this country...
**** that mess.
madisonsfinest
05-22-13, 17:29
Too bad no one ran those guys over with their cars. At least the Blaze video shows the terrorists down and out.
**** that mess.
Its true though...
Voodoo_Man
05-22-13, 17:30
Its true though...
Yea, it seems like it, sheep will follow sheep, that is damn true.
Lets keep that from happening here.
Am I seeing this correctly... the guy with the knives was the killer? He chopped the soldier's head off and then did an on camera interview?
Am I seeing this correctly... the guy with the knives was the killer? He chopped the soldier's head off and then did an on camera interview?
That would be affirmative...
Yea, it seems like it, sheep will follow sheep, that is damn true.
Lets keep that from happening here.
You're a bit too late to that party. The prudent thing to do is train the young ones to not be sheep. There are sadly a lot of lost causes out there
They have all turned soft... just standing around filming and not doing a damn thing.
Not to speculate, but the fact they were so brutal on this poor guy & didn't hack up anyone else, I'd put money on them having this planned & him singled out prior.
Words cannot describe how I feel about this. Prayers out to the fallen's family.
Un****ing real.
That's all I got.
They have all turned soft... just standing around filming and not doing a damn thing.
Well being unarmed limits ones options when confronted by a lunatic with a meat cleaver, someone should have ran them down with their car tho atleast.
Not to speculate, but the fact they were so brutal on this poor guy & didn't hack up anyone else, I'd put money on them having this planned & him singled out prior.
Words cannot describe how I feel about this. Prayers out to the fallen's family.
Hard to say, if you watch the vid I'm guessing the car that wrecked was/is the victims so it may have been random.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-22-13, 18:33
Well being unarmed limits ones options when confronted by a lunatic with a meat cleaver, someone should have ran them down with their car tho atleast.
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European cars now have pedestrian friendly bumpers....
You'd have to back into them.
European cars now have pedestrian friendly bumpers....
You'd have to back into them.
Humanity is doomed.... :suicide:
It's like a Dali painting come to life.
A murderer doing a camera interview.
A little old lady walking her grocery cart up to the bloody man with cleavers and knives.
The two killers standing around at the scene afterwards waiting for the police to arrive and apparently discussing politics.
Bystanders laying in the street next to the dead body for reasons I can't imagine.
Group of people on corner waiting for bus or something.
.... and pretty much no one reacting to what has happened or is happening in a manner that you would expect.
That is absolutely the craziest thing I have ever seen. It's like a dream where everything is clear but none of the pieces actually belong together and then you wake up and think... oh, no wonder.. it was a crazy dream.
Talk about a WTF moment.... that has to be way up on the list.
Hard to say, if you watch the vid I'm guessing the car that wrecked was/is the victims so it may have been random.
I thought the car belonged to Edward Sissorhands and his buddy Shaft over there. I thought they ran the soldier down and then chopped him up and threw him in the street.
I thought the car belonged to Edward Sissorhands and his buddy Shaft over there. I thought they ran the soldier down and then chopped him up and threw him in the street.
I read a synopsis from a different article that was not the OPs. If that was the stated circumstances I retract my previous speculative claims.
Man... listen to this one.... this lady tried to have them give her the weapons.... transcript below... some is hard to understand.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10074881/Mum-talked-down-Woolwich-terrorists-who-told-her-We-want-to-start-a-war-in-London-tonight.html
MPs praised the “extraordinary bravery” of the women and raised concerns about why it took armed police 20 minutes to arrive at the scene while people’s lives were at risk.
Man... listen to this one.... this lady tried to have them give her the weapons.... transcript below... some is hard to understand.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10074881/Mum-talked-down-Woolwich-terrorists-who-told-her-We-want-to-start-a-war-in-London-tonight.html
I guess its a good thing she wasn't armed with hand gun that only had 7 rounds in it. She might have shot the bad guy.. god for bid.
Apparently, "unarmed" cops were at the far end of the street refusing to confront the savage animals. It took "armed" cops 20 minutes to arrive.
I thought the car belonged to Edward Sissorhands and his buddy Shaft over there. I thought they ran the soldier down and then chopped him up and threw him in the street.
That is how the news reported it.
Shitbag 1 and Shitbag 2 first hit him with the car, jumped out and stabbed him multiple times and reportedly decapitated him.
Then walked around to people filming so they could justify their "brave actions."
That is how the news reported it.
Shitbag 1 and Shitbag 2 first hit him with the car, jumped out and stabbed him multiple times and reportedly decapitated him.
Then walked around to people filming so they could justify their "brave actions."
That's how I took it as well. I could be wrong, but I thought I read or heard they were trying to make a statement. It's hard to imagine the 2 just go out and randomly, through pure dumb luck hit a supposed soldier with a mil aid organization shirt on, if all those things are true. Add to that having knives, cleavers & a pistol looks to me as a planned event.
This event makes me sick.
Apparently, "unarmed" cops were at the far end of the street refusing to confront the savage animals. It took "armed" cops 20 minutes to arrive.
So the first responders are actually the second responders? What good does that do to protect and serve?
Amazing.
-Jax
Holy fvck!
I'm late on this one.
Talk about surreal.
Cannot figure out how Londoners do not feel the need to go about armed. Actually, I know many do but the Crown Agents want nothing rondo with that.
Odd thing: the Crown is perhaps the biggest supporter of Wahhabbists and these two murdering bastards are obviously blathering Wahhabis.
Hopefully, the irony is not lost upon the British subjects and they demand change.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
One of the comments jumps out at me:
Muslims for the win! Seriously, they know how to do it; breed like rabbits and behead anybody who looks at you cross eyed. THAT’S the mentality that wins fights. They will also prevail because they know where women belong. We immediately flushed our world dominance the second we let women into politics, the workplace and the voting booth. If you’re still trying to get laid you probably disagree but if you’ve finally reached the point where you can take off the ‘I desperately need to breed’ goggles you’ve realized that women are missing a necessary chromosome and no amount of projection or wishing is going to make them competent or sane.
Interesting viewpoint....Meanwhile, islamofascist MOA has formed a "city state" in up-state NY, it is governed under the strict principles of sharia.
What's of enormous interest here, is the lack of action taken against it, by either the Marxist government of NYS, or amerika...
http://lawenforcementtoday.com/tag/hancock-ny/
From the link,
In Hancock, NY an Islamic community that sits on 80 acres of land has decided to form its own government. They call their community: The Town of Islamberg. They have their own mayor, deputy mayor and five town council members. None of them are elected, of course.
They even boast that their “town” provides departments of education, medical, finance and land development services.
This Islamic compound has truly become a city-state. Though not recognized as a legitimate township by the City of Hancock, this Islamic community nevertheless enforces its own laws on the “citizens” within its borders. They do so by using the iron fist of Sharia law.
I interviewed a member of this camp, which sits deep in the Catskills Mountains of upstate New York. The Islamic group that has established this camp is part a network known as Muslims of the Americas (MOA), which has documented links to Al Qaeda.
MOA has established similar villages in nearly three-dozen locations nationwide, with other prominent camps found in Texas, Virginia, South Carolina, Georgia, California and Tennessee.
Cannot figure out how Londoners do not feel the need to go about armed.
Would be a bit too late to start thinking like that now in London.
Would be a bit too late to start thinking like that now in London.
Yep, most of the Brits I know either don't want anything to do with guns or they like guns but have resigned that there is no way in hell they will ever have them.
I don't think this incident will have even the slightest impact on anyone over there regarding being armed in public.
ForTehNguyen
05-22-13, 22:20
just goes to show that this guy felt emboldened enough to do the murder, talk about it on camera and hang out a bit waiting 20 minutes for cops to come.
Try that here and you'd get put down so fast
That's what blows my mind. You have murderers walking around with bloody weapons in their hands and people are just talking to them like what's up daddyo.
Craziest thing I have ever seen.
That's what blows my mind. You have murderers walking around with bloody weapons in their hands and people are just talking to them like what's up daddyo.
Craziest thing I have ever seen.
Not much else an INDIVIDUAL could do as the monsters have shown their hand and the commoner "has no hands".
Disarming the people is never a good idea.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
So the first responders are actually the second responders?More like third responders. First responder: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/home-girl-12-shoots-intruder-article-1.1188229
Moose-Knuckle
05-23-13, 01:53
"You people will never be safe . . . "
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/londonoxygenthief_zps1c7d3f1f.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/AKS-74/media/londonoxygenthief_zps1c7d3f1f.jpg.html)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d0f_1369235265
I think he also said, "your government doesn't care about you."
More truth from him than the "people" deserve.
So is this the new face of terror? One or two individuals carrying out attacks like this and the Boston bombing?
I certainly hope not. Crap like this was known to happen in the Southern Philippines, in their neck of the woods specifically, way back when. The same type of pussy-extremist would rush a crowded area and hack people. It was referred to as "horomentado" or "joromentado", IINM.
I'm unsure as to what is more appalling. The act by these pieces of human shit, or the ****ing morons standing around doing absolutely nothing at all.
It's sad this had to happen somewhere where an armed civilian couldn't have put them both down like rabid dogs.
That's what blows my mind. You have murderers walking around with bloody weapons in their hands and people are just talking to them like what's up daddyo.
Craziest thing I have ever seen.
Maybe not the craziest, but definitely in the top 5. They knew there would be cameras everywhere. I am sure there are videos of the whole act given the number of cameras that London has on the streets alone. They wanted to be seen & heard. If this is the new face of extremist, there will be many more to follow their shoes. Think about it, when they try to build bombs, many get caught attempting to purchase certain items. With this type of attack, a person can be completely under the radar until they do their deed. Think of the carnage just one of these assholes could do with a machette in a crowd, especially in a confined area with children. I'll bet the farm we'll see more of this coming soon to a city near you, especially if the video of the actual perps is blasted on the news.
I'm unsure as to what is more appalling. The act by these pieces of human shit, or the ****ing morons standing around doing absolutely nothing at all.
It's sad this had to happen somewhere where an armed civilian couldn't have put them both down like rabid dogs.
At least one woman tried to do something.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/23/brave-woman-tried-to-reason-with-london-attackers/
I keep seeing calls for the Brits to have reacted to the immediate threat with violence. It will never happen. They have been conditioned to accept their fate. Additionally, if they were to take action, then they would most likely face heavier prosecution than the two men who initiated the attack will.
As far as the armed responders taking 20 minutes to arrive, doesn't surprise me with all the "health and safety" regulations that must first be met. Read this if you want to see how much they are hampered:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104358/Simon-Burgess-drowned-firemen-refused-wade-3ft-deep-lake-health-safety-rules.html
Say anything about the immediate response to the savage act but notice how quick the British PM called the incident a "terrorist" attack, as opposed to the wishy washy way that the Washington regime handled the last few terrorist activities in this country.
I keep seeing calls for the Brits to have reacted to the immediate threat with violence. It will never happen. They have been conditioned to accept their fate. Additionally, if they were to take action, then they would most likely face heavier prosecution than the two men who initiated the attack will.
This. I was going to post this last night and decided not to bother.
They are beyond disarmed and demoralized, they are beaten down to the point that IF they respond with violence to protect themselves or another citizen they know they can expect criminal charges as a result. Is it any wonder they stood by just watching? It's all they've been taught from birth.
Belmont31R
05-23-13, 09:06
This. I was going to post this last night and decided not to bother.
They are beyond disarmed and demoralized, they are beaten down to the point that IF they respond with violence to protect themselves or another citizen they know they can expect criminal charges as a result. Is it any wonder they stood by just watching? It's all they've been taught from birth.
We do the same thing here. Guy was charged in DC for shooting a Pitt bull attacking a little kid with an unregistered gun. Searched his house and found two more. We're at the point in this country if you use a firearm to protect yourself or others they will use a fine tooth comb to look for anything they can charge you with.
Or even with the tornado they cordoned the whole area off and basically said the gov will handle everything.
We're just as bad with conditioned people not wanting to stick their necks out for strangers. The gov will swoop in and pick you apart looking for charges. How many times do the police tell people not to take matters into their own hands?
We do the same thing here. Guy was charged in DC for shooting a Pitt bull attacking a little kid with an unregistered gun. Searched his house and found two more. We're at the point in this country if you use a firearm to protect yourself or others they will use a fine tooth comb to look for anything they can charge you with.
Or even with the tornado they cordoned the whole area off and basically said the gov will handle everything.
We're just as bad with conditioned people not wanting to stick their necks out for strangers. The gov will swoop in and pick you apart looking for charges. How many times do the police tell people not to take matters into their own hands?
Not everywhere, but I understand where you're coming from.
At least one woman tried to do something.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/23/brave-woman-tried-to-reason-with-london-attackers/
That link had been updated with more information on the two terrorists as being on the LEO radar. Shade of FBI/Boston/chechen brothers?
Would be a bit too late to start thinking like that now in London.
No kidding, last year I was in a Stevenage area Tesco(like Walmart), and saw a sign for the silverware sets stating that they had to be purchased by someone over 21.
All of the people lollygagging amaze me. If something like this was to happen here, I'd hope witnesses at the very least tackled the BGs.
VooDoo6Actual
05-23-13, 11:37
I think he also said, "your government doesn't care about you."
More truth from him than the "people" deserve.
Caught that as well.
Don't forget to tie in the riots in Sweden. Muslim shitbags have been attacking police and torching cars and buildings for the past 4 nights there.
This was NOT terrorism. It was Road Rage.... and the fault of George Bush.
One of the comments jumps out at me:
Muslims for the win! Seriously, they know how to do it; breed like rabbits and behead anybody who looks at you cross eyed. THAT’S the mentality that wins fights.
This is one of the strategies Muslims are using through out the world. They will out breed the indigenous population and seek to impose Sharia law through sheer numbers. All while utilizing the welfare system and taking advantage of all the benefits they can muster. Anyone who hasn't caught on to this yet is a few steps behind.
brickboy240
05-23-13, 12:35
I have relatives in Sweden. Nowhere near those riots but around Stockholm.
They tell me all sorts of horror stories about the immigrant problems in Sweden.
Americans have this golden view of Sweden and pretty much Scandinavia in general. That it is clean, pretty and crime free...some sort of utopia full of healthy and beautiful blonde, blue eyed people. Well...that might have been true 15-20 years ago but Sweden is changing and not for the good.
What happened in Sweden is their liberal government let in tons of immigrants from the Balkans, Turkey and some former Soviet satellite countries. Most were brown skinned Muslims.
These immigrants (much like our Latino immigrants) made little or no steps to assimilate into Swedish society. They lived only near others like them, rarely learned the language or the culture/customs of the Swedes. Like our Mexican immigrants, they actually disliked the culture of the country they immigrated to and were mostly there to work and enjoy not being in a war zone.
The Swedish govt. also gave them tons of benefits. Medical care, food stamps and helped them with housing. They tried to help them with jobs, but many would not learn the language nor would they adopt any of the culture so most of the native Swedes were not enthused to hire them.
The Swede natives began to dislike and abhor the new immigrants. They were offended that these new comers would not learn the culture or the language. They disliked the fact that they were paying high taxes and abiding by the rules, while these newcomers were living as they pleased and not assimilating one bit. Sound familiar?
Pretty soon, the Muslim immigrants in Sweden got into petty crimes and the drug trade. They also got into prostitution and other seedy endeavors. As this happened...the riff between the native Anglo Swedes and the immigrant brown skinned Muslims widened.
So now Sweden faces the riots and unrest we saw in Britain and France, because their liberal govts allowed in a huge population of these people and are lax about enforcing any laws on them for fear of angering the Muslims or offending them.
This is also going on in Denmark and to a very smaller degree in Norway.
As I said...I have an aunt, uncle and three cousins there and this is the story they give me. They live in total fear of these people, because they know that the govt. will not really crack down on them and allow them to do as they please.
My Swedish relatives feel much like we do....that our once great and wonderful country is long gone to a bunch of ungrateful, abrasive and unruly immigrants.
I look at places like Sweden and England and think...this is us in 5 years or less....if we are not careful.
-brickboy240
"Troops in London 'advised not to wear their uniforms outside bases'..."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4939124/Woolwich-terror-suspect-revealed-sources-name-man-as-Michael-Adebolajo.html
How typical of leadership, cowering before Islamists. Don't allow people to defend themselves, just ask them to hide who they are and submit to Islamist threats.
This was NOT terrorism. It was Road Rage.... and the fault of George Bush.
Thank God! I feel so much better now. Guess Boston wasn't terrorism either, just a case of over-enthusiastic fireworks.
brickboy240
05-23-13, 13:13
For 20 minutes...the people on the streets in England just walked by, stared, filmed or did nothing.
If those two had tried that stunt in Texas...well...the outcome would be VERY different.
How is it that these are the descendents of the ones that beat the Germans?
-brickboy240
Thank God! I feel so much better now. Guess Boston wasn't terrorism either, just a case of over-enthusiastic fireworks.
Yep. Just a fireworks violation. $50 fine or somesuch if they'd have played it cool.... Then an appointment to the Obama Administration some place.
Brits begin anti-Muslim riots. Video here (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-23/rioters-clash-with-london-police/4708010).
How many of you realize that the government officials who lord over these people (and us) know damn well what they are doing? They CREATE the problem to change society to their liking - laws against the drugs they KNOW, AID & ABET into nation, violence and prostitution. The Wahhabists? Look to the City of London, Washington, DC, Tel Aviv and Brussels (NATO HQ). Remember the KLA? I do.
Here they are using the Blacks and Hispanics. I swear most of you haven't a clue as to what is going on as you don't seem to recognize that YOUR gov't has been nurturing violent entities and placing them inside your borders for some time. It's not all blacks: just the Black Nationalist Separatists; its not all Hispanics: just the Hispanic Separatists; its not all Jews: its just the Political Zionists; its not all Muslims: its just the Wahhabbists and Salafists and so on and so on.
When you group ALL of just about anything you err greatly.
I love "diversity" but we cannot have it if there aren't enough well paying jobs for our own. If there were really a surplus of high tech, high paying and solid manufacturing jobs that Americans could not fill then, yes, import highly skilled persons and pay them equivalent wages. If not leave them where they are.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Brits begin anti-Muslim riots. Video here (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-23/rioters-clash-with-london-police/4708010).
Hegelianism at its finest.
The people will be reinvigorated for war in Africa and the Middle East for the Crown's British East India Company.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
brickboy240
05-23-13, 13:39
Oh I have a clue...don't kid yourself!
I just told you what my Swedish cousins said about those folks in Sweden and what they are doing. Same thing is going on here, except the majority is Latino/black but some agitators are Muslim immigrants....look at 9-11 and Boston.
Once again...the problem is Muslims.
I mentioned this before and got a shitload of "but not all Muslims are like this" and other Muslim toe-sucking nonsense. Surrre....keep telling yourselves that when they cleaver your friggin head.
And then other morons will blabber on about, "well....look at what the Christians did in the crusades and inquisition...blah...blah." Nice...but I don't see Catholics or Methodists taking meat cleavers to soldiers or buying pressure cookers. Keep deluding yourselves...
In America, we will see the same kinds of attacks once the non-white immigrants realize that our govt. will also treat them with kid gloves and the native Anglos won't do shit to them.
Look at England and Europe...that is us in 2-5 years....tops.
-brickboy240
I mentioned this before and got a shitload of "but not all Muslims are like this" and other Muslim toe-sucking nonsense. Surrre....keep telling yourselves that when they cleaver your friggin head.
Sounds like you've been reading NOODLES Jihad loving posts. :rolleyes:
VooDoo6Actual
05-23-13, 14:01
Hegelianism at its finest.
Your on it Dawg BUT most here are not switched on yet to get it.
didactic diatribes to follow in 3-2-1.
brickboy240
05-23-13, 14:16
Well..some like to think we can "co-exist" with these people.
YOU might want to "co-exist" but THEY have very different plans.
The problem is Muslims. The moderate ones (...if they do exist) are too damn passive and will do nothing to reign in their kooks. And the squishy Anglos think that if we just be nice to them, leave Gitmo and get out of their counties they will stop all of this. Well...that is quite a gamble! LOL
And it does not only happen with recent immigrant Muslims. Some are born here or in the UK and STILL wind up blowing things up or causing trouble.
But go ahead and call us all xenophobes or small minded racists for pointing this out if it makes you feel better.
Ok, so some of you know a few Muslims that you think are decent people. Great. I can guarantee you that if those people do not want trouble or harm, they know someone or have family members that surely do. The Boston bombers lived amongst Gentiles and they all thought that they were best buds.
The unwillingness of facing the fact that Islam is the problem will be our downfall.
-brickboy240
Hegelianism at its finest.
The people will be reinvigorated for war in Africa and the Middle East for the Crown's British East India Company.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Your on it Dawg BUT most here are not switched on yet to get it.
didactic diatribes to follow in 3-2-1.
Are either of you two capable of uttering complete and coherent thoughts? Why is it always veiled innuendo with you two?
I dare either one of you to present a coherent explanation of Hegel's philosophy without consulting Wikipedia, and then explain how it applies to the current topic of discussion. You should clearly and coherently explain the motivations of each actor in light of Hegel's philosophy, as well as explain the mechanisms by which these actors move to achieve their goals. You've got it all figured out, so this should be easy for you two. Right?
Do you really have any idea what you're talking about? Or will you just respond with "keep your head in the sand" or "you're not switched on to it dawg" or some such nonsense?
VooDoo6Actual
05-23-13, 14:24
The unwillingness of facing the fact that Islam is the problem will be our downfall.
-brickboy240
While your point is certainly true & I'm in agreement, the bigger picture is failing to hold our elected officials to follow ROL & accountability. The checks & balances that WERE put into place have been hijacked & are not working.
Oh I have a clue...don't kid yourself!
I just told you what my Swedish cousins said about those folks in Sweden and what they are doing. Same thing is going on here, except the majority is Latino/black but some agitators are Muslim immigrants....look at 9-11 and Boston.
Once again...the problem is Muslims.
I mentioned this before and got a shitload of "but not all Muslims are like this" and other Muslim toe-sucking nonsense. Surrre....keep telling yourselves that when they cleaver your friggin head.
And then other morons will blabber on about, "well....look at what the Christians did in the crusades and inquisition...blah...blah." Nice...but I don't see Catholics or Methodists taking meat cleavers to soldiers or buying pressure cookers. Keep deluding yourselves...
In America, we will see the same kinds of attacks once the non-white immigrants realize that our govt. will also treat them with kid gloves and the native Anglos won't do shit to them.
Look at England and Europe...that is us in 2-5 years....tops.
-brickboy240
And all White Christians are bigots?
That's about how ****ing stupid you sound.
No, you haven't got much of a clue.
I have not seen many Muslim Congress persons in the USA, we are tied at the hip with Zionist Israel and the House of Windsor (the UK) and AFL-CIO, SPLC isn't Muslim nor are the gun grabbers nor are the Fed Reserve governors. I don't see Muslims complaining about Christian symbology anywhere in the US. The UN isn't Muslim. Neither is NATO. Pick any major non-government organization that is prominently anti-American and it won't be headed by Muslims. Don't like GMO foods? Then go research the Board of Directors of Monsanto. I'll bet you you won't find one Muslim last name. Don't like our foreign policy? Look for the Muslim. Don't like our immigration policy? Look or the Muslims. Don't like the Health Care situation? Look for the Muslims. Airline industry ticket prices? You got it, bro. Followers of Islam. I find it too hot and there are too many odd tornadoes: Muslims. Too easy. Damned SEC dominating college football. Gotta be the Muslims, man! And who is buying up all the damned ammo and PMAGs? The damned Syrian gov't. Saw it on Al Jazeera.
That's about how ignorant your rants are.
As far as terrorist incidents you'd be surprised at the numbers compiled from FBI reports, too.
So I'd say the only "toe sucker" would be the mirror in your bathroom, brother. Look BEYOND THE OBVIOUS. It's staring you in the face.
Some of us don't fear shadows - even if those shadows are created by persons and organizations sworn to protect us. Maybe YOU fear them do you hate them. Fear isn't infectious to all. Well, at least not me. While you wet your pants at thought of Ali Baba and his 40 Thieves I will continue to watch what's going on in the halls of Congress and the White House - you know, the people who do shit in your name then piss down your back telling you "they hate us because of our (rapidly diminishing) freedoms." The enemies of the Republic lie WITHIN our borders and always have. Just as our Founders told us - but people don't read much of anything for the past 50 years so I'm not surprised.
I get that you do not get it. Fine.
I also get that you believe that you do. That's fine, too.
Let the dead bury the dead.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Are either of you two capable of uttering complete and coherent thoughts? Why is it always veiled innuendo with you two?
I dare either one of you to present a coherent explanation of Hegel's philosophy without consulting Wikipedia, and then explain how it applies to the current topic of discussion. You should clearly and coherently explain the motivations of each actor in light of Hegel's philosophy, as well as explain the mechanisms by which these actors move to achieve their goals. You've got it all figured out, so this should be easy for you two. Right?
Do you really have any idea what you're talking about? Or will you just respond with "keep your head in the sand" or "you're not switched on to it dawg" or some such nonsense?
Why bother? You can certainly do the work I've done. I got it by myself because I was interested and gar a damn. Apparently, you are not (despite what u may claim) or you'd get off your ass and start digging into things to try to find out. Now wouldn't that be a sight to see: Americans giving a damn and using their MINDS to figure out what's going on.
I could type a book here and you'd roll your eyes, grit your teeth, exclaim "tin foil!" and move along. At least that's what you HAVE been doing. But there is always tomorrow.
You assume (and truly make an ass of yourself in the process) I am not well read and that's your prerogative. I can assure you that you are very much incorrect though trying to "prove" things to you that you have inadequate background to debate is rather worthless for both of us.
No hurt, no foul. Seek and you shall find and all that germane stuff. Stop researching firearms and investigate things that can save the nation from entities you're not even aware of - much less the treaties, technologies, etc., that have been laid out to destroy us as a nation. As it is you're tens years too late and $10 million short as you wait for your favorite talking head who happens to appeal to your party paradigm tell you this and so.
Truly, as you were.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Why bother? You can certainly so the work I've done. I got it by myself because I was interested. Apparently you are not or you'd get off your ass and find out.
Now wouldn't that be a sight to see: Americans giving a damn and using their MINDS to figure out what's going on.
I could type a book here and you'd roll your eyes, grit your teeth, exclaim "tin foil!" and move along. At least that's what you HAVE been doing. There is always tomorrow.
You assume I am not well read and that's your prerogative. I can assure you that you are very much incorrect though trying to "prove" things to you that you have inadequate background to debate is rather worthless for both of us.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Exactly the response I expected -- not a shred of actual explanation about what you meant and completely vacuous of content. When you're asked to back up your bullshit you just tell people they're ignorant. Same old shit you and VD6A always do.
Just admit that you have no idea what you're talking about and simply throw around words and concepts about which you haven't got the slightest clue. Maybe you can fool some people but I know better.
YOU THREE GENTLEMEN (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE):
PLEASE ACT LIKE ADULTS AND LEAVE THE INSULTS OUT OF THE THREAD. IT'S FINE TO DISAGREE BUT DO IT IN A CIVIL MANNER.
NO FURTHER WARNING WILL BE GIVEN.
Exactly the response I expected -- not a shred of actual explanation about what you meant and completely vacuous of content.
The nice thing about his avatar is that it's bright and catchy. I've learned to skip past anything posted as I disagree with about 100% of the posts. ;)
Exactly the response I expected -- not a shred of actual explanation about what you meant and completely vacuous of content. When you're asked to back up your bullshit you just tell people they're ignorant. Same old shit you and VD6A always do.
Just admit that you have no idea what you're talking about and simply throw around words and concepts about which you haven't got the slightest clue. Maybe you can fool some people but I know better.
I have admitted I won't do a damned thing for your *lazy ass* is all I admitted.
Try to read with comprehension. That's a big part of your problem.
EDIT: Just say "No!" to Intellectual Welfare... Gonna be my new sig line.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Roger that Sam. I haven't said anything in this thread that's outside the norm of regular discourse and debate but I'll tone it down anyway.
Mjolnir, I have a thorough mastery of Hegel's philosophy. Your accusation of laziness is off-base. Quite the opposite. I assure you, whatever you're thinking, I'll understand it. Why not just explain what you were thinking? What could be easier? If you're right I'll say you're right, and if you're wrong I'll disagree.
"Just say no to intellectual welfare" sounds suspiciously like an attempt to justify not backing up any of your extreme and eccentric claims -- especially when you're talking to someone with a thorough education.
How many of you realize that the government officials who lord over these people (and us) know damn well what they are doing? They CREATE the problem to change society to their liking - laws against the drugs they KNOW, AID & ABET into nation, violence and prostitution. The Wahhabists? Look to the City of London, Washington, DC, Tel Aviv and Brussels (NATO HQ). Remember the KLA? I do.
Here they are using the Blacks and Hispanics. I swear most of you haven't a clue as to what is going on as you don't seem to recognize that YOUR gov't has been nurturing violent entities and placing them inside your borders for some time. It's not all blacks: just the Black Nationalist Separatists; its not all Hispanics: just the Hispanic Separatists; its not all Jews: its just the Political Zionists; its not all Muslims: its just the Wahhabbists and Salafists and so on and so on.
When you group ALL of just about anything you err greatly.
I love "diversity" but we cannot have it if there aren't enough well paying jobs for our own. If there were really a surplus of high tech, high paying and solid manufacturing jobs that Americans could not fill then, yes, import highly skilled persons and pay them equivalent wages. If not leave them where they are.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Dear God! How do you sleep at night? If you believe only half of what you post, why the **** are you still here? Do you have a plan to stop all of these things that the .gov is doing?
And all White Christians are bigots?
That's about how ****ing stupid you sound.
No, you haven't got much of a clue.
I have not seen many Muslim Congress persons in the USA, we are tied at the hip with Zionist Israel and the House of Windsor (the UK) and AFL-CIO, SPLC isn't Muslim nor are the gun grabbers nor are the Fed Reserve governors. I don't see Muslims complaining about Christian symbology anywhere in the US. The UN isn't Muslim. Neither is NATO.
Muslims represent 1% of the US population and there are 2 Muslims in Congress (0.4%). Although not perfectly equitable, this is not a significant desparity. How many non-Muslims hold high office in Iran, Afghanistan, or SA?
As for protesting Muslim groups in the US, take a look at CAIR. They've made a career of supporting the absurd and getting plenty of media attention. In fact, they were instrumental in re-writing portions of the FBI training book to make it more "Muslim friendly. I wonder how much pull the Catholic League would have with Hammas?
When it comes to NATO, Turkey is a member and predominantly Muslim nation. Gee, I wonder what would happen if the US or Israel wanted to join the Arab League?
Finally, the UN has never had a problem giving Muslim extremists a platform and microphone to spout their hate.
Bottom line, the modern world is a lot more accommodating of Islam, than Islam is of the modern world.
Dear God! How do you sleep at night? If you believe only half of what you post, why the **** are you still here? Do you have a plan to stop all of these things that the .gov is doing?
I sleep well. Apparently some sleep all the damned day...
Keep on sleeping, brother. A decade late and $10 million short...
"One man with courage makes a majority."
brickboy240
05-23-13, 15:53
Ugh...another one of those "I know everything and you all are just sooo stupid" types.
For a moment...I thought I was back on Glock Talk! LOL
Ok...you are right....WE are the problem...not Muslims.
Nothing to see here...go back to sleep everyone...we are all too stupid to be commenting on anything, apparently.
-brickboy240
Why the West is Best: A Muslim Apostate's Defense of Liberal Democracy
http://www.amazon.com/Why-West-Best-Apostates-Democracy/dp/1594035768
Nomad: From Islam to America: A Personal Journey Through the Clash of Civilizations
http://www.amazon.com/Nomad-America-Personal-Journey-Civilizations/dp/B0048ELEAE/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1369342979&sr=1-4&keywords=ayaan+hirsi+ali
Roger that Sam. I haven't said anything in this thread that's outside the norm of regular discourse and debate but I'll tone it down anyway.
Mjolnir, I have a thorough mastery of Hegel's philosophy. Your accusation of laziness is off-base. Quite the opposite. I assure you, whatever you're thinking, I'll understand it. Why not just explain what you were thinking? What could be easier? If you're right I'll say you're right, and if you're wrong I'll disagree.
"Just say no to intellectual welfare" sounds suspiciously like an attempt to justify not backing up any of your extreme and eccentric claims -- especially when you're talking to someone with a thorough education.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
Moose-Knuckle
05-23-13, 16:52
Don't forget to tie in the riots in Sweden. Muslim shitbags have been attacking police and torching cars and buildings for the past 4 nights there.
The MSM also has a total black out on European gang rapes where these oxygen thieves are viciously attacking white European girls and women.
As shocking as it sounds, the Swedish taxpayers have pay $150,000 per year to house each refugee. Angry Swedes have raised the question if it was worth to invest 3 million dollars per year for these 20 youths involved in the gang rape of the 11-year-old Swedish girl.
http://www.eutimes.net/2011/03/20-refugees-suspected-of-gang-rape-at-stockholm-public-swimming-pool/
In December 2011 a Swedish mother-of-two was subjected to a brutal gang-rape by 12 Afghan immigrants in a refugee camp in Mariannelund. Reports stated "The rape was oral, anal and vaginal sometimes with three rapists inside her at the same time while everybody was cheering and clapping. The gruesome rape marathon lasted for 7 hours.
http://digitaljournal.com/article/346059#ixzz2U9duTJp8
Ten more documented cases of such attacks . . .
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/03/6673-ten-horrifying-stories-of-muslims-gang-raping-white-woman/
brickboy240
05-23-13, 16:55
Didn't I tell you about the Swedes?
I guess some think I just made that shit up.
Americans have a VERY warped view of Sweden and Scandinavia in general.
Ok, maybe not warped...but their vision of what it is like is about 15-20 years old.
-brickboy240
Moose-Knuckle
05-23-13, 16:55
"Troops in London 'advised not to wear their uniforms outside bases'..."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4939124/Woolwich-terror-suspect-revealed-sources-name-man-as-Michael-Adebolajo.html
How typical of leadership, cowering before Islamists. Don't allow people to defend themselves, just ask them to hide who they are and submit to Islamist threats.
How ****ing pathetic, British soldiers cannot even wear their uniform in their own God damn country! Oh how the mighty have fallen . . . :suicide:
2 more people arrested. Man and woman.....
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/23/us-britain-killing-cameron-idUSBRE94L0WU20130523
The MSM also has a total black out on European gang rapes where these oxygen thieves are viciously attacking white European girls and women.
http://www.eutimes.net/2011/03/20-refugees-suspected-of-gang-rape-at-stockholm-public-swimming-pool/
http://digitaljournal.com/article/346059#ixzz2U9duTJp8
Ten more documented cases of such attacks . . .
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/03/6673-ten-horrifying-stories-of-muslims-gang-raping-white-woman/
Makes my blood boil.
Moose-Knuckle
05-23-13, 17:05
Didn't I tell you about the Swedes?
I guess some think I just made that shit up.
Americans have a VERY warped view of Sweden and Scandinavia in general.
Ok, maybe not warped...but their vision of what it is like is about 15-20 years old.
-brickboy240
I read . . . A LOT. And have been following this shit for a while. It makes me happy that ammo shelves are bare here for a myriad of reasons.
Though you and Mjolnir may not agree, ALL of the open door “immigration” express lanes of oxygen thieves from third world shit holes into Western countries, disarming citizens, dumbing down education, deindustrialization, so on and so forth (i.e. social engineering) has all been orchestrated to establish globalism. One has to eat an elephant one bite at a time . . .
Belmont31R
05-23-13, 17:07
The West is committing suicide by importing the 3rd world wholesale. These riots, rapes, murders, petty crimes, drugs, ect are just a taste of what's to come.
VooDoo6Actual
05-23-13, 17:09
Woolwich victim identified as drummer, machine gunner Lee Rigby
http://rt.com/news/woolwich-soldier-identified-rigby-702/
brickboy240
05-23-13, 17:10
How many more burning cars and bloody meat cleavers do we need to see before we recognize these people are a problem?
Maybe not all of them...but enough to be dangerous and worthy of keeping an eye on them.
You have no idea how nice Sweden was before the surge of immigrants came on.
I also know one of those killed at Ft. Hood.
These things tend to shape your world view and make you scoff at the "but not all Muslims are bad" apologists.
-brickboy240
Moose-Knuckle
05-23-13, 17:10
Makes my blood boil.
As does mine . . .
This is why there is such a black out on these attacks though if the skin color/nationality was reversed we would never hear the end of it. Also why they want to disarm all of us because they know eventually a spark will ignite and once it is fully involved there will be no stopping it.
"Troops in London 'advised not to wear their uniforms outside bases'..."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4939124/Woolwich-terror-suspect-revealed-sources-name-man-as-Michael-Adebolajo.html
How typical of leadership, cowering before Islamists. Don't allow people to defend themselves, just ask them to hide who they are and submit to Islamist threats.
I think you need to consider the context. The advice was to basically provide cover in a dynamic situation.
Troops in London were advised in the immediate aftermath of yesterday’s attack not to wear their uniforms outside their bases
But at Cobra this morning, it was agreed that issuing orders against wearing military uniforms in public would not be the right response to the outrage
I'm pretty sure that was a "be advised that those in uniform may be targets at the moment" .
Will there be retaliation for the 2 shitbirds who got shot by the Brits? Escalation on their part could lead to severe repercussions, I hope.
One dude lost a thumb when he tried to shoot the revolver at the cops. :)
ForTehNguyen
05-23-13, 17:34
entire situation reeks of sheep. Must be nice being a criminal in UK where they feel comfortable with hanging around and doing an actual interview after killing someone. Then you have people walking by like nothing happened, people taking pictures and video, people trying to "talk the guy down" while he still has the weapons in his hand. They are lucky they didnt get sliced up too while it took 20 min for armed police to show up and unarmed police willing to do nothing.
They wouldve gotten put down so damn fast here. Just goes to show the stark differences in cultures and mentality
davidjinks
05-23-13, 17:42
Why do you always have to come out and bird dog people? You're a childish act of an Internet man.
None of the guys you have a hard on for bring anything to you, so why go and attack every word they have to say?
You don't agree with it, cool. Move the **** on. Yet you constantly go out of your way to tear their words apart and cast stones in their direction when they speak their thoughts.
Most of the time you're too much of a coward to even keep your posts up and able to read. You quickly go in and delete them and add a "Nevermind". I have yet to see these guys go out of their way and openly attack the words you type/speak and yet you don't give them the same respect.
You're an Internet punk.
Are either of you two capable of uttering complete and coherent thoughts? Why is it always veiled innuendo with you two?
I dare either one of you to present a coherent explanation of Hegel's philosophy without consulting Wikipedia, and then explain how it applies to the current topic of discussion. You should clearly and coherently explain the motivations of each actor in light of Hegel's philosophy, as well as explain the mechanisms by which these actors move to achieve their goals. You've got it all figured out, so this should be easy for you two. Right?
Do you really have any idea what you're talking about? Or will you just respond with "keep your head in the sand" or "you're not switched on to it dawg" or some such nonsense?
THIS ONE IS OVER, FINISHED, FINITO. FROM NOW ON WHEN PEOPLE START THEIR LITTLE PERSONAL ATTACKS THEY ARE GOING AWAY. THIS SHIT IS GETTING OLD AND IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME USUAL SUSPECTS.
Army Chief
05-23-13, 18:18
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=1652467#post1652467
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