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Straight Shooter
05-22-13, 22:56
Our Governor Bentley has signed SB286 into law.
This was a much needed redesign, and addition to, Alabama's somewhat confusing gun laws.
You can go to NRA's page and look up the details, but off the top of my head it does the following, all effective 1August2013:
1. Parking Lot Bill...allows HCP holders to carry weapons in their vehicles while on company property,
2. Goes from MAY issue to SHALL issue.
3. Puts ALL matters of gun control into State control...not local.
4.Permits go from 1 to 5 years, at permit holders discretion.
5.Extends Castle doctrine to place of business.
6. Requires sheriffs to use the NICS system
7. ALL valid out of state permits now recognized.
This bill met vehement opposition by the few left wing Demorats in Alabama's House & Senate. Also by the Sheriff's Assc. at first. Went back & forth between Senate & House a couple times..but finally passed. I say HOORAH for Alabama!!!
VooDoo6Actual
05-22-13, 23:01
another step in right direction.
Thx for the post
.46caliber
05-22-13, 23:01
Good news. We've enjoyed most of those now in MO for awhile and some new ones just past the legislature. I'm pleased to see some states forging ahead for the protection and strengthening of the 2A. The Fed may be FUBAR but some states are responding well. Good on you People of AL.
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You would think one of the more pro-gun states would've been one of the first to expand gun rights.
The Sherrifs' Association opposed this due to the legislation first not requiring a CCW permit to carry loaded weapons in vehicles. They started referring to it as the "road rage bill." They finally agreed to the bill after the CCW provision was added.
The Business Council of Alabama and many businesses still oppose it (surprise) even though they get immunity from any shootings. They will be the first to cry fowl when the first person brings a gun to work legally or illegally and shoots somebody. Until the presence of more guns actually make the workplace safer or somebody prevents a shooting then they will hail it as the best thing ever. They make it sound like people with legal CCW permits are going to start shooting up the places or disgruntled employees are going to suddenly start going postal. Criminals already bring their guns anyway.
davidjinks
05-23-13, 08:17
Excellent news for ya'll down there!
At least you didn't post this in an "angry" manner. (Sarcasm :))
Our Governor Bentley has signed SB286 into law.
This was a much needed redesign, and addition to, Alabama's somewhat confusing gun laws.
You can go to NRA's page and look up the details, but off the top of my head it does the following, all effective 1August2013:
1. Parking Lot Bill...allows HCP holders to carry weapons in their vehicles while on company property,
2. Goes from MAY issue to SHALL issue.
3. Puts ALL matters of gun control into State control...not local.
4.Permits go from 1 to 5 years, at permit holders discretion.
5.Extends Castle doctrine to place of business.
6. Requires sheriffs to use the NICS system
7. ALL valid out of state permits now recognized.
This bill met vehement opposition by the few left wing Demorats in Alabama's House & Senate. Also by the Sheriff's Assc. at first. Went back & forth between Senate & House a couple times..but finally passed. I say HOORAH for Alabama!!!
Good for Alabama. TN has passed similar legislation. The South still believes in individual responsiblity.
While I 100% support the law, as an private employer I also see the conundrum for the employer. Regardless of the law, if an employee shoots another employee on my property, I (and my insurance carrier) will be enjoined in whatever court battle ensues, as the one with the most money is ALWAYS a party. I am charged with the safety of my employees; and it can be debated that having too many people who may be unqualified or too immature to be carrying on my premises (besides ME of course) increases my liability should someone make a huge mistake.
Am I armed at work? You bet your ass I am. Are my employees? Some CCW holders probably are (I'm specifically NOT asking); but are some also who shouldn't be? Maybe. The hard part is finding balance because all it takes is one dumbass to upset the entire applecart.
Eurodriver
05-23-13, 11:14
The hard part is finding balance because all it takes is one dumbass to upset the entire applecart.
...you mean like a dumbass who would carry a gun into your business illegally anyway?
Straight Shooter
05-23-13, 11:27
davidjinks-
Apparently EVERY time I post, Im angry, so here ya go.:mad::mad::rolleyes:
Yeah, I too was a little PISSED OFF at how much longer it took to pass. The few libs down here...all DEMORATS of course, bitched & moaned about it.
Hey skydiver....being from TN myself, does the TN parking lot bill allow business's to opt out?
...you mean like a dumbass who would carry a gun into your business illegally anyway?
A totally different category of liablity if a criminal does something on my property vs. an employee.
The businesses here have immunity from shootings so I assume that would mean any liability suits brought against them would be tossed out, right?
This is great. Does AL allow SBRs now too?
steyrman13
05-23-13, 16:05
This is great. Does AL allow SBRs now too?
yep, since 2010 I believe
http://www.submachinegun.net/sbsconr.htm
Still cannot hunt with suppressors though or NVG or IR
Alpha Sierra
05-23-13, 16:16
...you mean like a dumbass who would carry a gun into your business illegally anyway?
Those who always want to carve out a little gun-free zone exemption for themselves NEVER have an answer to this.
Never.
Our Governor Bentley has signed SB286 into law.
This was a much needed redesign, and addition to, Alabama's somewhat confusing gun laws.
You can go to NRA's page and look up the details, but off the top of my head it does the following, all effective 1August2013:
1. Parking Lot Bill...allows HCP holders to carry weapons in their vehicles while on company property,
2. Goes from MAY issue to SHALL issue.
3. Puts ALL matters of gun control into State control...not local.
4.Permits go from 1 to 5 years, at permit holders discretion.
5.Extends Castle doctrine to place of business.
6. Requires sheriffs to use the NICS system
7. ALL valid out of state permits now recognized.
This bill met vehement opposition by the few left wing Demorats in Alabama's House & Senate. Also by the Sheriff's Assc. at first. Went back & forth between Senate & House a couple times..but finally passed. I say HOORAH for Alabama!!!
Alabama was a may issue state all this time??! :eek:
...you mean like a dumbass who would carry a gun into your business illegally anyway?
They need to adopt Florida's concealed carry laws. It is not illegal to carry concealed in a place of business that posts a "no CCW" sign.
steyrman13
05-23-13, 18:41
They need to adopt Florida's concealed carry laws. It is not illegal to carry concealed in a place of business that posts a "no CCW" sign.
Tennessee it is prohibited from carrying in a private business that states no CC, but I am 99% sure that Ala it is perfectly legal to carry in a business where such a sign is displayed. The sign is meaningless in AL....please correct me if I am wrong
Even more exciting is that I'm pretty sure this will also happen here tomorrow or the next day. Give it a week tops and we're in, you heard it here first.
...Damn alarm clock....
.46caliber
05-23-13, 19:26
Tennessee it is prohibited from carrying in a private business that states no CC, but I am 99% sure that Ala it is perfectly legal to carry in a business where such a sign is displayed. The sign is meaningless in AL....please correct me if I am wrong
That's how things work in MO. The proprietor can ask you to leave and if you don't comply the police can escort you out since a proprietor has a right to refuse service. At that point no law has been broken. At least that's the way it was when I took the class in 2006 or 2007
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