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rob_s
04-01-08, 08:01
Travis Haley (http://youtube.com/watch?v=3b6PinhhVww) and Eric Torres of SDI Tactical (http://www.sditactical.com/) conducted a 3-day "Mindset Handgun" class at the Southern Exposure training facility (http://www.southernexposuretraining.com/) outside of Lakeland Florida beginning on Saturday, 29 March 2008 and ending on Monday, 31 March 2008. The class included 2 hours of reduced/no light training on TD2. We were joined on TD3 by Chris Costa (http://youtube.com/watch?v=cAxWaGRic1I), Director of Magpul Training Division (http://www.magpul.com/training/training.html).

The class was made up entirely of civilian shooters. There was one LEO, and a few prior service military of various backgrounds. Virtually all of the students have had multiple classes from many varied instructors. My own background includes classes from Randy Cain, Bill Jeans, and Pat Rogers. Many of the students have been training for many more years and with many more instructors than I have. In other words, this was a bunch that knows the basics, knows how to shoot, and has a good base of knowledge.

Three terms emerged over the course of the 3 days that help to summarize SDI's methodology; "efficiency", "fundamentals", and "master your weapon". Travis and Eric make a point of reinforcing efficiency of movement. For example, if you have to add inefficient movements to your shooting, reloads, draw, etc. due to gear issues then you need to address your gear to resolve the issue.

TD1 began with a 1-hour lecture/Power Point block. When I first heard about this I was somewhat skeptical, thinking my usual "awe man, I just want to get to the range". 10 minutes into the presentation, however, I began to appreciate it. Travis went over many aspects of the "fighting" or "combat" mindset, and SDI's take on how the human body's physical limitations and reactions to stress can limit your ability to fight and how we can use those issues to our advantage.

After the lecture block, we all moved out to the range and the shooting began. SDI has a take that is, at least in my experience, somewhat different than other classes. They do not generally teach "steps". Whether the draw stroke, turning 90 degrees, turning 180 degrees, performing a reload, etc. We began with the draw, and Travis and Eric discussed their take on the draw stroke. We made a few repetitions of same. The rest of TD1 was fast-paced and included reloads (tactical and speed), malfunctions, and positions.

I really appreciated SDI's take on malfunctions which was based on a diagnostic immediate/remedial action. Rather than rely on the "tap-rack-bang", they suggest that the shooter take a split second to rotate the barrel up 10 degrees and diagnose the problem, then initiate the correct immediate/remedial action. Failure to go into battery? smack the rear of the slide. Failure to feed? Tap, rack, bang. Stovepipe? Sweep the top of the slide. Doublefeed? Lock the slide, strip the mag, rackrackrack, insert new mag and drop the slide. I appreciated their confidence and respect in the group to know that we are all capable of identifying the malfunction and initiating the appropriate correction. This goes to the "master your weapon" mentality and was borne out to be extremely effective over the 3 days as many 1911 shooters got to experience these malfunctions repeatedly during other drills.

Positions included the usual standing, squat, kneeling, prone, etc. and also included rollover right and rollover left, which we used extensively as the course went on. Travis and Eric really pushed the efficiency issue here, as well as stressing the ability to not only quickly get into, but out of, these positions.

We ended TD1 with a man-on-man drill that summarized everything we learned that day, to include the draw, positions, reloads, and clearing a doublefeed. The drill included paper and steel targets and was a great way to wrap up the day.

TD2 was all about moving. Moving forward, moving backward, turning 90 degrees, turning 180 degrees, etc. And all while incorporating the skills learned on TD1. TD2 also ended with a night/lowlight shoot and Eric and Travis demonstrated a variety of methods of utilizing a hand-held light that we all got to try out, then we selected which one worked for us and began incorporating all of the moving/turning lessons we had learned earlier in the day, as well as performing speed- and tactical-reloads with the light in your hand.

TD3 stepped things up by beginning with drawing from concealment, and discussions of gear selection as pertains to same as well as how said gear selection affects your efficiency, fundamentals, and weapon mastery. From there we moved into drills involving engaging threats while seated and use of cover. The day ended with a block on vehicle techniques (not tactics) and we ran a drill that involved shooting from inside of and exiting from a real vehicle, as well as engaging targets from around the vehicle. This drill was especially enlightening to see how we all acted under the stress of time, operating in and around an unfamiliar vehicle, with various loud distracting sounds, and with the instructors yelling at us to "move" and "get down" and "reload". I particularly enjoyed the added stress on this drill.

Overall I had a fantastic time, as I always do at Southern Exposure, and truly enjoyed SDI's instruction under Travis, Eric, and Chris. They each offered a slightly different, yet cohesive, perspective to combat handgun shooting. I learned things that I can apply to my daily carry, my self-defense training, and my competition shooting. We are all looking forward to having them back for a "Mindset Carbine" class in the future.

Thanks again to Travis, Eric, and Chris, as well as the tireless efforts of Irv Lehman in hosting and organizing these classes at Southern Exposure.

Hawkeye
04-01-08, 08:55
Nice review Rob.

Jay Cunningham
04-01-08, 08:56
Very good AAR, Rob. Travis is on my short list to train with sometime. Did you pick up anything specifically that makes you think you will change what you have been doing? In other words, did you have a specific "lightbulb moment"?

rob_s
04-01-08, 09:07
There were several things that I picked up.

The first, for me, was getting away from "steps" to everything. Whether it be drawing, loading, turning, or whatever, at a certain point you can decide that you are a big-boy and do what works best for you. I liked being treated like an adult and not being told how to turn around (other than the "fundamentals" of things like looking with your head first).

I've also been a Weaver shooter, or modified Weaver, for a long time. Spending 3 days at least attempting an isosceles stance was good exposure. Travis also covered the physiology of why they teach and use the isosceles stance and that was enlightening.

Both of these are really just parts of the "efficiency" that Travis, Eric, and Chris repeated over and over again. Efficiency of motion is something that I've been in to for years, even in activities outside of shooting. It was good to get that reinforced for three days.

I don't think there was so much of a "lightbulb" moment for me in this class. All three of the instructors just did a great job of building, building, building on the previous instruction. It all started with the lecture, and the same themes just kept appearing and getting reinforced over the three days. If anything, I would say that the lightbulb was on a dimmer-switch, and started out at just a glimmer but kept getting brighter over the 3 days. :D

Jay Cunningham
04-01-08, 10:35
There were several things that I picked up.

The first, for me, was getting away from "steps" to everything. Whether it be drawing, loading, turning, or whatever, at a certain point you can decide that you are a big-boy and do what works best for you. I liked being treated like an adult and not being told how to turn around (other than the "fundamentals" of things like looking with your head first).

I've also been a Weaver shooter, or modified Weaver, for a long time. Spending 3 days at least attempting an isosceles stance was good exposure. Travis also covered the physiology of why they teach and use the isosceles stance and that was enlightening.

Both of these are really just parts of the "efficiency" that Travis, Eric, and Chris repeated over and over again. Efficiency of motion is something that I've been in to for years, even in activities outside of shooting. It was good to get that reinforced for three days.

I don't think there was so much of a "lightbulb" moment for me in this class. All three of the instructors just did a great job of building, building, building on the previous instruction. It all started with the lecture, and the same themes just kept appearing and getting reinforced over the three days. If anything, I would say that the lightbulb was on a dimmer-switch, and started out at just a glimmer but kept getting brighter over the 3 days. :D

Good stuff!

I'm still trying to get all the nuances of iso down after being initially trained in Weaver/Gunsite doctrine... Weaver certainly is not the ultimate evil but it does have certain inherent limitations that have been repeatedly demonstrated to me in contrast to iso.

TOrrock
04-01-08, 11:19
Great AAR.I've had the pleasure of shooting with Travis in IDPA and he definitely knows his stuff.

A guy that's been there and done it.

p7fl
04-01-08, 13:53
Some thoughts to add to Robs AAR:

It was a Big Picture and Small Picture class.
The first hour presentation by Travis set the goals and it was up to the shooter to fit and work the specific exercise into accomplishing those goals.
I am not going to review the specifics but will offer a few thoughts.
Do not panic when Travis and Eric don’t hand you pasters after you have fired a few shots. Do everything their way for 3 days and don’t be scared of failing, these guys are not judgmental nor are you going to impress them.
I will be making 3 very definite changes in my fundamentals based on what I learned in those 3 days.
I have already made the mental changes that form the core of the class.
Last, a big thank you to H and Gecko, Irv, Travis, Chris and Eric, I was actually more tired from laughing for 3 days than from shooting.
Thanks again….. and, I will be back.
Jon

Eric Torres
04-03-08, 17:51
It was our pleasure to train you guys.
We stress the mindset portion by concentrating on training: efficiency, mastering the weapon, performing under stress, moving in every direction, problem solving, and maintaining our weapons functioning as all are part of winning the fight.
Plenty of Glocks and the sole Sig in the class also had actual, reoccurring malfunctions. The malfunction instruction was put to good use. All things mechanical will eventually fail.
I want to thank everyone who attended the class. It was a pleasure imparting our knowledge and experience to a receptive crowd. Thank you and especially Irv Lehman and his beautiful wife for your warm hospitality.
More Later.
Eric

SIMPLYDYNAMIC
04-08-08, 19:09
Great trip to FL!
A big thanks to all the shooters and especially Irv and his wife Watfa for their unbelievable hospitality!
The class was super squared away and taking a group of people like to and excelling is an easy thing to do. Not once did we have to worry about safety issues or shooters that couldn’t get their tongues off the window (as Irv would say)

A lot of shooters seemed skeptical about the mindset portion of the title and really made them think hard about what they might encounter in the class… well the purpose was just that, to make people think, I hope the PowerPoint lecture portion of the class opened some minds to think a little differently or to focus even harder on daily life issues. I hope all could take something away from my hard learned experiences so they may hopefully never find themselves in the same place as I, but Like I told the class… I hope to God no one ever sees “that day” as have I, but when you do…you better be ready.

To carry a firearm into our daily life is a great responsibility… we not only need to be the masters of our weapons but need to also be the masters of our minds.

I think you all know by now that we are not absolute instructors… We believe in the combination of the most efficient and effective ways to complete a task under stress. We deliver training techniques to the student to let them prove to themselves the best fundamental, technique, or tactic to use. Some may say “I like to do it this way because it’s the most comfortable or it feels easy to me” when they soon find out under even the most slight amount of stress (or intuitive/instinctive shooting) that those “easy ways” very quickly change.

Continue to climb the ladder of excellence…it never stops in the shooting world, every day you should find yourself on the next rung. The only way to do that is to force yourself to be CONSISTANT and minimize excessive waste movements in your fundamentals and techniques. 1000 different variations done is 1000 repetitions lost.

We are putting Southern Exposure Training on the top of our lists.

S/F
Travis Haley

Also Thanks to Mike Llyod for the great pics below!


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04-08-08, 19:11
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Mike729
04-15-08, 19:19
Rob, thank for the excellent AAR (as always). It will definitely serve as a good reference/refresher to re-read.

It was indeed a fun and rewarding 3 way weekend.

I consider Travis & Eric friends, and feel honored to be able to call them that, but just as important, I have a lot of respect for them as instructors and Industry Professionals. Last but not least, I thank them for their continuing service to our Country.

The class was a tremendous learning experience, especially they way the instructors (Travis, Eric & Chris Costa, who joined us for a portion of the class) built on the different drills and skills, and then "stacked" them together to increase our level of, proficiency and confidence, not to mention efficiency, which was the cornerstone of their instruction.

Efficiency of movement for everything you do, and that applies, as I found out, both physically and mentally. How fast and efficiently the mind moves is just as important as how the body does. In my case, I had picked a platform I had not practiced enough with since the last class with the same gun, and that DS/SA transition was enough to slow me down by "over-worrying" about it, which caused me to lose efficiency in other areas. Just my personal experience, one of the many valuable lessons I took from the class.

Looking forward to the next one down Florida way :cool:

Mike

Gentle Ben
04-24-08, 15:22
Great writeup, Rob. Is that a Glock in your hand? For some reason I thought you were a 1911 kind of guy.

rob_s
04-24-08, 15:35
I am a 1911 guy, hence I shot horribly at the class.

I'm trying to switch back to the Glock for a variety of reasons, but am not sure I have the time to devote to re-training myself to do so.

Gentle Ben
04-24-08, 15:44
When it comes to Glocks and 1911s, I swing both ways. Makes me all confused and awkward in mixed company.

The Archangel
04-24-08, 20:15
Looks like a very good class. Congrats Travis on your company.