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this past weekend at a local gunshow i bought a model A. after reading a lot of owner reviews i am wondering if some of you might post the purchase date and the serial number range. mine is 600xx. i think it would be interesting to get an idea of what sequence of numbers is out there.
DesertWarrior13
04-05-08, 14:48
15 T Feb 08 65xxx
Mar 19, 2008 and sn# 71xxx
thanks guys. keep them coming.
dwhitehorne
04-06-08, 08:09
summer 2006 can't remember exact date SW07210. David
the iceman
04-06-08, 22:40
March 2008
SW632XX
Aristogeiton
04-07-08, 09:42
March 06 005XX
Bought March 2008 S&W 15T SW67000
P-Mags work well, no problems to report
Came without rail covers, S&W sent some for free.
Love my S&W 15T :)
15 T Feb 08 65xxx
March 2008 15T SW684XX
Bought March 2008 S&W 15T SW67000
Nov/Dec 07, 15T SW61xxx
All you guys that bought 15Ts, and not everyone said what they bought, who's T came with the newer pinned steel gas block vs the original aluminium gas block that was set screws only? It would be nice to have a general idea of the serial number when the new gas block started. Thanks!
MP15A bought 4-5-08
high 58XXX- Must have sat there for awhile
Pmags work great
Patrick
Liquid Rhino
04-10-08, 10:16
Sept/Oct 07 - 15T - SW60xxx
M&PT
FEB07
SW100XX
It just went back to S&W to its final resting place as I made them buy it back.
All you guys that bought 15Ts, and not everyone said what they bought, who's T came with the newer pinned steel gas block vs the original aluminium gas block that was set screws only? It would be nice to have a general idea of the serial number when the new gas block started. Thanks!
Mine had the properly staked gas key, works with pmags and have had zero problems so far also has the newer Troy front sight that is different than the ones in ads but sides fan up and out (not sure what called)
March 2008
15T SW684XX
Robb Jensen
04-10-08, 14:55
We have a new S&W M&P15T with steel gas block with 1 taper pin and 2 set screws in stock.
s/n SW 743XX
AR15AK47USER
04-11-08, 00:31
M&P 15T serial 708XX, bought Mar 29.
Purchased M&P15T on April 11, 2008
Serial #SW714XX
I contacted S&W and talked to Paul, he informed me that the rifle was assembled/manufactured late Feb. 2008. He could not tell me where it was sent to...? But, when I asked him the following questions I got some answers.
The rifle does not have the writing M&P15T, but instead just says M&P15 on the lower assembly above the mag.
He informed me that when they first started the rifles the indicated the differences by placing the letter A,T,OR,X, etc. on the rifles. Now that they have so many types in production that with them all using the the exact same uppers,and lowers that they no longer (for production line reasons) tag the letters after the M&P15. Pleae any insight on this would be nice to hear from you all.
Also, there were no rail covers for the Troy 10" rail.
His response was there should have been, let me find out what may have happened. He returned explaining that they were out of stock and that is why it shipped without them. Although, he placed an order (free of charge for four and will be shipping them out to me. :)
I did indicate that the front sight is indeed the new Troy M4 style sight.
He told me all new rifles should have this as the front flip up sight.
Pmag problem has been fixed.
(I will test this once I get a Pmag.)
I have not been able to check the parts to see if it is indeed a steel gas block, pinned and staked.
Also, I have not check to see the manufacture of the bolt, but I'm hoping for all sakes that it is a LMT BCG.
(Any thoughts, responses would be greatly appreciated.) Also, if anyone has pictures of their new M&P15T with serial #'s starting around 70XXX-74XXX I would love to see them to compare.
Thanks
Purchased M&P15T on April 11, 2008
Serial #SW714XX
I contacted S&W and talked to Paul, he informed me that the rifle was assembled/manufactured late Feb. 2008. He could not tell me where it was sent to...? But, when I asked him the following questions I got some answers.
The rifle does not have the writing M&P15T, but instead just says M&P15 on the lower assembly above the mag.
He informed me that when they first started the rifles the indicated the differences by placing the letter A,T,OR,X, etc. on the rifles. Now that they have so many types in production that with them all using the the exact same uppers,and lowers that they no longer (for production line reasons) tag the letters after the M&P15. Pleae any insight on this would be nice to hear from you all.
Also, there were no rail covers for the Troy 10" rail.
His response was there should have been, let me find out what may have happened. He returned explaining that they were out of stock and that is why it shipped without them. Although, he placed an order (free of charge for four and will be shipping them out to me. :)
I did indicate that the front sight is indeed the new Troy M4 style sight.
He told me all new rifles should have this as the front flip up sight.
Pmag problem has been fixed.
(I will test this once I get a Pmag.)
I have not been able to check the parts to see if it is indeed a steel gas block, pinned and staked.
Also, I have not check to see the manufacture of the bolt, but I'm hoping for all sakes that it is a LMT BCG.
(Any thoughts, responses would be greatly appreciated.) Also, if anyone has pictures of their new M&P15T with serial #'s starting around 70XXX-74XXX I would love to see them to compare.
Thanks
You will have the LMT BCG. Take the bottom rail off and take some pics and post them and we can tell you what type of GB you have. Some of the other things arent enough to worry about.
again thanks to all for posting. let`s keep this going. this is getting to be very informative.
jarind, looks like you have some rapport with paul. s n breakdowns re when made. ie, mine just bought sn60093. i see some lower and some higher. i would like to know if mine has been laying around. also all the talk about who put them together, would be nice to clear that up. what do you think. anybody else got questions that need answers ?
these rifles seen to have a good following.
note : p mags fit and drop just fine in mine.
threebanger
04-12-08, 10:15
M&P T purchased Oct. 07' S/N 55xxx. Mine has the aluminum GB/two set screws but I just verified alignment & Loctite'd them @ 35 in. lbs. I do have the LMT BCG & my BIUS are the older ones (my rear doesn't have the coin slot for windage & front is just twist up AK style)
I seem to be having trouble getting someone on the phone to answer questions about my own M&P15A sn 55XXX. Of course the pressing ones would be if this rifle is of the "newer" ones or the original outsourced ones and the manufactured date (so I can add to this post).
Is there an alternate number other than 1-800-331-0852?
You will have the LMT BCG. Take the bottom rail off and take some pics and post them and we can tell you what type of GB you have. Some of the other things arent enough to worry about.
I'll get in on this too I guess...I'm fairly certain this is the non-pinned aluminum block, can anyone confirm?
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q116/bridoyal/15TGasBlock1.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q116/bridoyal/15GasBlock2.jpg
Robb Jensen
04-12-08, 18:10
I'll get in on this too I guess...I'm fairly certain this is the non-pinned aluminum block, can anyone confirm?
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q116/bridoyal/15TGasBlock1.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q116/bridoyal/15GasBlock2.jpg
You're correct that's the aluminum non-pinned version. I'd replace it with a VLTOR steel gas block and dimple the barrel for the set screws and possibly pin it.
I brought her home today, took some pictures but have to run. Check back after 9pm and I will post some pictures. (BCG,Gas Block, Rifle, etc.)
Got a 15A today. S/N 66XXX
Got a 15A today. S/N 65XXX
You found one - good for you. I am still working on finding mine.
As promised, fill me in or tell me what you guys think.
i bought a 15FT on 4/3 serial is sw 709XX and it has the pinned gas block and i put a compensator on it
It just came to me, I did not receive a sight tool with my rifle. I wonder if Smith & Wesson decided not to send anymore of those nice S&W logo'd sight tools... :mad:
It just came to me, I did not receive a sight tool with my rifle. I wonder if Smith & Wesson decided not to send anymore of those nice S&W logo'd sight tools... :mad:
As far as I know none of them were shipped with sight tools. You can use either a crimped round or a AK front sight elevation tool.
threebanger
04-13-08, 08:55
It just came to me, I did not receive a sight tool with my rifle. I wonder if Smith & Wesson decided not to send anymore of those nice S&W logo'd sight tools... :mad:
call S&W. They should send you a new one. Mine came without rail covers & they sent me covers along with an extra tool for free.
You found one - good for you. I am still working on finding mine.
Yeah...not as good of a price but, at least I have one! :cool:
I got mine in April 2008 and I have a serial no. in the 11,000 range. It must have been on the dealer's shelf for a while as I see many posting 50-60,000 + serial numbers. Mine is the standard M&P-15 type with M4 hand guards and a detachable carry handle. Mine also came with the side swivel sling mount on the FSB, which I see on the web site is no longer available. My FSB is "F" marked, and Magpul PMAGs fit easily.
It seems nobody can say what serial range separates the Stag production from "in house" S&W current production?
Yeah...not as good of a price but, at least I have one! :cool:
Good on 'ya!:)
I got mine in April 2008 and I have a serial no. in the 11,000 range. It must have been on the dealer's shelf for a while as I see many posting 50-60,000 + serial numbers. Mine is the standard M&P-15 type with M4 hand guards and a detachable carry handle. Mine also came with the side swivel sling mount on the FSB, which I see on the web site is no longer available. My FSB is "F" marked, and Magpul PMAGs fit easily.
It seems nobody can say what serial range separates the Stag production from "in house" S&W current production?
mine is one of the newer ones with the pinned gas block and only says m&p 15 not FT and it still has the stag heyhole on the side of the upper and i was told by people at smith that it is a newer one and the serial begins with 709xx
mine is one of the newer ones with the pinned gas block and only says m&p 15 not FT and it still has the stag heyhole on the side of the upper and i was told by people at smith that it is a newer one and the serial begins with 709xx
70xxx and up are definately newer. What is a stag heyhole?
70xxx and up are definately newer. What is a stag heyhole?
its a little keyhole shaped mark on the right side of the upper that stag puts on all of its uppers
Robb Jensen
04-13-08, 15:23
its a little keyhole shaped mark on the right side of the upper that stag puts on all of its uppers
Actually that the Cerro forge marking. Nothing to do with Stag other than Stag is using Cerro forgings.
Actually that the Cerro forge marking. Nothing to do with Stag other than Stag is using Cerro forgings.
yea i was just looking for a picture of the keyhole and came across that and i read on another forum that cerro forge makes them for a few companies stag and smith being two of them
I picked mine up about... 2 weeks ago. I have been working so much I haven't had a chance to really disect it yet.
M&P15T version... mine has the newer style AR post Troy front site. (I kind of want the HK style though...) serial # in the 65xxx range if I remember correctly. Will take pics when I get home tomorrow. I need to call about the rail covers though. I wish it came with a front sling mount of some kind too.
M&P15T version... I wish it came with a front sling mount of some kind too.
Neither the T or X railed handguards come with a QR sling swivel stud female port built in. They should, but they don't. You need a rail mounted port such as:
http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/browse&category=slingmounts_railattachedslingmounts
Neither the T or X railed handguards come with a QR sling swivel stud female port built in. They should, but they don't. You need a rail mounted port such as:
http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/browse&category=slingmounts_railattachedslingmounts
Yea, I have been eye balling that offset one for a few days now... might break down and get it.
Neither the T or X railed handguards come with a QR sling swivel stud female port built in. They should, but they don't. You need a rail mounted port such as:
http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/browse&category=slingmounts_railattachedslingmounts
At least you can decide, based on the sling you want to use, where to mount it...side or bottom. I have buy an adapter if I want to use a 2-point (like the Vickers) on my 15A (mount is on the bottom).
my FT with a comp
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/Staind503/0422081308a.jpg
I managed to get my hands on one the day after it came into the gun shop. It’s an M&P15T with the newer front site. I found it odd that the manual has directions for removal of the bottom hand guard as pushing in a detent pin but mine has a stainless hex screw. I removed it the check the GB and it’s pinned and has two screws going in the bottom. Ran 6 10 round mags through it Sunday and functioned flawlessly. SN# range is 75xxx, has the key hole stamp on the upper.
My M&P15T has the hex screw holding on the bottom rail too.
BTW, if anyone is interested in parting with their half circle H&K style S&W M&P front sight, I am looking for one.
Thanks in advance.
Bought late March 2008. M&P15OR. Serial 75xxx.
Bought a MP15OR serial # SM163XX, have run abt 100 rds through it, had 2 rds fte in the first 40 (.223). No problems after that. Haven't shot any 5.56 through it yet but have abt 600 rds on hand. My first black rifle and I've got the bug.
My "X" S# SM19XXX was made Feb 09 in the Smith shop according to the man at Smith that replied to my email.
M&P15A April 14, 2009 # SM30XXX
theorangecat
04-29-09, 19:19
Plain vanilla M&P15 purchased 4/18/09, #SM32XXXX.
(Nice weapon aside from a fairly loose upper/lower fit.)
The_War_Wagon
04-29-09, 23:24
M&P15T - I bought it used off my college wingman, but he bought it NEW in the spring of '07 (April, thereabouts) - #527XX.
Here's a couple of REALLY crappy pics I snapped quickly (trying to hold the rifle steady with one hand, and the camera with the other!) a few moments ago, of the gas block;
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/The_War_Wagon/100_4597.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/The_War_Wagon/100_4598.jpg
Definitely the older, NON-ferrous style, as my son's Thomas the TACTICAL Tank Engine magnet will attest (Hey - it was on my office floor - I GRABBED it! :p). Not staked, but at least TIGHT!
My new Revision 'M' (made this month no less!) PMags just arrived today, and THEY fit in this M&P. My older 20 round PMags fit, but my older 30 round PMags do NOT! Hope that helps!
M&P-15 A Purchased in Jan. 09 SW 902xx
Good staking on Gas Key, Ar-15 enhanced carrier, M4 feed ramps, and has no problems with PMags. Not sure about Parkerizing under FSB. FSB is " F " marked. Castle nut staking could be a little better, but I can tackle that. Had about 1200 rounds of various ammo, Winchester white box .223 and 5.56, Sellier and Bellot m193, and some m855 with no problems. Here are a few crappy pics before the batteries went down on cam.
ztf HITMAN
05-01-09, 14:00
15A bought September 07...sn 57xxx. Had to modify PMags to fit into magwell... No Side sling mount on FSB. Decent staking on gas key.
15a bought nov. 08....serial #999xx
Purchased a 15T in May 09. SN SM 33xxx. Did not come with the plastic rail covers shown in their advertisements, just three flimsy rubber wrap arounds :confused:. I'll be giving them a call about that. Other than that I'm happy with it so far and plan to shoot it soon.
Edit: Called the customer service line. Other than the guy answering the phone being less than friendly, they took care of me and will be sending out the plastic rails.
jaybird210
05-07-09, 15:05
MP15OR bought November 08. S/N SW989**
i just bought my s&w mp15orc (gotta love massachusetts). awaiting a MI rail and BUIS. have aimpoint on now but the weather has sucked and i haven't even had a chance to fire it. if anyone has any suggestions or tips i would be grateful. bought rifle on 5/1/09 SM352XX
M&P 15, Sept. 2008, SW 82xxx
3678barnes
05-08-09, 21:13
M&P 15 VTAC. Purchased March, 2009. #SW41XXX. 1/7 twist. Properly staked gas key and castlenut. Only disappointment is lack of BUIS. Accurate and reliable. Awesome trigger. Mounted a Leupold 4-12AO until I can afford an Aimpoint.
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp184/barnesboys/P4250900.jpg http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp184/barnesboys/GEDC0230.jpg
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp184/barnesboys/GEDC0227.jpg
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp184/barnesboys/Image036.jpg
8 shots at 100yds. 1" target dot.
Carbine will shoot 1" all day. Shooter evidently not as repeatable.
powderkeg45
05-08-09, 23:26
I never inquired as to the born on date of mine, but my serial # is SW 12xxx. Took a few hundred rounds to break in before it started feeding good, but now it runs great. One of these days I need to find someone local to properly stake the gas key.
Just got my M&P15A this week, SM243xx. Almost bought a VTAC but since this is my first AR I wanted to accessorize it with my choice of stuff after I get familiar with it. Tomorrow will be its first range outing.
I never inquired as to the born on date of mine, but my serial # is SW 12xxx. Took a few hundred rounds to break in before it started feeding good, but now it runs great. One of these days I need to find someone local to properly stake the gas key.
If you don't mind shipping out of state, contact our own "Gotm4" as he did my M&P15x and is a great armorer and the turn around time can't be beat.
"Virginia Arms
9760 Center Street
Manassas,Va 20110
703-368-3949
www.virginiaarms.com"
powderkeg45
05-09-09, 09:49
If you don't mind shipping out of state, contact our own "Gotm4" as he did my M&P15x and is a great armorer and the turn around time can't be beat.
"Virginia Arms
9760 Center Street
Manassas,Va 20110
703-368-3949
www.virginiaarms.com"
Thanks for the heads up. I'll give him a shout.
M&P15OR bought in March 2009. S/N 09***. I've put about a hundred and fifty rounds through it with no problems at all.
If you don't mind shipping out of state, contact our own "Gotm4" as he did my M&P15x and is a great armorer and the turn around time can't be beat.
"Virginia Arms
9760 Center Street
Manassas,Va 20110
703-368-3949
www.virginiaarms.com"
I sent my T to him about a year or so ago and had him replace and properly install the gas block. He also staked the gas key while it was there. He also sent a heavier spring along with it. I would highly recommend his workmanship.
M&P 15A
purchased in March 2009
SER # SW 17XXX
I've put about 150 rounds through it w/out any issues
HOWEVER, I did notice the BUIS had come loose and would've fallen off soon.
Does anyone loc-tite the BUIS, or just tighten it down and occasionally check it to make sure it is still tight?
Derek_Connor
05-12-09, 09:52
M&P 15A
purchased in March 2009
SER # SW 17XXX
I've put about 150 rounds through it w/out any issues
HOWEVER, I did notice the BUIS had come loose and would've fallen off soon.
Does anyone loc-tite the BUIS, or just tighten it down and occasionally check it to make sure it is still tight?
Anything with a screw on a weapon should be blue loc-tited down.
Serial Number SM283XX
S&W M&P15OR
I haven't fired one of these since weapons qualification in Germany 1984.
New to the board, bit of a lurker. Alot of good info here!
Jakal
Anything with a screw on a weapon should be blue loc-tited down.
So good it's worth repeating.
The rear BUIS did come loose on my T model. It is thread-locked now!
I put on that offset Danny Defense front sling swivel and I find it just right for my needs. All in all, a great carbine and I'm working on some optics.
But so many choices! Do I get an Aimpoint where the battery lasts until the next ice age? Or a fiber optic Trijicon which doesn't use batteries? The second method leaves me with a glowing dot even after the Iranian nuke detonates high in the sky and causes an electromagnetic pulse that kills everything electronic.
Until the dot stop glowing at night. 12 or 15 years to dimness?
Bart Noir
Never will I buy ANYTHING S&W!
Why?
NRA-ILA FAX ALERT
(800) 392-8683 Fax: (703) 267-3918 groots@nra.org
Special 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030 3/20/2000
SMITH & WESSON BETRAYAL RUNS DEEP
"...The S&W/Clinton agreement dispenses with only a third of the municipal lawsuits, and binds only two federal agencies and two state attorneys general from filing future suits... other state and federal agencies can continue to threaten the industry, including S&W..."
On March 17, British-owned Smith & Wesson, Inc. (S&W), became the first gun maker to run up the white flag of surrender and duck behind the Clinton-Gore lines, blindsiding other members the U.S. firearms industry, and leaving them to stand with lawful gun owners and carry on the fight for the Second Amendment. Of course, there is no Second Amendment in Britain, where subjects are barred from owning handguns and many rifles and shotguns, and S&W's parent company appears poised to sell it to anyone willing to invest in a company fast becoming considered a pariah within its own industry.
S&W says the agreement with the Departments of the Treasury and Housing and Urban Development (HUD) is intended to exempt the company from non-existent federal government suits, and to ensure that it would be dropped as a defendant in a handful of reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities. Yet the agreement dispenses with only a third of the municipal lawsuits, and binds only two federal agencies and two state attorneys general from filing future suits. The remaining city suits are unaffected, and other state and federal agencies can continue to threaten the industry, including S&W.
The day following the announcement, HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo and the mayors of Atlanta, Detroit and Miami moved to support S&W by insuring that their law enforcement agencies would purchase only the company's guns, making the agreement what appears to be an odd mix of extortion and bribe.
So they sold out to the libs. Piss on them!
Never will I buy ANYTHING S&W!
Why?
NRA-ILA FAX ALERT
(800) 392-8683 Fax: (703) 267-3918 groots@nra.org
Special 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030 3/20/2000
SMITH & WESSON BETRAYAL RUNS DEEP
"...The S&W/Clinton agreement dispenses with only a third of the municipal lawsuits, and binds only two federal agencies and two state attorneys general from filing future suits... other state and federal agencies can continue to threaten the industry, including S&W..."
On March 17, British-owned Smith & Wesson, Inc. (S&W), became the first gun maker to run up the white flag of surrender and duck behind the Clinton-Gore lines, blindsiding other members the U.S. firearms industry, and leaving them to stand with lawful gun owners and carry on the fight for the Second Amendment. Of course, there is no Second Amendment in Britain, where subjects are barred from owning handguns and many rifles and shotguns, and S&W's parent company appears poised to sell it to anyone willing to invest in a company fast becoming considered a pariah within its own industry.
S&W says the agreement with the Departments of the Treasury and Housing and Urban Development (HUD) is intended to exempt the company from non-existent federal government suits, and to ensure that it would be dropped as a defendant in a handful of reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities. Yet the agreement dispenses with only a third of the municipal lawsuits, and binds only two federal agencies and two state attorneys general from filing future suits. The remaining city suits are unaffected, and other state and federal agencies can continue to threaten the industry, including S&W.
The day following the announcement, HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo and the mayors of Atlanta, Detroit and Miami moved to support S&W by insuring that their law enforcement agencies would purchase only the company's guns, making the agreement what appears to be an odd mix of extortion and bribe.
So they sold out to the libs. Piss on them!
2000 called, they want their outrage back.
Tompkins LLC sold S&W just over a year later. S&W is under new management and is making great LE and personal protection weapons.
Get over yourself.
flyboy1788
05-14-09, 21:01
Never will I buy ANYTHING S&W!
Why?
NRA-ILA FAX ALERT
(800) 392-8683 Fax: (703) 267-3918 groots@nra.org
Special 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030 3/20/2000
SMITH & WESSON BETRAYAL RUNS DEEP
"...The S&W/Clinton agreement dispenses with only a third of the municipal lawsuits, and binds only two federal agencies and two state attorneys general from filing future suits... other state and federal agencies can continue to threaten the industry, including S&W..."
On March 17, British-owned Smith & Wesson, Inc. (S&W), became the first gun maker to run up the white flag of surrender and duck behind the Clinton-Gore lines, blindsiding other members the U.S. firearms industry, and leaving them to stand with lawful gun owners and carry on the fight for the Second Amendment. Of course, there is no Second Amendment in Britain, where subjects are barred from owning handguns and many rifles and shotguns, and S&W's parent company appears poised to sell it to anyone willing to invest in a company fast becoming considered a pariah within its own industry.
S&W says the agreement with the Departments of the Treasury and Housing and Urban Development (HUD) is intended to exempt the company from non-existent federal government suits, and to ensure that it would be dropped as a defendant in a handful of reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities. Yet the agreement dispenses with only a third of the municipal lawsuits, and binds only two federal agencies and two state attorneys general from filing future suits. The remaining city suits are unaffected, and other state and federal agencies can continue to threaten the industry, including S&W.
The day following the announcement, HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo and the mayors of Atlanta, Detroit and Miami moved to support S&W by insuring that their law enforcement agencies would purchase only the company's guns, making the agreement what appears to be an odd mix of extortion and bribe.
So they sold out to the libs. Piss on them!
Way to be living in 2000. They were bought out by an american company in 2001
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk235/flyboy1788/fail1.jpg
Way to be living in 2000. They were bought out by an american company in 2001
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk235/flyboy1788/fail1.jpg
Too funny!
My T bought in Fall of 07, (sn 52xxx range), had the alum gas block. I sent it to gotm4 and had the gas block issue fixed. When I bought it, I tried 5 pmags and none would lock up. I was informed that it was because "my lower is out of spec." All GI mags worked fine. (D&H , Colts, nhmtgs, Brownells). I have since purchased a couple more ARs, (Colts) so I thought I would get a couple of Pmags for the Colts. The newer generation of Pmags fit the Colts fine and now the new Pmags will also fit, lock up and function fine in my S&W T. Whats up? I never had my carbine modified or anything. Did magpul change their mags so they now fit the "out of spec" lowers on our S&Ws? Like i said, the S&W was never worked on for the out of spec magwell.
SwatDawg15
05-17-09, 12:26
Never will I buy ANYTHING S&W!
Why?
NRA-ILA FAX ALERT
(800) 392-8683 Fax: (703) 267-3918 groots@nra.org
Special 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030 3/20/2000
SMITH & WESSON BETRAYAL RUNS DEEP
"...The S&W/Clinton agreement dispenses with only a third of the municipal lawsuits, and binds only two federal agencies and two state attorneys general from filing future suits... other state and federal agencies can continue to threaten the industry, including S&W..."
On March 17, British-owned Smith & Wesson, Inc. (S&W), became the first gun maker to run up the white flag of surrender and duck behind the Clinton-Gore lines, blindsiding other members the U.S. firearms industry, and leaving them to stand with lawful gun owners and carry on the fight for the Second Amendment. Of course, there is no Second Amendment in Britain, where subjects are barred from owning handguns and many rifles and shotguns, and S&W's parent company appears poised to sell it to anyone willing to invest in a company fast becoming considered a pariah within its own industry.
S&W says the agreement with the Departments of the Treasury and Housing and Urban Development (HUD) is intended to exempt the company from non-existent federal government suits, and to ensure that it would be dropped as a defendant in a handful of reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities. Yet the agreement dispenses with only a third of the municipal lawsuits, and binds only two federal agencies and two state attorneys general from filing future suits. The remaining city suits are unaffected, and other state and federal agencies can continue to threaten the industry, including S&W.
The day following the announcement, HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo and the mayors of Atlanta, Detroit and Miami moved to support S&W by insuring that their law enforcement agencies would purchase only the company's guns, making the agreement what appears to be an odd mix of extortion and bribe.
So they sold out to the libs. Piss on them!
How many threads are you going put this stupid crap in? You will not make it here long if you continue to TROLL. No one cares about that crap anymore.
If you just feel the need to TROLL, feel free to leave and go to TOS. You should fit in there.
AR15AK47USER
05-17-09, 15:46
My main issue with a M&P 15T is the rail mounted front BUIS. The barrel and the free float rail are not aligned coaxially and the rear sight windage had to be cranked over too much for a zero to be achieved, IMO. I solved this by removing the front BUIS and mounting a YHM folding front sight and gas block near the end of the barrel. I played with the cant just a bit and now have a good zero with no major windage change on the rear BUIS. I replaced the rear BUIS with a YHM folding BUIS also, never liked the OEM BUIS that came with the gun. NOw not only are my sights properly aligned with the bore but also I have a longer sight radius for more accurate shooting.
My main issue with a M&P 15T is the rail mounted front BUIS. The barrel and the free float rail are not aligned coaxially and the rear sight windage had to be cranked over too much for a zero to be achieved, IMO. I solved this by removing the front BUIS and mounting a YHM folding front sight and gas block near the end of the barrel. I played with the cant just a bit and now have a good zero with no major windage change on the rear BUIS. I replaced the rear BUIS with a YHM folding BUIS also, never liked the OEM BUIS that came with the gun. NOw not only are my sights properly aligned with the bore but also I have a longer sight radius for more accurate shooting.
Do you have a picture of this?
flyboy1788
05-17-09, 17:09
How many threads are you going put this stupid crap in? You will not make it here long if you continue to TROLL. No one cares about that crap anymore.
If you just feel the need to TROLL, feel free to leave and go to TOS. You should fit in there.
+1, I found him trolling several other threads here and posting that same snippet of old news. Speaking of news, did you guys hear??? The Japanese bombed pearl harbor!!!!!! Boycott japanese cars:rolleyes:
I just purchased (awaiting shipment) the MP15x and was looking to get some feedback on PMAG's. Has anyone had trouble or do they work well?
I have an MP15A that I bought 9 months ago and all I use are PMags. No issues at all.
Patrick
4thPointOfContact
06-29-09, 01:50
S&W M&P-15T
SM 392xx
Purchased new 12 May 09 the day after I first saw it at the shop.
- Locks all generations of PMags without any issues.
- Front gas block has one pin and two set screws, I don't see it as ever being a problem.
- No "T" markings on the receiver
- Good staking on castle nut and gas key screws
- Newer set screw secured under-rail (not as shown in manual)
- M4 style folding front sight
Only thing I've done with it so far is add a DD offset front sling mount, an Eotech, and a slightly thicker A2 style grip. I'll likely put a MagPul MOE grip on in the near future.
AR15AK47USER
06-29-09, 02:33
My S&W 15T has run fine with PMags, no issues. Also runs fine with Lancer system Mags. Everything drops free, no feed issues either. Get as many as yo can.
I bought TWO lower receivers in November 2008. Sequential serial numbers of 06xxx. Again, lowers only, they could have been laying around for a while in the shop. One is a complete 11.5 sbr and the other is an in progress mid-length 6.5 grendel. The complete one LOVES pmags. No problems what so ever.
In May 09 I bought a MOE version of the M&P 15 SN SM24xxx. It has a nice FDE Magpul stock, fore stock, rear BUIS, and came with a 30 round PMAG ie a "Black&Tan". I bought 5 more PMAGS from Grant and have been GTG.
Added a Surefire G2L, Voltor clamp, a small rail segment that screwed to the fore stock, an Aimpoint ML3 and a Blackhawk single point sling attached to a MI-30 clamped on the castle nut.
The front sight needed to be raised quite a bit to 50/200 yd zero the MBUIS. The gas key and castle nut appear to my eye to be staked correctly.
So far I have approximately a thousand rounds through her without a problem.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated. have the ammo now I just have to wait for the gun to get here. Really testing my patience.
The_War_Wagon
06-29-09, 09:18
PMags NOT fitting were only a problem in the early run of M&P's... like MINE... unfortunately...:(
The NEWEST revision PMags (that let you lock the mag cover on the bottom) DO work in my M&P, but as I have a few dozen mixed mintage PMags, I've just decided to keep those with my POF, and use better quality metal mags - like Okay, BMI, et.al. - with my M&P. Just to keep it all straight.
I have a M&P15x born Feb 09 and the Pmags work great. My Smithy has been flawless so far but I only have 682 rounds through it.
Make sure your gas key is properly staked and if not have it done. Also my 15x is "over-gassed" so I am running a "H2" buffer in it. I also have the "H" buffer for weaker ammo.
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