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Doc Safari
06-10-13, 16:45
This is just for my own curosity. I've always wondered if having a significant other that shares your political (particularly with guns) and religious views is essential or not that big a deal.
I've always considered the two a deal-breaker, but some of you may not agree.
My wife tends to share the same views and values I do. But she is Sicilian so she can out shout and out argue me if she needs to. A disagreement may or may not involve sharp objects or the threat thereof.
Straight Shooter
06-10-13, 16:55
NUMERO UNO with me.
I could not/would not/HAVE NOT ever married a woman that was
an F-in lib, or anti gun. Or atheist. She doesn't have to be in 100%
lockstep with me on everything, but too far left and its a NO-GO.
I freakin cannot utterly stand to hear a bunch of ****in lib women
babbling on, its my WORST pet peeve.
After having many debates with my GF, i have determined that she is a closet libertarian. Her mother is a rabid Obama supporter though (to the tune of having one of those idiot "Hope" murals on her wall) so she is still trying to break away from that egg shell. Her views on social issues have come 180 on some fronts. It was a point of contention at one point, but not so much anymore.
montanadave
06-10-13, 17:01
This is just for my own curosity. I've always wondered if having a significant other that shares your political (particularly with guns) and religious views is essential or not that big a deal.
My wife (as opposed to myself) is a tad more reserved regarding her political views. She was certainly more liberal than me in the past (and I was a Republican for most of my life), but, like me, she has become disillusioned with both parties at this point and adopted a much more libertarian attitude, particularly on social issues and individual rights. As for 2A issues, we're pretty much on the same page.
Religious views are kind of a touchy subject. My views are what I consider agnostic (militantly so, at times), although many would consider me atheist as I do not believe in the "god" of ethical monotheism. She is Christian and demonstrates the depth of her faith daily as evidenced by the manner in which she tolerates me. ;)
Similar values and beliefs except for religion, which is understandable as she lost some immediate and significant family members when she was younger. Some things I just leave along regardless of what I believe about them.
Doc Safari
06-10-13, 17:05
I guess the main reason I started this thread is because I've been having second thoughts about a woman I've been interested in. I loaned her some religious DVD's that I thought were really interesting. She returned them after watching part of one and sort of shrugged them off as "yeah, that's what so-and-so's mom believes."
In another incident, I sold my Glock 22 to a friend who got kind of careless with it (almost got it stolen). I told her about the incident and the first thing she said was, "you should have made him register it." Well, I know she's ignorant of the law (there is no registration here), but it was the overall attitude that registration somehow is okay that ruffled my feathers.
Lastly, I find myself having to explain what I mean about some of my comments. I almost never have to do that with anyone else.
I'm seeing these things as red flags that won't get any better over time.
In short, I'm thinking this lady doesn't score very high on the compatibility meter and we ain't exactly having e-harmony moments. I think it's time for me to look elsewhere.
My wife and I couldn't be more alike when it comes to politics & religion.
Here is an example of things my wife says from time to time:
- "****ing liberal feminatzi bitches giving us real women a bad name..."
- "Why do so many men act like little bitches with sand in their vaginas these days- and why would any woman like that..."
- "Hope and change- yeah **** that- How about an actual political platform over rediculous feel-good slogans buddy..."
- Bartender asks her: "Can I get you a cocktail; a martini, daquari or a fuzzy navel perhaps? My wife with a look of disgust on her face: "Save that crap for someone who doesn't like drinking alcohol- Pour me a Lagvulin 16 up/neat..."
- “It's like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black.”
I love her so damn much!
I knew when she quoted spinal tap the first time she was beyond special.
One time she went up to a group of upity liberal women at a bar; we were eavesdropping on them as they were speaking about politics they hadn't the foggiest idea about; talking about the upcoming Obama/Romney election. They were all dimwitted idiots.
She asked if they would vote to end womans suffrage- we saw a comedy bit on this somewhere- I forget where though, and she wanted to play it out on them.
One of them actually said yes- she would vote to end womans suffrage; proclaiming woman "suffer" too much at the hands of men. My wife told her to get moving on an "abolish the 19th" petition...
It made me laugh my ass off :D
I'm with straight shooter- liberal feminatzi bitches whinning is far worse than nails on a chalk board, even worse than listening to "We can dance" or some Britney Spears/Miley Cirus (ETC) shit over and overand over again.
VooDoo6Actual
06-10-13, 18:07
Got it covered in spades.
It's all good on that end.
No difference in our beliefs, values, views, trust, TEAMWORK ethic etc.
She knows her strengths, what the TEAM needs from her & stays in her lane.
Let's Big Daddy do his thing.
When I first started dating and eventually married my wife she knew I owned weapons. I wasn't a competitor yet so it wasn't the passion it is now. I was just a newbie deputy sheriff working in the jail.
I eventually went on to a local P.D. and became a firearms inst. and avid competitor. The issue was me teaching my 8 yr old how to shoot. (16 now)
Her feelings surprised me at first, and required some stern words, but she eventually realized I wasn't just giving him a gun and a box of bullets and telling him to have a ball.
Our political views have pretty much been similar with her feeling tending to swing a little left on some social issues, but as time went on I've seen her moving to the right on recent issues.
What I found amusing was how she started becoming interested in shooting. She now knows how to operate my AR's and the service type sidearms and goes out with me once a month or so. Shes even brought he liberal Obama loving sister who loves shooting and is constantly pestering us to go out for a few hours of trigger time.
So what was it thst got her interested? Any guesses?
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Smuckatelli
06-10-13, 18:52
My wife grew up under Communism/Socialism depending on who you talk to.
Politically we are conservative, very much pro-gun, pro-Constitution and individual rights.
She had no issues with the kids shooting, she considers it quality dad time....but she has only gone to the range once with us.
We share the same political beliefs but not religious. She goes to church with the kids and I maybe twice a year.
I sleep soundly each night knowing that we are "equally yoked." As far as we're concerned, these are nonnegotiable. I love my wife.
Well Doc, I'll take one for the team... My wife & I are complete opposites. I'm Catholic & Republican and she's a Democrat & Lutheran. We both went to parochial schools growing up until high school where we met (didn't hook up til 15 years later). We got married in a Catholic church but our kids were baptized Lutheran. She's got her MBA & works in the corporate world. I've got a technical degree & get dirty for a living. She drinks wine, I drink beer. She's extremely PC. I'm extremely NOT. Obviously, I'm into guns & own several. She's slightly anti but she is coming around. We get along just fine. Sure, there are "subjects" we try to avoid. If anything, I voice my opinion way more than she does. I usually just get an eye roll but if I hit a nerve, then she'll have something to say. The "gay" thing usually rocks the boat. I'm not very accepting & I'm vocal about it. The louder I am, the louder she gets. I've learned over time that when Modern Family or The New Normal comes on TV, I keep my mouth shut & simply change the channel. I used to say stuff but that got me nowhere. For us, there's more to life than our "differences". We enjoy raising our kids, traveling, motorsports, our families & friends. I see us rubbing off on each other. I'm becoming more polished & cultural, she's roughing up at the edges.
I say go for it. Opposites can really open your eyes to a whole other world.
I tried that whole "having things in common" thing with my last girlfriend. We lasted 5 years were at each others throat constantly. Sure it works for some people but I think it can be a lot of hype too.
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LowSpeed_HighDrag
06-10-13, 21:39
She essentially had the same views as me, and sort of adopts my views as they change over time.
I don't know how people do it with religious and political differences, but more power to them. I couldn't do it and neither could my wife. Neither one of us have any patience with the current administration or the liberal mindset. We both are moderately religious, but have much more religious tolerance than we do political tolerance.
19 years, three kids, a successful business, a very happy life. We couldn't have accomplished it without the love, respect, friendship and teamwork we each bring to the table.
I don't know how people do it with religious and political differences, but more power to them.
My wife's religious beliefs provide her a certain amount of comfort and a means to make peace with some tragic events of her past. She's not absurd about it, doesn't think the universe is only 10,000 years old or things like that.
In contrast my beliefs are pretty bleak and can make life psychologically difficult to accept. But because of my beliefs, the last thing I'd want to do is take hers from her. It would be one of the worst things I could do to the person I care more about than anyone else in the world.
We are "compatible enough" in that area that there isn't a problem.
We share the same beliefs, but she's far less involved/vocal than I am. She just rolls her eyes when we start talking politics at the dinner table.
Politics....definitely NOT. She is a teacher and votes Democrat as usual. Religion on the other hand, she grew up Lutheran and I was baptized Lutheran so we share some of the same religious views but curiously do not often talk about it. Guns? :rolleyes: well, I won't even bother with that one. I'll just say we don't even go there and when we do, sparks plus fire leads to explosion. She is also head in the sand, ass in the air as far as gun laws and rights are concerned.
She is also head in the sand, ass in the air...
We've talked, our wives are similar in that respect. When they hold that position, there's only one thing you can do with 'em. ;)
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Not married but as far as girlfriends go as long as they are middle of the road type. Not overly left or right. At the very least she has to treat guns like i treat religion. If you like it good for you, enjoy, be happy just keep me out of it
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While not 100% on everything, my wife and I share a lot of the same views now which I must say I'm proud of her for hearing what I have to say and incorporating it a lot into her thinking. She grew up in a totally different environment than me which was an echo chamber of leftism and college + grad school which was more of the same. I just stayed patient and let the facts present themselves over time and after 10 years she sees the world much more clearly, though it's still hard with her family at times. It's really hard to grasp at times just how little information some people have then the profound impact the bad misinformation has on them.
Religiously we attend church together whenever possible, but I've been working a lot of weekends lately so that hasn't been as much as I'd like.
My fiancée and I see eye to eye on just about everything. It's great. It would drive me nuts if I had to live with a super-lib holy-roller.
Eurodriver
06-11-13, 10:19
Just got done dating an atheist liberal for almost a year.
She was a freak in bed but I'll be damned if I couldn't stand a single thing she ever talked about.
2 to 3 BJs a day make a man put up with some annoying stuff. :D
Political & religious views are spot on, cultural views on the other hand are oil and water. She is probably somewhere right now taking selfies for Instagram while eating Paleo/#Clean and "liking" the piss out of some strangers photos she considers a friend.
The implanting of false memories and expectations is one of our biggest arguments.
My fiancée and I see eye to eye on just about everything. It's great. It would drive me nuts if I had to live with a super-lib holy-roller.
I would like to hear more about your relationship with your fiance.
Ohhhh yeah... nevermind. :D
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I would like to hear more about your relationship with your fiance.
Ohhhh yeah... nevermind. :D
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Your memory serves you well... hehe
Really though, good sex can cover for a lot of deficiencies, but if you plan on growing old with her, you'd better have something in common... and to the poster with the sig. other that instagrams/FBs all the time - I would nip that in the bud. That would drive me nuts. Maybe it's acceptable when you're a teenager, but grown women should have their priorities straight.
Politically/Socially my wife and I are pretty close together. Minor differences but nothing to amount to anything. Religiously is another issue. She is Mormon and I am atheist. We often struggle with the issues that arise from this. There are days that I swear I am going to lose it if I see one more scripture app appear on my ipad.
Just got done dating an atheist liberal for almost a year.
She was a freak in bed but I'll be damned if I couldn't stand a single thing she ever talked about.
2 to 3 BJs a day make a man put up with some annoying stuff. :D
:laugh:
brickboy240
06-11-13, 11:12
Would NEVER have married a woman that did not share my views on guns, politics, religion or other matters.
Probably why I have been married for 20 years.
Many people tend to focus only on physical or think "I will change her later" then end up divorced a few years later on.
-brickboy240
Your memory serves you well... hehe
Really though, good sex can cover for a lot of deficiencies, but if you plan on growing old with her, you'd better have something in common... and to the poster with the sig. other that instagrams/FBs all the time - I would nip that in the bud. That would drive me nuts. Maybe it's acceptable when you're a teenager, but grown women should have their priorities straight.
Easier said than done Padawan...but yes, it drives me nuts. The issue is she doesnt do it when we are together, or when inappropriate, its on her own time or when im watching a movie shes not interested in. Its just a difference of opinion on what "I" think she should be doing with her time. In the end, as long as shes an exceptional wife and mother, im going to bust her ovaries over it. Ill just quietly grind my teeth.
Finances and spending may be something to think about. A woman could be fairly politically and religiously conservative but have a bad spending habit.
We have enough in common politically/socially and enough differences religiously that we can agree or agree to disagree. Respecting her opinion and picking your battles is key.
But if you can't keep a roof over your head, all other points are moot.
Moose-Knuckle
06-11-13, 17:35
I wouldn't be with her if things were not copacetic.
montanadave
06-11-13, 19:46
Just got done dating an atheist liberal for almost a year.
She was a freak in bed but I'll be damned if I couldn't stand a single thing she ever talked about.
2 to 3 BJs a day make a man put up with some annoying stuff. :D
Your "taking one (or two or three) for the team" is an inspiration to us all. :D
Cagemonkey
06-11-13, 20:01
Wife and I are pretty much in agreement concerning most issues in regards to politics and social values.
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