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Mac5.56
06-11-13, 21:55
Hey Guys,

I got my pistol permit a little over half a year ago. Before that I shot a few pistols here and there by (prior to the NY CT bans) my father was a bit of a fudd. He taught me how to shoot rifles really well, but not much experience on the pistol front other then a half dozen or so plinking sessions here and there.

I have about 1000 rounds through pistols of various calibers in the last several months. I'm getting better, but I'm at a point of frustration.

All of my shots are low, grouping is OK with some fliers (to be expected as I get better), but I'm consistently low. I really want to do some training. My issue though is that I'm not a beginner shooter, so I don't want to take a "pistols for dummies" course. 95% of the shots I'm taking are on paper with this target: http://sport.birchwoodcasey.com/Libraries/Products_-_Dirty_Bird_Targets/lg_35608_Dirty_Bird_12x_18_Silhouette_Target.sflb.ashx

I'm thinking I need to get some professional help to bring my shots in to dead center though.

Does anyone have any suggestions for good, no bull trainers in the Hudson Valley area? I am willing to drive about 3 hours one way to attend a class.

MAP
06-11-13, 22:15
Chris Fry can give you some solid instruction.

http://www.mdtstraining.com

Mike

ICANHITHIMMAN
06-11-13, 22:19
Where do you live? I will help, or give you names if you don't live by me. I'm south of Rochester

sjc3081
06-11-13, 22:58
We probably live very close to each other. I have a pistol rifle range across the street from my home. If you wish we could do some ball and dummy drills, to sharpen your skills.
PM me if interested.

Mac5.56
06-12-13, 10:22
Hey everyone, thanks for the response.

I am in contact with my friend on the Ulster County SWAT team and he has offered to help me out with some basics and drills. I will reach out to you SJC if this falls through. ICANHITHIMMAN: You're a little far away from me but if I'm ever in the area for anything I will hit you up!

Thanks for the link to the trainer. They will be really close to me for a Practical Shotgun Course so I will be following the site to see if they come near me in the future for pistol stuff.

QuietOne
06-12-13, 16:52
Hi Mac, I can't recommend Chris Fry enough. He's not as well known as some of the famous trainers but I would put him in the top rank. I've had instruction from him twice and changed my procedures around because of it. He's very smart and really thinks things through in a way that other trainers may not. I was at a tactical conference on a Saturday and failing badly in front of 20 or so students. It didn't bother me terribly because I was learning a ton about running a pistol one handed. The next day Chris found me and asked what was I going to do about it. The answer was change from a Glock 26 to something easier to run one handed( Smith M&P) because of the rear sight. Most people I've trained with won't seek you out the next day to push you. That really impressed me. I've been watching Chris closely ever since. In the NY, NJ area Chris kind of has the territory to himself. A lot of trainers don't want to go to NY because of the politics. Chris is already there and doing a great job for folks in that area. I'm from a free state so going to NY is problematic for me, especially now that the SAFER Act is law. I'm not sure of where I stand in regards to travelling to NY now. I have to get in contact with Chris to check that out.

rocsteady
06-28-13, 02:25
Hey Guys,

I got my pistol permit a little over half a year ago. Before that I shot a few pistols here and there by (prior to the NY CT bans) my father was a bit of a fudd. He taught me how to shoot rifles really well, but not much experience on the pistol front other then a half dozen or so plinking sessions here and there.

I have about 1000 rounds through pistols of various calibers in the last several months. I'm getting better, but I'm at a point of frustration.

All of my shots are low, grouping is OK with some fliers (to be expected as I get better), but I'm consistently low. I really want to do some training. My issue though is that I'm not a beginner shooter, so I don't want to take a "pistols for dummies" course. 95% of the shots I'm taking are on paper with this target: http://sport.birchwoodcasey.com/Libraries/Products_-_Dirty_Bird_Targets/lg_35608_Dirty_Bird_12x_18_Silhouette_Target.sflb.ashx

I'm thinking I need to get some professional help to bring my shots in to dead center though.

Does anyone have any suggestions for good, no bull trainers in the Hudson Valley area? I am willing to drive about 3 hours one way to attend a class.

Didn't see this before and tried to PM you but it wouldn't go through. Anyway, you were trying to help me with a range and I could help you here if you'd like. PM me or send to my d_rocca @hotmail.com address for details.

jondoe297
06-28-13, 09:01
I would make contact with Ben Dewalt at OnSight Firearms Training. He can get you squared away.
http://www.onsightfirearmstraining.com/

Stretz Tactical Inc
06-30-13, 11:43
If your near Westchester County, I have a couple of 1 day VSM basic pistol classes coming up: http://www.stretztactical.com/course-dates/

Sentaruu
06-30-13, 11:58
If your near Westchester County, I have a couple of 1 day VSM basic pistol classes coming up: http://www.stretztactical.com/course-dates/

for your tactical carbine course, am i to assume that 30 rd. mags are off limits?

Stretz Tactical Inc
06-30-13, 13:34
To civilians, unfortunately Yes. Law enforcement and military are fine.

newyork
06-30-13, 17:57
Chris Fry. Period.

Mac5.56
07-01-13, 21:54
If your near Westchester County, I have a couple of 1 day VSM basic pistol classes coming up: http://www.stretztactical.com/course-dates/

I may sign up for that September Class to be honest. Thank you for the heads up. Are there prereqs?

sjc3081
07-01-13, 22:34
I see that the Strezt classes are held at the Blue Mountain Range, they have very asinine rules about rapid fire and downloading mags and loading one round at a time. I don't see how you can have a productive training class at that range.

Stretz Tactical Inc
07-02-13, 08:51
I may sign up for that September Class to be honest. Thank you for the heads up. Are there prereqs?

Your welcome. No prereqs. I look forward to seeing you at a class.

Ken

Stretz Tactical Inc
07-02-13, 08:55
I see that the Strezt classes are held at the Blue Mountain Range, they have very asinine rules about rapid fire and downloading mags and loading one round at a time. I don't see how you can have a productive training class at that range.

SJC3081,

The classes are held on the police ranges - the rules you refer to DO NOT apply. SWAT training occurs on those ranges: full auto, flash bangs, smoke, shooting on the move, team movement drills etc. all happen there.

snake eater 332
07-07-13, 01:49
Chris Fry is excellent! No doubt!

You said that you'd be willing to drive up to 3 hours away for a good class....then I'd also highly recommend King 33 in Southington, CT. King 33 is owned by Chris Fields, an 18B/Special Forces Weapons Sergeant, who is an outstanding instructor. What's unique about King 33 is that they're one of the only training companies in the region, maybe the only one, using Simunitions for force-on-force training for military, LE, and civilians. Nice thing about the Sims training classes is that we have the Sims weapons there and no need or worries about bringing your own. Guys come from NY, MA, and RI all the time for classes.

http://www.king33training.com/


Full disclosure - I'm an instructor at King 33 also.

jpmuscle
07-07-13, 02:57
Mac, whereabouts are you in the state? Also you and ICAN check your PM's.