Democrats Quietly Renew Push for Gun Measures

[a1fabweld]

Looks like they're at it again:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/us/politics/democrats-quietly-renew-push-for-gun-measures.html

[SteyrAUG]

Who here is surprised that Harry Reid is now stating "He won't accept a watered down version" of a gun control bill and he's grandstanding with Newton families after he showed his true colors last time around?

[Bulletdog]

Quote from the article: "Americans remain broadly supportive of legislation that expands background checks on gun purchases..."


What? Come again? Which "Americans" are they talking to? Most of the Americans I know are against this backdoor registration, government intrusion crap, and THAT is why it was shot down in flames the FIRST time.

[jpmuscle]

I hate these people with the upmost passion.....

[HackerF15E]

Quote from the article: "Americans remain broadly supportive of legislation that expands background checks on gun purchases..."

What? Come again? Which "Americans" are they talking to? Most of the Americans I know are against this backdoor registration, government intrusion crap, and THAT is why it was shot down in flames the FIRST time.

The latest poll they're quoting in articles from yesterday and today say "69%" of Americans support background checks now.

Where's your 90% support gone, POTUS....Bloomberg...other gun control proponents? Or did it simply not exist in the first place.

Obviously, this poll of 1,000 adults is just as accurate (inaccurate) as the previous 90% polls, too.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57588062/poll-more-americans-have-a-positive-view-of-the-economy/


Although a bill to expand background checks for gun purchases was recently defeated in the Senate, most Americans are still in support of such legislation. Seven in 10 (69 percent) think that Congress should pass a bill that expands background checks for gun purchases if it comes up for another vote. Majorities of Republicans (58 percent), Democrats (86 percent), and independents (63 percent) all agree.

Most Americans who live in households with at least one firearm agree that background checks should be expanded (61 percent), though in smaller numbers than Americans who don't have guns in their households (80 percent).

But Americans are not particularly encouraged that such legislation will be enacted this year. Less than half think that new gun legislation this year is even somewhat likely, and just 14% think it is very likely. Most - 56 percent - think it is not very or not at all likely.

[VooDoo6Actual]

Keep in mind the push so happens to align w/ State sponsored Propaganda media, events, commercials, NEWS (lies, untruths) now being completely legal. Just coincidentally signed in January, 2013. Most Americans have no clue. Convince the ignorant & connect the dots.
Look for more events shooters & schools w/ unanswered, unsubstantiated, uncorroborated statements etc.

The squeeze is on.

[Cagemonkey]

Looks like they're at it again:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/us/politics/democrats-quietly-renew-push-for-gun-measures.htmlThanks for keeping us informed. Not to be a jerk, but I got to say. Is anyone really surprised by this? If you fail, try again. They ultimately hold the advantage and will eventually succeed. I'd like to be more positive, but theirs no sense denying reality. They will use any and all means available. Hold on for a wild ride.

[Magic_Salad0892]

Lol. **** it. Let's push back.

[FlyingHunter]

Who here is surprised that Harry Reid is now stating "He won't accept a watered down version" of a gun control bill and he's grandstanding with Newton families after he showed his true colors last time around?

No surprise here. It's working so well in Chicago...we need it nationwide..sigh.

[SteyrAUG]

The good news is they pushed too hard after Newtown and that combined with the NRA offer of $300 Life Memberships caused an opposition that they can't shame into "feeling responsible" despite their propaganda.

We need now only hold the NRA accountable and make them go stand against this bullshit and make it start costing people their elected positions.

The economy was rough and many were taking money allocated to mags and ammo and instead invested it into the NRA. $300 was a lot of money for some of us.

Now they need to go do their jobs, and do it mindful of the fact that individuals like Harry Reid pulled the wool over their eyes and got an A rating.

Our civil rights are under attack by a hostile administration and Congress. Our right to "keep and bear" arms is as important to us as a man's right to vote for the President he wishes. It is far more important to us then where we may sit on a city bus.

[duece71]

Its only a matter of time everyone........only a matter of time. The tide is with them.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Its only a matter of time everyone........only a matter of time. The tide is with them.

Tides go back and forth.

We must focus on guns, don't worry about Benghazi, the IRS, the economy, Syria, the war or reporters. Global warming and guns, and how much the GOP hates brown people- that's what we need to focus on...

[jpmuscle]

Just go away Joe...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-reports-progress-on-its-gun-actions-but-says-legislation-would-be-most-important/2013/06/18/db54462e-d7fe-11e2-b418-9dfa095e125d_story.html


WASHINGTON — A scrappy Vice President Joe Biden vowed Tuesday to “beat the gun lobby” by ultimately passing stronger firearm laws and said some lawmakers who voted against background checks have privately told him they want another chance.

With President Barack Obama away in Europe, Biden held a White House event to announce progress on executive orders to reduce gun violence while stressing the need for congressional action that has eluded them. “We have not given up,” Biden repeatedly declared during a 25-minute speech in the South Court Auditorium next to the West Wing where he Obama announced a gun safety push in January.



“This fight isn’t over, far from it,” Biden said.

The Democratic-controlled Senate voted against legislation in April that would have expanded background checks for firearm purchases to gun shows and online sales, and so far no lawmaker who voted against it has announced a change of their vote. But Biden said he’s gotten calls from senators who voted no to ask, “Can you find a way for us to revisit this?” He did not identify any of the callers.

“I know for a fact some of them now wonder whether that was a prudent vote,” Biden said. He said lawmakers who do not support improved gun safety will “pay a political price” because voters want change after December’s shooting at Connecticut’s Sandy Hook Elementary School killed 20 first graders and six staff.

“We have yet to succeed in the House and Senate, but we will,” Biden predicted.

However, Senate Democratic leaders have yet to gain enough votes to try again to pass background checks. National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said those who voted against background checks are following the wishes of their constituents despite a campaign against them, including advertising being funded by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

“Undoubtedly a lot of pressure is being placed on them, but the one thing they have right now is support from voters in their state. And that’s the most important thing to have,” Arulanandam said in response to Biden.

Biden was introduced by Stephen Barton, a victim of last year’s movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colo., who now is working to push for stronger laws with Bloomberg’s group. The vice president opened his remarks by saying he wished they were gathered there to celebrate a legislative victory.

But instead he announced that the administration has completed or significantly advanced 21 of the 23 executive actions that Obama ordered in January in response to Sandy Hook. As an example, Biden held up newly completed federal emergency response planning guides for schools and houses of worship to prepare for a shooting, tornado or other disasters.

The two executive orders with the most remaining work are finalizing regulations to require insurers to cover mental health at parity with medical benefits, expected later this year, and putting a confirmed director at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Obama’s nominee to head the ATF, B. Todd Jones, had a Senate hearing last week but has little chance of advancing amid political wrangling over a position that hasn’t been confirmed in six years.

Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[brushy bill]

I hate these people with the upmost passion.....

Can't fault you for that.

[SteveS]

Remember 53% of the voters reelected Obama. [I am sure they would like him to run for a third term.]

[30 cal slut]

I hate these people with the upmost passion.....

embrace your hate.

[MountainRaven]

Our civil rights are under attack by a hostile administration and Congress. Our right to "keep and bear" arms is as important to us as a man's right to vote for the President he wishes. It is far more important to us then where we may sit on a city bus.

Requesting permission to repost this as a quote. I can attribute it or not, as you wish.

When my brother was saying I was being irrational about my right to keep and bear arms, I wanted to tell him that the situation is akin to telling a black man that you want to take away his right to vote: How do you expect him to react?

[SteyrAUG]

Requesting permission to repost this as a quote. I can attribute it or not, as you wish.

When my brother was saying I was being irrational about my right to keep and bear arms, I wanted to tell him that the situation is akin to telling a black man that you want to take away his right to vote: How do you expect him to react?

Didn't see this until now, feel free.

[MountainRaven]

Didn't see this until now, feel free.

Posted it up.

Apparently, I'm a privileged white, cisgendered male. The very idea that I would compare a civil right to another civil right is, apparently, absurd. Because I'm not black. Or a woman. Or transgendered.