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JusticeM4
06-28-13, 13:03
Just wanted to post some pics and my first-hand view of the 2 rifles.

I just purchased a new Colt 6920 from Walmart today and wanted to compare it to my Spikes Tactical M4 build. Comments and questions welcome.

Spikes on the Left, Colt on right
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0222.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0222.jpg.html)

Spikes top, Colt bottom
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0220.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0220.jpg.html)

Both have FA BCG's that are properly staked (better staking on the Colt)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0201.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0201.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0204.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0204.jpg.html)

Lowers: Spikes has the low shelf for RDIAS, Colt does not and is semiauto only

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0207.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0207.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0212.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0212.jpg.html)


Colt has notched hammer, Spikes does not
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0217.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0217.jpg.html)

Stocks: Colt came with the 4-position tube with Rogers Stock, Spikes with a 6-position stock (I upgraded the M4 stock to the CTR)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0227.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0227.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/eiji81/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0232.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eiji81/media/1%20AR15/Colt%20M4/DSCI0232.jpg.html)


Overall I'm happy with the Colt for $1097 Walmart Special. I spent about $1k on the Spikes build, luckily I bough the upper and lower (stripped) before January. Only thing i'm surprised is that Colt's receiver extension is only 4-pos instead of a 6-pos; not a big deal since I have it all the way out for my LOP.

What are your suggestions for a handguard on the Colt? Magpul MOE or a drop-in rail? Only thing I plan to add on the Colt is a Flashlight and possibly an Aimpoint PRO.

VIP3R 237
06-28-13, 13:25
Most will say that the quality of the parts on the Colt is superior to the ST. However you have a lot of optional accessories on the Spike's that may make it the better value.

bobsolla
06-28-13, 13:26
i would just add a magpul hand guard and a light.keep it simple!

RogerinTPA
06-28-13, 13:53
Sorry, both BCGs are Not properly staked. Only the Colt is. Just because the Spikes BCG staking looking similar, close enough doesn't count. Unless the staking is made deep enough to make contact with the screws to prevent them from moving, it is not properly staked. How hard is it to stake gas key screws properly when they went that far to begin with??? It's another issue I have with commercial grade ARs. Close enough, is good enough, seems to be the business model.

MarkG
06-28-13, 14:50
A "low shelf" receiver without a DIAS is about as useful as a suppressor mount without a suppressor. It adds nothing to the value of the weapon. However, it has proven its value as a sales tool. In addition to Spikes, BCM is very proud that their lower receivers are purportedly compatible with a drop in auto sear.

That being said, what is the obsession with labeling drop in auto sears as being registered? When we discuss suppressors or short barreled weapons we don't qualify them as being registered. It just makes no sense... or is that nonsense? I get the two confused.

polymorpheous
06-28-13, 14:51
Sorry, both BCGs are Not properly staked. Only the Colt is. Just because the Spikes BCG staking looking similar, close enough doesn't count. Unless the staking is made deep enough to make contact with the screws to prevent them from moving, it is not properly staked. How hard is it to stake gas key screws properly when they went that far to begin with??? It's another issue I have with commercial grade ARs. Close enough, is good enough, seems to be the business model.

Exactly.
Another case of a poster not knowing what they don't know.

Look! My Spike's is just as good!
Now what can I buy to make it look just as cool as my Spike's?

What's the gas port dimensions?
Chamber dimensions?
Heat treat on parts like the bolt, cam pin, fcg, etc.

There is a lot more to a quality AR than you can see.

Airhasz
06-28-13, 16:14
That is comical that Spikes "almost staked the key...lol
I don't think the person that staked that Spikes carrier actually knows what staking achieves or he could not of possibly missed his screw up. Nice training of employees Spike! Then again, I don't know what these workers get paid. Decent paycheck = employees with brain.

6933
06-28-13, 16:27
What's the gas port dimensions?
Chamber dimensions?
Heat treat on parts like the bolt, cam pin, fcg, etc.

There is a lot more to a quality AR than you can see.


And so much more. Sorry OP, but Colt does not = Spikes. If you're happy, that's all that matters. Just don't try to say one is as good as the other.

Split66
06-28-13, 17:21
And so much more. Sorry OP, but Colt does not = Spikes. If you're happy, that's all that matters. Just don't try to say one is as good as the other.


I dont think he ever did. In fact I didnt see much info in this comparison (or comparison in this comparison) at all but some low fi component pics. I guess I'm spoiled here with people blowing up rifles and throwing them out of helicopters and what not.

MistWolf
06-28-13, 17:24
I didn't see where JusticeM4 stated his Spikes was as good as his Colt.

Are you sure the BCG on the right isn't properly staked? I've seen photos of other BCGs that didn't look as neatly done that were used as examples as being staked correctly
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/Unbelievable/BCG_zpsfa9b24a9.jpg

Make sure Dr. Frankenstein really has created a monster before passing out the torches and pitchforks

MarkG
06-28-13, 17:38
Is it worth noting that the Spikes carrier key screws have a 9/64 socket and the Colts screws have 1/8 sockets?

Heavy Metal
06-28-13, 18:33
Are you planning on putting a large scope on that Colt?

Airhasz
06-28-13, 18:36
I didn't see where JusticeM4 stated his Spikes was as good as his Colt.

Are you sure the BCG on the right isn't properly staked? I've seen photos of other BCGs that didn't look as neatly done that were used as examples as being staked correctly
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/Unbelievable/BCG_zpsfa9b24a9.jpg

Make sure Dr. Frankenstein really has created a monster before passing out the torches and pitchforks



For me, I like to see more metal mushroomed on the screws like the Colt or why bother staking...ymmv

justin_247
06-28-13, 18:47
Are we really going to do this again?

Colt > Spike's.

narcedglocker
06-28-13, 19:02
my spikes bcg looks just like the Colt bcg pictured

Singlestack Wonder
06-28-13, 20:31
my spikes bcg looks just like the Colt bcg pictured

Now we have two different Spike's bcg's with different staking in the same thread. Great example of poor quality control and inconsistency!

justin_247
06-28-13, 20:52
Spike's 5.45x39 BCG:
https://imageshack.com/a/img838/5711/mi9w.jpg

Just as a reminder:
https://imageshack.com/a/img404/5284/sgom.jpg

6933
06-28-13, 22:07
I dont think he ever did.

Give me a ****in' break. I said "try." We have had way too many threads go south with the "just as good as" eventually coming through.

donlapalma
06-28-13, 22:52
Hey OP, care to chime back in here and state exactly what you are after with starting this thread? You draw up a pic comparison between two rifles that the majority on this forum believe is not a fair comparison. Maybe if you help us understand what point you are trying to make, if any, maybe then a meaningful discussion could be had.

Ryno12
06-28-13, 23:22
I've got a feeling the OP posted this more out of his own excitement than anything. As of a couple of days ago, he was unsure what the rollmark was on a 6920 even though that info is everywhere. https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=133793
The majority of us here are well aware of the differences.
OP, congrats on your new purchase & enjoy your Colt. If there is anything you need to know about it, there is metric tons of info already here. Just look around for it.

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Split66
06-29-13, 00:55
Give me a ****in' break. I said "try." We have had way too many threads go south with the "just as good as" eventually coming through.


You're probably right. If this thread lives long enough, and the OP comes out with it PM me your info and I'll mail you a beer. Do you like microbrews, imports, or the cheap stuff?

DiabhailGadhar
06-29-13, 01:12
Please close this thread...please!!!

The retardation has gone two pages too far!