Obama Toasts Tanzanian Dictator Who Led Nation To Economic Ruin...

[Denali]

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/01/obama-toasts-failed-african-socialist


President Barack Obama toasted the founding dictator of post-colonial Tanzania on Monday, who collectivized the nation’s low-tech agricultural sector, established a one-party state and left that African nation’s economy in ruins.

“[Y]ou might say an American child is my child. We might say a Tanzanian child is my child,” Obama said after quoting the Tanzanian saying “my neighbor’s child is my child.”

“In this way, both of our nations will be looking after all of our children and we’ll be living out the vision of President [Julius] Nyerere,” Obama continued.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/01/obama-toasts-failed-african-socialist/#ixzz2XrKjFKqL

I really wish to see his school records unsealed, the same crew of Columbia University communists covered in the link, also celebrated Pol Pot & the Khmer Rouge...Which of course would be perfectly in character for the intellectual thug who hung ornaments from the national Christmas tree in the likeness of chairman Mao, the most savage mass murderer in human history...

[Honu]

YOUR RACIST

That will be the reponse to anyone that says anything anymore ?

Anymore things he does like this are to be expected

[montanadave]

Get a blog.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Everybody needs a role model....

[brickboy240]

I am sure this dictator is one of Obama's heroes.

Obama is trying to to the same thing to America....basically flush it down the toilet.

-brickboy240

[Mjolnir]

No different than Bush and the Sauds, McCain and BOTH Clintons with the goddamned Wahhabists and Salafists.

So you guys not see the trend? It matters not, apparently, the president: the foreign policy does not change. Not very easily, any way.


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"One cannot awaken a man who pretends to be asleep."

[RWK]

So you guys not see the trend? It matters not, apparently, the president: the foreign policy does not change. Not very easily, any way.

The trend is natural resources. If it weren't for the natural resources, we likely wouldn't have anything to do with them. See Saudi Arabia before the discovery of the oil reserves.

[Mjolnir]

The trend is natural resources. If it weren't for the natural resources, we likely wouldn't have anything to do with them. See Saudi Arabia before the discovery of the oil reserves.

You nailed it, brother!


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"One cannot awaken a man who pretends to be asleep."

[Honu]

Look how he bows to other leaders etc...
Nothing I dont expect when his administration loves Mao and other dictators etc...

[SeriousStudent]

Get a blog.

I'll second this motion.

If the majority of your posts are always in General Discussion, why not start a blog?

[SteyrAUG]

I'll second this motion.

If the majority of your posts are always in General Discussion, why not start a blog?


In my case because I'm not just interested in posting what I think but I'm just as interested in getting feedback and opinions from those who I have a level of respect for and can offer perspectives I may not have considered.

In short this is one of the few forums where I can actually have an intelligent discussion on certain topics.

[montanadave]

In my case because I'm not just interested in posting what I think but I'm just as interested in getting feedback and opinions from those who I have a level of respect for and can offer perspectives I may not have considered.

In short this is one of the few forums where I can actually have an intelligent discussion on certain topics.

I appreciate your position. However, you've undoubtedly seen a handful of members come and go that use GD almost exclusively as a forum in which to post articles or links espousing a particulary uberpartisan or ideologically-driven position.

There's no desire on their part for discussion which, by definition, implies an open dialogue and informal debate of the topic raised. They are firmly entrenched and seek only the confirmation of their position by like-minded individuals. Preachers to the choir, if you will. And voices of dissent are set upon with derision and denigration by the faithful.

Such threads are unproductive and divisive to the M4C community.

[Denali]

I appreciate your position. However, you've undoubtedly seen a handful of members come and go that use GD almost exclusively as a forum in which to post articles or links espousing a particulary uberpartisan or ideologically-driven position.

There's no desire on their part for discussion which, by definition, implies an open dialogue and informal debate of the topic raised. They are firmly entrenched and seek only the confirmation of their position by like-minded individuals. Preachers to the choir, if you will. And voices of dissent are set upon with derision and denigration by the faithful.

Such threads are unproductive and divisive to the M4C community.

Who are you to tell us(me), that I or anyone else for that matter, post in one sub-forum more than you personally like, or that we(me)should get a blog because you don't like the material, or the quantity of it?

Nobody, and I mean nobody is holding a gun to your head, you don't have to be here, in this thread, at all! Your post comes across as petty, and mean spirited, to say the least.

This forum reaches out to thousands of young active duty service members, and that's precisely the reason I post to it, ensuring that these young men & women are exposed to the real news, and the real issues awaiting them upon their return to the world. I'm a USN veteran, I spent eight years in the USN, almost half of that time deployed at sea, Not that its any of your concern, but I frequent many areas of this forum, sometimes posting to them, and sometimes not...

The material I post to this sub-forum is topical, and highly relevant, its also quite likely that its the only exposure to such high quality op ed's, many of these young folks have, at all!

So, you don't like the material, or myself, why not just move along, God knows that this wonderful little sub-forum doesn't lack for diversity, I'm more than positive that I have not violated a single written rule by posting to it, or the manner in which I do....Thank you very much...

[SteyrAUG]

I appreciate your position. However, you've undoubtedly seen a handful of members come and go that use GD almost exclusively as a forum in which to post articles or links espousing a particulary uberpartisan or ideologically-driven position.

There's no desire on their part for discussion which, by definition, implies an open dialogue and informal debate of the topic raised. They are firmly entrenched and seek only the confirmation of their position by like-minded individuals. Preachers to the choir, if you will. And voices of dissent are set upon with derision and denigration by the faithful.

Such threads are unproductive and divisive to the M4C community.

Such threads, and indeed users, are easily ignored.

I get what you are saying. There are those who basically function as a link "reporter" (often from very biased sources) in the hopes of whipping up some resentment.

But sometimes somebody "preachers to the choir" in a way that expresses it better than anyone else. So I don't really mind that stuff either.

[The_War_Wagon]

Birds of a feather? :o

[TehLlama]

Turds of a feather.

[SeriousStudent]

Who are you to tell us(me), that I or anyone else for that matter, post in one sub-forum more than you personally like, or that we(me)should get a blog because you don't like the material, or the quantity of it?

Nobody, and I mean nobody is holding a gun to your head, you don't have to be here, in this thread, at all! Your post comes across as petty, and mean spirited, to say the least.

This forum reaches out to thousands of young active duty service members, and that's precisely the reason I post to it, ensuring that these young men & women are exposed to the real news, and the real issues awaiting them upon their return to the world. I'm a USN veteran, I spent eight years in the USN, almost half of that time deployed at sea, Not that its any of your concern, but I frequent many areas of this forum, sometimes posting to them, and sometimes not...

The material I post to this sub-forum is topical, and highly relevant, its also quite likely that its the only exposure to such high quality op ed's, many of these young folks have, at all!

So, you don't like the material, or myself, why not just move along, God knows that this wonderful little sub-forum doesn't lack for diversity, I'm more than positive that I have not violated a single written rule by posting to it, or the manner in which I do....Thank you very much...

You can also lower your temperature, you are about a millimeter away from getting points for personal attacks.

That is a written rule, and you are in danger of exceeding it. That's something I'm positive of.

Bloggers has some pretty substantial audiences. Just look at Matt Drudge or the late Andrew Breitbart. You want to reach an audience, good for you. A blog can do that.

But at the end of the day, this is a technical forum about the AR family of weapons. It's not a political forum. Every time the staff debates killing GD, threads like this this and posts like the one one I am quoting right now are ammo for killing it.

You are not the only veteran on this forum or this thread, you're not the only one with a point of view. You are also not a victim, unless you chose that role for yourself.

If you want a pulpit, get one. But someone other than you pays for the bandwidth here. So keep that in mind, and dial back the rhetoric.

[SeriousStudent]

In my case because I'm not just interested in posting what I think but I'm just as interested in getting feedback and opinions from those who I have a level of respect for and can offer perspectives I may not have considered.

In short this is one of the few forums where I can actually have an intelligent discussion on certain topics.

I have zero problems with you, and I make a point of reading your threads. I've learned a ton about the HK systems, and we share many of the same tastes in books.

The challenge this forum has, is when we have a small number of people that start threads that they pretty much know are going to go off the track. And I'm not talking about Bushmaster versus Olympic Arms, or "why do pepuls hatez my Keltec".

[SteyrAUG]

I have zero problems with you, and I make a point of reading your threads. I've learned a ton about the HK systems, and we share many of the same tastes in books.

The challenge this forum has, is when we have a small number of people that start threads that they pretty much know are going to go off the track. And I'm not talking about Bushmaster versus Olympic Arms, or "why do pepuls hatez my Keltec".

Well keep in mind that it is easy for me to say the following because it is NOT my forum and I'm NOT paying the bills.

But with that extra objectivity I don't think any topic threatens any forum. I think how the topic is treated can threaten the forum. Religion and politics are traditionally the hot buttons and as a result are favorite forum subjects (if we don't feel like talking about LEOs on that given day).

So somebody comes along and posts a "Obama did this today and it is going to destroy the world" thread. So long as people respond by:

A. Ignoring yet another Obama thread, especially if from a dubious source.
B. Challenging the notion in a manner that is acceptable for the COC on this forum.
C. Agreeing with the statement but keeping within the acceptable COC for this forum.

Everything is fine until somebody calls somebody else a stupid dickface and threats ensue.

But the problem isn't the Obama topic, or the religious topics or the recent run of "homosexuals did this" topics, the problem is that some people cannot discuss these things without violating the CoC and calling somebody a dickface.

There was a time we couldn't have any LE related topics either supportive or critical because some guys just couldn't have that discussion without calling somebody a dickface.

Now there are without a doubt some topics that challenges everyone's ability to keep it civil. Start talking about my rights as if they are something I need to qualify for, suggest my dogs are only "property" and that I am not allowed to defend them and a few other choice subjects and I have to try very hard to state my position in a clear and civil manner and then avoid the rest of the discussion as much as possible.

We all have a "hot button" issue sooner or later.

But we also have a mostly tight crew. And through the course of discussion we get to know each other. So if the topic is "what the cops did in AZ today that wasn't a high water mark for LE success" and Alaskapopo is "sharing his views" I have to take the time (hopefully) to think about what I say and try and express it in a way where he can understand where I'm coming from even if he might not completely agree with my position.

And that is because despite the fact that we sometimes disagree on some key issues, I have more respect for him than many of the people I deal with face to face on a given day.

Even though I've never met most of the members of this forum, I actually have a higher opinion of them than some of my blood relatives. And it would be a damn shame if GD had to go back to a "restricted/monitored" forum because a few guys can't discuss a "hot button" issue without calling somebody a dickface.

[SeriousStudent]

And SteyrAUG, I agree with you. I'm a moderator, not a censor. Trust me, there are large numbers of threads I view that I completely disagree with, and never post in. Because the discussion and debate remains civil.

My red pencil comes out when people throw chum in the water, and then get surprised when the shark jumps in the boat and want some more.

I have a very simple code of conduct I use when I post. I don't put anything in a thread I would not say to a person's face while they held a loaded gun in their hand. Makes things real simple.

Happy Independence Day to you and your family. I hope you have a great time BBQ'ing with the Brazilian volleyball team next door. ;)

[SteyrAUG]

And SteyrAUG, I agree with you. I'm a moderator, not a censor. Trust me, there are large numbers of threads I view that I completely disagree with, and never post in. Because the discussion and debate remains civil.

My red pencil comes out when people throw chum in the water, and then get surprised when the shark jumps in the boat and want some more.

I have a very simple code of conduct I use when I post. I don't put anything in a thread I would not say to a person's face while they held a loaded gun in their hand. Makes things real simple.

Happy Independence Day to you and your family. I hope you have a great time BBQ'ing with the Brazilian volleyball team next door. ;)

Just so we are clear, I have no problem with the moderation we have seen of late. It's a much improved situation over what we have had in the past.

I've seen a few topics get locked where I felt it was unfortunate because some of us were having a civilized discussion, but I did understand why they got locked.

Have a good 4th.