View Full Version : How do we feel about Egyptian Maadi AKs?
I was thinking about getting back into 7.62 AKs. Most nicer guns are over $1k now, and the Century WASRs are around $600. I thought a Maadi might be an acceptable middle ground. I don't know much about them, but a site search reveals sub-awesome accuracy. Was this a batch problem or long running? Any other issues? Atlantic Firearms has them for $889
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/maadifix.jpg
here is a link to a recent thread: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=130283
Thanks! Just what I needed. I guess I might spend $60 more on a Polish underfolder instead.
I was inquiring about getting a Maadi from Atlantic a few years back. They were the rudest pricks, of any business, I had ever dealt with.
That's just my sample of one. Take it with a grain of salt.
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Keep in mind Maadi's come in several flavors.
Pre 89 Steyr imports, post 89 Sporters and CAI imports with CAI 922r compliance parts.
Generally Maadi's are built on Russian equipment and used to be as close to a true Russian AKM as you could get.
Even the CAI imports with their crap grade 922 compliance parts are pretty decent rifles, especially if you swap out the FCG for something like a Tapco G2 setup.
They are night an day superior to any WASR that has a converted magazine well, they were imported to accept a high capacity even though they shipped with a short low capacity magazine.
They are generally a few grades above the old Romanian SAR rifles (and really those aren't too bad) but with both you have to watch out for canted sights (front and back) which can be a problem with any AK.
I even remember some Arsenal rifles with canted sights that people were complaining about.
ETA: Looks like we have a new flavor of Maadis and it doesn't look like anything more than a parts kit gun with a US made barrel. Pass.
I'm with Steyr on this. Just wait a little longer and get an SGL-21 or another Arsenal variant if you can. They can be had used for not much more than one of the Atlantic Maadi's. The US barrels they use aren't going to be as durable as a foreign unit, and getting a problematic parts kit gun serviced by their contractor might be a hassle. Not that Arsenal's CS is a dream to deal with, but I've heard they usually come through. I build my own, so I don't have any direct experience with their CS.
TakeAwayTheFear
07-10-13, 20:28
The underfolder would be cool but ive hesrd they are really uncomfortable to shoot.
Id recommend an arsenal sgl21. I have an sgl31 and its been nothing short of perfection!
Kalash9305
07-11-13, 23:02
The underfolder would be cool but ive hesrd they are really uncomfortable to shoot.
Id recommend an arsenal sgl21. I have an sgl31 and its been nothing short of perfection!
I have both ( SGL's ) ..... and you're right. They are perfect. Both of them.
I have both ( SGL's ) ..... and you're right. They are perfect. Both of them.
Yeah, my 5.45 AK is an Arsenal, and it's pretty much unstoppable.
Guess I'll start saving my pennies. Thanks, guys.
IMO build over buy
I have used a bunch of different AK's from a bunch of different countries OCONUS and CONUS and I always revert back to what I see as the primary issue with the AK platform.
Milled vs. Stamped receivers
Now in a crisis (financial even) I will use whatever. But having used some of the absolute shittiest AK's made by slave labor in pakistan or a nice milled Russian example, the receivers made all the difference. I've shot maadi's as well and they didnt suck but if you ever get a chance to shoot a czech made AK do it.
If it is going to be mine I would much rather build one. Not unlike AR's you can build a quality gun that meets and exceeds your expectations for less money.
I know lancaster makes AK milled receivers but I can not attest to the quality
IMO build over buy
I have used a bunch of different AK's from a bunch of different countries OCONUS and CONUS and I always revert back to what I see as the primary issue with the AK platform.
Milled vs. Stamped receivers
Now in a crisis (financial even) I will use whatever. But having used some of the absolute shittiest AK's made by slave labor in pakistan or a nice milled Russian example, the receivers made all the difference. I've shot maadi's as well and they didnt suck but if you ever get a chance to shoot a czech made AK do it.
If it is going to be mine I would much rather build one. Not unlike AR's you can build a quality gun that meets and exceeds your expectations for less money.
I know lancaster makes AK milled receivers but I can not attest to the quality
In regard to the Czech AK, do you mean a VZ58?
As for building instead of buying, I can't recommend that unless the OP really wants to take on the necessary challenges that are required to do it properly. The tools aren't cheap, and if you end up going with a third party builder you will spend as much if not more than buying a commercially produced rifle. I LOVE building my own. It's my hobby, my escape. I wouldn't trade it for anything. But that said, it's not for everybody.
I too am a fan of milled receivers, and I have several Lancaster units. They're good receivers after some work, but their CS has been extremely frustrating for some customers in the past. At this time, I'd look at CNC Warrior for milled receivers, or perhaps Firing Line in Oklahoma. The CNCW units are pretty good, but all of the milled receivers I've gotten have needed some level of work before being right. That's just par for the course, though. Part of the process.
Unless the OP has a keen interest and extra financial resources I'd still go with Steyr's suggestion and purchase an SGL or other Arsenal variant. Just my opinion, nothing more.
Good luck,
P.
OK,
I thought about this and I knew the really nice AK the ANA had were made in eastern europe. I thought they said it was czech. Maybe croatian? bulgarian? I knew the russian ones because of the cyrillic lettering but it was different it had roman lettering and was not stamped.
but it was one of the nicest AK's I had seen (regardless of the colored electrical tape) It had no slop at all in any of it and shot smooth as glass. I wanted to steal it really bad.
Sorry for talking out of my ass, I honestly thought it was czech and it was not a VZ 58 i know that.
That aside I also kind of take the ability to smith and having access to a press for granted some times.
but I still think that paying extra for a milled receiver is worth it
sundance435
07-14-13, 20:57
OK,
I thought about this and I knew the really nice AK the ANA had were made in eastern europe. I thought they said it was czech. Maybe croatian? bulgarian? I knew the russian ones because of the cyrillic lettering but it was different it had roman lettering and was not stamped.
but it was one of the nicest AK's I had seen (regardless of the colored electrical tape) It had no slop at all in any of it and shot smooth as glass. I wanted to steal it really bad.
Sorry for talking out of my ass, I honestly thought it was czech and it was not a VZ 58 i know that.
That aside I also kind of take the ability to smith and having access to a press for granted some times.
but I still think that paying extra for a milled receiver is worth it
IIRC, the ANA AK's were new Bulgarian contract guns.
My buddy has one and he seems to like it just fine. I've shot it a couple times and it doesn't seem to be any better than my WASR10. Even a cheap AK is reliable in my opinion.
Thanks for the replies.
I opted for a BCM 16" BFH LW upper and a NSR-13.5 handguard instead. :D
I'll get back into the AK market when things even out a bit more.
Glock Holiday
08-18-13, 09:15
...Generally Maadi's are built on Russian equipment and used to be as close to a true Russian AKM as you could get.
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M67A2 Zippo Tank
08-18-13, 15:17
In 1998, I purchased an MISR-90. Parts breakage issues, jamming, and over heating. In 2001, I traded it for an excellent SKS which I still have. In 2007, I acquired a WASR-10. Totally reliable, no overheating, and no parts breakage issues, too.
The modifications I made to it: TAPCO Galil-style hand-guard, K-VAR heat shield, and an adjustable ghost ring ladder sight. Therefore, I donot recommend the MISR-90. Maadi, how good is that?
Atlantic advertises chrome lined barrels: are these really US made?
Atlantic advertises chrome lined barrels: are these really US made?
Yes. The kits they are bringing in have cut barrels.
Just put together a Maadi. Well, mostly a Maadi.... I wasn't too happy with the fit of the selector and top cover so I swapped those out, and a few other parts. Some other non-standard parts on this one as well. The machining quality of the Egyptian parts was only ok in my opinion. East German parts have the best machining quality that I've seen thus far, but these were only so-so in comparison. Rifle should be a good shooter though.
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