Remington M4A1 contract termination

[Slater]

https://contracting.tacom.army.mil/confls/awd/W56HZV12D0056000101/0000.pdf

The above appears to be the official notification of Remington's contract cancellation. It says "for the convienience of the government". Anyone know the scoop behind this?

[Skyyr]

https://contracting.tacom.army.mil/confls/awd/W56HZV12D0056000101/0000.pdf

The above appears to be the official notification of Remington's contract cancellation. It says "for the convienience of the government". Anyone know the scoop behind this?

The probably saw the chart and where Remington was placed on it. :D

[ScatmanCrothers]

Was that the contract they underbid Colt on?

[_Stormin_]

"For the convenience of the government" appears to be one of the greatest reasons for cancelation ever.

"Because I said so..."

[Freedoooom]

So they got the production capacity to build a lot of AR-15s.

Do you guys think Freedom Group is run by smart enough people who will sell to civilians at a high profit margin and cannot keep up with demand or strenuously try to sell to police at a low profit margin?

[Failure2Stop]

https://contracting.tacom.army.mil/confls/awd/W56HZV12D0056000101/0000.pdf

The above appears to be the official notification of Remington's contract cancellation. It says "for the convienience of the government". Anyone know the scoop behind this?

I can't access the link, but I'm 95% sure that this is the contract that FN underbid following the revelation of bids during the protest.

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[PatrioticDisorder]

Considering what the demand of a Remington ACR would be if they would just sell to civilians, I'd say that company is run by a bunch of idiots. I'm pretty sure most people would prefer a Remington ACR vs. a SCAR 16s as an alternative 5.56 rifle. Instead they let Bushmaster sell an abortion of the rifle to civilians which hardly anyone wants, go figure.

[alpha.kilo]

I had heard rumors of this about two weeks ago. This form is dated May 17. Looks legit.

But honestly, is anyone surprised at this? I couldn't believe they got the contract in the first place.

[Grand58742]

I can't access the link, but I'm 95% sure that this is the contract that FN underbid following the revelation of bids during the protest.

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Basically under the modification section, it says "we aren't paying you any more"


MODIFICATION 01
PURPOSE OF THIS MODIFICATION: TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE OF THE GOVERNMENT
PREVIOUS CONTRACT AMOUNT: $16,163,252.07
AMOUNT OF THIS MODIFICATION: $14,497,329.57 (DECREASE)
CURRENT CONTRACT AMOUNT: $1,665,922.50

Notice of Termination for Convenience: You are hereby notified that Contract W56HZV-12-D-0056 Delivery Order 01 dated 20 April 2012 is terminated as to the remaining quantity of 24,000 each and M4A1 First Article Test on this contract pursuant to the General Provision of the contract entitled Termination for Convenience of the Government (Fixed-Price). This provision states that the performance of work under this contract may at the convenience or option of the Government be terminated by the Government, in whole or in part, whenever any such termination is determined to be for the best interest of the Government, and that the Contractor and Contracting Officer may agree upon the whole, or any part of the amount or amounts to be paid to the Contractor by reason of such termination.

The Delivery Order is terminated as follows:
ITEM TERMINATED QUANTITY REMAINING QUANTITY
0004AA 2,475 ea 0
0004AB 19,261 ea 0
0004AC 2,264 ea 0
0008AA 1 ea 0

The Government has no obligation to make further payments or to carry out other undertakings in connection with this terminated contract, and the Government acknowledges that the contractor has no obligation to perform further work or service or to make further deliveries of articles or materials under the contract, provided, that nothing herein contained shall impair or affect in any way other terms or conditions of the contract.

[Stickman]

With all of the conflicts and funding ending, I don't see this as much of a shock.

[Failure2Stop]

Basically under the modification section, it says "we aren't paying you any more"

I'm pretty sure that this is simply the official response following the re-bid resulting from the protest. Nothing new.

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[Grand58742]

I'm pretty sure that this is simply the official response following the re-bid resulting from the protest. Nothing new.

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Yeah, I figured it was the government finally getting around to the official paperwork, albeit a little late, for Remington.

From what I understand, there are about 5,000 Remington marked M4s out there now. Be a neat keepsake for posterity if they could be snatched up.

[VIP3R 237]

Yeah, I figured it was the government finally getting around to the official paperwork, albeit a little late, for Remington.

From what I understand, there are about 5,000 Remington marked M4s out there now. Be a neat keepsake for posterity if they could be snatched up.

I wonder if they are this model or the more traditional design

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Jason_Prisbrey/IMG_20130116_140915_zpscd2600e3.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Jason_Prisbrey/IMG_20130116_140412_zps53639c60.jpg

[RHINOWSO]

The government is notoriously slow in doling out the paperwork and yes they can call and cancel most things pretty quick. Heck, they usually just send you an email!

It's the nature of the business and often built into the cost of a contract (aka, the risk of doing business with them).

[Auto426]

I wonder if they are this model or the more traditional design

Since they were contracted to build M4A1 carbines, I'd imagine they were basic carbines that look just like every other M4A1 in the Army with the exception of the roll mark on the side.

[sinlessorrow]

Since they were contracted to build M4A1 carbines, I'd imagine they were basic carbines that look just like every other M4A1 in the Army with the exception of the roll mark on the side.

Also ambi safety. I know the 101st got the first batch.....they may have got the only batch.

This is the response to the rebid in which FN won. Funny thing is now FN makes the M16/M4 and Colt makes their LMG's......

[slamd095]

Thread about the re-bid a while ago. Very interesting, and typical government.

Fire..wait,..i mean Aim..er..Ready?!

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=113928

[RWH24]

"For the convenience of the government" appears to be one of the greatest reasons for cancelation ever.

"Because I said so..."
Like “Prosecutorial Discretion.....:jester:

[ndmiller]

According to the document the government is still paying for 0004AA which was for delivery of 1 rifle with payment of 1,665,922.50. That should help offset the cancellation notice a bit.

WOW, I hope all parts were staked properly at that price!!!!

Noah

[Redbeardsong]

I wonder if they are this model or the more traditional design

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Jason_Prisbrey/IMG_20130116_140915_zpscd2600e3.jpg

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u440/Jason_Prisbrey/IMG_20130116_140412_zps53639c60.jpg

Funny... I looked at the Remington M4's at SHOT show and was impressed with the features: ambi controls and recessed QD sockets in the receiver. Upon closer examination I noticed the lower was engraved "Mega". When I was at the Mega Arms booth, I asked about them making the Remington lowers, and the guy said "Really, they had those on display?! Those were prototypes we did for them!"

[SpeedRacer]

I wonder what the "0008AA" they only ordered one of is.

[Tzook]

Maybe Remington will focus on putting out a decent ACR for me to buy. That would be pretty cool. :D

[sinlessorrow]

Maybe Remington will focus on putting out a decent ACR for me to buy. That would be pretty cool. :D

Never, Remington deals with the military side. You will always have your craptastic Bushy.

[kwilkin]

Never, Remington deals with the military side. You will always have your craptastic Bushy.

LOL, exactly. Do what the government did and go with a FN.