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Steve S.
08-01-13, 00:33
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The meat of this upper is built around a Daniel Defense 14.5" Light Weight Midlength barrel w/ factory pinned low pro gas block (https://danieldefense.com/14-5-5-56mm-mid-length-1-7-lw-profile.html), Noveske upper receiver (http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2118), misc lower, Daniel Defense lower parts kit (https://danieldefense.com/lower-receiver-parts-kit-semi-auto.html), and Daniel Defense BCG (https://danieldefense.com/components-parts/upper-half/complete-bolt-carrier-group.html).

This is a newish upper on a used lower. The upper has under 500 rounds through it, so this review is more on form rather than function of each accessory. This carbine was built around being as light as possible, for personal reasons.

Midwest Industries Gen 2 SS Rail 12" (http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=450) - The Midwest Rail caught my eye because of the weight - 9.3 ounces for the 12" version (as advertised). This upper was built about 6-9 months ago, so the rail game has changed a bit since with the popularity of KeyMod - but at the time it was one of the lightest aluminum rails on the market.

The rail is crazy light. That was my first thought upon receiving it. Coming from mostly quad rails, the latest being a Daniel Defense Omega X FSP, I appreciated the extra weight shavings.

The diameter of the rail is extremely small. By choking the rail out front, this allows great muzzle control and reduces muzzle flip.

I just recently received the rail panel kit. It's done perfectly - I wouldn't change a thing.... except possibly add a little more texturing.

One thing I really like is how the M1913 sections screw directly into the rail. No mounts or converters to deal with - just holes along the rail to allow direct attachment. Obviously the rail panels add weight and bulk, so the goal was to not use as many as possible and utilize the top rail.

I did end up using one of the small included rail sections, simply because it has a built in rotation limited QD sling mount. Mount n Slot offers a more lightweight, streamlined version for this rail... and I will pick it up eventually.

Installation was very easy, and including a wrench was much appreciated.

Anyone who thinks Midwest Industries is producing low quality items is crazy, because this thing is machined and marked perfectly.

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^^Easily activate light
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Battle Comp 1.5 (http://battlecomp.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=12) - I don't have a ton of experience with other compensators, but the Battle Comp works as advertised. It's a nice balance of compensating and flash hiding. Muzzle flip is minimal, especially when utilizing the skinny forend. I've noticed all Battle Comps have a distinctive "thump". It's not terribly louder than an A2... but distinct. Not nearly as offensive to shoot next to as some Surefire brakes I've been around.

What I like about the BC1.5" is how easy it made pinning to the barrel. It comes ready to go - a nice touch.

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Unity Tactical Fusion Front Sight Hub / Ring Mount (http://www.unitytactical.com/products/fusion/) - This accessory, next to the rail, is what had me most excited. I love it. The concept of making a modular front mount is genius. It allows me to run what I need directly to the front of the carbine's top rail.

I opted for the folding front sight and 6P / Fury ring mount. The sight can be installed as either fixed or folding - a neat feature. For this carbine I currently am running a TR24 - so I kept it folding. I really liked that the ring mount can go on either side of the front sight - keeping it nice and tight at 11 or 1 o'clock. There's barely any clearance between the light and the front sight.... perfection.

Works wonderfully with the KAC 300M Micro Rear Sight (http://www.knightarmco.com/portfolio/micro-rear-flip-sight/).

While the Fusion is a little pricey, considering it's a top notch front sight and integrates tons of accessories from PEQs to WMLs to Handhelds (check their website), I think it's a pretty good deal. I believe the owner is a member, who's posts I've followed for years.

Finishing on all parts is top notch. The anodizing seems to match the Govt Dark Earth used on the Daniel Defense rails - a more "bronzy" dark earth.

Packaged nicely with easy to follow instructions.

Modularity is the future of gunfighting, IMO.

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^^Previous Gear Sector mount placed light too far back.

Umbrella Corporation Grip / untextured (http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3292)- This was given as a gift from a close friend. While I haven't gotten around to stippling it yet, I like that you can order them plain to do so yourself. It's a nice nod to the hardcore shooting community.

The angle and "girth" of the grip is perfect. Not too skinny, not too wide - just right. The pistol-like angle is preferred, as the A2 grip never seemed to feel comfortable. While other offerings were better, it never really addressed the angle properly IMO.

Storage isn't an importance for me. There's nothing I'd need to store on the carbine that's worth adding weight to it, IMO.

For an inexpensive grip, I will look no further in the future.

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B5 Bravo Sopmod Stock (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/B5-Systems-SOPMOD-BRAVO-Milspec-Stock-Black-p/b5(1082)system-bravo-stock-blk.htm) - I went from a Magpul MOE to a Magpul STR on this carbine (and the last upper the lower was on). While I loved the STR - I'm not one to store things on the carbine (as mentioned). So when the B5 Bravo was announced - I really wanted to try one based on the weight savings. 4+ ounces off the back is nothing to scoff at when the front of the rifle is lightweight.

It has that comfortable cheek weld like the SOPMOD, VLTOR, and STR stocks, but is a good deal lighter than the competition. Fit is snug and the finish is great.

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Honorable Mentions (that have been around awhile) -

The Trijicon TR24 (https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TR24) is a great all around optic - if a little heavy. The weight savings of this build allowed me to comfortably run this 1-4x optic.

The LaRue mount (http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-sprm4-193-mount-qd-lt-135) is extremely solid, and when taking the optic off - I've noticed no shift in zero (at least not that I can discern in my shooting).

The Noveske upper receiver (http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2118) is the best finished stripped upper I've ever purchased. The laser markings are beautifully crisp and clear. This lower was always tight on other uppers, but fits perfectly on this Noveske upper. The finish is a deep black without looking glossy. All threads looked perfect. I don't think I'll buy another brand stripped upper receiver again.

The BCM Gunfighter (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-GUNFIGHTER-Charging-Handle-GFH-Mod-4-p/bcm%20gfh%20mod%204%20556.htm) has been reviewed extensively. If you have the extra bucks to upgrade - it's well worth it.

This Daniel Defense BCG (https://danieldefense.com/components-parts/upper-half/complete-bolt-carrier-group.html) has saved me from needing the above Gunfighter charging handle. It's got a few thousand rounds through it without issue. It was carried over from a previous upper.

Conclusion - - This build turned out exactly as I'd wanted. It's a system built around what I was looking for. Future upgrades include the Mount and Slot QD Sling mount (http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/qd-rotation-limited-mount-n-slot-for-jpi-inc-viking-tactics-inc-vtac/) to further streamline the rail - though I want to verify it works for the Gen 2 SS rail.

I also have a Trijicon SRS (http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product1.php?id=SRS) on order, but am debating using an RMR06 (http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product2.php?id=RMR&mid=Adjustable%20LED) (what the Glock is rocking in the pics) to further keep the weight down. The cons of the RMR on a carbine may be outweighed by the weight savings... and folks like Pat MAC seem to like their RMRs on carbines.

I know it's the Indian and not the Arrow... but sometimes a straighter flying Arrow helps. This "arrow" has been a huge improvement. It's over 2 lbs lighter than my previous go-to carbine, and I make the accessories work for me in an ergonomically sound way so that I can focus on getting hits.

Weight WITHOUT Optic / Mag - 5 Pounds 9 Ounces
Weight with TR24 - 7 Pounds 12 Ounces
Weight without Optic or Light - 5 Pounds 3 Ounces

* Weights done with Electronic USPS Postal Scale

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** Sorry for the crappy pics... I'm no photographer.

Colemanator
08-01-13, 15:01
Very nice build! I have the same rail, and I love it!

VIP3R 237
08-01-13, 15:13
Great review.

I agree with the MI rails, they are very well made products now and IMO compete with some of the best.

I am also a fan of the B5 bravo and the Umbrella Grip. For the price these are the best accessories on the market.

jaxman7
08-01-13, 19:43
Steve,

Excellent write up. The MI rail really is under rated. One thing on your list I haven't tried out/have. The B5, but will some day soon hopefully.

The Unity hub & its accessories really is great kit. I recently did a review of some of their parts and hopefully will be finishing up another review of 2 more pieces next weekend.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=129588&page=2

Off topic bud but I also have a DD CHF 14.5 LW barrel and will be putting a variable on that rifle soon. Looking forward to seeing that POI shift after dumping a mag or 2 through the gun. Trident touched on it slightly in his review of the barrel. Have you done any tests yourself?

-Jax

Steve S.
08-01-13, 20:28
I admittedly haven't pushed it that hard - with the ammo situation it's almost painful to mag dump without some sort of drill requiring it.

With 3-5 round strings, I haven't noticed any issues. Trident shoots a lot further than me, and does a lot of supported fire. Speaking of, is he still around?

To anyone reading - Jax is referring to the barrel heating up and changing Point of Impact because the skinny barrel is heated up.

A lot of people ran the M16A1, SCAR-L, etc hard and never even noticed the POI shift. From what i understand, you really need to get the barrel cooking... and it's still within Minute Of Butthole if it shifts. But, I can't say one way or another at this point... but I knew about it going into the build - without being worried too much. Heats up fast = cools down fast.

I don't do a lot of long gun shooting as I focus heavily on pistol, but in my unprofessional opinion, this barrel seems just as accurate as any stainless barrel I've shot. The upper it's replacing was one of the button rifled Daniel Defense barrels, and the improvement of going CHF was immediately noticed.

I started this build just prior to Sandy Hook. I have another matching barrel to build a back up, but sourcing parts for this one was enough of a headache. I do have all the critical components, and I'm having a hard time deviating from the parts used on this build. Might end up with two identical carbines as originally intended. I wish the ammo situation would turn around faster. I was pretty set on 9mm, but admittedly way unprepared with 5.56.

jaxman7
08-01-13, 20:35
Thanks for the reply Steve. If you get around to it post up your grouping results. Whenever I get that rifle finally all put together I'll do the same. Apologies for the thread drift.

-Jax

CQC.45
08-01-13, 20:57
That setup looks vaguely familiar.... :)

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As Steve knows, I have almost the exact same setup with the exception of the optic. The more I run the RMR, the more I like it as a primary optic, especially with the ability to both manually adjust and auto adjust the brightness to ambient light. Unlike in the picture, i am now running it in a lower 1/3 mount which makes the setup even better.

I dont know if there is much I can add on to what Steve already touched on, as I completely agree with all of it. The Umbrella grip in particular has been one of the biggest game changers for me (especially for such a inexpensive piece of kit). The angle allows for a much more comfortable placement of the wrist, especially when wearing plates. The width is perfect (about the same as a MOE grip), and I stipple all of my own plastic anyways so it worked out for me there. It also aids when supporting the rifle one-handed such as reloading, dropping to prone, or any other situation when your support hand is being used for something else.

Regarding the stippling, I do prefer the treebark style, however after experimenting with several different methods I have found that vertical treebark on the sides and horizontal treebark on the front and back strap provides the most secure grip.

The upper and lower are both forged and from Umbrella as well. The fit is excellent and the cereakote is holding up very well. Other than that, no issues to report.

The barrel is a DD lite middy 14.5" with a BC, very accurate for a CL barrel (I can get 2 MOA when I do my part with good ammo), and soft shooting (no surprise).

B5 Bravo keeps the gun very light and gives a good cheekweld. The angled butt is a huge improvement over the SOPMOD IMO.

Everything else Steve touched on is spot on.

That's all off of the top of my head. Very happy with this setup.

levik97
08-01-13, 21:01
I think you did a great job with the pics! Out of curiosity, why did put covers on the rail? That seems to defeat the purpose of a tube rail. This is completely out of curiosity. I'm not at all saying its wrong. Thanks! And great review!

Levi

Steve S.
08-01-13, 21:13
That setup looks vaguely familiar.... :)

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Your light is on the wrong side... ;-)

CQC has the cooler version of my blaster.



I think you did a great job with the pics! Out of curiosity, why did put covers on the rail? That seems to defeat the purpose of a tube rail. This is completely out of curiosity. I'm not at all saying its wrong. Thanks! And great review!

Levi

Good question. Thanks... I'm no Stickman...

Covers are three fold - adds a heat shield since your hand is so close to the skinny barrel. Also allows some texture for grip. Finally, allows a nice, low profile, lightweight handstop.

I love the rail panel kit. I wanted one as soon as I seen this rail (didn't exist then). When I seen the completed version - it was exactly what I'd wanted. Very KAC-esque with a better angled handstop (IMO).

The material is a polymer similar to PMags and such, so it should stipple nicely.

@ Jax - No thread drift at all - very relevant. I'll definitely keep the thread posted with some groups at different temperatures. I'm not the type who gets attached to non living things, so I'm pretty honest in results - good, bad, and ugly. Do you have a link to Tridents thread? I remember reading it awhile back - it was excellent.

jaxman7
08-01-13, 21:18
I think you did a great job with the pics! Out of curiosity, why did put covers on the rail? That seems to defeat the purpose of a tube rail. This is completely out of curiosity. I'm not at all saying its wrong. Thanks! And great review!

Levi

Shoot with that tube and the reasons are clear. Where is the flaming smiley emoticon. ;)

-Jax

Steve S.
08-01-13, 21:20
I do have a question...

I'll probably put a Fury back on this, but is anyone else concerned if the 6P will stand up to being ran inline with the BattleComp? Anyone have any experience running a 6P next to a comp? As you can see, it was just recently put there.

I don't even remember if the 6P is technically a weapon light - though it seems like it is when shook.

jaxman7
08-01-13, 21:20
Steve, here is Trident's thread:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=111488

-Jax

Steve S.
08-01-13, 21:22
Shoot with that tube and the reasons are clear. Where is the flaming smiley emoticon. ;)

-Jax

It gets toasty. Before the panel kit, I'd seen pics of folks doing a paracord wrap online. It looked silly... but I was considering it after shooting this combo.

Thanks for the link!

levik97
08-01-13, 21:30
Shoot with that tube and the reasons are clear. Where is the flaming smiley emoticon. ;)

-Jax

Interesting and thank you. Do you know if the Troy VTAC Alpha rail does the same thing?

Levi

jaxman7
08-01-13, 21:36
Interesting and thank you. Do you know if the Troy VTAC Alpha rail does the same thing?

Levi

VERY limited use with VTAC. I would assume it wouldn't heat up as fast because it is wider than the MI but cannot truly say. As far as the additional width added by panels I actually like the feel of my NSR better with panels on than not. I do have rather large hands though.

-Jax

levik97
08-01-13, 21:40
Thanks again jaxman!

Levi

jaxman7
08-01-13, 21:45
You're welcome.

goteron
08-01-13, 22:04
Great review and nice gun!

Its crazy you posted this. We built one of the employees here a rifle JUST like it.

Same rail, grip, stock, barrel, mount. Only difference was the optic.

Please let me know how FUSION continues to work out for you.

Thanks

Steve S.
08-01-13, 22:52
Great review and nice gun!

Its crazy you posted this. We built one of the employees here a rifle JUST like it.

Same rail, grip, stock, barrel, mount. Only difference was the optic.

Please let me know how FUSION continues to work out for you.

Thanks

Goteron,

I thought it was your company. You probably don't remember but I'd talked to you a couple years back about buying your broken X400 you sacrificed for weapon light knowledge (awesome thread).

The Fusion is the newest accessory on the weapon, coming from a fixed front and Gear Sector offset mount before that. Not to take anything away from Trusty and his mounts (they're great pieces of kit) but I LOVE the Fusion. Granted - I haven't had a ton of time with it, but the modularity concept is genius. You guys did great work on it.

What kind of optic did your employee go with, out of curiosity? The TR24, while an amazing optic, isn't what I'm looking for and is temporary. I recently sold an XPS2 and have an SRS ordered, but might cancel it for an RMR06. Maybe pick up another XPS as a back up to have zero'd in the bag.

Not at all pulling a "my blaster is the best because its mine" but this combination of parts is perfect for what I'm looking for. I'll change the optic and put a Fury back on. Maybe for the back up build put a suppressor-ready muzzle device on it. That's about it though. Not to be too dramatic, but this feels more like a system rather than a build. I put a lot of thought into the layout to stay light without sacrificing anything. Lots of looking over numbers and comparing.

If yourself or anyone at Unity needs anything from my company or myself - don't hesitate to shoot me a PM, brother.

Steve S.
08-01-13, 23:48
I'd also like to have a custom case made so I can carry it and some essentials.

Michigan allows a loaded mag in the weapon - and chambered - if its in pieces. Removing the upper from the lower counts as pieces. **

If I had a soft case made up in 1' x 2' size, only deep enough to fit the width of the carbine - it would be perfect. It would look almost like a keyboard case or double length laptop case. Make it a grey and orange to look "civilian sporty".

Being so thin, I could have shoulder straps put on, and throw a backpack or other shoulder bag on top of it to help hide it if walking around with it.

Plan B is the Larue soft case. I kind of liked the first generation version more though.

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** This is not to be taken as legal advice.

morpheus6d9
08-02-13, 01:09
Wow those builds look familiarhttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/02/yhe9ajyh.jpg

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goteron
08-02-13, 07:47
Goteron,

I thought it was your company. You probably don't remember but I'd talked to you a couple years back about buying your broken X400 you sacrificed for weapon light knowledge (awesome thread).

The Fusion is the newest accessory on the weapon, coming from a fixed front and Gear Sector offset mount before that. Not to take anything away from Trusty and his mounts (they're great pieces of kit) but I LOVE the Fusion. Granted - I haven't had a ton of time with it, but the modularity concept is genius. You guys did great work on it.

What kind of optic did your employee go with, out of curiosity? The TR24, while an amazing optic, isn't what I'm looking for and is temporary. I recently sold an XPS2 and have an SRS ordered, but might cancel it for an RMR06. Maybe pick up another XPS as a back up to have zero'd in the bag.

Not at all pulling a "my blaster is the best because its mine" but this combination of parts is perfect for what I'm looking for. I'll change the optic and put a Fury back on. Maybe for the back up build put a suppressor-ready muzzle device on it. That's about it though. Not to be too dramatic, but this feels more like a system rather than a build. I put a lot of thought into the layout to stay light without sacrificing anything. Lots of looking over numbers and comparing.

If yourself or anyone at Unity needs anything from my company or myself - don't hesitate to shoot me a PM, brother.

I do remember about the X400's. Cool note about Surefire, even after destroying those, they still took care of me. Can't beat that CS. I am glad you are happy with FUSION . It's great to see how other users set it up, we spent a ridiculous amount of time making sure it was as modular as possible.

Jason definitely makes some good stuff, I used those mounts for a long time.

He used a Kahles 1-6 on an Aero Precision LW mount. Then a RMR 01 on FUSION offset and Scout M600U on FUSION. No BUIS.

Its a really nice setup. This picture was taken before we mounted the RMR and light. It also was prior to mounting the Umbrella grip.

http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/goteron/null_zps893791a6.jpg

I have a very similar gun as well. Its got a Z6i, X300U, and CQBL-1, and a lot of cutting and welding on it. Ill find a picture here..

And thanks for the offer. Same goes for you guys.

Case... Crazy you mentioned that too. PM out.

adh
10-08-13, 22:46
Sorry for the off topic queer request, but have to ask.....any chance that you have an aimpoint micro that you could mount on your AR and snap a pic. Considering a very similar set up and I am a fag for wanting all my blasters to be aesthetically pleasing.

That being said, the unity tactical mount/sight is very cool....were I not already entrenched with troy sights and other mounts I'd definitely be considering one of these.




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