Jellybean
08-11-13, 12:23
Some of you may remember the thread I had previously about finding someone to do custom work for a couple DL platforms.
Well, after playing around with them some more, and pilfering the waist straps from my THE pack I've come up with a workable solution that I can do myself. Unfortunately those two borrowed straps do not provide me with enough material or hardware to get the job done.
Unfortuantelier, I have no clue what I'm looking at as far as actual type of the parts (to be explained more below) and I also have no idea where to get this stuff.
I have found a couple possible suppliers based on a list by Milspec Monkey;
(Webbing:http://milspecmonkey.com/customize/webbing)
(Hardware:http://milspecmonkey.com/customize/hardware)
It seems that Lowy USA and GSI would cover about everything (although Lowy looks much more like the "right" stuff, as far as design and material types used and I like their selection better). It seems Jones Tactical also sells webbing and parts, but not a lot of info on their site and I would need more info (hence this thread) to even ask what they offer.
HOWEVER- it seems that being actual manufacturers and distributors, there is a lot of Min. orders and Min. quantities that would need to be ordered. I'm sure most of this can't be all that expensive (right? :laugh:), but at the same time, I really don't need 200 yards of webbing and 600 sliders....
Is there any companies like those that cater to smaller orders?
HERE IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR:
Based on the description in the MSM pic/linked websites:
HARDWARE
Plastic/Metal Slide, 2"
For securing/adjusting webbing-see any BFG sling for example (Item:http://www.lowyusa.com/pl-sb200).
From experimenting, it seems having a couple metal versions in the style of the THE pack hardware (This? http://www.lowyusa.com/sl504 Or this? http://www.lowyusa.com/sl02300200) may be handy as well as it's a little more low profile. Seems like they may not hold tight as well with thin webbing though...
Plastic/Metal Loop, 2"
For securing two seperate strap assemblies (like these: http://www.lowyusa.com/pl-lp200)
WEBBING
I have absolutely no clue WTF I'm looking at here, based on pictures, and info on this seems hard to find, so I will attempt to describe what I want, and hopefully someone here will know;
Webbing Type 1; 2" width of the material that Wilderness Tactical uses for their instructor belts, OR that HSGI uses for the Cobra belt that came with the SGPB that I got.
Webbing Type 2; 2" width of the material that TT uses for the leg straps for their DL panels (http://www.tacticaltailor.com/qrlegrigassembly.aspx), or that Specops Brand uses for the waist belt on their THE pack. Thinner than the Wilderness/HSGI stuff.
EXTRA PARTS
Velcro/ Hook and Loop; Sew-on type, not sticky. I want the type that HSGI uses- that stuff is freaking invincible once it's attached together. The thing is, I have no idea what type exactly that would be, as on Lowy's page (again: http://www.lowyusa.com/soft-goods/velcro-usa-hook-loop) there's different certification numbers and class types- it's not like they just list it as "invincible velcro, type 1 "...:laugh:
OneWrap; I'm not sure if I'm referencing the correct thing, but this is that super lowprofile hook and loop stuff that SKD uses on their PIG shoulderpads as the loops to secure them to the vest/PC straps (http://www.skdtac.com/PIG-BRIG-Shoulder-Pad-Set-p/pig.513.htm)
The thing is on Lowy's page (yes, all these links are what I meant above when I said their stuff "looked right"- http://www.lowyusa.com/vc-onewrap) it's offered as "hook" side or "Loop" side, but described as "back to back hook and loop".... :confused:
Or are they just stating the colors of each side, in that "black" would have black hook and white loop?
Grommets/Eyelets; I'm sure these are available just about anywhere, but is there a type I can use that will lay flat? For example, RCS holster grommets have a bit of a rounded edge. I'd like to not have that, if at all possible.
I'm also not sure if i'd need a spurred washer half for use with webbing material?
As far as production/How-To- What is the best/correct way to cut the webbing? How about the Velcro/Onewrap?
Can I just use a knife/scissors, or do you need some sort of heated cutter to cut the webbing/punch holes. The hole punch on Lowy's site (Here-http://www.lowyusa.com/hk-60) looks supsiciously like a woodburner, which I have.
So I would assume I can use a basic woodburner to punch holes, and then cut the webbing/velcro however and seal the cut ends with...something else flat and hot?
Because, I really don't want to buy a whole machine to cut a couple pieces of webbing....
Ideas and info, anyone?
Well, after playing around with them some more, and pilfering the waist straps from my THE pack I've come up with a workable solution that I can do myself. Unfortunately those two borrowed straps do not provide me with enough material or hardware to get the job done.
Unfortuantelier, I have no clue what I'm looking at as far as actual type of the parts (to be explained more below) and I also have no idea where to get this stuff.
I have found a couple possible suppliers based on a list by Milspec Monkey;
(Webbing:http://milspecmonkey.com/customize/webbing)
(Hardware:http://milspecmonkey.com/customize/hardware)
It seems that Lowy USA and GSI would cover about everything (although Lowy looks much more like the "right" stuff, as far as design and material types used and I like their selection better). It seems Jones Tactical also sells webbing and parts, but not a lot of info on their site and I would need more info (hence this thread) to even ask what they offer.
HOWEVER- it seems that being actual manufacturers and distributors, there is a lot of Min. orders and Min. quantities that would need to be ordered. I'm sure most of this can't be all that expensive (right? :laugh:), but at the same time, I really don't need 200 yards of webbing and 600 sliders....
Is there any companies like those that cater to smaller orders?
HERE IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR:
Based on the description in the MSM pic/linked websites:
HARDWARE
Plastic/Metal Slide, 2"
For securing/adjusting webbing-see any BFG sling for example (Item:http://www.lowyusa.com/pl-sb200).
From experimenting, it seems having a couple metal versions in the style of the THE pack hardware (This? http://www.lowyusa.com/sl504 Or this? http://www.lowyusa.com/sl02300200) may be handy as well as it's a little more low profile. Seems like they may not hold tight as well with thin webbing though...
Plastic/Metal Loop, 2"
For securing two seperate strap assemblies (like these: http://www.lowyusa.com/pl-lp200)
WEBBING
I have absolutely no clue WTF I'm looking at here, based on pictures, and info on this seems hard to find, so I will attempt to describe what I want, and hopefully someone here will know;
Webbing Type 1; 2" width of the material that Wilderness Tactical uses for their instructor belts, OR that HSGI uses for the Cobra belt that came with the SGPB that I got.
Webbing Type 2; 2" width of the material that TT uses for the leg straps for their DL panels (http://www.tacticaltailor.com/qrlegrigassembly.aspx), or that Specops Brand uses for the waist belt on their THE pack. Thinner than the Wilderness/HSGI stuff.
EXTRA PARTS
Velcro/ Hook and Loop; Sew-on type, not sticky. I want the type that HSGI uses- that stuff is freaking invincible once it's attached together. The thing is, I have no idea what type exactly that would be, as on Lowy's page (again: http://www.lowyusa.com/soft-goods/velcro-usa-hook-loop) there's different certification numbers and class types- it's not like they just list it as "invincible velcro, type 1 "...:laugh:
OneWrap; I'm not sure if I'm referencing the correct thing, but this is that super lowprofile hook and loop stuff that SKD uses on their PIG shoulderpads as the loops to secure them to the vest/PC straps (http://www.skdtac.com/PIG-BRIG-Shoulder-Pad-Set-p/pig.513.htm)
The thing is on Lowy's page (yes, all these links are what I meant above when I said their stuff "looked right"- http://www.lowyusa.com/vc-onewrap) it's offered as "hook" side or "Loop" side, but described as "back to back hook and loop".... :confused:
Or are they just stating the colors of each side, in that "black" would have black hook and white loop?
Grommets/Eyelets; I'm sure these are available just about anywhere, but is there a type I can use that will lay flat? For example, RCS holster grommets have a bit of a rounded edge. I'd like to not have that, if at all possible.
I'm also not sure if i'd need a spurred washer half for use with webbing material?
As far as production/How-To- What is the best/correct way to cut the webbing? How about the Velcro/Onewrap?
Can I just use a knife/scissors, or do you need some sort of heated cutter to cut the webbing/punch holes. The hole punch on Lowy's site (Here-http://www.lowyusa.com/hk-60) looks supsiciously like a woodburner, which I have.
So I would assume I can use a basic woodburner to punch holes, and then cut the webbing/velcro however and seal the cut ends with...something else flat and hot?
Because, I really don't want to buy a whole machine to cut a couple pieces of webbing....
Ideas and info, anyone?