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Midwest Industries
09-24-13, 17:26
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Midwest Industries is proud to release the MI-SSK-12 KeyMod Hand Guard

The MI-SSK-12 weighs 8.5oz WITH the barrel nut, actual length is 12.625", OD is 1.5", ID is 1.3".

It has 5 built in QD anti-rotation sling sockets, two on each side and one on the bottom front

There are 12 KeyMod slots on the sides and bottom of the hand guard.

Will be available in 12" and 15" lengths.

Expected to be available in 3-4 weeks.

Retail pricing will be $209.95 for the 12" MI-SSK.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/P9242407_zpsfdb02adb.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/P9242408_zpsbacb237a.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/P9242413_zpsfba3bee5.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/P9242416_zps119078a0.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/P9242419_zpse60a4af4.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/P9242420_zps9f511fa1.jpg

Voodoo_Man
09-24-13, 17:37
Do you have a picture of the 15 inch rail?

thopkins22
09-24-13, 17:39
I'm ecstatic to see more options like that opening up in the tube rail realm.

Vgex2
09-24-13, 17:41
That looks great!

Midwest Industries
09-25-13, 10:35
We will post pictures of the 15" as soon as we finish them.

This handguard uses the same barrel nut as our SSG2 and T-series gen2 which is our own proprietary nut.

Thank you,
Pete
MI

Voodoo_Man
09-25-13, 12:25
sweet thanks looking forward to it.

ZINCOGNITO
09-26-13, 23:17
That's a solid looking rail!

Shiz
09-27-13, 14:45
Loving it. Loving that the keymod is universal too. This might be my next rail.

CodeRed30
09-27-13, 15:47
Any chance you guys will push out a 10'' version in the near future?

jerrysimons
09-27-13, 17:02
Very nice! Light weight also!
Do you have a mounted weight for the 15" aswell?

Midwest Industries
10-03-13, 16:30
Very nice! Light weight also!
Do you have a mounted weight for the 15" aswell?

Not yet, i will post it up soon.

Here are a few more pics.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/P9252381_zps28111989.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/P9252382_zps452bfdb1.jpg

Ryno12
10-03-13, 17:23
Any plans for a free float, keymod HG that works with a standard barrel nut? Maybe something similar to your Gen 2 FF two piece. Some of us poor bastards have pinned comps. ;)

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Rascally
10-03-13, 19:01
Any plans to maybe arrange for your colors (OD, FDE, etc.) to match other makers' colors? Especially Magpuls'?
It would be nice if your OD didn't look like Foliage Green, would have prevented a rattle can job...

Rascal

"You can never be too rich, too good looking, or too well armed"

Midwest Industries
10-04-13, 07:01
We will be making these in black only for now. The whole color thing is a major pain. There are many different shades of FDE and green out there. These parts are anodized and the color varies per run so its never exactly perfect .
Thanks
TROY
MIDWEST

Rascally
10-04-13, 07:19
Ok, then I guess that's a good reason for me to stay with basic black too. Thank you for the reply. I love the SS Gen 2 on my DD Ambush 6.8!

Rascal

"You can never be too rich, too good looking, or too well armed"

Shiz
10-05-13, 02:03
With the keymod being universal. I dont mind if the rail is black. SO many companies make decent FDE rails that will cover it fine.

Plus, I don't think a rattle can is that scary.

Ryno12
10-12-13, 10:55
Any plans for a free float, keymod HG that works with a standard barrel nut? Maybe something similar to your Gen 2 FF two piece. Some of us poor bastards have pinned comps. ;)

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Yes? No? Maybe so?

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Midwest Industries
10-23-13, 13:01
Yes? No? Maybe so?

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This is something we will look at after we finish a few other products we have going right now.

Thank you,

PETE
MI

Ryno12
10-23-13, 13:10
This is something we will look at after we finish a few other products we have going right now.

Thank you,

PETE
MI

Good to know. Thanks Pete.

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Midwest Industries
10-23-13, 13:34
The 15" keymod weight with barrel nut is 9.9oz

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/PA222137_zps2eabed0f-1.jpg

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/PA222148_zps60d8f37f-1.jpg



Thank you,
PETE
MI

Dead Man
10-23-13, 13:41
Any plans for shorter lengths?

Just ordered a regular Gen II SS in 10 for a lightweight project... would love to use one of these instead, though- looks like a great super lightweight piece

Midwest Industries
10-23-13, 14:20
Any plans for shorter lengths?

Just ordered a regular Gen II SS in 10 for a lightweight project... would love to use one of these instead, though- looks like a great super lightweight piece

Yes, we will be doing a 10.5" SS Keymod
This will allow for the handguard to cover a micro gas block on a mid length gas gun.

here is another picture of the 15"

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/Midwest_Ind/MI-SSK/75b1d611-a236-4155-9f53-ccbf23d8513e_zps5bfb83bf.jpg?t=1382555684

Dead Man
10-23-13, 14:24
Yes, we will be doing a 10.5" SS Keymod

ETA on that?

Midwest Industries
10-24-13, 05:54
The 10.5 version is two to three weeks out. They are at hard coat.
The 10.5 version weighs 7.7oz with the barrel nut.
thanks
TROY
MI

Midwest Industries
10-31-13, 15:20
The 15 inch model is now for sale on our web site. :)
thank you
TROY
MI

Midwest Industries
11-07-13, 14:36
10.5 versions are ready to ship . On the web site ready for orders.
thanks
TROY
MI

Voodoo_Man
11-07-13, 14:49
That 15 inch is damn sexy.

Nice job guys.

sva01
11-08-13, 05:43
Just got my BCM BFH upper with the 12" rail from BCM yesterday. Haven't put any range time in yet but initial impressions have me quite happy! Now I need some rail covers (this thing is skinny!) and a direct mount keymod hand stop. Any recommendations for the hand stop?

Nice work MI!

Midwest Industries
11-08-13, 06:19
We have not started working on the smaller parts like hand stops yet. We have tried the NSR panel kit with the hand stops on one of these and it is spooky how nice it functions and looks. Just a thought. Glad you like your hand guard.
thank you
TROY
MI

Dead Man
11-08-13, 13:31
One thing I like about the Gen II SS is the threaded taps- being able to screw directly in to the handguard with a smaller, lighter piece than normally required by rails or even keymod pieces. Does the keymod version still have the taps?

Also, sort of off-topic... I've been looking for a couple thread-in pieces- a handstop, and a sling mount. I found a nice lightweight handstop that will thread in from a different manufacturer, but I have not yet found a simple mash-loop mount that will thread straight into the taps. Does MI make one that I've missed, or do you know of anything else people have used?

Thanks

Midwest Industries
11-11-13, 09:57
We do make direct interface handstops for the SS but not for the keymod as of yet.
As for sling attachment we are seeing the trend go towards QD and have been focused on sockets for sling attachment with our products.

Thank you,
Pete
MI

Midwest Industries
11-11-13, 10:05
This is a Sig 11.5" barrel with the 10.5" SSK.

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This is a 16" mid length with a micro gas block and a 10.5" MI-SSK.

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Voodoo_Man
11-27-13, 14:54
figured its worth reposting in this thread.

finally got my hands on a 15inch gen2 rail. Its damn sexy.

http://i.imgur.com/MH5xCJCh.jpg

BufordTJustice
11-29-13, 12:44
I'm very interested in your 15" SSK.

Pete, I'll be honest, I'm still worried about the rail rotating (and the absence of conventional anti-rotation tabs/devices). This will be going on a duty upper and will have a Vickers 2-pt VCAS sling attached, so some rotational torque will be unavoidable....especially if I get into another knock-down drag-out fight with my long-gun slung (long story, I had no choice).

Can you explain what guards against the SSK rotating. Do you specify a higher torque on the barrel nut than the 30ft-lb baseline for a regular barrel nut? Is there some other mechanism to prevent rotation (other than the nut pinning the gas tube against the edge of the "x-hole" in the front of the upper)?

I really like the keymod and the light weight. Please sell me on this.

Dead Man
11-29-13, 12:52
I'm very interested in your 15" SSK.

Pete, I'll be honest, I'm still worried about the rail rotating (and the absence of conventional anti-rotation tabs/devices). This will be going on a duty upper and will have a Vickers 2-pt VCAS sling attached, so some rotational torque will be unavoidable....especially if I get into another knock-down drag-out fight with my long-gun slung (long story, I had no choice).

Can you explain what guards against the SSK rotating. Do you specify a higher torque on the barrel nut than the 30ft-lb baseline for a regular barrel nut? Is there some other mechanism to prevent rotation (other than the nut pinning the gas tube against the edge of the "x-hole" in the front of the upper)?

I really like the keymod and the light weight. Please sell me on this.

The barrel nut is captured by the gas tube, which is immobilized by the tube hole in the receiver face. It would take more torque than you could ever apply to the handguard to sever the gas tube to rotate the nut far enough to make any kind of difference.

BufordTJustice
11-29-13, 13:30
The barrel nut is captured by the gas tube, which is immobilized by the tube hole in the receiver face. It would take more torque than you could ever apply to the handguard to sever the gas tube to rotate the nut far enough to make any kind of difference.

I understand how the gas tube interfaces with the barrel nut. I want to find out if there is anything else that secures the HG against rotation other than barrel nut torque (which SHOULD be adequate).

I'm a 250lb weightlifting patrol deputy in Orlando, FL. When I fight with people, shit gets broken. Not trying to act macho...but that's an everyday possibility for me.

I like the BCM KMR, but their 13" rail leaves a portion of the GB exposed, which is a no-go for a patrol upper (especially when the fast and aggressive use of barricades is on the menu).

The RA Evo (made by Samson) is larger and heavier (by about 3oz), but has dual anti-rotation tabs and also indexes on the std barrel nut due to ribs on the interior of the rail. Just doing my research.

EDIT: for accuracy purposes, like to put as little torque on the barrel nut as I can once I get past the 30ft-lb baseline. I don't want to be in a situation where I'm throwing 60ft-lbs on it cause that can degrade accuracy in my experience.

DOUBLE EDIT: When my sighting system is based on the rail, fractions of a millimeter can have a noticeable effect on your zero when your front sight is at the end of a 15" rail.

Dead Man
11-29-13, 16:02
No, there's no other anti-rotation feature. However, at least with how I have mine set up, there's this:

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Using a Larue LT751

BufordTJustice
11-30-13, 01:36
No, there's no other anti-rotation feature. However, at least with how I have mine set up, there's this:

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Using a Larue LT751


Gotcha. I'm using an LT660 with my T1 that might be able to fill a similar role.

Hwikek
12-20-13, 07:40
The RA Evo (made by Samson) is larger and heavier (by about 3oz), but has dual anti-rotation tabs and also indexes on the std barrel nut due to ribs on the interior of the rail. Just doing my research.

Isn't that the same rail that sometimes slides forward and leaves a gap between itself and the upper receiver?

BufordTJustice
12-21-13, 08:36
Isn't that the same rail that sometimes slides forward and leaves a gap between itself and the upper receiver?

I only know of one person who had an issue like that. They had the barrel heat sink bushing on backwards.

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Hwikek
12-21-13, 19:41
I only know of one person who had an issue like that. They had the barrel heat sink bushing on backwards.

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I think that answers my question. Good to know the system is solid and the product works when properly installed.

Nocalsocal
12-21-13, 22:40
On my Troy alpha rail I was worried about possible handguard rotation. I used an old Magpul RSA on the slot closest to the receiver to clamp onto both the Troy and the upper. Similar to using the Larue optic mount in the previous poster. Since I don't like the sling connection so close to the reciever I may grind off the sling attachment to streamline it with the rail. But it looks like this MI rail lacks that extra slot. Looks super light and slim otherwise.

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Robb Jensen
12-22-13, 11:12
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I installed one this past week for a friend on a 14.5" LW midlength BCM, very nice rail. I want to get a FDE 12" version my self for a similarly built upper of mine.

matt86
01-08-14, 22:31
[QUOTE=Midwest Industries;1778275]Yes, we will be doing a 10.5" SS Keymod
This will allow for the handguard to cover a micro gas block on a mid length gas gun.

What about the low pro .625 gas block? Will the 10.5 cover that on a mid-gas gun?

Midwest Industries
01-09-14, 10:08
[QUOTE=Midwest Industries;1778275]Yes, we will be doing a 10.5" SS Keymod
This will allow for the handguard to cover a micro gas block on a mid length gas gun.

What about the low pro .625 gas block? Will the 10.5 cover that on a mid-gas gun?

Close, but not completely. An LPG will stick out about 3/4"

Thank you,
PETE
MI

matt86
01-09-14, 10:42
Thanks for the reply.

Hammertime
02-01-14, 16:47
I just purchased the SSK 12" for a 16" lightweight build. Pencil barrel and topping her off with a Trijicon SRS02 and a Geissele SD-E.

I will post some pics up when I get it in and rolling. Anticipating getting my shipment!

Cheers,
Hammer

.46caliber
02-01-14, 22:00
PETE or TROY,

Any issues with fitting one of these over a shaved FSB? This rail has caught my attention.

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Midwest Industries
02-04-14, 07:12
They could be made to fit with no issues. Just remember you will have to remove the sight tower to install the new barrel nut.
thanks
TROY
MI

txfactor
02-19-14, 10:38
Just a heads up for anyone planning on getting one of these SSK handguards, I had clearance issues over my Sadlak clamp-on gas block. The handguard contacted the bottom of the gas block. I switched to a YHM setscrew style gas block and have about 1/16in clearance now. I mic'd the inner diameter of the handguard at 1.30in so a .750in gas block seat yields .275in of clearance.

With that said, I have no regrets choosing the Midwest SSK handguard. Love it!

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/alexrex20/DSC04512.jpg (http://s665.photobucket.com/user/alexrex20/media/DSC04512.jpg.html)

matt86
02-19-14, 18:21
The 10.5" will clear a mid length gas block with a BCM gb

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g322/mattnewman/IMG_20140219_182953678_zpsyhymhf5q.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/mattnewman/media/IMG_20140219_182953678_zpsyhymhf5q.jpg.html)
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g322/mattnewman/IMG_20140219_182936831_zpsfoo2plrp.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/mattnewman/media/IMG_20140219_182936831_zpsfoo2plrp.jpg.html)

Midwest Industries
02-20-14, 16:31
Just a heads up for anyone planning on getting one of these SSK handguards, I had clearance issues over my Sadlak clamp-on gas block. The handguard contacted the bottom of the gas block. I switched to a YHM setscrew style gas block and have about 1/16in clearance now. I mic'd the inner diameter of the handguard at 1.30in so a .750in gas block seat yields .275in of clearance.

With that said, I have no regrets choosing the Midwest SSK handguard. Love it!

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/alexrex20/DSC04512.jpg (http://s665.photobucket.com/user/alexrex20/media/DSC04512.jpg.html)



The 10.5" will clear a mid length gas block with a BCM gb

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g322/mattnewman/IMG_20140219_182953678_zpsyhymhf5q.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/mattnewman/media/IMG_20140219_182953678_zpsyhymhf5q.jpg.html)
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g322/mattnewman/IMG_20140219_182936831_zpsfoo2plrp.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/mattnewman/media/IMG_20140219_182936831_zpsfoo2plrp.jpg.html)

Nice looking setups guys!
Pete
MI

sva01
02-20-14, 16:53
What do I need to do to seperate my rail from the barrel nut? Is heat needed to break the LocTite? If yes, what temp do you recommend? Obviously the allen screws need to be loosened but after that...

kenny256
05-16-14, 13:10
I am going to be picking up one of these new handguards! They look fantastic MI!

I just cant decide between the SS or the SSK...hmmm decisions...

ucrt
06-17-14, 20:42
What do I need to do to seperate my rail from the barrel nut? Is heat needed to break the LocTite? If yes, what temp do you recommend? Obviously the allen screws need to be loosened but after that...


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Was wondering the same thing...
Anyone had to "undo" the hand guard / barrel nut connection?

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Midwest Industries
06-18-14, 08:03
Loosen screws , spread tabs a very small amount , this will break the bond. Then slide the tube off the front. Just remember these are not meant to be taken off on a routine basis. To get the hand guard to lock on tight again you will have to clean that nut very well and reapply adhesive. Its a very easy thing to do but attention to detail is critical . Re install will require the same torque settings.
thanks
TROY
MI

.46caliber
07-21-14, 18:41
Loosen screws , spread tabs a very small amount , this will break the bond. Then slide the tube off the front. Just remember these are not meant to be taken off on a routine basis. To get the hand guard to lock on tight again you will have to clean that nut very well and reapply adhesive. Its a very easy thing to do but attention to detail is critical . Re install will require the same torque settings.
thanks
TROY
MI

Any word on 10 or 10.5 version of MLok?

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Midwest Industries
07-22-14, 07:31
We are working our way through all the lengths . The 10 inch versions will be running next
thanks
TROY
MI

six8
07-22-14, 07:57
MI SSK on my .458 SOCOM.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/22/muqa4ada.jpg

.46caliber
07-23-14, 18:05
Loosen screws , spread tabs a very small amount , this will break the bond. Then slide the tube off the front. Just remember these are not meant to be taken off on a routine basis. To get the hand guard to lock on tight again you will have to clean that nut very well and reapply adhesive. Its a very easy thing to do but attention to detail is critical . Re install will require the same torque settings.
thanks
TROY
MI

I'm a little fuzzy on this. There's an adhesive where? The nuts for the two screws that pull the split section? Is it an adhesive or a thread locker like Loc-Tite or Rocksett?

Sorry if I'm being dense.

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ucrt
07-23-14, 22:02
.

There is a supplied adhesive that is applied between the rail and the barrel nut during rail installation.

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Midwest Industries
07-24-14, 06:45
Yes that is included.
TROY
MI

TehLlama
08-21-14, 15:54
I've been trying to find it, since I'm looking at a 16" LR-308 barreled setup, what is the OAL for the 15" model?
I'm specifically looking at running an SAS Reaper on this rifle, maybe thread-on otherwise thread over MB.

[ETA] Saw a few pages deep on TOS that the 10.5 will cover a LP GB on a middy by 0.050", that the 12" model is 12 5/8" (12.625"), and that the 15" is a true 15") - I'd still like to verify OAL on the 15.
http://midwestindustriesinc.com/images/products/ssk_keymod.jpg for weight references.

Figure4LegLokk
09-28-14, 09:09
I've been trying to find it, since I'm looking at a 16" LR-308 barreled setup, what is the OAL for the 15" model?
I'm specifically looking at running an SAS Reaper on this rifle, maybe thread-on otherwise thread over MB.

[ETA] Saw a few pages deep on TOS that the 10.5 will cover a LP GB on a middy by 0.050", that the 12" model is 12 5/8" (12.625"), and that the 15" is a true 15") - I'd still like to verify OAL on the 15.
http://midwestindustriesinc.com/images/products/ssk_keymod.jpg for weight references.

I'm also wondering if the 12 5/8" will fit on the rifle length/dissipator barrels with FSB.