CCW Glock 19 with Surefire? Thoughts [Archive]

BCmJUnKie

10-05-13, 14:22

Same setup I run.

X300,used to be on the 17 gen 4, now it's on my EDC 19.

A couple things, all depending on your holster, is comfort.

Sometimes I carry abdomen, the light digs into your leg,can get uncomfortable. That's with an armadillo light holster.

I don't like carrying this setup without a holster, the light snags easily.

I carry a 5.11 ATAC L1, so I can go wit or without the x300.

I don't carry the 19 with Surefire during the day, doesn't make a lot of sense, so basically just at night in abdomen

William B.

10-05-13, 14:36

That's with an armadillo light holster.

How's this holster work for you? I assume that by "abdomen" carry you mean the same thing as "appendix" carry. Does it have any grip tucking capability? Do you use any foam wedges or what-not?

Dmaynor

10-05-13, 15:04

I've carried a Glock 19 as an EDC for almost 3 years with an X300 in a Raven Concealment Phantom IWB. I don't like to imagine not having a light is I need one.

Mr blasty

10-05-13, 15:20

BCmJUnKie

10-05-13, 15:40

How's this holster work for you? I assume that by "abdomen" carry you mean the same thing as "appendix" carry. Does it have any grip tucking capability? Do you use any foam wedges or what-not?

Yes. I'm at work and was thinking something different. Typed what I was thinking lol.

I never tuck my shirts but it could.

No foam wedges, nothing. I keep everything I carry fairly simple.

Sometimes I don't even use a holster, sometimes I will run my under shirt up around the bottom and that holds it pretty good.

That's only if I'm around the house or just running to the store. I almost always use a holster. Anyways ya, it's a good little system.

Reholstering is not an option. You have to take it out and reholster.

DTHN2LGS

10-05-13, 16:10

I am CCW'ing a G19 with X300 and DG switch in a Raven holster. I use the 3:30 - 4:00 IWB position. It can be a little uncomfortable when seated. If I carry it consistently, I won't leave the light behind and then find myself still out of the house after dark unexpectedly.

Shawvez

10-05-13, 19:24

I off duty carry a g19 with a tlr1. I carry it appendix carry in a bladetech iwb. I would imagine a x300 would carry just as fine. I haven't had any problems with it and it's been pretty comfortable.

jpeezy

10-06-13, 00:14

Duty and personal self defense guns should have a light IMHO. You never want to be in that position where you wish you had it and it's in your closet.

jpeezy

10-06-13, 00:16

Double post sry

Michael2007

10-06-13, 00:28

I go into buildings during the day. Therefore my CCW always has a light G19 TLR-1. I recently picked up an inforce APL I much prefer it to my TLR-1 and surefires I've shot with. The slimmer profile is ideal for CCW and the paddles are much better switching method than the rocker.

awmp

10-06-13, 08:45

How about some pictures of how you carry and what you carry for a weapon and light setup?

walker2713

10-06-13, 09:13

How about some pictures of how you carry and what you carry for a weapon and light setup?

Right on...this would be very helpful!!

Great thread.....

Thanks for posting it....

yoni

10-06-13, 13:29

I carry a Glock 34 with a Streamlight TLR EDC.

William B.

10-06-13, 14:16

I never tuck my shirts but it could.

BCM,

Thank you for the thorough reply. When I mentioned grip tucking I was referring to the ability of the holster to cant/tuck the handgun grip in towards the body to reduce printing.

Lol. I did try tucking my shirt in around my handgun once, though, and never made it out the door like that :eek: With my build I would have to blouse my shirt out to the point of looking a total fruit cake to make that work.

BCmJUnKie

10-07-13, 16:50

BCM,

Thank you for the thorough reply. When I mentioned grip tucking I was referring to the ability of the holster to cant/tuck the handgun grip in towards the body to reduce printing.

Lol. I did try tucking my shirt in around my handgun once, though, and never made it out the door like that :eek: With my build I would have to blouse my shirt out to the point of looking a total fruit cake to make that work.

Roger that.

Ya I thought you meant shirt tuck. I never do it.

As far as it not printing, it doesn't. The main width is only around the light itself, which is below your waistband. Anything above the light is just the slide, so however wide your pistol is.

The other feature is that the holster is for the LIGHT.....so as long as you're using the X300, you can swap it on any other pistol you have that uses a rail.

William B.

10-07-13, 18:19

Roger that.

Ya I thought you meant shirt tuck. I never do it.

As far as it not printing, it doesn't. The main width is only around the light itself, which is below your waistband. Anything above the light is just the slide, so however wide your pistol is.

The other feature is that the holster is for the LIGHT.....so as long as you're using the X300, you can swap it on any other pistol you have that uses a rail.

Thanks for the insight. I'd like to eventually start carrying with a WML in the appendix position, so this was helpful.

SW-Shooter

10-07-13, 20:19

I carry 2:00 to 2:30(sometimes closer to 3:00) with a Glock 30SF & Glock 19 with a TLR HL, in an RCS Phantom light bearing holster. No problems at all, the grip tucks nicely and zero printing. I only carry with a light, day always turns to night, and I might not be in a situation that permits me to go home and swap holsters.

Raven Concealment Holsters For The MF Win.

BCmJUnKie

10-08-13, 09:58

Thanks for the insight. I'd like to eventually start carrying with a WML in the appendix position, so this was helpful.

No problem. I recommend trying different positions around the house first. Try and wear it all day on a day off. Pretend you're in public and don't touch it.

With my job, not only do I have to SIT, but I have to lean forward as well.....carrying appendix is EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

Try it out and see what works for you

Javelin

10-08-13, 11:53

I find it very difficult to comfortably conceal a weapon light mounted sidearm. Just my personal experiences.

William B.

10-08-13, 12:26

No problem. I recommend trying different positions around the house first. Try and wear it all day on a day off. Pretend you're in public and don't touch it.

With my job, not only do I have to SIT, but I have to lean forward as well.....carrying appendix is EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

Try it out and see what works for you

I know what you mean, although it got a lot better for me as I became more used to that style of carry. I can't imagine that adding a WML would make it any better. I have read that a few folks have had custom AIWB/WML holsters made for them by JM Custom Kydex and they had positive things to say about them. I have a Crimson Trace Rail Master WML that is about as perfect a size as a WML gets for AIWB, but I need to do some more shooting with that light and make sure it's for me and that it's durable before dropping dough for a custom holster.

BCmJUnKie

10-08-13, 12:38

I find it very difficult to comfortably conceal a weapon light mounted sidearm. Just my personal experiences.

I'm in the same boat. I never heard anyone else say this either.

I WANT to like it, but it is very uncomfortable

wwright521

10-08-13, 19:25

During the summer months its hard for me to carry my Glock 19 with WML. But winter time its easily done in my Raven holster.

Trajan

10-08-13, 22:44

You guys should really check out the APL. Switching is IMO superior to Surefire's offerings, and you can actually AIWB it.

With my job, not only do I have to SIT, but I have to lean forward as well.....carrying appendix is EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

Do you have it in the "sweet spot"? I have noticed that a lot of people try to put it at 12, when it really should be at 1230-100.

kevN

10-16-13, 00:24

As much as a WLM is nice to have, for me it's a bit much to EDC and about 25% I carry my 26 without a light rail vs my g19. So, I prefer just to train a bit more using handheld lights.

4DAIVI PAI2K5

10-16-13, 07:08

These are with the APL.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8119/10236981183_6aa68dc04e_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7413/9571470227_769a6aa3b4_c.jpg

This one will be using dual soft loops once completed. Needs finally shaping/fitting, loop holes drilled and then all the sanding.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2846/10292077383_232b276561_c.jpg

Once I get time to make a new one for my self it will either be a single loop mounted on the trigger side or may try dual soft loops if I like how the green one turns out.

firerocketjump

10-20-13, 20:47

What I did with my glock and the raven concealment holster was get the kydex for a surefire fury handheld light and just have the Glock kydexed alone from Raven.

I feel like I change lights quite often and with the price of lights its easier to just get the glock done only.

I also feel like using a handheld is much better in terms of hiding your exact location than mounting it directly under your gun.

4DAIVI PAI2K5

10-21-13, 06:04

munch520

10-21-13, 07:18

I also feel like using a handheld is much better in terms of hiding your exact location than mounting it directly under your gun.

I'd rather have two-handed control on a handgun any day of the week.

I've been carrying a Glock 19 for almost 4 years now and have just recently found a WML combination that I can conceal with a t shirt. The APL light allows the overall package to be trimmed down compared to the Surefire x series. The JM concealment kydex also rides much lower than a Raven, yet the muzzle end is still covered by a t shirt.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7326/9856958064_3e6799996a_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96608534@N06/9856958064/)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3822/9857070623_49779e445f_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96608534@N06/9857070623/)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5533/9857002476_f9d58334b7_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96608534@N06/9857002476/)

Voodoo_Man

10-21-13, 07:33

It comes down to what you want out of your setup.

I carried a TLR1s for years and now I do not carry a weapon light. I have two flashlights I carry (two is one and all that). Specifically because every time I run a light on my pistol for carry it seems to be more hassle than I want from an EDC setup.

4DAIVI PAI2K5

10-21-13, 11:39

I'd rather have two-handed control on a handgun any day of the week.

I've been carrying a Glock 19 for almost 4 years now and have just recently found a WML combination that I can conceal with a t shirt. The APL light allows the overall package to be trimmed down compared to the Surefire x series. The JM concealment kydex also rides much lower than a Raven, yet the muzzle end is still covered by a t shirt.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7326/9856958064_3e6799996a_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96608534@N06/9856958064/)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3822/9857070623_49779e445f_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96608534@N06/9857070623/)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5533/9857002476_f9d58334b7_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96608534@N06/9857002476/)
I dig that holster, but damn it does sit low and provides no ride adjustment.

munch520

10-21-13, 12:14

I dig that holster, but damn it does sit low and provides no ride adjustment.

Yeah that's the way it was designed/the way I wanted it. There's also a higher riding version.

Raven and others offer adjustment but that does me little good when none of them will adjust low enough.

WickedWillis

10-21-13, 12:15

I dig that holster, but damn it does sit low and provides no ride adjustment.

That is very close to what was going to be my only complaint with that holster. In my honest opinion, Raven concealment makes the finest Kydex holsters I have used.

Trajan

10-21-13, 15:37

Yeah that's the way it was designed/the way I wanted it. There's also a higher riding version.

Raven and others offer adjustment but that does me little good when none of them will adjust low enough.

Before I went all in on AIWB I wanted a holster that basically did the same thing, except IWB. That's pretty neat.

TCB

10-21-13, 15:52

I've been running one of the Armidillo Xfer holsters with a X300U on my P2000 (close size wise to your G19) for a few months now at just behind my 3 O'Clock. I wear jeans and a 1 3/4 leather belt and it seems to work pretty good. It's not exactly comfortable but it's not that bad (I had it on for a 5 hour flight recently and didn't hate it). I wish it had a second belt loop on it to keep it from canting but that actually is what might make it work (transition from sitting to standing) as well as it does (from a comfort standpoint). As long as my belt is adjusted properly it carries well. The draw is very good buy reholstering is a bit tricky, not undo-able just a bit tricky.