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(CBS News) An NYPD undercover detective has now been arrested in connection with an attack on a family in an SUV by a group of motorcyclists, reports CBS News' John Miller.
The officer is expected to be charged with criminal mischief for allegedly banging on and breaking the rear window of the SUV. The detective waited four days before coming forward to the NYPD and he allegedly made false statements about his involvement, reports Miller.
The AP identified the officer as Wojciech Braszczok, and said he turned himself in to face riot and criminal mischief charges. He was expected to make a court appearance Wednesday.
There were also 4-7 (Cannot confirm exact number) off duty officers part of this group of bikers who did nothing to stop the beating from the reports I've seen.
WTF?
Moose-Knuckle
10-09-13, 17:51
There were also 4-7 (Cannot confirm exact number) off duty officers part of this group of bikers who did nothing to stop the beating from the reports I've seen.
WTF?
Dirty cops?
Were the bikers a 1% MC or just weekend warriors?
Were the cops undercover infiltrating a criminal or organization or just riding with their friends on there days off?
These are some of the question I have . . .
Eurodriver
10-09-13, 18:08
It doesn't matter.
Cops aren't required to do anything to protect someone from being harmed, even moreso when they are off duty.
That said, they still should. (And most of them do)
PA PATRIOT
10-09-13, 19:20
Another POS poor excuse of a cop locked up and soon to be booted from the force. I have no defense for those who think they are above the law because they wear a badge.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-09-13, 19:47
He'll get off. He'll just say that to cement his cover he acted like he was in on it. The window was already broken, he just banged on the car- what real harm is there in that?
Everyone in the gang swears that they were angels and actually trying to help and diffuse the situation...
It does raise questions about why they were infiltrating this gang in the first place....
They just got caught "fittin-in". Simple as that..
Bolt_Overide
10-09-13, 20:36
Dirty cops?
Were the bikers a 1% MC or just weekend warriors?
Were the cops undercover infiltrating a criminal or organization or just riding with their friends on there days off?
These are some of the question I have . . .
There are actually not that many 1% sport bike clubs, and I didnt see any patches I recognized as such.
Moose-Knuckle
10-09-13, 21:03
There are actually not that many 1% sport bike clubs.
Yeah, I don't know of any myself. But I guess this was just a run of the mill street gang on bikes or a bunch of guys caught up in the "mob mentality". I see a new trend within the sport bike community, douche bags getting together to shut down highways, terrorize drivers (cagers), etc. Reason #3,782,179 to have standard capacity magazines.
There are actually not that many 1% sport bike clubs, and I didnt see any patches I recognized as such.
Front Line Soldiers MC. I don't know if they're a 1% club but they're definitely a POS club.
sure others read they tried to track lic plate numbers but almost all were stolen so they lead no where ?
all black bike gang those arrested seem to all have records ! yeah sounds like obamas kids !
Moose-Knuckle
10-09-13, 21:48
sure others read they tried to track lic plate numbers but almost all were stolen so they lead no where ?
all black bike gang those arrested seem to all have records ! yeah sounds like obamas kids !
Nice, if I was driving that SUV I would have played some Pole Position with them.
It does raise questions about why they were infiltrating this gang in the first place....
If that proves to be the case, they might have just been members.
There are actually not that many 1% sport bike clubs, and I didnt see any patches I recognized as such.
Yea that's because 1% clubs are for geriatric citizens who want to try and feel like they're still relevant. It's a dying concept full of aging members with a very low population of new recruits.
Maybe Sons of Anarchy brought their continued attempt to remain relevant to light for the public but the Hells Angels probably got a chubby from the memories this story brought up about their "good ol'days" Of course that chubby required two viagra, cocaine, a semi truck full of strippers and the helmet cam youtube video on repeat, but that doesn't mean they're not "hardcore bikers".
With that said, since when was a back patch and an organized top down structure required for a gang? Didn't the FBI just release information about organic gang structures that are essentially leaderless?
Just the other day there was a post by a member on here about a "Ride of the Century" in St. Louise that contained several videos of bikers doing similar stuff but no one was attacked. The even was planned digitally and designed with the intent of breaking laws.
What happened in NY was a flash mob of sports bikers who got together with the intent to exist outside of the legal structures of their urban home. It was an organized riot no different then the college riots that flashed up all over the country a decade ago. These people want to feel power in a group, be anonymous and **** shit up without consequence.
If I remember correctly that is how the original 1% gangs were formed as well.
Just because these kinds of groups haven't been defined by the FBI as a gang yet does not mean they don't act and operate like one.
Bolt_Overide
10-09-13, 22:35
This statement reeks of internet ignorance, not meaning to insult, but you're dead wrong. They are simply better at remaining out of the limelight, but make no mistake, they are not to be ignored.
Yea that's because 1% clubs are for geriatric citizens who want to try and feel like they're still relevant. It's a dying concept full of aging members with a very low population of new recruits.
Maybe Sons of Anarchy brought their continued attempt to remain relevant to light for the public but the Hells Angels probably got a chubby from the memories this story brought up about their "good ol'days" Of course that chubby required two viagra, cocaine, a semi truck full of strippers and the helmet cam youtube video on repeat, but that doesn't mean they're not "hardcore bikers".
With that said, since when was a back patch and an organized top down structure required for a gang? Didn't the FBI just release information about organic gang structures that are essentially leaderless?
Just the other day there was a post by a member on here about a "Ride of the Century" in St. Louise that contained several videos of bikers doing similar stuff but no one was attacked. The even was planned digitally and designed with the intent of breaking laws.
What happened in NY was a flash mob of sports bikers who got together with the intent to exist outside of the legal structures of their urban home. It was an organized riot no different then the college riots that flashed up all over the country a decade ago. These people want to feel power in a group, be anonymous and **** shit up without consequence.
If I remember correctly that is how the original 1% gangs were formed as well.
Just because these kinds of groups haven't been defined by the FBI as a gang yet does not mean they don't act and operate like one.
^Agree.
Not only that, the 1%er's have at least some sort of code of conduct (believe it or not)
As a LEO in a heavily Hells Angel territory I can say for sure the are still relevant. I took my brother in law by one of the club houses when he did a ride along. Just so happened to come by as a meeting was happening. There was a lot of people there.
As to the original topic. **** that guy.
This statement reeks of internet ignorance, not meaning to insult, but you're dead wrong. They are simply better at remaining out of the limelight, but make no mistake, they are not to be ignored.
Not really internet ignorance nope. More like frustration with the MC's in my area and having had to deal with multiple ones on multiple occasions. I realize it's very exaggerated but after 6 years of working inside one of the most highly populated areas of the country, where MC's have a really high presence, there is a very ethnically diverse group of gang members, and we're on the boarder of one of the top 10 most violent cities in the nation, I've found that the MC gangs tend to be made up of older individuals and are very much a slowing breed. They're also a pain in the ass to deal with.
But you're right, my knowledge is very limited beyond the fifteen to twenty interactions I've had with clubs in the North East.
I was just being a dick because I think they're silly, stupid, and made up mainly of people my father's age.
Bolt_Overide
10-10-13, 07:14
The real problem is that that geriatric old guard had rules, and a code. They dont screw with random civilians, and they dont want their business out in public.
Because of the dwindling numbers, they are recruiting more, and the new breed has a lot less sense, and no code.
They understand one thing, strength.
The real problem is that that geriatric old guard had rules, and a code. They dont screw with random civilians, and they dont want their business out in public.
Because of the dwindling numbers, they are recruiting more, and the new breed has a lot less sense, and no code.
They understand one thing, strength.
That's what I see too. I was making a joke at their expense because they are suffering recruitment problems and to tell you the truth when I see them acting all big bad and tough next to groups like this one in NYC that attacked this SUV driver, or some of the street gangs in the area it's like two worlds clashing.
Anyway before this spirals into a "you don't know what you're talking about" thread about 1% M.C.s I'm going to say that my smart ass sarcasm was intentional and I was being a dick making a joke.
Undercover my ass! Sure is a likely out for getting caught for doing some shady shit to those you were sworn to protect on your day off. Undercover and didn't want to blow your cover. How stupid are we? :confused:
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