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10-11-13, 16:17
Today (10-11-2013)...

CA Governor Brown signed into law the following gun control bills:
AB 48 by Assemblymember Nancy Skinner (D-Berkeley) – bans magazine parts kits.
AB 170 by Assemblymember Steven Bradford (D-Gardena) – assault weapon/DD/MG/SBR/SBS ownership, "person" are only individuals & not trusts/corporations.
AB 231 by Assemblymember Philip Y. Ting (D-San Francisco) – firearm storage & minors
AB 500 by Assemblymember Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) – firearm storage & prohibited persons
AB 538 by Assemblymember Richard Pan (D-Sacramento) – clarifies some unloaded open carry exemptions and clarifies LE agency reporting when they destroy/sell a firearm
AB 539 by Assemblymember Richard Pan (D-Sacramento) – prohibited person storing firearms with FFL dealer
AB 711 by Assemblymember Anthony Rendon (D-Lakewood) – bans lead ammo for hunting
AB 1131 by Assemblymember Nancy Skinner (D-Berkeley) – increases the firearm prohibition time period for people that may have mental problems
SB 363 by Senator Roderick D. Wright (D-Los Angeles) – firearm storage & prohibited persons
SB 683 by Senator Marty Block (D-San Diego) – firearm safety certificate

CA Governor Brown veto'd the following gun control bills:
AB 169 by Assemblymember Roger Dickinson (D-Sacramento) – Unsafe handguns.
AB 180 by Assemblymember Rob Bonta (D-Alameda) – Registration and licensing of firearms: City of Oakland.
SB 299 by Senator Mark DeSaulnier (D-Concord) – Firearms: lost or stolen: reports.
SB 374 by Senator Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) – Firearms: assault weapons.
SB 475 by Senator Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) – Agricultural District 1-A: firearm sales at the Cow Palace.
SB 567 by Senator Hannah-Beth Jackson (D-Santa Barbara) – Firearms: shotguns.
SB 755 by Senator Lois Wolk (D-Davis) – Firearms: prohibited persons.

10-11-13, 20:51
Starting on 01-01-2014, bans the transfer (buy, sell, loan, gift, etc), making & importing of magazine parts kits.

magazine parts kits = all the parts needed to assemble a large (11+ round) capacity magazine

10-11-13, 20:58
Wow. I am surprised.

I am glad I no longer live there. But at least most horrible new bills were not passed.

10-11-13, 21:00
Bans trusts and corporations from obtaining/owning/possessing dangerous weapons (assault weapons, DDs, MGs, SBRs, SBSs).

Only an individual may apply/obtain/own a firearm obtained through a Dangerous Weapons Permit (assault weapon, DD, MG, SBR, SBS).

10-11-13, 21:13
Makes it illegal to store a loaded firearm and a minor gains access to it without permission.

10-11-13, 21:20
Makes it illegal to have an unsecured firearm in a residence in which a prohibited person also resides.

Person A & B live in the same residence.
Person A legally owns firearms.
Person B is a prohibited person.
Person A must keep all firearms secured at all times.

10-11-13, 21:28
Amends/clarifies some of the exemptions to CA's unloaded open carry laws.

Amends/clarifies when a LE agency must input the disposition (destroyed/sold) of a firearm into AFS/CLETS.

10-11-13, 21:37
Amends how a prohibited person can get rid of any firearms they own.

Allow a person who becomes prohibited to relinquish control of firearms that they own to a FFL dealer for the duration of being prohibited and requires that FFL dealer to notify LE agency when it occurs. After the duration expires, the FFL dealer can then return the firearms to that person.

10-11-13, 21:39
Starting on 07-01-2019, bans the use of lead ammo for hunting.

10-11-13, 21:43
Increases the length of time a person is prohibited from possessing a firearm from 6 months to 5 years, when a psychiatrist reports to a LE agency that a person may be a threat to themselves or others.

10-11-13, 21:48
Makes it illegal to store a handgun and a prohibited person gains access to it.

10-11-13, 21:50
Starting 01-01-2015, in order to obtain a firearm a person must have a valid Firearm Safety Certificate or be exempt from needing one.

10-11-13, 23:10
it's really "bad and less bad news..."

my sympathies - CA is a great piece of land chock full of nuts.

but, the rest of us will be under the same types of laws in the not too distant future.

10-12-13, 10:44
In regards to AB1131, I think this will scare away gun owners from ever seeking any kind of psych help for fear of being put on the "no buy" list. Would a docs recommendation also lead to confiscation of existing guns under this law?
Bad news for gun people with legitimate psych needs.

10-13-13, 12:59
Great only a little bit more rights are taken away and we should be happy ,,,what a society!

10-19-13, 20:48
The bill everyone was worried most about was SB374, which would have expanded the assault weapons laws by redefining what a "detachable magazine" would be, was veto'd by CA Governor Jerry "moonbeam" Brown.

The new definition would have made "detachable magazine" to mean any magazine that can be removed from a firearm without disassembling the action of the firearm.

This would have banned all maglock devices (used to create fixed magazine) and "featureless" semi-auto centerfire rifles that used removable magazines.

CA Governor Jerry Brown's veto letter of SB347 (http://gov.ca.gov/docs/SB_374_2013_Veto_Message.pdf)

I don't believe that this bill's blanket ban on semi-automatic rifles would reduce criminal activity or enhance public safety enough to warrant this infringement on gun owners' rights.

Some say this is good news because the liberal Governor of CA acknowledges that gun bans are an infringements on gun owners' rights. This acknowledgement can now be used/referenced in lawsuits against CA's various gun bans.