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SWThomas
12-11-13, 13:20
I'm getting tired of using a powder trickler to weight my charges and am looking at getting an automatic powder dispenser. Which one do you guys like the best?

I'm also considering a Sinclair concentricity gauge, but can't decide between the dial indicator or the digital indicator.

Help me decide on the best way to treat myself for Christmas.

jstone
12-11-13, 16:43
The only way to go for an automatic dispenser is the charge master. It is by far head and shoulders above all but the prometheus(sp). Accurate shooters did a review on 3 of them and they picked the charge master as the best.


For the concentricity guage I would go dial versus digital, and I normally prefer digital. Concentricity guages are best with a dial. There is one that uses a wheel to spin the brass. I forget the na.e but it is by far the best I have used. I'll call my buddy to get the name of it and post it so you can check it out.


Edit: it is the Accuracy One concentricity guage. He said they did a write up on accurate shooters about it, and thats what made him decide to get it.

tappedandtagged
12-11-13, 17:44
No personal experience, but here is a detailed side by side comparison I found on my other favorite site. Very informative. http://http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/general-reloading/164400-weighing-scale-test.html

Anthony.L
12-11-13, 18:04
RCBS Chargemaster is the best of breed, no doubt about it. You can also hack it's programming to speed up or low down the trickle rate.

That would be my pick.

SWThomas
12-11-13, 20:31
No personal experience, but here is a detailed side by side comparison I found on my other favorite site. Very informative. http://http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/general-reloading/164400-weighing-scale-test.html

Your link seems to be busted.

SWThomas
12-11-13, 20:37
The only way to go for an automatic dispenser is the charge master. It is by far head and shoulders above all but the prometheus(sp). Accurate shooters did a review on 3 of them and they picked the charge master as the best.


For the concentricity guage I would go dial versus digital, and I normally prefer digital. Concentricity guages are best with a dial. There is one that uses a wheel to spin the brass. I forget the na.e but it is by far the best I have used. I'll call my buddy to get the name of it and post it so you can check it out.


Edit: it is the Accuracy One concentricity guage. He said they did a write up on accurate shooters about it, and thats what made him decide to get it.

Mother of God! That thing looks awesome! I wish I had the skrilla to buy that thing. I think the Sinclair will serve me well until I get to the insane level of reloading.

Stumpnav
12-11-13, 20:49
I like the Pact combo:

http://pact.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=126

I believe Pact makes the RCBS version FWIW.

Since concentricity is more of a comparison than an actual value the dial indicator actually works better. It is much easier to see the needle move and tell how far it moved than it is to read the digital numbers and do the math in your head.

jstone
12-12-13, 02:18
Mother of God! That thing looks awesome! I wish I had the skrilla to buy that thing. I think the Sinclair will serve me well until I get to the insane level of reloading.

It is one fine piece of machine work and expensive. It is very nice to use. I plan on getting one right after I get my thumler and my benchsource annealer.

Rcbs also makes a very nice one that also check case wall thickness. To prevent incipient case head seperation.

The comparison they did on accurate shooter included the pact. They said it had nice features but the chargemaster was still the best. I have been loading a long time, but the guys on accurate shooter really know there stuff. When I read a write up on there I tend to believe them.

jstone
12-12-13, 02:29
I like the Pact combo:

http://pact.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=126

I believe Pact makes the RCBS version FWIW.

Since concentricity is more of a comparison than an actual value the dial indicator actually works better. It is much easier to see the needle move and tell how far it moved than it is to read the digital numbers and do the math in your head.


You hit the nail on the head about the dial indicator on the concentricity guage. The dial works great.

tappedandtagged
12-13-13, 22:51
Your link seems to be busted.

Here. This should work. http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/general-reloading/164400-weighing-scale-test.html

SWThomas
12-14-13, 09:01
Here. This should work. http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/general-reloading/164400-weighing-scale-test.html

Looks like the RcBS was the most accurate.

opsoff1
12-20-13, 09:30
SW
Plus one on the opinions here -
Go with a dial indicator - FAR easier to read / see - it's all relative anyway.

Chargemasters are the berries.

22189

I use two - both have been reprogrammed to be used on specific ranges of powder weights - one for small cartidges (i.e. 223/556) and the other for .308/762 sized cartridges. The reprogramming is a bit trial and error - but if you get one and want to optimize it, I'd highly suggest it. I have all the data / coding to do it for different feed rates. I got my 308 from about 30-35 second between charges down to about 12 seconds. My 223 charging went from about 25 seconds to usually 12-15.
I also keep a second small scale going to use to verify.
Also - there is a trick to use a McDonalds straw that is inserted into the feed / trickle tube (with the end cut in a saw tooth pattern) that prevents clumps from forming. Works great.

Scoby
12-21-13, 05:00
SW
Plus one on the opinions here -
Go with a dial indicator - FAR easier to read / see - it's all relative anyway.

Chargemasters are the berries.

22189

I use two - both have been reprogrammed to be used on specific ranges of powder weights - one for small cartidges (i.e. 223/556) and the other for .308/762 sized cartridges. The reprogramming is a bit trial and error - but if you get one and want to optimize it, I'd highly suggest it. I have all the data / coding to do it for different feed rates. I got my 308 from about 30-35 second between charges down to about 12 seconds. My 223 charging went from about 25 seconds to usually 12-15.
I also keep a second small scale going to use to verify.
Also - there is a trick to use a McDonalds straw that is inserted into the feed / trickle tube (with the end cut in a saw tooth pattern) that prevents clumps from forming. Works great.


Very nice setup. I wish I had the room to setup a bench that large.

T2C
12-21-13, 06:31
I have been using a RCBS Chargemaster combo for a few years and have had very good luck with it.