New Elcan Specter TR 1/3/9?

[PatrioticDisorder]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/11/05/innovative-tactional-elcan-specter-tr-tri-fov-scope/

Anyone hear about this?

[coastwatcher42]

I saw that earlier today. I'm very interested to find out more. There should be more info coming soon as SHOT is almost here.

[ptmccain]

Price? Anyone care to take a guess?

I'll say ... $3,000.

[PatrioticDisorder]

Price? Anyone care to take a guess?

I'll say ... $3,000.

Couldn't find that, but 3k minimum would be my expectation. I'd guess closer to or greater than 4k will be the price, but considering they dropped the ARMs mount, it does look very promising. Leupy CQBSS with Horus is $3,700ish so even 4k really wouldn't be shocking.

[VooDoo6Actual]

Interesting.
I can get a NF 2.5x10x24 on the market for $1200-1800 @ 17 ozs & 9.9" add a reliable RDS @1.5 ozs. for about $200-400 for CQB have a net wt of 18.5-19 ozs. w/ variable capability.

Vs. $3,000.00 @ 24 ozs. w/ only 1x 3x 9x .....

I'll pass on that one.

[ALCOAR]

Interesting.
I can get a NF 2.5x10x24 on the market for $1200-1800 @ 17 ozs & 9.9" add a reliable RDS @1.5 ozs. for about $200-400 for CQB have a net wt of 18.5-19 ozs. w/ variable capability.

Vs. $3,000.00 @ 24 ozs. w/ only 1x 3x 9x .....

I'll pass on that one.

Amen brother....that particular primary/secondary optic setup for a few years now has been my "jack of all trades" optic solution over all the rather dissappointing 1-8x types.

If I couldn't have a nxsc 2.5-10x24 w/ T-1......a March Tactical 1-10x would for sure get my coin.

On the plus side....Elcan's look really cool on a rifle :D

[PatrioticDisorder]

Interesting.
I can get a NF 2.5x10x24 on the market for $1200-1800 @ 17 ozs & 9.9" add a reliable RDS @1.5 ozs. for about $200-400 for CQB have a net wt of 18.5-19 ozs. w/ variable capability.

Vs. $3,000.00 @ 24 ozs. w/ only 1x 3x 9x .....

I'll pass on that one.

You forget the mount weight is included on the Elcan but not with traditional scopes which obviously makes a big difference. The advantage of the Elcan would be the quickness and ease with which you can go from 1 to 3 to 9. After you factor in mounts, RMR & NXS you're easily at $2,500. I'm sure many share your opinion, I'm not even sure what way I'll end up going (looking to set up my SCAR 17s), but I think it's a good thing to have more options and competition which pushes other companies to innovate as well.

[ALCOAR]

The advantage of the Elcan would be the quickness and ease with which you can go from 1 to 3 to 9.

You think you can turn a magnification ring all the while staying down in the glass faster than you can simply cant your rifle slightly to the side and bring up your target with a T-1 dot.

My monies on it's faster, easier, and more natural feeling to simply transition from the primary magnified optic to the secondary optic without ever removing your lead/support hand as if you would while manipulating a mag ring.

Just my 2cents.

[PatrioticDisorder]

You think you can turn a magnification ring all the while staying down in the glass faster than you can simply cant your rifle slightly to the side and bring up your target with a T-1 dot.

My monies on it's faster, easier, and more natural feeling to simply transition from the primary magnified optic to the secondary optic without ever removing your lead/support hand as if you would while manipulating a mag ring.

Just my 2cents.

Perhaps, but the Elcan is sure as hell a lot quicker than a traditional LPV, and you could always throw an offset RMR on a gun with an Elcan if you really wanted to. I think an Elcan (on paper at least) could serve as a better dual role optic, having a 1x primary on top of the gun vs. offset has obvious advantages as long as you're good with the BDC. Of course an offset on something like ah nightforce would serve a DMR/SPR set up well.

[VooDoo6Actual]

You forget the mount weight is included on the Elcan but not with traditional scopes which obviously makes a big difference. The advantage of the Elcan would be the quickness and ease with which you can go from 1 to 3 to 9. After you factor in mounts, RMR & NXS you're easily at $2,500. I'm sure many share your opinion, I'm not even sure what way I'll end up going (looking to set up my SCAR 17s), but I think it's a good thing to have more options and competition which pushes other companies to innovate as well.

I just bought a NEW unmounted on weapon ever NF 2.5x10x24 w/ NP-R2 (17 ozs.) on SH for $1,375.00 a Docter Optic ll Plus (1.5 ozs.) for $200.00 on AR15 & a NF 1.175" Unimount 4.6 ozs. for on ebay $175.00=$1,750 vs. $3,000+ That's a NO BRAINER. I'll take the NF glass over the Elcan Specter too any day & every day. It does't mean the Elcan is not good, know your members on the board w/ knowledge & products is what it means.

So I'm at $1,750.00 only approx. $750.00 off your call out of $2,500.00 but what the heck it's only money right ?
Here's the thread of the purchase below. BTW, I didn't take the mount because it's heavier comparatively to other's even though it was a good price. Tells you something if your paying attention.
http://forum.snipershide.com/optics-sale/227685-wts-nightforce-2-5-10x24-new-%2A%2A-spf-%2A%2A.html
I will take the variable w/ Cat tail any day, every day w/ no in between or set limitations on MagX over the other every time. The bottom line is this: I have less money invested, better glass w/ more RET choices, a lower & proven mount, more utility w/ different platforms. Full of Win X10. But you do your thing no worries.

[Slateman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tksIHPqD35Y

Garand Thumb chimes in.

I still don't understand why you would make an optic with greater than 4x magnification and use a BDC reticle.

[mebiuspower]

This sight basically has the same flaw as the 1/4x and 1.5/6x, added to the fact that it looks even more like through a tube...

[Mrgunsngear]

https://i.imgur.com/xmY8IJQl.jpg

Played with one a bit last week. It's....... interesting.