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ST911
01-25-14, 16:44
Manufacturer: Glock, Inc
Model: G42
Serial Number: AAPG###
Production (Test Fire) Date: 12/20/2013

On the web: http://g42.glock.us

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/b8875205-3ab9-4a49-8f1e-b865c5a4d9ac.jpg

Source

This G42 was obtained from a Glock LE distributor at LE pricing of ~$320.00. All costs associated with this review were paid by me.

Unboxing

The Glock 42 ships in the same hard plastic Glock branded box other models ship in. Included in the case are the gun itself, two magazines, promotional and safety literature, a trigger lock, and fired casing(s). The overall appearance of the gun is like its other Glock siblings. Its diminutive size is its greatest distinction from the rest of the line and there is little else noteworthy about it externally. Unloaded, the G42 with empty magazine inserted weighs 13.9oz on my postal scale. Field stripping is accomplished in the same manner as other Glocks.

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Comparison to a Glock gen4 Glock 17

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0333e.jpg

Comparison to a S&W M&P Shield

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0330e.jpg

The upper is detail stripped in the same manner as other Glocks. The serrations on the slide are shallower and have less bite when grasping. The sights are a downsized version of the plastic ball-and-bucket type most Glocks ship with. The rear sight is 6.1mm in height, and the front is the standard OEM front. The firing pin safety and corresponding machining in the slide is unique to the G42. The balance of the slide internals are mostly just miniaturizations of larger Glocks.

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Detail stripping the G42 lower shows some noteworthy differences from other Glocks. There is only the single trigger pin (“first pin”) to remove above the trigger, along with the trigger mechanism housing pin at the rear. The locking block must be removed to remove the slide stop lever. The slide stop lever has a captured coil spring attached to it. The slide lock lever receives its tension from a coil spring beneath it, rather than the leaf spring of the larger Glocks. The trigger spring is a combination of a captured coil spring and leaf bar on top. A small pin/rod runs through both, and then attaches to the interior of the trigger mechanism housing. Disassembly of the trigger mechanism housing is unique to the G42. The grip texture of the lower receiver is the same raised polygonal surface as found on other gen4 models, but less pronounced. It’s not particularly grabby, but there is palpable resistance to slip. The magazine catch is the standard gen4 size and type, and is reversible. The trigger face is smooth.

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The barrel is marked for caliber, and has the Georgia and other Glock proof marks. The RSA is the same type of captive dual spring assembly found on other gen4 Glocks.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0357e.jpg

The magazine is a single stack. It does appear that there is at least a slight stagger of the cartridges in the magazine. The capacity is six rounds, and seven can’t be inserted even with deliberate effort. The witness holes are correct to the number remaining. The spring has 11 coils.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0371.jpg

Only .380 Auto cartridges can be loaded into the magazine. Each of more than two dozen 9mm Luger/Parabellum/NATO length cartridges extend beyond the front wall of the magazine. The 9mm cartridges that came closest to full insertion on the magazine were several Corbon loads, particularly the 95 and 115gr FMJ, 115gr JHP, and 100gr Pow’RBall. Further, the internal dimensions of the magazine well do not allow sufficient clearance for a typical 9mm cartridge to be placed within it, while allowing for a magazine body around it. Photos are of the 115gr Corbon, Federal 147gr HST, and Black Hills Ammunition 115gr Barnes TAC-XP.

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Dry Fire

Initial take up of the trigger is very similar in weight and quality to Glocks equipped with NY1 trigger springs. The break is distinct but travel through it is smooth and improved with work through the session. Over-travel is typical of other Glocks. Trigger reset was distinct, palpable, and audible. The trigger reset felt like something between the reset of a NY1 and NY2 trigger spring.

I conducted a number of different dry-fire handling drills to familiarize myself with the gun. The biggest hurdle in the process was finding an optimal hand placement that was not wholly divergent from my aggressive, high, thumbs-forward grip. I often found my middle finger over the magazine release, ejecting the magazine when squeezing with the support hand. My thumbs tended to rest against the slide, and blocked movement of the slide stop. While gripping the gun, it sat low, disappeared in the hand, and felt like I was holding a gun shaped cell phone instead of a handgun. Dry reloading drills were difficult. The bottom of my hand prevented the magazine from dropping free unless I completely broke my firing grip. Inserting a replacement magazine required the same repositioning. A failure to keep that reposition during insertion painfully pinched my hand between the magwell and magazine floor plate, failed to seat the magazine, and created significant time delays.

When running the slide at speed I found that my hands sometimes slipped on the slide. The thin slide didn't have enough surface area for my hand, and the shallow serrations just didn’t have the bite I needed.

The balance of other dry exercises were quite satisfactory. Once I found a good firing grip I was able to press the trigger through without disrupting the sights, and work the reset. My existing familiarity and proficiency with Glocks and the NY1 trigger was undoubtedly helpful.

Live Fire

The G42 was fired through a series of drills and standards that I commonly use with other guns. As I had no holsters or support equipment, all were fired from a compressed high ready position. Most shooting was not quantified, but I did capture several scores and times. Those are listed here.

10rds @ 25yds, B8 target, standing unsupported
77-0X, ~5” group, close for windage, low for elevation. Fired with a center-hold.
A second group fired holding at the top of the 9-ring held all within the 8-ring, most within the 9-ring.

One 12:00 ejection hit the slide on its way back down.

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F2 to 3x5 index card, 7yds
Low clean, 1.54
High clean, 1.80
Average (all), 1.69

F5 to A-zone
3yd, 2.27 C, 1.59 C
5yd, 2.04 C
7yd, 1.99 -1, 2.00 C
10yd, 2.71 C

After several more repetitions, times for this drill from the ready stayed at or below ~2sec regardless of distance (3-10).

50rd LE POST qual course
50/50
47/50 (run at 3sec par)

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Summary

Ammunition run-down
107rds PMC 90gr FMJ (380A)
50rds Federal RTP 95gr FMJ (RT38095)
30rds Winchester FMJ
24rds misc u/k
12rds CCI Blazer FMJ
8rds Hornady JHP-XTP
7rds Federal Hydra-Shok
6rds Hornady Critical Defense
6rds Winchester Silvertips
6rds Remington Golden Sabre
6rds Winchester Ranger

This G42 had the best fighting potential of any compact or subcompact .380 I’ve fired. It demonstrated as much potential for accurate hits at speed or in slow fire as larger Glocks in the line, and much more flexibility than the .380 competitors of its type. The G42 shot flat, and stayed on target with little perceptible muzzle rise or recoil. I was able to maintain low-splits (~.25), consistent six to seven round cadences, and stay on -0 or A-zone sized targets after some familiarization. Farther above, I noted that the grip texturing on the G42 was less pronounced than on other gen4 guns. It was more than sufficient for the amount of recoil control needed for this gun.

Reloading and stoppage clearance procedures may be more difficult for those with large hands or other unique grip issues.

The bulk of shooting was done with Federal and PMC training ammunition. At least one magazine load of several commonly available carry loads were also fired. Most consumers will buy a quantity of ammunition to practice with, but only a single 20rd box or two of a carry load. Often content to shoot one magazine of that carry ammunition, the remaining rounds are loaded in to the gun and the gun is relied upon thereafter. The number of rounds fired prevents a real reliability measure, but is reflective of what will actually be found on the street.

The G42 would not reliably feed several rounds of the aluminum cased Blazer. The first Blazer round inserted in the gun would not chamber from slide lock. There was one stovepipe. There were no other ammunition-related malfunctions, but several that were shooter induced. When my thumb was placed against the slide, intentionally or otherwise, stovepipes followed. There was also a single failure to unlock the gun after firing due to my thumb. This occurred only with the lighter impulsed rounds.

Except for an early 12:00 ejection that struck the slide, ejection was brisk and consistent with a solid grip. When deliberately reducing grip pressure or shooting WHO, it was more erratic but still to the right 1-3 feet.

I found the G42 ideally suited to roles in which deepest concealment is critical and/or as a secondary/back-up gun. It’s quirks in reloading and refunctioning make it a compromise solution for a primary gun. Those carrying it as such must understood and practice for its limitations. The G42 also appears to be another viable 50-state CCW solution for those who travel.

I would like to see an extended length magazine made available for the G42. Not for the additional capacity, but for the added area to locate and index a reload, as well as reduce the amount of repositioning needed during a reload. I would recommend that such an extended magazine not include a spacer sleeve of any kind.

Total rounds this session: 262
Cumulative total: 262

RWH24
01-25-14, 19:59
Very Good Review. Always enjoy your observations. I was surprised at the size difference between the G42 and Shield. I saw Hickok45's YT review the other day on the G42.

FAB45
01-26-14, 01:04
Great review, thanks.

SeriousStudent
01-26-14, 01:23
I got to handle one of these today at an LGS. My thoughts echo yours regarding an extended magazine.

I honestly was surprised at how small it was.

Mike169
01-26-14, 09:12
I've seen several reviews key on one a single specific fact, which is that this gun is much more comfortable to shoot than the micro 380s out there. Yes, an LCP is significantly smaller than this weapon, but does anyone actually enjoy shooting that gun? I definitely do not, in fact I hate shooting my LCP. I bet I put less than 50 rounds through it per year, just enough to qualify and maybe a magazine here or there at the range.

The real question comes down to shootability between this weapon and a PM/CM9 or a shield. I'm not going to toss banners in the sky and decry the ballistics of the .380acp, but 9mm is undeniably a more powerful round. If a gun is going to match dimensions with weapons in 9mm, then it needs to be more controllable and more pleasant to shoot in order to replace the latter weapons (IMHO).

Big A
01-26-14, 10:01
I have to admit that my interest in this Glock is growing. I'm not really a fan of .380ACP but this pistol may change that.

Skintop, could you post a picture of it in your hand showing how much your fingers wrap around the grip?
And maybe a comparison pic to a Ruger LCP & Walther PPK?

Glock30
01-26-14, 10:33
LGS has them for $399.99. Got my hands on it and it's nice, but I'm not willing to unload my keltec 3at or my 9mm sw shield for it. Single stack 9mm in this size from glock would have turned more heads in my opinion. Glock fans will buy them like hotcakes just because it says G L O C K ;) and that's cool. enjoy.



And maybe a comparison pic to a Ruger LCP & Walther PPK?

exactly. apples to apples, right! comparing it to a 9mm shiled does nothing for me.

I think this video compares it for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LskihWv3ALw

montanadave
01-26-14, 10:56
Thanks for a detailed, informative review. Nicely done.

ericridebike
01-26-14, 11:03
Great review, thanks for sharing. Looks like it would serve well as a back up for LE that carry Glock as standard sidearm for platform familiarity. For me still looks a little big for most pocket carry with standard sized pockets where my LCP does well. It does look like it will be more comfortable/easier to shoot than the LCP sized platforms. Still think they missed the mark by not producing it as a 9mm, but i'm sure they will sell tons of them anyway.

ST911
01-26-14, 11:14
Still think they missed the mark by not producing it as a 9mm, but i'm sure they will sell tons of them anyway.

Don't think of it from an enthusiast's perspective. Think of it from a business model. Glock already has a presence in the compact 9mm market in the US with the G26. They have no share of the pocket / more-compact market where .380 is reigning. Existing and prospective Glock users are having that niche supplied exclusively by the competition, a more urgent hole in the boat for GI than the lack of yet another 9mm.

Size, weight, and price are critical selection criteria for many buyers and the market niche that's trying to being reached. A 9mm would come in at a greater measure of each, and other than being new in the manufacturer's line, it isn't nearly as novel as the G42.

ST911
01-26-14, 11:17
Skintop, could you post a picture of it in your hand showing how much your fingers wrap around the grip? And maybe a comparison pic to a Ruger LCP & Walther PPK?

More reference pics are coming. Stay tuned. The standard frame/G42 and Shield/G42 comparisons were the most frequent associations made, so they ended being first.

TACTICAL45
01-26-14, 15:08
Great review, I am waiting for a G42 to come to my local shop. I have large hands and will have to see if it is "the one" for me. I have a S&W Body Guard .380 that was a x-mas gift. Fits great in the back pocket, don't care for the safety, too hard to find and too stiff to manipulate easily for me. To be honest, I haven't shot it since I got it two years ago....

Will545
01-26-14, 19:33
Great review and I think it shows there will be no 9mm or .40 g42 sized glock, ever.

ST911
01-26-14, 21:00
Here are some more comparison pics.

G26 (L), G42 (R)

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0403e.jpg

SW442 (L), G42 (R)

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0400e.jpg

P3AT (L), G42 (R)

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0402e.jpg

All four together

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0405e.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0408e.jpg

Judging by the mk1 eyeball, the G42 shares angles with the standard (~5#) connector of its siblings.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0415e.jpg

Trigger spring assembly, disassembled.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0421.jpg

SHO grip

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0435e.jpg

Both hands, note height of thumbs. Keeping them off the slide requires deliberate effort.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0436e.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0437e.jpg

Redhat
01-26-14, 22:30
Here are some more comparison pics.

Both hands, note height of thumbs. Keeping them off the slide requires deliberate effort.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0436e.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0437e.jpg

Assuming you have "average" size hands, the idea of firing this pistol using a thumbs forward grip looks like a no-go to me. It also appears a magazine release on the bottom of the grip might have been a better idea?

OldGreg
01-27-14, 15:28
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/Skintop911/Glock42/IMG_0347.jpg

The double dash on a rear sight means it's an extra tall sight, right? If so, damn... i have some spare Ameriglo's but they are all regular height rears.

PS- Perhaps i'm just a wimp, but is the main frame pin hard as heck to remove? I have a 42, and I gave up on pushing the pin out.. I haven't taken a hammer/punch to it, but I've never had issues or needed to hammer out a pin with my other (seven) Glock's.

ST911
01-27-14, 16:03
Assuming you have "average" size hands, the idea of firing this pistol using a thumbs forward grip looks like a no-go to me. It also appears a magazine release on the bottom of the grip might have been a better idea?

I don't think it will be a problem for most, and it didn't present a problem in shooting.

The photo illustrates where my thumbs want to go, consistent with my usual grip. I have to adjust them somewhat to keep them away from the muzzle.


The double dash on a rear sight means it's an extra tall sight, right? If so, damn... i have some spare Ameriglo's but they are all regular height rears.

Short sight.


PS- Perhaps i'm just a wimp, but is the main frame pin hard as heck to remove? I have a 42, and I gave up on pushing the pin out.. I haven't taken a hammer/punch to it, but I've never had issues or needed to hammer out a pin with my other (seven) Glock's.

Mine came out pretty easily. The mag floor plates were a bear though.

LtDave
01-27-14, 19:48
The double dash on a rear sight means it's an extra tall sight, right? If so, damn... i have some spare Ameriglo's but they are all regular height rears.

It's actually a 6.1 mm rear, shorter than the standard 6.5 mm. Lone Wolf has Glock OEM 6.1 mm night sights, but the rear is too wide without some trimming. Ameriglo has G42 sights on the website, but were out of stock as of yesterday.

RWH24
01-27-14, 19:59
I had been carrying a Bersa Thunder 380 for years. Accurate and comfortable to shoot. It is PP size and all metal making it heavier.
My KAHR P380 is a handful shooting fast.

Big A
02-01-14, 18:58
I got to rent one of these today. It shoots very tame to the other 380s I've tried. I was impressed with this little bugger and hope a single stack 9mm will be coming out in the next year or sooner.

steyrman13
02-01-14, 19:11
I shot my friend's today. Keep in mind it was brand new and we were breaking it in. Shoot PMC bronze, I had a few brass to the forearm. On one firing, the last fired round flip straight up about 6" and landed right back on the magazine follower sitting with the primer to the rear. It was interesting, but probably a non issue since it was the last round.
The recoil and feel is much better than an LCP IMHO.

Big A
02-04-14, 10:34
I got to rent one of these today. It shoots very tame to the other 380s I've tried. I was impressed with this little bugger and hope a single stack 9mm will be coming out in the neseated properly in the mag, ear or sooner.

I just want to add, the gun failed to feed twice. And failed to fire once. I think the failure to feed was user induced. I think I bumped the slide release up during rapid fire, the rounds were still seated properly in the mag, not jammed into the feed ramp. The failure to fire I chalk up to using Atlanta Arms Ammo (it's what the range sells for use) and I always seem to have at least one dud round in a box of fifty. The primer was dimpled as deeply as all the spent casings. Probably didn't have any powder in it.

ScottsBad
02-04-14, 11:29
Just wanted to say thank you for the review. I've been very curious about this pistol.

houdini23
02-05-14, 17:55
Nice write up! Ran 180 rounds though mine yesterday. Some Aguilla FMJ ammo, federal hydra shock, Barnes TacX, and some +P buffalo bore flat nose. Had several failures of various types through first 40 rounds of Aguilla. The pistol absolutely would not eject the Barnes ammo. Decided to break it in proper with 20 rounds of +P buffalo bore which functioned fine and after that ammo it started to function properly with all the ammo except the Barnes. I think it'll be fine after another range session and more of a break in period. Accuracy was good. Not exceptional by any means but good. Ergonomics were also good. It's very small in the hand and recoil was extremely manageable and mild ( with the exception of the +p loads). The +p loads gave it a nice little kick in the hand. Think once I start to carry this one i will carry +p exclusively. The gun seems to function better with +p and surely it won't hurt the performance of those 380 rounds. Side by side with a g19, the 42 trigger was stiffer and longer. Not a bad pull, just different. All in all... I like it as a backup or small carry weapon. Mines needs a few hundred mre rounds to break in but I am confident it'll start running much better. As previously stated by OP, it takes deliberate effort to keep thumbs off of slide when firing. I do not think this attributed to the issues I was having with mine but I had on gloves and my hands could have inadvertently interfered with slide once or twice.

Examples of failures I experienced.

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2148/3057962/24032257/408679610.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2148/3057962/24032257/408679611.jpg

ucrt
02-05-14, 21:22
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Just started a thread with my question

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cathellsk
02-07-14, 21:19
I picked up a blue label G42 a couple weeks ago. Finally shot it Tuesday and didn't have any issues but one. I had seen a video or read online about dropping the slide with the slide release to chamber Hornady Critical Defense and it hanging up which it did do several times. It ran fine with it though and if you sling shot the slide to chamber there were no issues either. I put just shy of 300rds down range that day...50rds of Remington UMC FMJs, 50rds of PPU FMJs, 100rds of Winchester FMJs, 25rds of Hornady Critical Defense, a mag of Buffalo Bore 100gr. hard cast lead flat points, and a few mags of PMC and another brand I can't remember FMJs a friend brought. Ran like a top through all of that and was accurate too. Had no problem keeping them in the center ring of our qualification targets at 7 and 15yds. Next time I'm going to try out to 25 for giggles to see what it can do.

I have a couple friends that got one each also and they were ringing gongs at 50 and 100yds with theirs.

Shooting characteristics were as others have stated, mild recoil and a heavy trigger compared to other Glocks but not too bad. Hardly noticed it while shooting it. I love my J frames but I have to really try to keep good groups. Shooting the G42 was alot easier like a full size pistol, just in an anemic cartridge compared to the NYPD load in my Js.

Ameriglo has night sights for them but are out currently. As soon as they come in I'm getting the Operator versions to put on mine. I was also told MGW is making a plate for their existing sight tool to work on the G42s.

Mark71
04-06-14, 15:06
How are you guys liking the 42 so far? With the warmer weather approaching, I am looking to pick one up. I am not happy about having to find and buy .380 but it feels great in my hand and I really like the size. It also sounds like this gun is actually shootable unlike other .380's and micro 9mm's.

djr46
04-14-14, 09:03
I carry a 42 in my pocket. Handy. I've got zero problems with mine After I installed Pearce mag extensions on mags. They make the 42 fit like a glove in my hand.
The mag floor plate is a Bear to remove, but I used a plastic jawed Panavise to exert the req'd pressure to release the slotted area at edges of mag floor plates.
That's the hardest thing using the 42, so far anyway.....
I love the pistol and don't feel as if you give up much dropping from a "full grown" 9mm to 9mm Short.....
DJ


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jck397
04-14-14, 18:11
Thanks for the great review! I know a lot of people are less than impressed with the 42 concept, but I'm actually pretty excited to pick it up, as I have a carry niche that it will fill very nicely. I also suspect that, between the perfect size of the 19 as an all-around gun, the 26 giving me a decent "real" gun in a very compact package, the ability to carry full-size mags to back up mid-size and compact guns, ease of maintenance and parts availability, and now a viable shootable pocket pistol, that I'm pretty much married to the Glock platform for the foreseeable future, and I should probably stop resisting and just assimilate...

ST911
04-17-14, 15:40
UPDATE (03/21/2014)

Ammunition run-down
200rds Black Hills Ammunition 90gr JHP-XTP
100rds Black Hills Ammunition 100gr FMJ

300rds of two BHA loads were fired through the G42. Exercises included a qualification course of fire, multi-round responses, mag-capacity responses, and slow-fire bullseye exercises at various ranges. An attempt to chrono some loads out of this G42 were unsuccessful due to tech problems.

10rds @ 10yds, B8 bullseye- With a center-hold, this group measured about 3-3/4" inclusive of a flier. Discarding the flier, the group was slightly under 3". This was with the XTPs.

10rds @ 25yds, B8 bullseye- Holding at the top of the 9-ring on the B8, the rounds were concentrated about 1” outside the bottom of the 9-ring, correct for windage. The best 10rd group at 25yds was about 3-3/4". Firing other groups, I was able to center them on the page when I held at or about the top of the page. This XTP is the accuracy leader to date.

I had several (~5) shooter-induced stoppages during multi-round responses. My grip either ejected the magazine causing failures to feed or my thumbs rode the slide impeding its travel, causing stovepipes. The stoppages were typical of those experienced previously and were reasonably obvious as they occurred. To isolate shooter/grip issues, I fired several V-block exercises, SHO and WHO without issue. Without shooter induced issues, the combination(s) of gun and ammo were reliable.

While on the range, another shooter with interest in the G42 fired about four magazines through the gun. He had smaller hands, a less aggressive and lower-riding grip, and had no issues.

These 90gr XTPs are published at 1000fps, and it shoots like a full-power .380 load. Nonetheless, felt recoil was minimal. These guns tend to run best with full-impulse ammo, and this one is no exception.

Total rounds this session: 300
Cumulative total: 562

djegators
04-18-14, 01:00
Thank you very much for the thorough review. I'd say I agree with your conclusions, and find the 42 to be by far the most shootable 380 I've spent much time with. In fact, I was never too interested in any of them, but after shooting it at SHOT, I had to have one, and got it very soon after getting back from Vegas. I did witness one person with large hands get some slide bite, but my meat hooks have not been bitten. Interesting that the magazine is a 1.5 stack. I like to pocket carry with a Remora holster...small and light...not much different than carrying my phone. I am eager to try some Pearce grip extensions, I think that might really round out this pistol.

http://www.pearcegrip.com/image/7/PG-42_2

decodeddiesel
04-18-14, 13:14
I was set on picking up a S&W 442 no lock as a BUG/deep cover piece. I'm still leaning towards it, but the G42 is certainly getting my attention. I just am not a fan of the ballistics of the .380. I enjoy seeing your feedback Skintop.

number1olddog
04-19-14, 07:54
I shot a buddies G42 along with a BG380 that I bought recently. The 42 was much nicer to shoot but did have two bobbles with AE 95gr ball (FTE) out of 50 rounds. I shot both guns at 10 yards and shot the BG a little better as it is easier to stage the trigger even though it's a long hard trigger pull. I will be picking up a G42 in the future.

decodeddiesel
04-19-14, 17:35
I had been carrying a Bersa Thunder 380 for years. Accurate and comfortable to shoot. It is PP size and all metal making it heavier.
My KAHR P380 is a handful shooting fast.

I had a Bersa Thunder back in 2009. I sent it back in for repairs twice for serious failure to eject problems (couldn't make it 3 consecutive rounds between problems) before I finally sold it at a loss with full disclosure. It left a bitter taste in my mouth on the brand to say the least.

I had a S&W PPK (non-S) that I absolutely loved. Machining was rough, and the DA trigger was insanely heavy, but man that little pistol could shoot. Ex-wife took it, and honestly it was way too heavy for what it was.

Never had any desire to own an LCP. Shot one on 3 or more occasions and hated it. I appreciate how concealable it is, but that's it. Same with the Keltec.

This Glock is the first 380 I have had a desire to own in a long time. I'm just having a hard time justifying it over a S&W 442.

kingfhb
04-19-14, 17:51
Love mine... 300 rounds, no issues so far. Monarch .380s

I have XS night sights, NDZ extended magazine release, talon grips, and Pearce magazine extensions on it already. Waiting for a lighter spring, trigger bar, extended slide stop release, etc.

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ST911
04-19-14, 17:55
Love mine... 300 rounds, no issues so far. Monarch .380s

I have XS night sights, NDZ extended magazine release, talon grips, and Pearce magazine extensions on it already. Waiting for a lighter spring, trigger bar, extended slide stop release, etc.

Can you discuss your choice of mods, the reasoning behind them, what they've done for you?

kingfhb
04-19-14, 18:13
Well, the magazine release was because I felt that the factory release was too recessed and I had to tilt the weapon to release the magazine.

The XS big dot night sights are self explanatory. I have them on all my Glocks. The best sights for fast target acquisition.

The Pearce grips are another gimme. I hate my 5th digit falling off the grip... The Pearce is perfect to stop that.

I looked at the extended mag release and magazine extensions from Galloway Precision, but they make them on a "prototyper" (fancy word for 3D printer)... And they are rough to the touch and look flimsy. The extended magazine release I got from them didn't even fit properly. Granted, they're new so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. They also make a +1 mag extension, but it's bulky and not very attractive at all. Still made on the same printer as well.

The talon grips are just amazing and again, I have them on all my Glocks. There are two kinds, sandpaper and rubber... I prefer the rubber, but the sandpaper definitely work better. Though they grab your shirt when concealed.

I have a DeSantis hybrid IWB holster for it that conceals it very nicely.

As for the other future upgrades...

I prefer a 3# trigger pull. So a trigger bar and spring set would achieve that.

I also prefer a stainless or titanium guide rod instead of the polymer rod that is glocks OEM. They add weight to the fore end and lower recoil.

The extended slide stop release is yet another item on all my glocks... It is just 10x easier and faster to actuate the release with the extended lever.

There are some others I would do (if they even become available for the G42)... Like stainless pins, stainless take down lever, stainless slide stop lever, ClipDraw, aluminum trigger, titanium safety and firing pin, etc etc etc.


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gun71530
04-19-14, 19:59
How does the G42 compare in size to the G26?

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decodeddiesel
04-19-14, 20:39
Skintop did a great comparison in Post 14 of this thread.

Readers Digest Version, the G42 is WAY thinner than the G26.

gun71530
04-19-14, 20:41
Skintop did a great comparison in Post 14 of this thread.

Readers Digest Version, the G42 is WAY thinner than the G26.

Thanks, I don't know how I missed that.

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kingfhb
04-19-14, 20:46
How does the G42 compare in size to the G26?

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The 26 is about 1/3 wider and about an inch taller than the 42.


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