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A guy is wanting to sell my FIL this Poly Tech AK-47/S. I must admit I know very little about a AK-47 and my FIL knows even less than I do about them. I have heard that a Chinese Poly Tech is a desirable AK and that they are pre-ban.
This is what I know about it.
Poly Tech made in Beijing, China and apparently imported by KFS in Atlanta, GA.
Milled receiver. On the left side, just below the breach, is marked 386 P47 05XXX.
Would come with 8 30rd mags (I think they are 30s) marked Poly / China on the bottom. One 40rd mag marked Made in China.
Approx. 400 rds of 7.62x39 ammo.
What would this firearm, mags and ammo be worth? I don't have a clue.
FIL doesn't seem that interested but, I might.
Any input would be appreciated.
Here are some pics.
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz229/Scoby/AK471_zps135a2c72.jpg (http://s830.photobucket.com/user/Scoby/media/AK471_zps135a2c72.jpg.html)
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz229/Scoby/AK472_zps746a0b07.jpg (http://s830.photobucket.com/user/Scoby/media/AK472_zps746a0b07.jpg.html)
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz229/Scoby/AK473_zps74feb4dc.jpg (http://s830.photobucket.com/user/Scoby/media/AK473_zps74feb4dc.jpg.html)
Worth more now than a few years ago. What is the asking price?
According to this recent article, about $1650.
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/04/16/chinese-kalashnikov-the-poly-tech-aks-762/
That's a good looking gun. That's also a 40rd mag I believe. If it's for a good price I would scoop that up. My room mate just got a norinco NHM91 or something like that that looks like a RPK and it appears to be good quality. I think it is Chinese as well. (Could be wrong)
It's worth whatever you or someone else is willing to pay for it. The prices depend on a variety of factors, but these are no longer importable and you are getting what appears to be a very well kept weapon. The mags for this can sell for as much as 30.00-40.00 each as I recall. The ammo is no big deal. You can buy 1000 rounds of 762x39 for under 250.00. Is there an original box, manual and the standard accessories that come with it? Should be a cleaning kit, oiler/solvent set, bayonet and some canvass pouch as I recall.
http://www.vaguntrader.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/659277/Polytech_Legend_AK-47..Pre_Ban#.UwmlfeNdWSo
Nice rifle. Buy that bad girl if the price is decent.
Cagemonkey
02-23-14, 06:58
Looks like a preban Legend Series that someone put a 74 Comp on. I agree that $1500-1750 would be fair IMO.
There is no box, bayonet, sling or manual for this. It does have the cleaning kit in the buttstock. Brush, jag and a small tool.
The ammo probably isn't worth much. Appears to be a bunch of miscellaneous manufactured stuff. Brass and steel cased.
The gun really is in good shape. Very few wear or use marks on it.
Both the links reference a "Legend". What makes one of these a "Legend" or are all of them "Legends"?
What about the muzzle device / brake on this thing? Most of the AKs I've seen have the slanted MD on them. Is this original to the gun?
Removable? It has some wobble to it and is indexed to the barrel by a pin on the front sight.
AKs don't interest me much. I like my ARs. However, this apparently has some collector value and is well made. It is the nicest AK I've ever held in my hands.
It seems it is well worth the asking price of $800.00 for the whole deal. PawPaw has first refusal. I have second dibs. If he doesn't buy it I think I will just for the investment value it brings.
Looks like a preban Legend Series that someone put a 74 Comp on. I agree that $1500-1750 would be fair IMO.
It seems you posted while I was typing.
Is the MD removable? Should it be removed from a originality standpoint?
Cagemonkey
02-23-14, 07:22
It seems you posted while I was typing.
Is the MD removable? Should it be removed from a originality standpoint?The comp should come off no problem. Push in on the spring loaded retaining/indexing pin and unscrew. For authenticity sake, yes. Its not permeant, so leave it on if you like.
$800 for what appears to be a Legend in good to very good condition is a steal. Quick Gunbroker check had polytechs going for $2500 to $3500. Legends are typically mentioned as about the top milled AK with the Arsenal Classics.
If you don't want it, get me the guys contact info and I'll grab it!
Leave that muzzle brake on there and go shoot it. You will be pleasantly surprised I would think. I would also pick it up at that price in a heartbeat.
For 800.00 I would have have run from the computer and snapped it up.
I told him what you guys had to say about this earlier today and let him know it was worth approximately twice the asking price. Give or take.
He took the man $800 a while ago and now owns it. I knew he would when I told him the value. He'll probably never shoot it but, my son and I put about 50rds through it today.
I also told him I expect him to leave it to me when he kicks off since I provided him with such good intel. ;)
Heavy Metal
02-23-14, 18:30
The correct Muzzle-nut can be had.
That rifle screams out to be period correct, what makes it worth so much is the fact that it is a correct Type 3 pattern AK-47 clone. The 74 brake is not Halal on that one.
Heavy Metal
02-23-14, 18:31
Just make sure you don't shoot corrosive and put it up. And take the brake off and clean under it when you shoot it too.
How did it shoot and how did that brake handle? I personally like the 74 style brake but would pick up and original style just to show off.
The AK shot really nice. I only shot about 10rds through it. My son shot the rest. He loves it.
Muzzle rise was minimal. Not familiar with AKs so I don't know for sure if it can be attributed to the muzzle device. Muzzle rise was similar to my midlength AR with the ACC Brakeout Comp.
Where would someone put there hands on the correct device?
BTW Going to clean it up while I watch people turn left and go round and round.
Heavy Metal
02-23-14, 21:37
http://www.amazon.com/AK47-Barrel-Bushing-Muzzle-Nut/dp/B00D1U8792
It's sold by Keng's Firearms so it is a genuine Polytech part.
Fun Factoid. Over two decades ago I ordered some stuff from Keng's firearms in Atlanta.
I talked to young at the time Sean Keng, Sean took my order.
Sean is the grandson of Deng Xaioping, former and at the time of that call, Premier of China after the death of Mao.
Here's a picture of a 47/s with correct muzzle nut.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/45Bravo/DSC02265.jpg
And here is where you can buy a correct, original Polytech muzzle nut for $12.
http://stores.polytechparts.com/ak47-barrel-bushing-muzzle-nut-chinese-ak-rifle-fits-polytech/
http://www.amazon.com/AK47-Barrel-Bushing-Muzzle-Nut/dp/B00D1U8792
It's sold by Keng's Firearms so it is a genuine Polytech part.
Fun Factoid. Over two decades ago I ordered some stuff from Keng's firearms in Atlanta.
I talked to young at the time Sean Keng, Sean took my order.
Sean is the grandson of Deng Xaioping, former and at the time of that call, Premier of China after the death of Mao.
Thanks for the link Heavy.
I followed your Amazon link to the Poly Technologies site. I see the slanted device on there. He may like that better than the flush type.
I'll talk to the old man and see what he wants to do.
Premier of China's grandson. Wow! It is a small world huh?
So the slanted type muzzle nut is not the correct original part?
Is that one yours Steyr?
The inventor of the Mult-Tasker is also the son of Mr. Keng who founded KFS.
http://www.amazon.com/AK47-Barrel-Bushing-Muzzle-Nut/dp/B00D1U8792
It's sold by Keng's Firearms so it is a genuine Polytech part.
Fun Factoid. Over two decades ago I ordered some stuff from Keng's firearms in Atlanta.
I talked to young at the time Sean Keng, Sean took my order.
Sean is the grandson of Deng Xaioping, former and at the time of that call, Premier of China after the death of Mao.
Heavy Metal
02-24-14, 00:35
So the slanted type muzzle nut is not the correct original part?
Is that one yours Steyr?
No, the slanted brake did not come into use till the AKM. The Nut I posted a link to is the period correct device for your particular rifle.
Heavy Metal
02-24-14, 00:39
If you are so inclined, just get both as they are cheap. But the plain nut is technically correct.
Heavy Metal
02-24-14, 00:41
And the link Steyr gave you is the direct link. The amazon link is to the same people, just thru their Amazon storefront so if you have an Amazon account, it will make ordering simpler.
Thanks for the link Heavy.
I followed your Amazon link to the Poly Technologies site. I see the slanted device on there. He may like that better than the flush type.
I'll talk to the old man and see what he wants to do.
Premier of China's grandson. Wow! It is a small world huh?
Get both. The slant brake is more functional, but the muzzle nut is correct for the rifle.
So the slanted type muzzle nut is not the correct original part?
Is that one yours Steyr?
Not mine, just a picture of one. The slant one is a brake. The muzzle nut is basically just a thread protector but correct configuration for a Type 3 (milled rifle). The slant brake is generally associated with the AKM (stamped receiver rifle) and not the AK-47.
Gotcha. I'll probably get both and let him decide. They're cheap.
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