View Full Version : What slim round feeling handguard would you choose
In the process of building a second 11.5" upper that will be dedicated to iron sights and light weight.
I have found that I get better pointability with slim round feeling handguards for speed in close...
what do you recommend?
Choose the MI Gen 2 in FDE pics in page 3 post.
My carbine is 16, not 11.5, but I like my DD MFR.
Midwest Industries Gen 2 SS series.
The MI handguards and the troys are both nice IMO. I have the troy right now on my 11.5 bcm but I am planning to swap over to the BCM key mod one of these days because it is a lot lighter than the troy rail. I know its not "round" but its pretty close. So if weight is a concern that's what I would choose.
My Centurion CMR feels the best. New BCM KMR feels almost as good, has grippier texture and is lighter. Love both.
Ned Christiansen
03-07-14, 10:36
My current fave is the Diamondhead. Super slim, natural feel, not all prickly but grippy enough.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x160/308sako/SBR115build.jpg
This is my first 11.5 upper, and it showed me the way to light weight portable maneuverable happiness.
Lower is a mega with MagPul CTR, MIAD in FDE with Giessele SD-E FWIW.
Appreciate the suggestions, will post a picture when it's complete.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x160/308sako/SBR115build.jpg
This is my first 11.5 upper, and it showed me the way to light weight portable maneuverable happiness.
Lower is a mega with MagPul CTR, MIAD in FDE with Giessele SD-E FWIW.
Appreciate the suggestions, will post a picture when it's complete.
I really like the NSR, I feel like it's the perfect size. Unfortunately for your particular setup, you'd need a new gas block as it's too big.
Jwknutson17
03-07-14, 22:44
The Samson is round and feels alright. Noveske keymod and bcm KMR are very good ergonomically. Finish on BCM KMR is sub par in my opinion. Geissele mk1 is my favorite. Oval shaped. Lots of options these days.
NSR or KMR. I'd be putting a KAC URX 3.1 10.75 on it, if it were me.
I put a CMR on a DDV7 and really like the weight and feel shooting this rifle. Fairly easy installation. It's been through a couple of classes and a lot of rounds.
Lots of good options mentioned.
I was in the same situation as you. I wanted something super slim and durable. I did a bunch of research and eventually ended up with the Novekse NSR rail. heres a photo of me wrapping my hand around the rail. I have pretty small hands and I can get a VERY good C-clamp on the rail. Hope this helps you a little bit. good luck!
http://i57.tinypic.com/2heeucp.jpg
https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2505
https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse&category=railedforearms_vikingtactics
https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse&category=forearms/railsystems_noveske
https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse&category=railedforearms_rainierarms
http://dsgarms.com/midwest-industries-gen-2-ss-series-free-float-handguard-system
SilverBullet432
03-08-14, 22:43
Slim, round-ish. Nsr
No shoes...
No shirt...
NOVESKE!
I really like the MFR on my Daniel Defense V7, but if I were choosing something today, I think I would give the ALG rail a shot http://algdefense.com/rails.html
Quick Draw
03-09-14, 08:23
I really like the Samson on my 16" carbine. Fits my medium size hands just right.
bakercountyboy
03-09-14, 08:38
Go with the NSR
Voodoo_Man
03-09-14, 09:41
I have an 11.5 inch NSR. Its pretty awesome, highly recommended.
Http://i.imgur.com/l1O2LnZ.jpg
NSR was worked OK for me. I suspect there are at least a few other brands that I'd have been just as happy with. For gear-obsessors, it's easy to overthink this purchase.
http://SSEquine.net/noveskensr2s.jpg
It is very hard to find data on the outside diameter of the Troy Alpha or the Noveske NSR.
The newer Apex is 1.970", The Rainer from above post is 1.80" and the MI Gen 2 is 1.50".
I felt the ALG Defense at SHOT and truly liked that option and support the Giessele clan to the tune of three triggers already.
For weight considerations and specification so far the MI remains in the lead. I hope someone would post the outside diameter of the troy and NSR options.
Thanks all
The Troy alpha rails are 1.72".
The Geissele MK1/MK3 are round-ish...
BrigandTwoFour
03-09-14, 11:57
Centurion CMR, BCM KMR, Samson/Rainier evolution, Apex gatorgrip.
Pick what's in your budget.
How does the Apex feel in your hands? Is it pretty rigid and have any flex?
SilverBullet432
03-09-14, 12:10
Centurion CMR, BCM KMR, Samson/Rainier evolution, Apex gatorgrip.
Pick what's in your budget.
Kmr and nsr and basically in the same ballpark when it comes to $$ the kmr does have its +'s tho
B5 Keymod hand guards are very slim - for $28.00 you can't go wrong, no shipping charge.
I swapped out the big, clunky military style hand guards (I'm sure there's some sort of nomenclature, but I don't know what it is...) for the B5 Keymods and what a difference.
Plus, they were a snap to change out, but I guess they should be since I have a Delta ring tool.
Steel head
03-09-14, 12:26
I'd also look at the SLR stuff
I have a SOLO, round with slightly raised flats.
Comfy, sturdy and light.
How does the Apex feel in your hands? Is it pretty rigid and have any flex? The 9" version I have seems to be very rigid. Nice combination of traction without being abrasive. It fits my large-ish hands very well.
the ALG rail or the midwest genII ff or the BRAVO kmr are the ones that get my vote for slim light and rugged i own them all
Noveske NSR or Mega MKM
Sent On The Fly
TacticalMark
03-09-14, 15:56
Centurion CMR, on a budget Troy Alpha or the new ALG rail looks tempting.
I have a VTAC Troy rail on my recce and just ordered another for my GP gun. They are very slim and can be adapted to any role.
I run an NSR on my 8" blackout, and a Midwest Industries Gen II SS on my 11.5" sbr and 204 Ruger. I recommend either one, but I really like the MI tube a lot.
SouthPaw970
03-09-14, 18:42
I'm partial to Troy. They are well built and very light. Here is my BCM 11.5 with a troy rail.
http://s9.postimg.org/bd1f8azrz/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
http://s9.postimg.org/nq9o1h02n/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
BillyJack2012
03-09-14, 18:55
Troy felt like a cheese grater to me. Sampson or Rainier.
How does the Apex feel in your hands? Is it pretty rigid and have any flex?
This is an older Apex and it is great, but the MI Gen 2's I have felt are definitely narrower. The Apex is rock solid kit, love the textured surface.
quaesitor logica
03-09-14, 19:10
Another vote for the M.I SSGEN2
Another vote for the M.I SSGEN2
Ditto!
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
I have an 11.5 inch NSR. Its pretty awesome, highly recommended.
Http://i.imgur.com/l1O2LnZ.jpg
Good picture, as much as I would like to talk trash, its the wrong board so I will go hassle you over there. :-D
funkybassplayer
03-09-14, 19:46
Midwest Industries Gen 2 SS series.
+1
I love the small circumference of my MI Gen2 SS hand guard. This is the 15" rail on my 16" rifle but their 10" would prolly be ideal. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/10/pege7yje.jpg
-BTO-
Troy felt like a cheese grater to me. Sampson or Rainier.
Agreed. The Troy VTAC is much nicer on the ungloved hands.
Big Bronze Rim
03-10-14, 13:08
Another vote here for the Centurion CMR. I switched from a Troy Bravo rail and couldn't be happier. It's lighter, slimmer and doesn't require rail covers to prevent it from acting like a cheese grater. Plus the machining and finish on the CMR is far superior.
DMViergever
03-10-14, 14:42
I just had a MI SSK and it was very slim
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww27/DMViergever/IMG_3627_zpsae42b220.jpg
The Parallax Tactical
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww27/DMViergever/IMG_3339_zps5a399a29.jpg
And now I am running the PWS DI handguard. It is part of their jump into the non piston world. I haven't done a grip picture yet but it is just a bit thicker than the other two, very comfortable though.
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww27/DMViergever/received_m_mid_1393900422603_559412aec1bbfedf55_0_zpsxw8wbyc5.jpeg
Sexual_Meatball
03-10-14, 18:44
I just had a MI SSK and it was very slim
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww27/DMViergever/IMG_3627_zpsae42b220.jpg
The Parallax Tactical
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww27/DMViergever/IMG_3339_zps5a399a29.jpg
And now I am running the PWS DI handguard. It is part of their jump into the non piston world. I haven't done a grip picture yet but it is just a bit thicker than the other two, very comfortable though.
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww27/DMViergever/received_m_mid_1393900422603_559412aec1bbfedf55_0_zpsxw8wbyc5.jpeg
Wow never knew they had rails/handguards that slim. Wouldn't it be too hot to handle without always wearing gloves?
DMViergever
03-10-14, 21:10
I have not had issues just running drills and that sort of thing, a few mag dumps but I also haven't just dropped rounds just because, kinda expensive these days.
I think there is probably a balance between thickness and working as a heat sink and thin and really well ventilated. The Midwest is really open and ventilated while the Parallax is pretty thick.
Thanks for posting those recent pictures, of the MI Gen 2, shows the ability to wrap around, and the ventilation differences.
DMViergever
03-11-14, 06:29
No problem. I have write ups on tbe Parallax and SSK on here and the website. PWS is coming this weekend so I will get some gripping photos Friday.
ETA: I don't have real big hands, I wear a medium glove and can just barely palm a basketball.
Budget build? ALG might be tough to beat. Nice roundish profile you're looking for.
No budget restrictions, the "slimness" of the NSR is very nice with a continuous top rail.
Lots of good suggestions above as well. I agree with HMAC above, don't overthink it.
I don't have big mitts either, FWIW.
I have the 15 inch version of this rail and it fits like a glove!
http://www.samson-mfg.com/ar-15_html/product/Evo-10.html
Sexual_Meatball
03-12-14, 04:05
man with all the love about the MI Gen 2 SS, I might just have to pick one up for my next build..
I've got an SLR solo series rail that's very slim, and I very much like it
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x160/308sako/SBR115build.jpg
This is my first 11.5 upper, and it showed me the way to light weight portable maneuverable happiness.
Lower is a mega with MagPul CTR, MIAD in FDE with Giessele SD-E FWIW.
Appreciate the suggestions, will post a picture when it's complete.
Apex Machine hand guard in this photo, I've got one on a BCM 14.5". Good feel once I finally got it on properly, a little heavy compared to the NSR. And I'll have a KMR 13 installed with 16" barrel in a week which I think I'll like even better.
DIRTMAN556
03-13-14, 16:33
Question for you slim rounded handguard FF folk. Since the handguard tubes are slimmer and closer to the barrel. Do they get hotter faster? Or is it about the same as say a MOE or a DD quad rail?
SpicyMcHaggis
03-13-14, 20:52
I love the DiamondHead VRS-T. Putting one on my rifle soon.
ReverendOD
03-14-14, 19:34
I like my Troy Alpha 13" http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/15/edu4ubet.jpg
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
Apex or Odin Works. Too many of the super slim handguards are too thin IMHO and heat up way too quickly in high round count shoots.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x160/308sako/006_zps8128e0d8.jpg
Love this handguard, although it is a tight fit on the Seekins adjustable .750 seat gas block. There is only about .017" clearance under the MI Gen 2 SSK/fde.
I had sent an email to MI, they never replied on whether it would fit that block...
All 3 FDE's shown LOL BCM, MagPul and MI's
Barrel is an AR Performance that I will be able to direct thread my AAC Cyclone on should I so choose.
Without a doubt my BCM KMR - best handguard I have ever owned across 6 rifles. Love this thing!
Anyone know if a KX5 would fit inside the MI SSK?
Wow never knew they had rails/handguards that slim. Wouldn't it be too hot to handle without always wearing gloves?
I've found that a typical carbine course with my SBR and NSR rail w/covers, it gets DAMN hot up front there.
Yeh, IMHO gloves are an important part of the kit.
I still like my NSR's, but I love my BCM KMR.
Wolfpack45
05-13-14, 09:29
Another NSR vote here. I have tried the CMR, the MI Gen 2 SS, and kept coming back to the NSR.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.