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Plato
03-12-14, 15:31
Hey gang,

I'm looking into getting myself a sweet wheel gun but I'm torn between the regular 686+ 4 inch barrel and the 686 SSR.

Purpose: home defense/range use post apocalyptic fantasy carry option ;)


I don't see a lot chatter about the SSR on this site and I was hoping for some opinions/reviews since I value the general consensus of this site.

Thanks.

JeremyW
03-18-14, 07:17
A friend of mine has the S&W 686 SSR and carries it in the Detective Bureau. I have handled it and shot it...Very nice gun...I also think it looks better to me. Just my two cents

Artifact
03-18-14, 17:47
I don't have the SSR but I do have the 4" 686 plus and love it. Extremely accurate revolver with good balance. Not sure I like the looks of the SSR though.



Hey gang,

I'm looking into getting myself a sweet wheel gun but I'm torn between the regular 686+ 4 inch barrel and the 686 SSR.

Purpose: home defense/range use post apocalyptic fantasy carry option ;)


I don't see a lot chatter about the SSR on this site and I was hoping for some opinions/reviews since I value the general consensus of this site.

Thanks.

jh9
03-19-14, 20:06
Hey gang,

I'm looking into getting myself a sweet wheel gun but I'm torn between the regular 686+ 4 inch barrel and the 686 SSR.


The 686SSR is a 6-shot revolver, which means you get to use Safariland comp 2/3 speedloaders. The 686+ is restricted to HKS, and is not a viable option for IDPA or USPSA if you're into the whole competition thing.

Pretty sure the 686SSR is supplied with a Wolff mainspring, so the action will be lighter. The grips are also different, though obviously they are the easiest thing to swap.

Otherwise, the difference is cosmetic. The 686+ looks stock. The 686SSR has the slab-sided barrel. I don't remember offhand if the 686SSR has the spring-loaded classic/DX sight setup used with the 627PRO etc. If so, the front sight is easy to swap out. Just pull back and up. If not, then you have to drift out a pin, install the new sight and drill the sight before installing the crosspin. Big deal if you want to swap out sights.

edit: did a GIS. The 686SSR uses the classic/DX sights, so you can easily change the front sight if you like.

Plato
03-19-14, 21:19
My buddies are telling me to get both. LoL

I like the 686+ for home defense and some range use but maybe I will grab the SSR for competition use.

I'm hoping to find a SSR in the flesh to see if the trigger and overall feel is really that different and if it's worth the premium and losing that extra round capacity, not to mention cheaper.


I would love for more opinions if anybody has 'em.

teutonicpolymer
03-20-14, 13:08
for serious use I would get a pre lock 686

I don't like the internal lock guns

S391
07-16-14, 17:34
I have one of each... The 686SSR is a very nice pistol and it feels more like a K-frame than a full sized L-frame revolver. The trigger is better than my 686 but it's not as nice as my 625 that I had worked over.... I love my 686SSR... The 686 is very nice but the SSR just feels more refined and balanced.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/S682/imagejpg1.jpg

lifewithoutparole
07-27-14, 17:52
I have a stainless 7 shot 686 with a 4" barrel. It is my home defense pistol and is very accurate. When I took my CCW class years ago we had to bring our own guns to the range for that portion of the training. No one would go first so I stood up and approached the bench with my 686, cylinder open and empty. The instructor smiled and asked to handle it. He showed it to the class and stated that it was the ultimate home defense pistol in his opinion. I have owned it for over 20 years and I love this gun.

Alpha Sierra
07-28-14, 18:02
I would skip both 686's and go straight to a 625. The Jerry Miculek special would be very very nice and is on my short list of guns to buy next.

Plato
07-28-14, 18:05
I would skip both 686's and go straight to a 625. The Jerry Miculek special would be very very nice and is on my short list of guns to buy next.

Have it.

Apples and oranges.

SLM
07-28-14, 18:25
I own both a 686 and the SSR. The SSR feels more like a K-frame M15 Combat Masterpiece rather than an L-frame. The trigger and hammer on mine are forged and case hardened. (I don't know if that's the case on the newer production items.)

The DA pull is extremely smooth and registers at 8.75lbs, while the SA breaks very clean at about 3.5lbs w/ virtually no over travel thanks to the trigger stop projecting out the back of the trigger. The accuracy is excellent, as one would expect from an L-frame. Quick DA shots at tgts in defensive distances are no problem and precise SA shots at extended ranges out to 75-100m at 1gal milk jugs are easily accomplished.
The sights have a red ramp front and a solid black rear adjustable. As mentioned in another post, the front is easily swapped out. A good Patridge type front w/ a gold bead would be a good addition if so inclined, or a FO, both of which are available from S&W and others.

The over-all QC and workmanship, fit & finish is exceptional. The SSR has one of the most attractive bead blast finishes I've seen in quite a while. I've had mine since 2009 and have had zero problems. I can comfortably recommend the SSR.

Denali
08-09-14, 20:51
I have one of each... The 686SSR is a very nice pistol and it feels more like a K-frame than a full sized L-frame revolver. The trigger is better than my 686 but it's not as nice as my 625 that I had worked over.... I love my 686SSR... The 686 is very nice but the SSR just feels more refined and balanced.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/S682/imagejpg1.jpg

I have owned more then a few S&W revolvers, the 686 is probably the best production .357 made by anyone, however one thing I despise about it, which is purely ascetic on my part, is that the 686 is just so linear, its lines just suck. It has none of the rich, deeply appealing allure of the 19/66/65 K-frames due in large part to its full length lug, which I have always felt was a soul killing feature of the design, a mistake by S&W engineers, it just looks so sterile and uninspiring compared with the curvaceous, elegant beauty of the K-frames....

Alpha Sierra
08-10-14, 13:35
for serious use I would get a pre lock 686

I don't like the internal lock guns

This is a crock. The storage lock is dead easy to remove or disable. Once that is done, modern S&W revolvers are every bit as reliable as the pre-lock ones.

BTW, the MIM fire control parts in the new revolvers give them a MUCH sweeter trigger pull and break right out of the box.

I've had plenty of both kinds.

SLM
08-10-14, 15:03
I agree 100%.
I have three S&Ws w/ locks and/or MIM parts, (a 686SSR w/ forged hammer & trigger and a lock, 386NG w/ MIM and lock and a 1997 686 Mtn Gun w/ MIM and no lock) and all three of them have some of the best machining, fit & finish and overall quality control I've seen come from S&W.
Much better than the S&W revolvers I own that date from 1976-1986.

wwdkd
08-15-14, 12:02
I'd go with a pre-lock 686 as well. I know people remove the lock and have great success, however S&W won't cover anything under warranty if you do this. also I like keeping it simple and not dealing with all that

Serlo II
08-19-14, 06:15
I've got a 686 SSR. It's a really great revolver.
I like the interchangable front sight. I've got fibre optic on there right now.
The trigger is quite nice and it's very accurate.
I've got the lock and I just ignore it. Never been a problem and I've fired quite a few rounds through it.
Great general use handgun.

Alpha Sierra
08-19-14, 07:26
I know people remove the lock and have great success, however S&W won't cover anything under warranty if you do this.
If you can remove the lock arm (the "flag" that locks the hammer) you can replace it again if you need to send the pistol back to S&W for warranty work.

If you can change a freaking tire on a car, you can do all this.

AllAmerican
10-26-14, 08:17
I carried a S&W 686 for about 10 years as a Game Warden in Colorado in the '80s. Fired literally thousands of rounds through it. It was the only weapon I could shoot a perfect score with. Never a hiccup. I only saw one malfunction on the range caused by another warden that did not maintain his weapon and a piece of burnt powder got under the ejector and tied the weapon up. Later the State issued us S&W Automatics with the decocker in .40. (4027) Recently I have been looking for another 686, but with the current prices I could not swing it, so I ran into an older 1976 bicentennial Ruger Security Six. I have been using that out here on the farm. If I could find an older 686 W/O the lock in my price range I would scoop it up in a heartbeat! I think it is the finest Revolver made.
Just my opinion.

halo2304
11-15-14, 03:49
I personally like the way the full under lug the looks. It gives it a Python-esque look, IMO.

My ideal 686 would be a 6-shot with a 3" barrel. They currently only make the 7-shot. The only reason I want the 6 is because of my speedloader collection and the fact that my preferred loader, the Jet Loader, only comes in the 6rd variant. Does anyone know if someone makes a 7rd loader similar to the Jet Loader?

ralph
11-15-14, 09:29
OP, you do know that Grant has some S&W wheelguns on sale at COST...I just bought a Mod.69 for $542.... Check out his post in the EE.. There might be something there for you.. The 69 feels like a sweet gun, I can't wait to get it out to the range.. Guess I'll have to dig out the dies.......

derfarhar333
07-15-15, 10:04
686+. 7 is more than 6 if my math is correct....

Plato
11-04-15, 13:22
I did end up getting that SSR. Love it!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/04/4a7e7f6a08faa41450fcf2c2c2082715.jpg

Pappabear
11-04-15, 18:26
I bought the 686 plus. But I love that grip. Damn it's nice. I had my trigger done over and it's honey now. I bought the R8 too. Lotta nice revolvers out there.

SLM
11-07-15, 20:55
I did end up getting that SSR. Love it!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/04/4a7e7f6a08faa41450fcf2c2c2082715.jpg

Outstanding. I didn't like the grips and switched them out for Pachmayr Compacts. The SSR is an excellent revolver. You'll enjoy yours.

SE Flyer
12-09-15, 18:29
Unless you just love the aesthetics of the SSR, go with the standard 686 and save your money. Both are going to need action work out of the box.

Plato
12-09-15, 22:15
Unless you just love the aesthetics of the SSR, go with the standard 686 and save your money. Both are going to need action work out of the box.

LoL

Thanks for that timely response.


Anyway I got the SSR because I love the look (flat slab barrel, bead blasted and that amazing wood grip) and the interchangeable front sight.

RetroRevolver77
12-10-15, 09:32
To me if you aren't going to a seven shot on an L frame with moonclips it's really just pointless and probably should just stick with a K frame 19 or 66 running 158 grainers, no 110's or 125's without risk to the forcing cone. I owned two 586 L Comp Pre-locks and at least four of the pre-lock 686+ models, all set up for moonclips and they reload fast as hell.