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SteyrAUG
03-19-14, 21:14
http://defconwarningsystem.com/

This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 8 P.M. Sunday, March 2nd, 2014. Condition Green. DEFCON 5. Condition Green. DEFCON 5. Condition Green. DEFCON 5.

There are currently no imminent nuclear threats against the United States at this time.

Russia invades Ukraine in an attempt to hold onto the Crimea region and its warm water port there. The United States, meanwhile, shows absolutely no intent to involve itself militarily. While NATO discusses the matter, there is very little chance that NATO or the EU intend to go beyond some kind of sanctions, if that. This conflict appears to remain localised with no potential to escalate. Russia, meanwhile, looks to expand port access to additional countries, including three near the United States, and has docked a spy ship at Cuba.

In a show of strength, Iran has sent warships close to U.S. maritime borders for a three month mission. Iran has also claimed to have successfully test-fired a long range ballistic missile, and has also claimed a new generation of centrifuges 15 times more powerful than those currently being used. Iran has also resumed work at a suspected nuclear base. U.N. inspectors are not permitted to inspect this site under the recent agreement with Iran. The United States is sending signals that it is now open to the idea of Iran having a "small, discreet, limited" nuclear programme.

China has said it is to work toward the denuclearization of North Korea, promising unspecified steps to ensure this policy. The United States, meanwhile, has vowed that it would defend Japan against Chinese attack, including attacks over disputed islands. The United States has successfully lab tested its next generation nuclear weapon, which is designed to replace it's aging tactical nuclear arsenal.

A small amount of radiation has been detected at a New Mexico site. While the government has sent investigators there to determine the actual amount, information has not been quickly forthcoming. However, samples that we know about indicate such a small amount of radiation has escaped the facility that it represents no health hazard whatsoever. We will continue to monitor and report as necessary.

The DEFCON Warning System is a private enterprise which monitors world events and assesses nuclear threats against the United States by national entities. It is not affiliated with any government agency and does not represent the alert status of any military branch. The public should make their own evaluations and not rely on the DEFCON Warning System for any strategic planning. At all times, citizens are urged to learn what steps to take in the event of a nuclear attack.

The_War_Wagon
03-19-14, 21:22
But - but - but - but - but - but - over 4 million people (a whopping 0.0114285714285714 % of the country) have signed up for the greatest panacea ever! ObamaKare!!!

All is WELL, no? :no:

SteyrAUG
03-19-14, 21:28
It baffles me what isn't on NBC nightly news.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/russia-spy-ship-docks-havana-cuba

Arrival of Viktor Leonov SSV-175 warship follows announcement by Russia that it plans to increase military presence worldwide.

black22rifle
03-19-14, 21:41
The world isn't just ours.

thopkins22
03-19-14, 21:59
It baffles me what isn't on NBC nightly news.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/russia-spy-ship-docks-havana-cuba

Arrival of Viktor Leonov SSV-175 warship follows announcement by Russia that it plans to increase military presence worldwide.

This isn't frightening at all...and Russia can't really project jack other than with aging and outdated submarine fleet. They have something like a GRAND TOTAL of 19 warships other than their little corvettes that they crank out on the cheap. Half of their submarine fleet(which in total is still smaller than ours) is still diesel. They have ONE aircraft carrier. One.

The US Navy has something along the lines of 12 aircraft carriers, 22 cruisers, 62 destroyers, and 70 submarines(14 of which are ready to end the world at the turn of a key.) Many more being built or planned.

Russia doesn't actually want to play dangerous games...it ends poorly for everyone and unless they go nuclear(destroying themselves) it ends far worse for them. They'll be decades away from catching up to us if we were to just totally stop building anything new.

Frailer
03-19-14, 22:09
But - but - but - but - but - but - over 4 million people (a whopping 0.0114285714285714 % of the country) have signed up for the greatest panacea ever! ObamaKare!!!

Your decimal point is in the wrong place. There aren't 35 billion Americans.

Not saying Obamacare is right. Just saying your arithmetic isn't.

SteyrAUG
03-19-14, 23:59
This isn't frightening at all...and Russia can't really project jack other than with aging and outdated submarine fleet. They have something like a GRAND TOTAL of 19 warships other than their little corvettes that they crank out on the cheap. Half of their submarine fleet(which in total is still smaller than ours) is still diesel. They have ONE aircraft carrier. One.

The US Navy has something along the lines of 12 aircraft carriers, 22 cruisers, 62 destroyers, and 70 submarines(14 of which are ready to end the world at the turn of a key.) Many more being built or planned.

Russia doesn't actually want to play dangerous games...it ends poorly for everyone and unless they go nuclear(destroying themselves) it ends far worse for them. They'll be decades away from catching up to us if we were to just totally stop building anything new.

I'm not saying the spyship is phase one for Red Dawn.

What I'm frustrated about is that it's not reported at all. There was a time something like this would have led the news for days. Putting obviously parked it there to see if he could catch any traffic before his incursion into Crimea. But nobody is even talking about the fact that it happened. But let Justin Bieber crash a rented car under the influence.

Mauser KAR98K
03-20-14, 00:40
This isn't frightening at all...and Russia can't really project jack other than with aging and outdated submarine fleet. They have something like a GRAND TOTAL of 19 warships other than their little corvettes that they crank out on the cheap. Half of their submarine fleet(which in total is still smaller than ours) is still diesel. They have ONE aircraft carrier. One.

The US Navy has something along the lines of 12 aircraft carriers, 22 cruisers, 62 destroyers, and 70 submarines(14 of which are ready to end the world at the turn of a key.) Many more being built or planned.

Russia doesn't actually want to play dangerous games...it ends poorly for everyone and unless they go nuclear(destroying themselves) it ends far worse for them. They'll be decades away from catching up to us if we were to just totally stop building anything new.

Funny thing is, China has leaped far over what we thought they might get to by a certain decade in regards to their technological attributes. Thank Clinton for that, of course. Russia's problem is lack of money. Give them a cause (new arms race) that could change, especially with economic espionage, and people with certain political motivations in high secured areas, but got clearance anyways (Snowden ring a bell).

Never thought I would be living under the fear of M.A.D. in my adult life. Bad enough when I was younger until age seven with the Soviet Union collapsed. What scares that shit out of me more is the head-in-the-sand generation sucking on the MSM tit, and the growing isolationism in this country. Right now, there are very few countries I would trust to take the mantel of leading World Super Power, and they are either broke, or weakened by socialistic programs. Russia and China are it, and that frightens me in regards to keeping the free world "free."

Just this week, Russia shut-down more anti-putin websites, and have been churning out the propaganda to the Soviet...I mean Russian masses, and they are eating it up. What is different from us versus them is that they aren't afraid to use force to achieve their means. Between Obama and the growing isolationist movement is the U.S., brought on mostly by libertarians, we are ceding power to our enemies willfully.

Mauser KAR98K
03-20-14, 00:41
Double-tap.

Belmont31R
03-20-14, 01:00
I'm not saying the spyship is phase one for Red Dawn.

What I'm frustrated about is that it's not reported at all. There was a time something like this would have led the news for days. Putting obviously parked it there to see if he could catch any traffic before his incursion into Crimea. But nobody is even talking about the fact that it happened. But let Justin Bieber crash a rented car under the influence.

What is that ship going to do sitting in port that can't be done from land, and what exactly are they going to intercept that would be of benefit to their operations in Crimea?

Magic_Salad0892
03-20-14, 01:31
growing isolationist movement is the U.S., brought on mostly by libertarians.

Not to start a debate about it, but many libertarians are not isolationist. They're just pickier about what to do with America's military power.

Dead Man
03-20-14, 01:53
I'm not saying the spyship is phase one for Red Dawn.

What I'm frustrated about is that it's not reported at all. There was a time something like this would have led the news for days. Putting obviously parked it there to see if he could catch any traffic before his incursion into Crimea. But nobody is even talking about the fact that it happened. But let Justin Bieber crash a rented car under the influence.

You can be sure the Pentagon is paying plenty of attention. What is to gain from stirring the nation up with anti-Russian sentiment? I'd rather we not start that again, myself.

ABNAK
03-20-14, 02:06
You can be sure the Pentagon is paying plenty of attention. What is to gain from stirring the nation up with anti-Russian sentiment? I'd rather we not start that again, myself.

Why, if the shoe fits? i.e. if the Russians are indeed showing their ass why should we shrink from the thought of anti-Russian sentiment? Are they someone special or omnipotent that we dare not get pissed at them?

Look, the Crimea thing is not as clear-cut a case of blatant Russian aggression. Given the history of the place and it's ethnic makeup one could make the argument that indeed they "want" to be part of Mother Russia. Meh......so be it.

HOWEVER.........

If the Russians have designs on other sovereign countries in a nostalgic attempt to re-create the Soviet Union it must be stopped (or at least legitimately challenged) or the Bear will force a return to the Cold War. We will have no choice at that point, so a little "Russia hate" right now isn't unhealthy----it may steel us for what lies ahead.

SteyrAUG
03-20-14, 02:41
Between Obama and the growing isolationist movement is the U.S., brought on mostly by libertarians, we are ceding power to our enemies willfully.

Hold it there cowboy. Most regular Libertarians don't want total isolationism, we just want to tend to the needs of the US before we tend to the needs of spending aid money in Afghanistan. Sure there are some radicals, but there are radicals in the GOP who think women should be jailed for having abortions. And I suggest those radicals are giving us Democratic victories more than Libertarian isolationist radicals.

SteyrAUG
03-20-14, 02:42
What is that ship going to do sitting in port that can't be done from land, and what exactly are they going to intercept that would be of benefit to their operations in Crimea?



You missed it, it was in place end of February before the Crimea stuff even began. I'm sure you can figure out why it was there under those circumstances.

SteyrAUG
03-20-14, 02:48
You can be sure the Pentagon is paying plenty of attention. What is to gain from stirring the nation up with anti-Russian sentiment? I'd rather we not start that again, myself.

What is to be gained by giving them half of a slightly accurate picture of world events? Maybe if people knew what was actually going on they might contact their representatives and say "We don't want this" just like the firearm community does when Congress considers some anti gun bullshit.

And it's not a case of creating anti Russian sentiment, it's a case of knowing what is brewing and the fact that Russia supports Syria so there is nothing to be gained by stating their will be "significant consequences" if Syria uses chemical weapons and then discovering they did just that and not being able to do a damn thing about it.

If you don't think Putin was watching what the US response would be over Syrian use of chemical weapons then you weren't paying attention. He saw the US did nothing and that meant he could do almost anything he wanted.

The key difference is Putin knew all of this, Obama should have known all of this and the average American didn't have a clue about any of it. Most of them would be mystified to try and even understand how one situation is directly related to the other.

ABNAK
03-20-14, 03:11
What is to be gained by giving them half of a slightly accurate picture of world events? Maybe if people knew what was actually going on they might contact their representatives and say "We don't want this" just like the firearm community does when Congress considers some anti gun bullshit.

And it's not a case of creating anti Russian sentiment, it's a case of knowing what is brewing and the fact that Russia supports Syria so there is nothing to be gained by stating their will be "significant consequences" if Syria uses chemical weapons and then discovering they did just that and not being able to do a damn thing about it.

If you don't think Putin was watching what the US response would be over Syrian use of chemical weapons then you weren't paying attention. He saw the US did nothing and that meant he could do almost anything he wanted.

The key difference is Putin knew all of this, Obama should have known all of this and the average American didn't have a clue about any of it. Most of them would be mystified to try and even understand how one situation is directly related to the other.

And those would be the same idiots who put him into office.....TWICE!

polymorpheous
03-20-14, 03:55
http://www.businessinsider.com/robert-evans-moscow-concerned-over-russians-in-estonia-2014-3#ixzz2wTiyh5l0

Moscow is eyeballing Estonia now.

ABNAK
03-20-14, 06:03
http://www.businessinsider.com/robert-evans-moscow-concerned-over-russians-in-estonia-2014-3#ixzz2wTiyh5l0

Moscow is eyeballing Estonia now.

Funny how it's under the same guise as Crimea: protecting ethnic Russians (which are in the minority in Estonia, unlike Crimea).

jesuvuah
03-20-14, 06:14
The problem I see here, is that it is becoming increasingly difficult to find the truth. There is so much crap put out by the media on all sides. So much misinformation. I don't trust anything our media puts out, and I don't trust anything that foreign media puts out.

One thing that came up in my memory just recently was back when Obama told putting that he would have more flexibility after the election. Who knows, both sides could be using this "conflict" for their own interest.

But at this point, I really do not care what happens with Crimea. It seems the people want to be with Russia and if that is what they want then let them have it.

The_War_Wagon
03-20-14, 06:47
Your decimal point is in the wrong place. There aren't 35 billion Americans.

Not saying Obamacare is right. Just saying your arithmetic isn't.

4 million, out of 350 million. I'm STILL coming up with 0.1142857142857143% :confused:

polymorpheous
03-20-14, 07:06
But - but - but - but - but - but - over 4 million people (a whopping 0.0114285714285714 % of the country) have signed up for the greatest panacea ever! ObamaKare!!!

All is WELL, no? :no:

0.011 is a far cry from 0.11
Just sayin'

just a scout
03-20-14, 07:07
Weird. I did the math, got the same number.


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Lnxgeek
03-20-14, 07:49
4 million is x
350 million is 100 %

x = (4 million * 100%)/350 million

x = 1.14 %

Belloc
03-20-14, 09:33
A small amount of radiation has been detected at a New Mexico site. While the government has sent investigators there to determine the actual amount, information has not been quickly forthcoming. However, samples that we know about indicate such a small amount of radiation has escaped the facility that it represents no health hazard whatsoever. We will continue to monitor and report as necessary.


Hmmm. Let me first secure my tinfoil fedora.

"A mystery 'storm cloud' caught on weather radar after erupting off a U.S. military missile testing ground in New Mexico has left weather experts baffled."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584235/Weather-experts-baffled-mystery-plume-New-Mexico-radar-near-1945-nuclear-bomb-test-site.html

ralph
03-20-14, 10:19
Funny how it's under the same guise as Crimea: protecting ethnic Russians (which are in the minority in Estonia, unlike Crimea).

Hmmm, Didn't Hitler say the same thing about the Sudetenland? Right before he invaded? I guess all that's left for Putin to do is to fabricate an excuse.....

TAZ
03-20-14, 11:35
Think I saw a news report that he Russian Parliament building is on fire ..... Just kidding, but the similarities are significant for anyone who has so much as slept through a history class.

Not sure what the US can or even should do until Putin makes a move against a NATO ally. We don't have the $$ to go about dicking around being the worlds bully patrol. The US should make it clear to Putin in easy to understand words that if he steps across the line and infringes on US national interest or any NATO ally we will crush his nuts and whole country into rubble like we did Germany. And we won't waste any US tax $$ rebuilding it. Sadly we don't have the balls and even if the nut less wonders in DC did say mean things Putin would call the bluff.

cinco
03-20-14, 11:41
The problem I see here, is that it is becoming increasingly difficult to find the truth. There is so much crap put out by the media on all sides. So much misinformation. I don't trust anything our media puts out, and I don't trust anything that foreign media puts out.

One thing that came up in my memory just recently was back when Obama told putting that he would have more flexibility after the election. Who knows, both sides could be using this "conflict" for their own interest.

But at this point, I really do not care what happens with Crimea. It seems the people want to be with Russia and if that is what they want then let them have it.

Bingo! Winner, winner chicken dinner.

Might I suggest "they" (Putin/Obama, East/West, etc) are one in the same?



Background on the collusion between "they":

Anatoliy Golitsyn CBE is a Soviet KGB defector and author of two books about the long-term deception strategy of the KGB leadership. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoliy_Golitsyn

Cloward-Piven Strategy - "Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis" http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

montanadave
03-20-14, 11:52
Sometimes it's best to step back and take the long view.

Compare the soviet sphere of influence 25 years ago and what Russia has today. In that context, it's pretty clear who the winners and losers are.

Putin basically traded the Russian naval base and Crimea for the remainder of Ukraine. Good PR for the home crowd, good strategically for the Russian navy, not exactly earth-shattering in the global balance of power.

chuckman
03-20-14, 11:59
Anyone who is surprised drank too much of the glastnost-perestroika-Gorbachev kool aid--er, vodka. The end of the cold war in its former sense changed nothing about how the Russians see us; us, on the other hand, thought we were BFFs holding hands into a new world order. This OUR fault, not theirs.

SteyrAUG
03-20-14, 13:33
Think I saw a news report that he Russian Parliament building is on fire ..... Just kidding, but the similarities are significant for anyone who has so much as slept through a history class.


Classic.

J8127
03-21-14, 00:23
I still, for the life of me, can not figure out why anybody gives a flying **** about Ukraine or has any desire to drum up more hostilities about a spec of dirt that couldn't possibly matter less to us.

95% of the almost entirely Russian speaking Crimean population voted to join Russia. The same people who asked Russia to protect them from the Ukrainian government they refused to recognize. Sounds pretty ****ing American to me.

SteyrAUG
03-21-14, 00:39
I still, for the life of me, can not figure out why anybody gives a flying **** about Ukraine or has any desire to drum up more hostilities about a spec of dirt that couldn't possibly matter less to us.

95% of the almost entirely Russian speaking Crimean population voted to join Russia. The same people who asked Russia to protect them from the Ukrainian government they refused to recognize. Sounds pretty ****ing American to me.

Ukraine is a vital natural resource for the United States.

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/24600000/WTA-wta-24620298-1600-1200.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/L4o35M4NikkZsvgTynMbm4fE42xA1D0Iioq-Y8Zgf8kfg*qkSgC0flnYrCPvTzU83zUZ1UIa5PmFXMj4rKFG48CAOhbrgoe8/anna_kournikova_48.jpg

http://img.allw.mn/content/celebs/2011/07/Anna-Kournikova-2643.jpg

chuckman
03-21-14, 14:23
95% of the almost entirely Russian speaking Crimean population voted to join Russia. The same people who asked Russia to protect them from the Ukrainian government they refused to recognize. Sounds pretty ****ing American to me.

We do not know if they did or if they did not. That is the ol' Russian way...move into a country to protect its ethnic family, install a pro-Russian government, and do it all with that country's blessing. It's how many of the Soviet satellites became Soviet satellites. I think a lot of people who read history see similarities between what's going on now and what went on with the Eastern European boarder countries in the early-to-mid 20th century.

thopkins22
03-21-14, 15:35
Anna is otherworldly.

Many supermodel types aren't that amazing looking in person, they simply have bodies and features that lend themselves to photography/after effects/certain poses. Often a "normal" beautiful woman is just as attractive as the model.

Anna is not one of those...if you've ever met or been close to her you'll know what I mean. She's outrageously beautiful simply being herself. Staying in the tennis/geography theme, Maria Kirilenko and Maria Sharapova have the same qualities but are Russian. Maria Sharapova happens to be a giant though, which kind of makes her that much more breath taking. You shake her hand and think "God you're beautiful, and not only do I not stand a chance with you...but you might accidentally break me if I somehow did."

Russian women are either complete trolls, or the most beautiful creatures on the planet...they defy the bell curve. Icelandic women are the same way.

SteyrAUG
03-21-14, 16:57
Anna is otherworldly.

Many supermodel types aren't that amazing looking in person, they simply have bodies and features that lend themselves to photography/after effects/certain poses. Often a "normal" beautiful woman is just as attractive as the model.

Anna is not one of those...if you've ever met or been close to her you'll know what I mean. She's outrageously beautiful simply being herself. Staying in the tennis/geography theme, Maria Kirilenko and Maria Sharapova have the same qualities but are Russian. Maria Sharapova happens to be a giant though, which kind of makes her that much more breath taking. You shake her hand and think "God you're beautiful, and not only do I not stand a chance with you...but you might accidentally break me if I somehow did."

Russian women are either complete trolls, or the most beautiful creatures on the planet...they defy the bell curve. Icelandic women are the same way.

Most super models actually bore the crap out of me. Last really interesting one was Cindy Crawford. Anna on the other hand is one of the hottest women of...ever...

FromMyColdDeadHand
03-22-14, 00:47
Think I saw a news report that he Russian Parliament building is on fire ..... Just kidding, but the similarities are significant for anyone who has so much as slept through a history class.

Not sure what the US can or even should do until Putin makes a move against a NATO ally. We don't have the $$ to go about dicking around being the worlds bully patrol. The US should make it clear to Putin in easy to understand words that if he steps across the line and infringes on US national interest or any NATO ally we will crush his nuts and whole country into rubble like we did Germany. And we won't waste any US tax $$ rebuilding it. Sadly we don't have the balls and even if the nut less wonders in DC did say mean things Putin would call the bluff.

With the Crimean thing, I half way expected Poland to attack into Russia (Belarus) with the rationale that they have seen this story a few times before and they aren't going to play this game by the same rules anymore...

The whole Ukrainian thing is screwed up because they haven't had any kind of rational govt from either side since the fall of the USSR. In 1991 it had the same size economy as Poland, now Poland's economy is three times bigger. Just totally inept management of the country. I'm not saying that Putins right by any means, it just sounds like we are stuck with the short-bus allies on our side again.

Protect ethnic Russians? Crap, Denver will be in trouble. Throw a bottle of Vodka in Denver and a Russian emigre will catch it.

To BlackRifle22's comment that
The world isn't just ours, I understand the comment that we can't dictate what goes on everywhere in the world, but if we don't press our values whose values will get pushed? I'm not saying that we should tell people how to run their countries, but the world would be a far nastier, dangerous and less free place under systems based on Russian or Chinese values.

I look at Putin's grab, and I think it shows how weak he is. Why did he have to send in unidentified troops?? Why not just roll in the Russian military?

If this is the latest New World Order there are a few things we should be doing- time to take out the trash in our hemisphere. Cuba, Venezuela, put that Morales punk on a really short leash. Use generic labelled mercs just like Putin did.
We also need to rattle China's cage on this with Taiwan, Xinjiang and Tibet- so we are now having votes about confederation? Hmmm, that sounds interesting. Russia and China please discuss...

It would be interesting if Obama demonized Putin as much as he demonized Republicans.

Iraqgunz
03-22-14, 03:23
I saw her several years ago in Amsterdam area playing tennis. She is so hot it's unreal. I would eat her dirty socks.


Anna is otherworldly.

Many supermodel types aren't that amazing looking in person, they simply have bodies and features that lend themselves to photography/after effects/certain poses. Often a "normal" beautiful woman is just as attractive as the model.

Anna is not one of those...if you've ever met or been close to her you'll know what I mean. She's outrageously beautiful simply being herself. Staying in the tennis/geography theme, Maria Kirilenko and Maria Sharapova have the same qualities but are Russian. Maria Sharapova happens to be a giant though, which kind of makes her that much more breath taking. You shake her hand and think "God you're beautiful, and not only do I not stand a chance with you...but you might accidentally break me if I somehow did."

Russian women are either complete trolls, or the most beautiful creatures on the planet...they defy the bell curve. Icelandic women are the same way.

Outlander Systems
03-22-14, 07:35
Ukraine is a vital natural resource for the United States.

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/24600000/WTA-wta-24620298-1600-1200.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/L4o35M4NikkZsvgTynMbm4fE42xA1D0Iioq-Y8Zgf8kfg*qkSgC0flnYrCPvTzU83zUZ1UIa5PmFXMj4rKFG48CAOhbrgoe8/anna_kournikova_48.jpg

http://img.allw.mn/content/celebs/2011/07/Anna-Kournikova-2643.jpg

In the immortalized words of JSantoro:


...given the opportunity, I would hit that so hard that whomever pulled me out would be crowned King of England.

sandman99and9
03-22-14, 09:51
I saw her several years ago in Amsterdam area playing tennis. She is so hot it's unreal. I would eat her dirty socks.

^^ Bwahahahaha, I have to add that I would crawl over broken glass to hear her fart through a cell phone !!


S.M.

Abraham
03-22-14, 15:57
Giant women aren't any different than other women.

How could I possibly know?

I'm 5'5", 160 lbs and I dated a woman who's 6'6" and though I never quizzed her, I'd guess an easy 200 lbs...though in appearance she was trim.

When out in public people would stare at us.

Linda was a Psycho Therapist in private practice. Earlier in her career, she'd been a professional concert pianist and had toured Europe, Japan, and America, but never lived up to own expectations. She was never going to be another Van Cliburn, though immensely talented. So, she went back to school and became a therapist. And I digress....

Anyway, very tall and athletic women are women and that's my point.

montanadave
03-22-14, 16:03
^ Pics or it didn't happen. :laugh:

HKGuns
03-22-14, 16:30
Sorry, but why would this interest me? It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Tom Cruises newest gurlfriend!

Eurodriver
03-24-14, 12:05
Ukraine is a vital natural resource for the United States.

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/24600000/WTA-wta-24620298-1600-1200.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/L4o35M4NikkZsvgTynMbm4fE42xA1D0Iioq-Y8Zgf8kfg*qkSgC0flnYrCPvTzU83zUZ1UIa5PmFXMj4rKFG48CAOhbrgoe8/anna_kournikova_48.jpg

http://img.allw.mn/content/celebs/2011/07/Anna-Kournikova-2643.jpg

You always pull through!!!

skydivr
03-24-14, 13:08
I'm right now reading the latest Tom Clancy novel "Command Authority" - he hit today's current events on the head, except Russia went after Estonia before creating unrest/excuse for Crimea....Like the dude climbed into a time machine...

GlockWRX
03-24-14, 13:51
I'm right now reading the latest Tom Clancy novel "Command Authority" - he hit today's current events on the head, except Russia went after Estonia before creating unrest/excuse for Crimea....Like the dude climbed into a time machine...

The dude was pretty astute. A narrative for of the Ghost Recon video games started with a Russian invasion of Georgia, about decade before it actually happened.

I wonder if Putin has a Kindle? Hopefully he won't get to Red Storm Rising on his reading list....

SteveS
03-26-14, 22:35
President Obama is doing exactly doing what he is told to do. The USA has to be brought down to a third world level to fit into the new world order. A failing economy makes lots of new soldiers to go do the dirty deeds of the new world order. We are running on empty with the $$$ and the loss of resources from Viet Nam, Bush 1, Clintons follies and Bush2 as well as Obamas continuation of the plan.

BrigandTwoFour
03-26-14, 23:50
This isn't frightening at all...and Russia can't really project jack other than with aging and outdated submarine fleet. They have something like a GRAND TOTAL of 19 warships other than their little corvettes that they crank out on the cheap. Half of their submarine fleet(which in total is still smaller than ours) is still diesel. They have ONE aircraft carrier. One.

The US Navy has something along the lines of 12 aircraft carriers, 22 cruisers, 62 destroyers, and 70 submarines(14 of which are ready to end the world at the turn of a key.) Many more being built or planned.

Russia doesn't actually want to play dangerous games...it ends poorly for everyone and unless they go nuclear(destroying themselves) it ends far worse for them. They'll be decades away from catching up to us if we were to just totally stop building anything new.

I know this was on the first page, but it went unchallenged. Read the unclassified reports from the Millennium Challenge 2002 war game the DOD held. In short, a Marine Corps officer overwhelmed a vastly superior US naval force using those "little corvettes" and small boats combined with missile attacks and other tools of the trade. He essentially defeated the US naval force on day one of what was supposed to be a thirteen day exercise. The Navy had to be "respawned" and the rules of engagement changed to support US Naval doctrine for the exercise.

Well...foreign powers don't usually like to play by our doctrine (though, to be fair, we historically don't follow our own doctrine too well, either). You can bet that others are well aware of our advantages vs their disadvantages, and they have come up with attack plans accordingly. Don't underestimate our adversaries.

I'm intentionally not touching the nuclear piece. I'm too close to that world, and you will have to forgive me for not wanting to discuss it in an open forum.