CTI (Surefire Scout Lights)

[SWATcop556]

I'm starting this thread in reference to an EE ad posted by CTI selling Surefire Scout Lights.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?149697-***DO-NOT-RESPOND-TO-THIS-AD**-Used-Surefire-Scout-Weaponlights

I became concerned when I started to receive PM's from members who had paid for lights but had not received any product. I myself had also paid for lights but due to my ever increasingly busy schedule I hadn't given it much thought. I attempted to contact CTI but he did not return my PM's or emails. I was finally able to track down a phone number and have established contact.

CTI stated he was overwhelmed with the amount of messages he received regarding the ad. He also stated he was having difficulty with PayPal and retrieving funds. I paid the initial PayPal account only to have it refunded then directed to a new PayPal account.

After speaking with CTI today I was assured that he was picking up the lights by Thursday and would be shipping by the weeks end. I'm trying to be patient and understanding but that is wearing thin. I told CTI if the lights were not received and shipped by the end of this week then he needed to make plans to refund all payments to buyers.

He has sworn to me that he would keep me updated and personally guaranteed that he would ship every light. We shall see.

Anyone is free to post here with questions or concerns. I will also text the link to this thread to CTI for his participation and input.

Until this is cleared up CTI does not have any EE privileges.

This will remain professional. Period. If CTI does not follow through with his promises then I will post all information discovered, including contact info and anyone else is welcome to as well. I will also be contacting local authorities and filing charges. If he comes through then we as M4C Staff/Mods will determine where to proceed from there.

Thanks
Jordan

[Shamu415]

I paid $152.00 for 1 surefire light on March 26, 2014 via PayPal.

[underwater]

3 Surefire lights. Purchased and paid on 03/20/2014 at 22:49. Paid $417.15 through paypal with extra 3% to cover fees.

[Huskyfever03]

Thx for the follow up. I made a paypal payment for 1 scout light on 3/27

[Baldrick]

I paid for one light on 3/28/14.

[Lawnchair 04]

I paid 135$ for 1 surefire scout on march 20th.

[Serpico1985]

I paid $140 (I paid the paypal fees) for 1 light on 3/22 via paypal.

[frequent flyer]

I purchased one Surefire Scout light on 3/22. Made paypal payment for $135.00

[jwperry]

I purchased one light, on 3/20/2014 and paid $142 to cover the paypal fees.

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[Glin1216]

Purchased two lights on 3/26 and paid $278.10

[Switch]

I purchased 2 surefire lights and paid $304 using PayPal on 3/27/14.

[mkmckinley]

I sent CTI a USPS MO on 3/21 for $135 and he confirmed receipt on 3/25.

[gtmule]

I purchased one SF light. Paid $135 on 3/20 via PayPal.

[RECONMAN]

I purchased a Scout light for $135, before the increased price. Paid with PayPal on 22MARCH. Sent an email to CTI notifying him off the payment and the email address attached to paypal.

[SWATcop556]

Spoke to CTI via text message today. He stated he had fixed his PayPal issues and was trying to coordinate to pick up the lights tonight and he was going to call me first thing tomorrow with lights in hand. He also still said he would be shipping all lights by the end of the week. I will keep everyone updated as I get new information.

[anto]

PP'ed him $152 for one. 3/28 via PP.

[frequent flyer]

Ok, it is 6pm on Friday, still nothing....

Any updates?

[Switch]

Curious myself, figured he would of sent them out by now. I think he lives in the Eastern time zone so the post office is probably closed.

[SWATcop556]

He is meeting to pick up lights at 2pm 04-05-14. He stated he will be sending me photos of the lights and boxing everything to go out Monday. I've save all PMs, emails, and text messages so there is no wiggle room on his part if he tries to postpone. If he misses this deadline I'm out and I will deal with PayPal and local authorities.

[Lawnchair 04]

Thanks for the updates and all the extra work you've put into this issue.

[Switch]

Thanks for the update SWATcop and your extra effort you've put into this.

[RECONMAN]

Yes, thank you Swatcop! Your efforts are greatly appreciated!

[SWATcop556]

No worries guys. I don't believe there was any malicious intent here. He was just overwhelmed with a large order, PayPal issues, and his supplier dragging his feet.

Lights were picked up today. Shipping will be Monday.

[Switch]

Cool, thanks for the update and going out of your way to figure this out.

[Huskyfever03]

Sounds good. Thanks for the updates!

[frequent flyer]

Swatcop, thanks for all your work on this and keeping everyone updated!

[Lawnchair 04]

Any word from CTI on the scout light issue? shit just saw the updated posts.....forget i asked.

[frequent flyer]

Post Offices on East Coast closed, still no tracking number!

[underwater]

Any updates on shipping?

[frequent flyer]

Still nothing, this is getting old.

[SWATcop556]

I've texted twice. I'll be back home Thursday. If nothing by then I'm opening a PayPal dispute. He sent a pic to me with a bag full of lights but I have no idea what the hold up is.

I'll update as I get more info or what actions I take.

[Switch]

Well its good that he sent you a picture of the lights hopefully he'll have them shipped out in the next day or two. Thanks again SWATcop.

[frequent flyer]

SWATcop, thanks.
Will wait for update before I file a dispute.
Hopefully, he comes through.

[Baldrick]

I've already begun the resolution process with Paypal but am getting no response from him. He has not responded to either direct emails or emails through Paypal.

My hopes are not high at this point.

[Lawnchair 04]

I hope he comes through as well but i have my doubts. I'll be filing with paypal within the next 48 hours unless we see some substantial evidence regarding shipment.

[frequent flyer]

Still no response or tracking/shipping information from CTI -Bill.
I opened a claim with paypal.

[Switch]

This sucks, really want to give the guy a chance but this is getting old.

[JBecker 72]

This is exactly why it is a bad idea to use the paypal gift option. I hope you guys either get your money back, or get your lights.

[frequent flyer]

Agreed, I did not use the gift option.
I tried to give him a chance to make it right, but he stopped responding to emails last week.
I'm losing patience...

[Switch]

Luckily I didn't use the gift option this time I emailed him a few minutes ago telling him if I didn't hear back from him I was filing a PayPal dispute.

[Baldrick]

To those waiting to file through Paypal. Be advised that you have to start the resolution through them, including contacting the seller, in order to move the claim forward. I just escalated mine and thus it is being reviewed by PayPal, but from the looks of it, they may require 10+ days of no contact to start reviewing it.

I'm no PayPal expert but, I would definitely get the ball rolling sooner than later.

[RECONMAN]

Well, I unfortunately used the gift option....I suppose I will just have to eat the cost and go the law enforcement route if that is possible.

[Lawnchair 04]

Well, I unfortunately used the gift option....I suppose I will just have to eat the cost and go the law enforcement route if that is possible.

im in the same boat. should have known better. lesson learned.

[Switch]

If needed he gave me some information about himself that I can give you guys. I don't know if it's legitimate info or not but you guys are more than welcome to it just PM me if you want it and I can email or PM you the info.

[RECONMAN]

Looks like this guy is using several different names. The company has no website, and my google-fu turns up nothing about it or any of his names. Looks like we bought into a scam. :mad:

[Huskyfever03]

Claim opened. hopefully paypals resolution center isn't as flaky as this guy

[SOWT]

This is exactly why it is a bad idea to use the paypal gift option. I hope you guys either get your money back, or get your lights.

I just add 3% when someone says use the gift option.
Keeps everything above board.

[anto]

im in the same boat. should have known better. lesson learned.

Me too. Lesson learned. Hopefully CTI mails out / refunds.

[SWATcop556]

No contact via text since Saturday 04-05-14 at 1815 hrs.

This is the text message I sent today 04-10-14 at 1030 hrs:


You have until tonight at midnight to send me a tracking number for the lights. If I don't here from you I'll be filing a dispute with PayPal and I will also be filing a wire transfer fraud/theft report with your local authorities. I'm sorry that it's come to this but you don't leave me a choice. Deadlines have changed and I've given you chance after chance to make this right. After all of the delays and promises you can't finally tell me you are shipping lights Monday and here it is Thursday with ZERO communication. We talked about that already. It forces me to believe you have no intentions of honoring your commitment and that you willfully stole $2600+ for me and the members of M4C. I will forward ALL emails, PMs, text messages, phone numbers, email addresses, and physical addresses to PayPal as well as local LE and I will be posting ALL of this information in the feedback thread as well as linking to the other threads I've found on AR15.com and your local PA gun forum where you have done this before. It will be easy to find on a simple google search of your name or screen names. If you send me tracking info and you mail ALL of the lights TODAY it will end there. If not, you force my hand.

I have his cell number (of course the VM is full) as well as a home address. I'm also going to reach out to a couple of PA LE members we have here to see if they can help with local laws and maybe a PoC as well. When I file a case I'll post the case number and detectives name here so others can add to that charge instead of multiple individual cases. I'll keep you posted. Sorry about this guys.

[Switch]

Thanks for the heads up, I assume he's not going to respond I've sent him 2 emails since this thread has started and received no response. Also do you want me to PM you the address he gave me in case they don't match up?

Also thanks for the extra effort you've put into this to make it easier for us to file a case against him.

[Baldrick]

For those in the Paypal resolution process, I've checked my status and Paypal is giving him till April 19th to respond before they move forward. Just to give you an idea of timeline involved in that process.

[Javelin]

Wow this thing is a big bag of shit. Sucks to have bought from this guy. Hope you folks get your cash back... Good idea on the non gift option, I will remember that.

[JBecker 72]

Wow this thing is a big bag of shit. Sucks to have bought from this guy. Hope you folks get your cash back... Good idea on the non gift option, I will remember that.

All that gives you though is the ability to file a dispute. It doesn't guarantee you a refund.

[frequent flyer]

SWATcop, any further info?
I have his home address, multiple phone numbers and email addresses. Will pm you if you like?

[SWATcop556]

SWATcop, any further info?
I have his home address, multiple phone numbers and email addresses. Will pm you if you like?

PM me what you have.

[frequent flyer]

PM sent

[glock21xxx]

PM me what you have.

Swatcop556---PM sent

[jwperry]

PayPal dispute filed.

[Lawnchair 04]

Swat cop, are we at the end of the road with this guy? What other options do I have besides Paypal dispute?

[Switch]

I filed a dispute and if I don't hear nothing in a few days I'm bumping it up to a claim.

[RECONMAN]

Swat cop, are we at the end of the road with this guy? What other options do I have besides Paypal dispute?

X2. Can't file a dispute on paypal because of the way I sent funds, but would be interested in filling charges with law enforcement if that is possible.

[SWATcop556]

I'm looking at all avenues. My comms will be spotty until Thursday due to work but hopefully this guy gets his. I'll update as I have further.

I recommend ALL who sent money to file with PayPal. This does show the dangers if the "gift option."

This guy is a thief. Plain and simple. No comms for over a week now. I'm washing my hands if him. He made this bed.

[Baldrick]

SWATcop, did you file against him with his local LE? If so, can we get the info?

Can you also send me the information you have on him?

[RECONMAN]

Unfortunately, I'll be out of the country and out of touch for the most part for the next few months....if there's anything I can do, pm me and let me know.

[Eurodriver]

To those of you who have paid via gift (or even if you didn't, as long as the funds came directly from your CC)...just dispute the paypal charge with your credit card company. They will go after him ricky tick.

Briefly: Editted because I don't want to give ideas to scumbags.

Dispute the charges with your credit card company. Watch him squirm.

[RECONMAN]

Noted...we shall see what NavyFed will do!

[Lawnchair 04]

Looks like ill be calling Navyfed in the morning as well.

[underwater]

I filed a dispute with paypal last week. If they don't overturn, I will also call Navy Federal since I paid on that card. Thanks for the tip.

[Switch]

Escalated my dispute to a claim today hopefully this guy gets his. If I file a claim and get my money back should I still contact his local authorities?

[frequent flyer]

I'm all for pressing charges even if I get my money back. This guy is a POS! He has done this numerous times in the past.

[Baldrick]

I was holding off on calling the local LEO since SWATcop said, in the first post, that he was going to make a report and pass on contact info accordingly. Hate to double up the initial work on the local PD.

[SWATcop556]

Just comms are slow. Work has me in and out. Things may be slow with local LE as it's a holiday weekend.

Everyone should contact their banks as well as PayPal. I'll post more as I have it and I'm sorry for the intermittent comms.

[frequent flyer]

I got my money back today. Spoke to customer rep at paypal, made them aware of the fraud. They are looking into filing fraud charges and will not process any of the sellers accounts.
Hope everyone gets their money back.

[Switch]

Did you get your money back through the claim or did you just call them?

[Serpico1985]

Today was the 11th day since I filed my claim. I called Paypal and they expedited the return of my money and it showed up in my account while I was on the phone with them. They stated that it would have showed up on the 11th day anyway but sped it up since I called in FYI.

[frequent flyer]

I got it back through the claim, but I had to call and speak to customer service.
They credited my acct while I was on the phone with them.

[SeriousStudent]

Very glad to hear that the refunds are starting to flow. I hope everyone gets back every nickel.

[Huskyfever03]

Called paypal and they too expedited a full refund.

[JBecker 72]

That's good news.

[Switch]

I called and they told me I'd get my refund the 28th unless the seller answers their emails.

[glock21xxx]

I called and they told me I'd get my refund the 28th unless the seller answers their emails.

Has anyone made contact (personally or electronically) with CTI yet?

[Switch]

SWATcop was in contact with him for a little while but I think once all the funds came through he stopped talking to everyone.

[jwperry]

Has anyone made contact (personally or electronically) with CTI yet?

He stopped responding to me after I made payment. I tried 2 emails to both his email addresses, neither returned, before I filed with paypal.

My money was refunded this morning after paypal finished the claim.

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[glock21xxx]

He stopped responding to me after I made payment. I tried 2 emails to both his email addresses, neither returned, before I filed with paypal.

My money was refunded this morning after paypal finished the claim.

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I think I was the only one who actually got my refund back from HIM before he skipped town and started dodging comms. I hope you all get your money back and this dude gets whats coming to him.

[Switch]

Finally got an email from PayPal and they ruled in my favor gotta wait up to 7 days before the money goes into my account.

[gtmule]

As info:

www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?315332-WTS-Used-Surefire-M600-Scout-Lights-with-KL4-LED-Head

[SeriousStudent]

As info:

www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?315332-WTS-Used-Surefire-M600-Scout-Lights-with-KL4-LED-Head

Thanks for the heads up. I may know a mod over there, and will pass the word.