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Is this type of upper assembly legal to purchase online if you live in CA?
Are there any other restrictions with regards to upper assemblies for CA?
HBRs, bayonet lugs or God forbid, the M4 notch?:D
California doesn't care about uppers specifically because uppers are not guns. It's the configuration of the whole rifle that matters. Go to www.calguns.net and read up there, and then ask if you have questions. California's bigoted gun laws are mostly beyond the scope of this site...
California doesn't care about uppers specifically because uppers are not guns. It's the configuration of the whole rifle that matters. Go to www.calguns.net and read up there, and then ask if you have questions. California's bigoted gun laws are mostly beyond the scope of this site...
Thanks for the link! I read it and man does CA have ridiculous gun laws. It's vague and in turn would make it rather ineffective. Sorry about this, I just couldnt believe the restrictions and the loop holes.:confused:
I'm in California. Yes, the rules are absurd and virtually unenforceable. No, you don't want to commit a felony, so read up on what's legal before you come here. Yes, a 14.5" barrel with a permanently attached muzzle device/extension is legal if it's then 16" long (like everywhere else).
+1 for CalGuns.Net for anybody living in CA or thinking of travelling (or God forbid, moving there).
Ben
Ok, now that we've established that 14.5's with permanent breaks are legal, any other restrictions regarding this upper? THe bayonet lug perhaps?
THe bayonet lug perhaps?
The bayonet lug is a non-issue.
Basically, if you're going to have an AR in California, then it CANNOT have a detachable magazine, and it has to be built around an "off-list lower."
You really need to take a look at the FAQs on CalGuns.net...
Ben
The bayonet lug is a non-issue.
Basically, if you're going to have an AR in California, then it CANNOT have a detachable magazine, and it has to be built around an "off-list lower."
You really need to take a look at the FAQs on CalGuns.net...
Ben
evil features + bullet button / prince 50 = tool to remove mags
featureless + monster grip = detachable mags
Sorry guys. CA law's just too vague and full of loop holes. I need to ask about one particular part and brand Im unsure about legally speaking. Specifically, a complete Bushmaster 14.5 upper with a permanent Phantom brake. Would it be possible to purchase and own this component and this component alone(no other parts to assemble a complete assault weapon) considering that it is manufactured by BM and it does have a FH but again, is not a complete weapon by itself?
the lower is the gun, those are banned by name. you can buy any upper.
The “assault weapon” laws here are really quite strait forward … There are two separate elements… The first has to do with specific manufacturers and models on “the list”. This law dates from 1989 and specifies banned firearms by name. On this list both the Colt AR-15 and Springfield SAR-48 are banned by name. No matter what you do to them, it does not matter, the stripped receivers themselves are restricted by name. Now the Colt Sporter and Springfield SAR-4800 are not on this list, so they are not banned and can enter California.
The second element is the later feature ban, which for rifles only applies to a semi-automatic, center-fire rifle, that can accept an ammunition feeding device greater than ten rounds AND has any of the following: a pistol grip, a flash hider, or a folding/collapsing stock…
None of the parts themselves are banned, and there is no “constructive” possession… Any AR lower receiver not on the list is 100% legal to own, hence the term “OLL” or off list lower. A rim-fire rifle can have all the evil features you want, because the law specifies center-fire…
Additionally the law states that a magazine is considered fixed if it has to be removed with a “tool” and it specially lists a bullet as a “tool” . Thus the bullet button AR magazine catch was born…
In the FAL world, the FN FAL is banned by name, thus the receiver itself is restricted, but Imbels and DSAs are not on the list, and they are 100% legal to own. If you simply remove the gas piston and spring, and turn the gas plug to the GR setting, you have a single shot rifle that can have all the evil features you want, because as configured it is not a semi automatic firearm, and thus not restricted. When you leave the State, restore the piston and you are back in business…
Or if you want a semi-automatic, you could put a piece of wood inside the magazine under the follower so it will only accept 10 rounds, replace the spring in the magazine catch with a small rod so once assembled the magazine is “fixed”. Then use a stripper clip dust cover and again, you can have all the evil features you want…
Just my .02
B
Thanks for all your posts!:D
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