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Eurodriver
05-11-14, 13:27
This upcoming season id like to finally go small game hunting. I'd like a good 22 that is light enough to hump around all day, accurate enough to bag a squirrel or rabbit at 50 yards, and preferably has a threaded barrel as I have an AAC Pilot 2. Hunting with cans is illegal in Florida so the threaded barrel isn't a necessity.
I had a 10/22 but went the "tacticool" route with a heavy ass barrel, stock, bipod etc. What is a good bolt gun for this and what kind of optics work well for what I'm trying to do? (I know nothing about optics other than aimpoints and tactical NFs and S&Bs)
Check out Savage. They are very accurate, and they have a few models with threaded barrels.
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Anschütz 1727.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RW1hUXGJ1Tk
Anschütz are damn nice rifles. Have a friend who had one in .22WMR and from his back door racked up over 200 squirrels over the course of a couple years and was taking those shots at closer to 100 meters over 50. That said, Savage does make a pretty damn accurate rifle, picked up a M64 in trade and it is more accurate stock than my stock 10/22s in my opinion.
Suppose it comes down to your budget and if you want a semi or bolt action.
LightningFast
05-11-14, 15:08
CZ, all the way.
SurplusShooter
05-11-14, 16:59
For threaded barrel, look at Savage FVSR. Accurate enough for its price-point, and light. For a step-up in quality, look at the CZ-455 and get one in threaded barrel. The threads are different (European), so a CZ will need a thread adapter.
I own two Savage 22 rifles and one CZ452. You can't go wrong either way.
Arkansas Bob
05-11-14, 17:13
I have two CZ452 Scouts for my kids. They are sweet shooters. If I didn't love my remington speedmaster so much I'd for sure have a grown up CZ of my own.
Coal Dragger
05-11-14, 18:02
I have a Cooper M57 that is consistently the most accurate rim fire rifle I've ever used including an Anschutz 1903 that I used to have access to. The Anschutz sporters are very good though, can't go wrong with one. Another good rifle is a Weatherby MK XII which is an Anschutz barreled action in a Weatherby stock. Going a bit lower in price any of the CZ rimfires are excellent, and Savage also makes an accurate rifle.
Quick Draw
05-11-14, 19:46
I have a CZ 452 American with 3X9 Leupold which is quite accurate. Also a Ruger 1022 with a trigger job and Nikon EFR3X9 AO which gets the job done on squirrels. Try different brands of ammo in either to find your most accurate load and have fun.
The part about trying a variety of ammo is quite a challenge now with the shortage.
If you are looking for a premium priced rifle the go with a Cooper although they are almost too beautiful for a "working" gun such as a squirrel rifle. Go to the Cooper website, they are awesome.
Edit: replaced 1022 Bushnell with a Nikon EFR 3X9x40 AO and really like it.
Leaveammoforme
05-11-14, 21:46
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I am a big fan of marlins as well. my 60 is a tack driver. My Marlin 880sq will shot sub 1.5 moa 5 shot groups at 200 yards and I know it can do better.
BuzzinSATX
05-12-14, 06:44
I shot a friends Ruger American Rimfire that really shot good groups, one ragged 5 shot hole at 25 yards...plenty accurate and the price is good. Uses the same mags as your 10-22.
But most .22s today will kill small game to 50 yards...trick will be to find what ammo best shoots from your particular rifle.
BuzzinSATX
05-12-14, 06:46
Another great option IMO would be a Henry lever gun. They shoot very respectable groups with quality ammo, and their fun factor is hard to beat.
CZ, all the way.
I agree and since you want it scoped look at the American.
I ran a Marlin 880SQ for rodent work and it did well for me. It could be threaded if needed.
CZ, all the way.
The CZ 452/ 455 series of rifles are absolute tack drivers. I own both and would recommend the 452, but either works.
The scoped 455 American I own shoots dime sized groups at 60 yards with CCI mini-mag hps.
However, I agree that the Savage and Marlin rifles are good value, but the CZs are just made with old fashioned craftsmanship rarely seen anymore.
A quality 3X9 scope should be fine for hunting, both Leupold and Nikon make rimfire models. I use a Leupold VII 3X9 Centerfire on my 455 and works well from 10 yards to 100.
P.S. Mine have taken 6 tree squirrels so far. ;)
Eurodriver
05-13-14, 05:12
Thanks for all of the info guys. I should have mentioned this in the OP but its going to come down to price as well. While I'd love the "best", I don't want to drop $1,000 into a gun I'll use twice a year.
I'll start looking at the CZs. I have felt the Savage FSVR and it is a little heavy for what I want. I never considered Anschutz, so I'll look at those too.
Averageman
05-13-14, 11:14
Some time ago I found a .22 bolt action Charles Daley on the used rifle rack. very accurate gun I believe made by Zastava.
Come with very nice easily adjustable irons, nice stock and a decent trigger. I paid $175 for it and put a Burris Timberline scope on it and I'm very happy with it.
Another thought would be to get a beater 10-22 from a pawn shop and build it up from there. Nice potential, fun gun and lots of aftermarket stuff to get all of the potential accuracy out of it.
I have one that's become a bit of an obsession, Houge Stock, Brownells Bull Barrel with a Nikon 3-9 variable scope with a BDC and a Burris fast fire mounted at an 8 O'Clock position.
Heavy for a squirrel gun but having both scopes you can shoot from 10 to 100 yds pretty fast with hold over/under and no sope adjustment.
brickboy240
05-14-14, 15:27
Go scour the pawn shops for an early Remington bolt action 22 rifle. The Models, 510, 511, 512 and 514.
Some have 6 shot mags, some are tube fed, some are single shots. All have thick and long barrels, wood stocks and great triggers. Most have grooved receivers ready for rings and a scope. All are also VERY accurate.
I have a 1950s Remington 511 with a 3x9x32 Simmons on Millet steel rings. The rifle ran me maybe 100 bucks at a pawn shop and give me dime sized groups at 50yds.
Skip the 10-22 and other semis with their terrible triggers. Skip the 300-400 dollar newer 22 bolt guns...grab one of these Remingtons and put a scope on it and go drop squirrels like mad.
-brickboy240
bnanaphone
05-15-14, 09:41
You may want to look at a CZ 455 American with threaded barrel. It has a hunting taper to the barrel, vs the heavy varmint barrel, and should be more comfortable for carrying around. Another benefit to the 455 is the barrel changing capability. You can swap out to a .17 HMR or .22 Mag if you want.
When I was looking for my .22 bolt gun/suppressor host I looked at the CZs and Savage FVSR. I wound up getting the Savage because it will just be a quiet plinker. The accuracy has been very satisfactory. Outfitted with a SWFA 6x42 and Tacticool stock, it isn't something I would want to carry for too long.
Savage on a budget (with the accutrigger) or CZ for a nicer one with a little more coin. I went with the Savage FVSR and Boyds stock with DIP bottom metal. I'm very happy with it and the accuracy is outstanding for the price.
The classic squirrel rifle has got to be the Marlin 39A. Plenty accurate, great balance, sufficient ammo capacity and the immeasurable cool factor.
Eurodriver
05-18-14, 17:10
Savage on a budget (with the accutrigger) or CZ for a nicer one with a little more coin. I went with the Savage FVSR and Boyds stock with DIP bottom metal. I'm very happy with it and the accuracy is outstanding for the price.
Is that FVSR heavy? Even in November here it's 85 degrees, humid, with direct sun. Lightness is key.
SurplusShooter
05-18-14, 17:33
Not sure exact weights, but I put a Boyd's stock on my FVSR and I only shoot it from a bench.
Ready.Fire.Aim
05-18-14, 18:30
I squirrel hunt regularly, on my land I have a 50 acre pecan orchard as a side business.
I like my CZ-452-2E. Bolt action .22LR 5 shot magazine with a factory 16" threaded barrel.
I replaced the trigger with a Timney Trigger setup at 3 pounds.
It has a lightweight screw on suppressor from Johns Guns. I have a couple other .22 suppressors, this is a sealed unit and thus very light.
Scope is a Leupold VXII 3x9x33 Lightweight EFR.
EFR means Extended Focus Range, it is parallex adjustable to within a few yards and only weighs 11.5 ounces.
I use Wolf Match Ammo, subsonic and great quality. Wolf Match is made in Germany.
I only go for head shots, the rifle-trigger-scope-silencer-ammo setup is very accurate if I do my part and quiet.
Have fun,
RFA
TunaFisherman
05-18-14, 18:40
I have CZ 452A and Savage Mark ii. If you looking for light carry the Savage is great and pretty accurate for hunting squirrels and other little critters and leave you enough $$$ for a nice scope. $18 in Krylon paint and you have this.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u117/halibuthunter05/bdceb78c033332093073486f4a80390d_zps47659450.jpg
Is that FVSR heavy? Even in November here it's 85 degrees, humid, with direct sun. Lightness is key.
It's not a lightweight, but it's lighter than a 10-22 with a steel .920" barrel. For a LW rifle, I have a 10-22 with a threaded Tac-Sol barrel.
My Marlin 60 has put a lot of squirrels in the crock pot for the last 30 years...
bnanaphone
05-22-14, 12:37
As far as weight goes, my FVSR with Tacticool stock, DIP bottom metal, 30mm cheapo rings, an SWFA 6x42 and Spectre II weighs in at 9 lbs even on my bathroom scale. It doesn't feel too heavy, but I am sure the weight will feel more significant after an hour in the woods.
A simple bolt action rifle with a fixed 4X scope should fit your needs. I have a Marlin .22 Magnum bolt action rifle with a fixed 4X Bushnell scope on it and I have anchored coyotes with it out to 100 yards. I picked up the scope at Gander Mountain on a clearance display for $40.
A hollow point .22 LR should do the trick on a squirrel or rabbit.
You don't have to spend big bucks for an accurate .22LR. I have been competing with Savages the past few years and they shoot well enough to get the job done. My CZ452 has been collecting dust since I bought a heavy barrel Savage with peep sights.
+1 on the Savage MK2. They're a great deal and are pretty accurate for the coin. A friend and I were dumping squirrels at 100 yards with ours. I just got mine back from getting it threaded, they make a great silencer host.
weedsnager
05-24-14, 06:38
Cz452
Have any of you Savage Mark 2 owners experienced feeding issues with 10rd mags? I picked up a FV-SR and 2 10rd mags a couple of weeks ago and had feeding issues with both 10rd mags and snap caps. The 5rd mag that came with the rifle functioned fine.
Have any of you Savage Mark 2 owners experienced feeding issues with 10rd mags? I picked up a FV-SR and 2 10rd mags a couple of weeks ago and had feeding issues with both 10rd mags and snap caps. The 5rd mag that came with the rifle functioned fine.
I only own one 10 round magazine and it works fine in both of my Savages.
SurplusShooter
05-24-14, 17:44
Have any of you Savage Mark 2 owners experienced feeding issues with 10rd mags? I picked up a FV-SR and 2 10rd mags a couple of weeks ago and had feeding issues with both 10rd mags and snap caps. The 5rd mag that came with the rifle functioned fine.
Yes, this is a known issue on 10 round mags. You need to trim the follower to get more Tip-up on feeding. Search on Rimfire Central forums they have a thread with pictures that explains it. I had the problem and did the fix to 3 of my mags, all better now.
I only own one 10 round magazine and it works fine in both of my Savages.
Yes, this is a known issue on 10 round mags. You need to trim the follower to get more Tip-up on feeding. Search on Rimfire Central forums they have a thread with pictures that explains it. I had the problem and did the fix to 3 of my mags, all better now.
Thanks for your input guys. I guess the 10rd mags (at least mine) don't like snap caps; I shot it for the first time this morning and Federal American Eagle suppressor ammo fed w/o any issue. Next time, I'll try Federal bulk pack, CCI standard velocity, and Blazer.
Anyway, I am impressed with this rifle. It is a tack driver.
Lost River
07-13-14, 13:00
I have a CZ 452, along with a custom barreled 10-22, and a slew of various other .22s. That being said, the last I would ever part with is my old Marlin Mountie 20" lever action. It is a high quality rifle built for an adult shooter and "minute of a Jack rabbit's head" accurate.
ADDICTED2TONE
08-03-14, 12:21
You can't beat a Marlin Model 60 with a simmons 22mag or any other 4x32 rimfire scope.
I have been droppin tree rats since late 80s with a Model 60.
Savage also makes some awesome 22 rifles.
You can't beat a Marlin Model 60 with a simmons 22mag or any other 4x32 rimfire scope.
I have been droppin tree rats since late 80s with a Model 60.
Savage also makes some awesome 22 rifles.
I'd go out on a limb her and say you're probably better off with an older Model 60. Marlin's QC has tanked along with much of the rest of the Freedom Group holdings in recent years. I recently picked up a 1994 mfg. Model 60 in pristine condition and it's delightful. The trigger's not even too bad (a known but correctable issue on the Model 60).
I can't say the same for the Simmons .22 Mag 3-9X32 AO scope I just picked up for it. On the first outing to sight it in, the reticle broke free and turned in the tube. Now it will be going back for replacement. :(
I think it's tough to beat a plain jane Marlin Model 60. I have owned 3 and currently still have 2. All have been accurate (<1inch at fifty).
^^^This - Model 60: Inexpensive, reliable, very accurate right out of the box.
Annie 1416, but there are many other that are good enough.
ADDICTED2TONE
08-03-14, 13:18
I'd go out on a limb her and say you're probably better off with an older Model 60. Marlin's QC has tanked along with much of the rest of the Freedom Group holdings in recent years. I recently picked up a 1994 mfg. Model 60 in pristine condition and it's delightful. The trigger's not even too bad (a known but correctable issue on the Model 60).
I can't say the same for the Simmons .22 Mag 3-9X32 AO scope I just picked up for it. On the first outing to sight it in, the reticle broke free and turned in the tube. Now it will be going back for replacement. :(
I have two model 60s. One from the 80s and one I bought in 2013. Both shoot fine, other than the pretty black walnut laminated stock on my new one they feel and shoot identical.
I have heard of simmons scopes breaking but I've not had that problem yet. I've only owned 2 of em.
I have a hard time putting much more than a $50 scope on a sub $200 firearm lol! So I buy cheap scopes for my 22s
I have owned many jm stamped marlins, I'm kinda into older guns. I own some back to the 1920s.
I also bought a post marlin 336w. Its not the best finish I've ever seen but it's a great deer, yote and hog rifle. It has this kinda parkerized finish on it.
I think that the freedom group has the bugs worked out.
28109
You can't go wrong with CZ. You get ALOT of gun for the money.
Eurodriver
08-22-14, 08:39
This thread is over 3 months old and I still haven't made a decision.
There are just so damn many. I like the CZs but I don't know anything about them...or any other .22 except the Ruger 10/22.
This thread is over 3 months old and I still haven't made a decision.
There are just so damn many. I like the CZs but I don't know anything about them...or any other .22 except the Ruger 10/22.
How will you know for sure unless you get something other than a 10/22 and try it? Buy used and if you don't like it you can probably get your money back out of it. Heck, if you buy right, you might even make money on it.
You could go Browning T bolt. Very nice. Get a custom Kidd 10-22. Or get an Anschutz. If you want to go iron sights, do the Henry Lever Action. Just buy one and start shooting.
Eurodriver
08-22-14, 10:45
Can you guys list specific model numbers to narrow it down? Instead of saying CZ or Anschutz? I'm not trying to avoid doing research, but CZ and Anschutz make probably a dozen .22s at least.
crusader377
08-22-14, 12:15
I'm a huge fan of CZ .22. I have a CZ 455 Lux and it is an outstanding rifle. If I do my job, it will put 10rds of bulk .22 inside of a dime at 50M easily. I bet with match ammo it could be one hole accurate or close.
crusader377
08-22-14, 12:21
Can you guys list specific model numbers to narrow it down? Instead of saying CZ or Anschutz? I'm not trying to avoid doing research, but CZ and Anschutz make probably a dozen .22s at least.
Eurodriver,
I have had great luck with the CZ 455 Lux, which has iron sights and a nice walnut stock. I purchased mine for around $375 from buds.
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-455-lux-22-lr-5-rd-mag/
The CZ 452/455 military trainer is also a great buy with a longer 24" barrel and a less expensive beach stock instead of walnut. I don't know on the 455 but I know the CZ 452 military trainer has very precise iron sights.
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-455-training-rifle-22-lr-beech-5-rd-mag/
The rifle I have pictured above is a CZ452. It has had some work done to it by William Roscoe (La Precision Rifle) and is amazingly accurate. I can make a ragged hole at 100yds with match ammo, and can hit cans at 200. Don't hesitate buying any CZ, they are GREAT rifles. My Savage never leaves the safe.
I have a 452 American that does not come with sights, but I have a 3x9 Leupold that's works well with it. If you prefer irons, I love my 452 full stock (fs). The 455 has replaced the 452, but you should still be able to find a 452 model that you like. 455s have interchangeable barrels of that's your thing.
Anschutz 1416 HB, Heavy Barrel is relative in .22 talk-not so heavy. Cabelas just got a bunch in. They are the hands down "best" . But sub moa is sub moa. Check Buds and Cabelas because they come in and out od stock fairly quickly. Id buy any Annie under $1,100. Some if the nicest ones are ridiculously priced.
brickboy240
09-03-14, 14:33
You do not HAVE to spend 1100 dollars to get a worthy squirrel getter.
BravoHotel
09-03-14, 16:22
Here's my new Savage I recently finished. Looking forward to getting out soon to sight it in and then putting the hurt on the local squirrel population. In a few months when I move across the border to the 6.5 acres I just purchased I'll be ordering a Spectre 22 for it. :neo:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/149467/PHOTO%20HOSTING/Savage%20.22%20Rifle/IMG_1951.JPG
Reading this thread makes it sound like folks need a $$$$ rifle just to shoot a few squirrels. Not true. Most any .22 will do just fine, even a newer cheap-o. While all the fit and finish of the European stuff is great, the average domestic will kill things just as dead. Save your money for a scope you will be happy with and of course, more ammo.
I have a black synthetic stock Savage model 93R17 .17 cal HMR with 3-9 Bushnell scope.
The trigger is great.
Accuracy is excellent.
I dispatch much small game with excellent results.
I bought this rifle new about 4 years ago for under $200.00 and the scope for about $40.00. The scope does a fine job.
CZ 455 American 22LR / 17 HMR combo.
I'm a huge fan of CZ .22. I have a CZ 455 Lux and it is an outstanding rifle. If I do my job, it will put 10rds of bulk .22 inside of a dime at 50M easily. I bet with match ammo it could be one hole accurate or close.
I'll second that recommendation. My CZ 452 Lux will shoot 10 shot 1-1/2" groups at 100 yards with CCI Blazer bulk pack ammunition. With Wolf MT it will shoot under 1".
davidjinks
09-24-14, 15:39
Ruger M77/22
10 round detachable rotary mag, included scope mounts and scope. It's light enough to hump all day and accurate enough for 100 yard shots. I walked OTD with a NIB 77 for $ 549.00.
My 14 y/o hunts with the same rifle and has taken game out to 75 yards with it.
The scope is a Bushnell. It isn't NF or S&B but it does everything I need it to do.
I've shot just about every 22 ammo I could find on the market and there is t a single one it doesn't like.
This thread is over 3 months old and I still haven't made a decision.
There are just so damn many. I like the CZs but I don't know anything about them...or any other .22 except the Ruger 10/22.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r166/jwpend/005-3.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r166/jwpend/007-3.jpg
That gun all together might have cost me $150.00. Shoots Wolf MT (upper left) decently at 50yds. Ammo is where you want to spend the money, subsonic and of good manuf. when it comes to .22lr.
This upcoming season id like to finally go small game hunting. I'd like a good 22 that is light enough to hump around all day, accurate enough to bag a squirrel or rabbit at 50 yards, and preferably has a threaded barrel as I have an AAC Pilot 2. Hunting with cans is illegal in Florida so the threaded barrel isn't a necessity.
I had a 10/22 but went the "tacticool" route with a heavy ass barrel, stock, bipod etc. What is a good bolt gun for this and what kind of optics work well for what I'm trying to do? (I know nothing about optics other than aimpoints and tactical NFs and S&Bs)
You know, I am really enjoying my M&P 15-22 with a Aimpoint H-1 and a Sparrow 22 can. With subs it sounds like a pellet rifle and is accurate enough for the little furry rats. You might want to borrow one if you don't own one and try it out. It's quite, fun as hell, light and mag capacity can't be beat.
CZ, all the way.
What he said.
Eurodriver
10-26-14, 20:57
Looked at the CZ 455, I think, at a LGS the other day. Wood stock, nice bolt. Think it was $399.
What I don't like is the dovetail scope mount. are there any that have screws for mounting weaver/pic rings?
Looked at the CZ 455, I think, at a LGS the other day. Wood stock, nice bolt. Think it was $399.
What I don't like is the dovetail scope mount. are there any that have screws for mounting weaver/pic rings?
Depending on which rail you have, I would use these.
https://www.jnpgunsprings.com/product_info.php?cPath=10&products_id=247
https://www.jnpgunsprings.com/product_info.php?cPath=10&products_id=236
Looked at the CZ 455, I think, at a LGS the other day. Wood stock, nice bolt. Think it was $399.
What I don't like is the dovetail scope mount. are there any that have screws for mounting weaver/pic rings?
The factory rings are pricey (paid $60 for mine) but work great. The 455 American in .22lr is a amazing little rifle and will serve you well.
I polished up my bolt and extractor and it even loads and shoots shorts for close varmint control.
Go to rimfirecentral everything you would want to know about these rifles is on there.
Eurodriver
12-09-14, 19:29
Ordered a Savage FVSR Mk II after watching TwangNBang's video on it.
I couldn't resist. $250 OTD, comes with a threaded barrel, accurate, and as of last week Florida now allows hunting with a suppressor. That changed the whole dynamic.
What is a good optic for this rifle? Thinking 3-9x.
Ordered a Savage FVSR Mk II after watching TwangNBang's video on it.
I couldn't resist. $250 OTD, comes with a threaded barrel, accurate, and as of last week Florida now allows hunting with a suppressor. That changed the whole dynamic.
What is a good optic for this rifle? Thinking 3-9x.
I've used 3-9x32 on my 22 squirrel rifle for 16 + years, always has served the purpose filling bag limit of tree rats for me.
I love my ruger 10/22. Sporting a full length walnut Mannlicher stock and old weaver k400 with fixed 4x power. It's the perfect small gamer gun in my opinion. I've reached out to 100-120 yards on groundhogs as well without an issue.
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SeriousStudent
12-09-14, 22:19
Ordered a Savage FVSR Mk II after watching TwangNBang's video on it.
I couldn't resist. $250 OTD, comes with a threaded barrel, accurate, and as of last week Florida now allows hunting with a suppressor. That changed the whole dynamic.
What is a good optic for this rifle? Thinking 3-9x.
I am building the same rifle. I am leaning towards this optic:
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-diamondback-3-5-10x50-riflescope-v-plex-reticle
Scott at Liberty Optics is a good dude for getting you a Vortex at a good price. I like the larger objective for shooting around dusk. A suppressed .22 in the brain housing group would do a number on a coyote.
I am building the same rifle. I am leaning towards this optic:
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-diamondback-3-5-10x50-riflescope-v-plex-reticle
Scott at Liberty Optics is a good dude for getting you a Vortex at a good price. I like the larger objective for shooting around dusk. A suppressed .22 in the brain housing group would do a number on a coyote.
That looks like a nice bang for the buck scope, I might have to upgrade
I don't know your intended use, but I hear great things about this little scope.
http://www.clearidgeoptics.com/product-p/cle3300.htm
I personally use an older 3-9x40 Leupold AO. If I didn't already have it, I would have purchased the Clearidge.
Eurodriver
12-10-14, 07:06
I just emailed Scott to check in stock status on both the 3.5-10x50 and the 3-9x40
Is the 50mm really worth $60 more?
ETA: Scott emailed me and said both scopes are out of stock and overdue for delivery.
SeriousStudent
12-11-14, 00:47
I just emailed Scott to check in stock status on both the 3.5-10x50 and the 3-9x40
Is the 50mm really worth $60 more?
ETA: Scott emailed me and said both scopes are out of stock and overdue for delivery.
Dunno about the $60. I honestly think it depends on your purpose. If it's going to be a fun rifle that you shoot in "broad daylight", I probably would not bother.
I tended to shoot a lot of God's tasty creatures at dawn and dusk, and appreciated the extra light.
Lost River
12-14-14, 19:55
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Lost River
12-14-14, 19:59
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http://swfa.com/Mueller-45-14x40-APV-Riflescope-P9136.aspx
Very popular scope in the rimfire community.
Eurodriver
12-16-14, 09:44
That's actually what I just bought on Amazon, JDub. Hoping to get it to the range Thursday.
SeriousStudent
12-17-14, 00:43
A friend has that Mueller on an old Remington bolt-action .22, and swears by it. He's not a real cheap bastard, but his last name isn't Gates, either.
That's actually what I just bought on Amazon, JDub. Hoping to get it to the range Thursday.
I'll be damned, great minds DO think alike.
I know you already bought a Savage (which is what I actually suggested too....im kinda freaked out that we're both on the same page...twice), but the new Ruger American rimfire is available with a threaded barrel. Price is decent, and reviews are reporting they are accurate.
Alpha Sierra
12-17-14, 09:47
Any CZ bolt action.
Go air. That way you don't need a can. Some of them are incredibly accurate for the price and ammo is cheap and abundant. A modern .22 pellet rifle is more than enough for a squirrel.
Go air. That way you don't need a can. Some of them are incredibly accurate for the price and ammo is cheap and abundant. A modern .22 pellet rifle is more than enough for a squirrel.
PCP guns are a game changer for sure.
PCP guns are a game changer for sure.
Some of those rifles are nuts! But even a Sheridan Blue/Silver streak would work fine if you don't mind pumping.
Some of those rifles are nuts! But even a Sheridan Blue/Silver streak would work fine if you don't mind pumping.
True. But go big or go home. I will eventually get a Daystate or FX pcp airgun.
True. But go big or go home. I will eventually get a Daystate or FX pcp airgun.
I remember my Sheridan being able to punch through our picket fence at 60 feet or so. Anything more seems like overkill on a squirrel unless you're going far. I'll eventually get a crazy airgun. In a SHTF situation, finding a tank to charge your PCP could be an issue.
Eurodriver
12-17-14, 16:55
A friend has that Mueller on an old Remington bolt-action .22, and swears by it. He's not a real cheap bastard, but his last name isn't Gates, either.
That's what I've heard. Quiet-Riot, aka TwangNBang did a pretty good review of it. I've also heard good things pretty much everywhere.
I'll be damned, great minds DO think alike.
I know you already bought a Savage (which is what I actually suggested too....im kinda freaked out that we're both on the same page...twice), but the new Ruger American rimfire is available with a threaded barrel. Price is decent, and reviews are reporting they are accurate.
Yeah, it's a little odd. I saw the pic you posted a while ago. I took it into consideration and did more research. Ended up getting the same thing, albeit with a threaded barrel. How odd.
I will get pics up when I get the scope mounted. Just haven't found the time yet. I got a Harris S-BRM bipod for it as well. I think it's still short and light enough for squirrel shooting with the bipod attached, but I can always take it off.
SeriousStudent
12-17-14, 23:00
Hmmm.... I wonder if it would be worth starting a new thread about airguns and varmints?
The business about being able to buy an airgun with an integral suppressor has always intrigued me. Especially with the volume of tree-rats and rabbits lingering here around Rancho Serious. My dog can't keep up with all of them.
But a shooting bench on the back deck with a cigar and a cold cerveza sounds like a fine way to test an airgun. :cool:
Anybody here knowledgeable on airguns and their optics?
Eurodriver
12-18-14, 07:59
Hmmm.... I wonder if it would be worth starting a new thread about airguns and varmints?
The business about being able to buy an airgun with an integral suppressor has always intrigued me. Especially with the volume of tree-rats and rabbits lingering here around Rancho Serious. My dog can't keep up with all of them.
But a shooting bench on the back deck with a cigar and a cold cerveza sounds like a fine way to test an airgun. :cool:
Anybody here knowledgeable on airguns and their optics?
Definitely. Sounds like Shao and JDub know quite a bit. I'd start the thread, but I wouldn't know where to begin.
Here in EuroCity, shooting a suppressed .22 is verboten extraordinaire. But an airgun would be quite nice. How quiet can they get?
Hmmm.... I wonder if it would be worth starting a new thread about airguns and varmints?
The business about being able to buy an airgun with an integral suppressor has always intrigued me. Especially with the volume of tree-rats and rabbits lingering here around Rancho Serious. My dog can't keep up with all of them.
But a shooting bench on the back deck with a cigar and a cold cerveza sounds like a fine way to test an airgun. :cool:
Anybody here knowledgeable on airguns and their optics?
If you want to dabble in airguns, check out this dudes youtube channel...
https://www.youtube.com/user/EdgunUSA/videos
Got me interested in PCP airguns.
Eurodriver
12-18-14, 08:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch2n1a4Q_Z0
Awesome video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJVxNxXHmc
Insanity. Thanks for sharing dub. This guy is the real deal. I'm not sure if I'll ever want to spend $3300 on an airgun, but that Crosman is $500 and it seems pretty legit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIklqgXi05A
In this video you can see the extreme accuracy at 1:10. Crazy!
Hmmm.... I wonder if it would be worth starting a new thread about airguns and varmints?
The business about being able to buy an airgun with an integral suppressor has always intrigued me. Especially with the volume of tree-rats and rabbits lingering here around Rancho Serious. My dog can't keep up with all of them.
But a shooting bench on the back deck with a cigar and a cold cerveza sounds like a fine way to test an airgun. :cool:
Anybody here knowledgeable on airguns and their optics?
Definitely something I'm interested in for my son AND me we can squirrel and rabbit hunt right out back as well. Here is a couple links I've looked at recently.
http://thebestairrifle.com/
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/guns/rifles/2014/06/4-air-rifles-you-can-actually-shoot
Insanity. Thanks for sharing dub. This guy is the real deal. I'm not sure if I'll ever want to spend $3300 on an airgun, but that Crosman is $500 and it seems pretty legit.
No problem. They can get pricey quickly, which is why I still haven't taken the plunge. But with all the idiot hoarders out there killing the price and availability of .22lr, well except for the good stuff like eley, sk, wolf (yes that wolf), and lapua (if you have real deep pockets), an air rifle is making more and more sense. I mean I cant even find Remington Subsonics (that my savage shoots quite well at 50yds). Usually the bubba hoarders just want the hyper velocity stuff....you know for zombies and such (they don't know or cant fathom that slower=better in the world of .22lr).
An FX bobcat in .22 or .25 caliber is on my "need to break down and buy list". Along with refill tanks, etc.
So euro, when is the first small game hunt you got planned? I've struck out on big game this year (again), so Im going wabbit hunting here pretty soon myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch2n1a4Q_Z0
Awesome video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJVxNxXHmc
Insanity. Thanks for sharing dub. This guy is the real deal. I'm not sure if I'll ever want to spend $3300 on an airgun, but that Crosman is $500 and it seems pretty legit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIklqgXi05A
In this video you can see the extreme accuracy at 1:10. Crazy!
Those are awesome! I had no idea they got that crazy expensive.
SeriousStudent
12-18-14, 21:52
Thanks for the links, J-Dub. Ted sounds like he has his feces coagulated in those videos.
That $500 Benjamin does look like a worthwhile investment. I might have finally found a use for my old SCUBA tanks.
Thanks for the links, J-Dub. Ted sounds like he has his feces coagulated in those videos.
That $500 Benjamin does look like a worthwhile investment. I might have finally found a use for my old SCUBA tanks.
You guys should take a look at Ted's HoldOver youtube channel. That guy makes some amazing kills with his air rifles.
You guys should take a look at Ted's HoldOver youtube channel. That guy makes some amazing kills with his air rifles.
He does make some great shots! I haven't watched in awhile, but I heard youtube quit letting him show the actual kill. Watching some of his kills gave me more respect for air rifles for hunting/pest control.
He does make some great shots! I haven't watched in awhile, but I heard youtube quit letting him show the actual kill. Watching some of his kills gave me more respect for air rifles for hunting/pest control.
A modern day air rifle with modern ammo is deadly. I have seen larger game killed than just pests. There are still quite a few of his videos that show lots of kills on his channel, although the slow motion woodchuck kills and a few others have been removed. He definitely looks like he has a lot of fun doing what he does.
This upcoming season id like to finally go small game hunting. I'd like a good 22 that is light enough to hump around all day, accurate enough to bag a squirrel or rabbit at 50 yards, and preferably has a threaded barrel as I have an AAC Pilot 2. Hunting with cans is illegal in Florida so the threaded barrel isn't a necessity.
I had a 10/22 but went the "tacticool" route with a heavy ass barrel, stock, bipod etc. What is a good bolt gun for this and what kind of optics work well for what I'm trying to do? (I know nothing about optics other than aimpoints and tactical NFs and S&Bs)
Maybe a Ruger 77/22 with a Nikon P22 2-7x32. Maybe a Leupold VX-2 if you have more coin for the optic. Since you already probably have a bunch of 10/22 mags this might make sense.
Maybe a Ruger 77/22 with a Nikon P22 2-7x32. Maybe a Leupold VX-2 if you have more coin for the optic. Since you already probably have a bunch of 10/22 mags this might make sense.
Crap, just realized you already made a decision. Have fun!
A modern day air rifle with modern ammo is deadly. I have seen larger game killed than just pests. There are still quite a few of his videos that show lots of kills on his channel, although the slow motion woodchuck kills and a few others have been removed. He definitely looks like he has a lot of fun doing what he does.
I saw a show on Sportsman Channel where a guy was hunting boar and whitetail with a PCP air gun. Very neat.
Eurodriver
12-19-14, 06:19
Maybe a Ruger 77/22 with a Nikon P22 2-7x32. Maybe a Leupold VX-2 if you have more coin for the optic. Since you already probably have a bunch of 10/22 mags this might make sense.
Nothing says I only have to have one! I did buy the Savage, but I still want to pick up a wood stocked, blued .22 for those times I don't want to seem tacticool.
Although, with suppressors legal for use hunting now there's actually a purpose behind the threaded barrel so maybe I'm not really being tacticool at all...
No problem. They can get pricey quickly, which is why I still haven't taken the plunge. But with all the idiot hoarders out there killing the price and availability of .22lr, well except for the good stuff like eley, sk, wolf (yes that wolf), and lapua (if you have real deep pockets), an air rifle is making more and more sense. I mean I cant even find Remington Subsonics (that my savage shoots quite well at 50yds). Usually the bubba hoarders just want the hyper velocity stuff....you know for zombies and such (they don't know or cant fathom that slower=better in the world of .22lr).
An FX bobcat in .22 or .25 caliber is on my "need to break down and buy list". Along with refill tanks, etc.
So euro, when is the first small game hunt you got planned? I've struck out on big game this year (again), so Im going wabbit hunting here pretty soon myself.
Small Game just started here (til March 1), and Deer season ends any day now. My schedule allows me to be free most weekdays, and due to the overwhelming number of gun totin' bubba's that permeate our woodlands I'm hoping small game season during the week will be way less busy once deer season ends. I also have to find out when the annual Rainbow Gathering is so I can avoid that. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Gathering)
Another issue is that I drive a car and need a truck to get out to these lands. I have family members with 4x4 trucks, but they interact with PD more than you do. The last thing I need is a drug dog finding cocaine or marijuana or meth, or a big ass quart-sized bag of Valium in my vehicle while I'm out hunting and waiting for me to get back.
Another issue is that I drive a car and need a truck to get out to these lands. I have family members with 4x4 trucks, but they interact with PD more than you do. The last thing I need is a drug dog finding cocaine or marijuana or meth, or a big ass quart-sized bag of Valium in my vehicle while I'm out hunting and waiting for me to get back.
I've hunted out of a car (Subaru at that...hippies were weeping), im sure you could find an access point to some public spots that are accessible with a car. Or maybe use a mountain bike (if you have one). Lots of folks out west use MTB's to access public land.
Alpha Sierra
12-19-14, 08:27
I would have fun walking around public land armed to the teeth while a Rainbow Gathering is going on.
Eurodriver
12-19-14, 15:25
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w521/6234987u02/IMG_14031_zpsce3689b1.jpg
Finally got it put together
This optic is very clear for $130 though. Very very clear. I am impressed. Can't wait to take it to the range.
Nice looking set up congrats, good luck hunting looks like a dandy squirrel rifle.
That $500 Benjamin does look like a worthwhile investment. I might have finally found a use for my old SCUBA tanks.
I would have to agree 100% with you, especially after watching this, I'm sold.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OUEwxg32s6Y
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NNTepTqFRpk
Eurodriver
12-20-14, 16:43
Put about 100+ rounds through it today.
This thing is fun as hell. Here are some thoughts:
1) I was using cheap Remington bulk ammo. I think this contributed to my groups. I almost always seemed to have a flyer or two. This was using the exact same trigger squeeze, exact same POA, exact same everything. No matter what, the ammo would group consistently for a few rounds, toss one, and then consistently again. I also think it may have been the stock coming into contact with the barrel. It's not significant, but if that issue can be addressed it would surely be a benchrest competition capable gun.
This is a 10 round group @ 50 yards
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w521/6234987u02/IMG_1407_zpsdd9ea048.jpg
This is a 5 rd group @ 50 yards after adjusting windage.
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w521/6234987u02/IMG_1406_zps8321d508.jpg
2) The POI drops about 2" and shifts 2" left when removing the suppressor. I didn't expect it to be that drastic. Is that normal?
3) After about the 80th round, my magazine just wouldn't retain ammo anymore. You slide them in, they pop right out. I am emailing savage about this, but are these magazines notorious for failure?
Put about 100+ rounds through it today.
This thing is fun as hell. Here are some thoughts:
1) I was using cheap Remington bulk ammo. I think this contributed to my groups. I almost always seemed to have a flyer or two. This was using the exact same trigger squeeze, exact same POA, exact same everything. No matter what, the ammo would group consistently for a few rounds, toss one, and then consistently again. I also think it may have been the stock coming into contact with the barrel. It's not significant, but if that issue can be addressed it would surely be a benchrest competition capable gun.
This is a 10 round group @ 50 yards
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w521/6234987u02/IMG_1407_zpsdd9ea048.jpg
This is a 5 rd group @ 50 yards after adjusting windage.
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w521/6234987u02/IMG_1406_zps8321d508.jpg
2) The POI drops about 2" and shifts 2" left when removing the suppressor. I didn't expect it to be that drastic. Is that normal?
3) After about the 80th round, my magazine just wouldn't retain ammo anymore. You slide them in, they pop right out. I am emailing savage about this, but are these magazines notorious for failure?
My mags have worked fine. I think your groups will improve nicely with some good ammo. I'd start with some Remington subs, CCI standard, and some WolfMT if you can find it. Anything standard velocity or subsonic should shoot better.
Also for the stock and the forearm flexing. I bought some strips of aluminum I bought at homedepot and used epoxy to glue them in the interior part of the stock, and it helped with the flex (I also added a kydex cheek riser too). Or you could just get a boyds tacticool.
Eurodriver
12-21-14, 13:45
I'll have to take the stock apart to see what you're talking about, but I think I have the idea.
Yeah my mag is toast. Total single shot right now.
Where do you get match 22lr from? Are there any brands that work best? I'll get some CCI standard soon.
I'll have to take the stock apart to see what you're talking about, but I think I have the idea.
Yeah my mag is toast. Total single shot right now.
Where do you get match 22lr from? Are there any brands that work best? I'll get some CCI standard soon.
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=16330
Plenty of match .22lr.
Basically on the stock you can use aluminum to stiffen the forearm of the stock (epoxy it in the forearm channel)
I still don't get why anyone would need a dedicated squirrel rifle. .22LR is overkill for any squirrel on the face of the planet. Add to that the modern day cost and availability of .22LR ammo and it just doesn't make any sense. I can stop a giant gray rat with a .22 pellet rifle. The ammo cost is almost non-existent, accuracy would be equivalent if not better, and you can shoot it in your backyard without drawing the ire of your neighbors. If all you plan on doing is shooting squirrels, it just doesn't make any sense to me to use an actual firearm. Considering squirrels are often found on trees and fence posts, you're violating a rule of gun safety just by taking the shot. It's not like a squirrel is going to run in front of a berm for you.
A squirrel is a fragile meat bag. You can take one out with a .177 air rifle in the 700-800 fps range, a slingshot, blowgun, or even a well chunked rock. I know it sounds ludicrous to say that .22LR is overkill for anything - but... it's a squirrel... I can't wrap my head around it. Is there some aversion to air rifles on this forum?
It's like hunting deer with a .500 Nitro Express. It'll work, but why?
EDITED TO ADD: We live bordering a bayou so we get a lot of possums in our yard, trash, garage, etc... My fiancee is terrified of them. I keep my AR-22 stoked with Aguila SSS rounds and in ready reach just to dispatch them for her. I have never shot one and seen it run away. They just drop on the spot... and I'm not talking cute furry possum babies, I'm talking about full-blown, small-dog sized critters.
I still don't get why anyone would need a dedicated squirrel rifle. .22LR is overkill for any squirrel on the face of the planet. Add to that the modern day cost and availability of .22LR ammo and it just doesn't make any sense. I can stop a giant gray rat with a .22 pellet rifle. The ammo cost is almost non-existent, accuracy would be equivalent if not better, and you can shoot it in your backyard without drawing the ire of your neighbors. If all you plan on doing is shooting squirrels, it just doesn't make any sense to me to use an actual firearm. Considering squirrels are often found on trees and fence posts, you're violating a rule of gun safety just by taking the shot. It's not like a squirrel is going to run in front of a berm for you.
A squirrel is a fragile meat bag. You can take one out with a .177 air rifle in the 700-800 fps range, a slingshot, blowgun, or even a well chunked rock. I know it sounds ludicrous to say that .22LR is overkill for anything - but... it's a squirrel... I can't wrap my head around it. Is there some aversion to air rifles on this forum?
It's like hunting deer with a .500 Nitro Express. It'll work, but why?
EDITED TO ADD: We live bordering a bayou so we get a lot of possums in our yard, trash, garage, etc... My fiancee is terrified of them. I keep my AR-22 stoked with Aguila SSS rounds and in ready reach just to dispatch them for her. I have never shot one and seen it run away. They just drop on the spot... and I'm not talking cute furry possum babies, I'm talking about full-blown, small-dog sized critters.
Some people are just not fond if air rifles. I disagree that a 22lr is overkill for a squirrel . It's Been the perfect squirrel gun for over 100 years. There is a bit of romance to a finely tuned wood grain 22lr if you ask me. You won 't find that in a pellet gun.
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Well I would personally say if I were solely focused on bagging as many tree rats as I could, I'd probably just use a 20ga.
I think the perfect rimfire option for squirrels is the 17hm2 (.22lr necked down to .17), but its all but dead in the water as far as ammo manufacturing goes. An air gun would make a ton of sense, however a .22lr can be had for far less than a nice accurate air gun (and no, not some craptastic springer).
If you have a can, want to hunt squirrels, why not a .22lr? You can do it safely if you choose to, and it is not what I would consider "overkill".
Some people are just not fond if air rifles. I disagree that a 22lr is overkill for a squirrel . It's Been the perfect squirrel gun for over 100 years. There is a bit of romance to a finely tuned wood grain 22lr if you ask me. You won 't find that in a pellet gun.
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I can see where you're coming from as I'm not a pellet guy myself, I was just thinking in terms of best tool for the job... and I have a finely tuned wood grain .22LR that's been passed down since my grandfather. All I know is that you guys must have some monster squirrels where you're at, because the ones we get down here are barely bigger than lab rats.
Eurodriver
01-02-15, 21:44
Any follow ups?
Still haven't gone out yet. Waiting on subsonic ammo to arrive so I can actually see what it sounds like/zero it with match ammo.
If you have a can, want to hunt squirrels, why not a .22lr? You can do it safely if you choose to, and it is not what I would consider "overkill".
Agreed.
Although I would totally like to smack some tree rats with this pcp...
http://tedsholdover.com/2014/07/25/daystate-wolverine-b-22-fac/
Eurodriver
01-17-15, 20:19
Oddly enough, I shot my first squirrel today and it wasn't even with the rifle I bought for it!
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w521/6234987u02/IMG_1602_zps9c0606d2.jpg
I was out on some land with my buddies plinking, heard a tree branch snap way above us and down falls a branch and a squirrel. The squirrel was obviously severely injured, and after watching it for a few minutes I decided the humane thing to do was to shoot it, and put one in its head. I felt badly, as I had no intention to eat it but I couldn't sit there and watch a squirrel try to crawl away with one good leg.
I did skin it however, and the pelt is currently salted sitting in my shed. I think I did pretty well for my first time.
Good deed to save him the suffering
Felt badly? This is a thread on a gun to effectively kill them as a hunting tool.
No intention of eating it? (assuming because it was injured perhaps) afterall shooting them out of a tree and taking a fall could possibly break a leg in the process. No offense but I'm a bit confused now on why you want a good 22 squirrel rifle.
Eurodriver
01-18-15, 05:41
I intend to eat the squirrels when I hunt, but I wasn't in a position to take the guys carcass home at that moment which I felt badly about. Skinning is easy, just salt the hide and you're done. Much more logistics involved in keeping a critter from spoiling.
Thanks for the links, J-Dub. Ted sounds like he has his feces coagulated in those videos.
That $500 Benjamin does look like a worthwhile investment. I might have finally found a use for my old SCUBA tanks.
Late to the thread, but I just bought myself an AirForce Condor SS in .25 for Christmas. The rifle is amazing!
You can fill the tank to 3000 PSI with a hand pump. At the lowest power setting, it shoots a 27 gr .25 cal lead pellet at just below the speed of sound, and with an after market shroud that you can order without any tax stamps, the rifle is quiet.
I intend to eat the squirrels when I hunt, but I wasn't in a position to take the guys carcass home at that moment which I felt badly about. Skinning is easy, just salt the hide and you're done. Much more logistics involved in keeping a critter from spoiling.
Our squirrell season comes in Aug, still real warm outside. I understand about keeping it from spoiling.
Eurodriver
01-24-15, 07:47
That Quiet 22 ammo is QUIET. Oh man!
My buddy and I fired about 15 rounds last night in..uhhh...a non permissive environment and no one was the wiser. I'm telling you truthfully working the bolt at a normal speed is louder than the round going off!!
GUNSLINGER733
02-08-15, 21:56
CZ!! One bad ass little rifle
For lightness and beauty, I'd suggest a Browning T-Bolt if you can find one. Absolutely gorgeous. Mine shoots pretty well with quality ammo- doesn't love the bulk stuff much.
To bring this thread back, OP, I have priced me a Fv-sr and I like the mueller. What rings did you use and do you have any pics? Looks to be a solid setup and this year I want to focus on the small game. The spot I hunt deer is really sparse and in not setup for a club as at as finances go, but damnit if this place isn't covered in squirrels and rabbits!
Do they still make .410/.22 LR over under combos? That would be pretty sweet.
I think Savage is making one. It might be 20g. Still a great choice.
Yeah, always wanted one of those as a kid. Think I might pick it up if I see it at the gun store.
I think Savage is making one. It might be 20g. Still a great choice.
Unfortunately, the most recent incarnation of the Savage combo guns have fallen far from the tree in my opinion. Full disclosure, this is only my first impression from holding them in stores. Very low rent feeling, slip shod if you will.
I say this owning two different model 24's. One is .22lr/.410 with the selector switch on the receiver. The other is a .30-30/20g with selector on the hammer. Both are very high quality and worth every penny in my view. An appropriately chosen model 24 is a great all around gun.
My CZ also is a fine squirrel rifle.
I found the savage under their specialty series. It's pretty ugly. :( Kind of makes me want to cry.
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/Model42
I found the savage under their specialty series. It's pretty ugly. :( Kind of makes me want to cry.
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/Model42
I'd like that ugly SOB in 20g / WMR. The hammer on that gun is ji normous. Be a fun yote gun.
brickboy240
06-17-15, 13:20
My uncle has an older Mod. 24 in 30-30 over a 20ga.
He uses it for a pig gun. Loaded with a 30-30 150 grainer and a #3 buck 20ga round....he has stopped plenty of pigs with that ugly thing! LOL
I'd like that ugly SOB in 20g / WMR. The hammer on that gun is ji normous. Be a fun yote gun.
I'd do something like 28 Guage/.22 hornet, or 20 guage, .222. I think a gun that weird HAS to have a weird caliber combo.
I recently got a new squirrel, rodent rifle. A 10/22 lvt. Handles and shoots fantastically. Not really heavy, but most importantly the balance is perfect for me.
Dist. Expert 26
06-25-15, 12:24
I had a Savage Mk2 I used to kill squirrels by the dozen. The only complaint I had was the child size stock, but that's easily fixed.
I've had a good old Wal-Mart $100 Marlin for 17 years now (was my first gun) with a cheap Simmons scope. Lord only knows how many tree rats and rabbits I've killed with that thing. However... In my neck of the woods good luck finding 22 ammo to feed it. I think as brought up earlier in the thread air rifles are an excellent way to go for small game these days. Very accurate, cheap to shoot, gets the job done and ammo is everywhere.
I posted this link before after looking into the PCP game mentioned in this thread, pretty slick tools in my opinion.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OUEwxg32s6Y
Also the links for Ted's Holdover are awesome as well.
A few I've looked into after following this thread...
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/air-rifles/pcp-air-rifles
Rayrevolver
10-27-15, 12:50
Wife bought me this .22 pellet rifle for my birthday. It keeps the pellets subsonic but its not very quiet.
http://www.amazon.com/Optimus-Air-Rifle-22-Scope/dp/B004V957DG/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1445967472&sr=8-6&keywords=crosman+22+air+rifle
I took the Savage FVSR plunge and it has been good fun now that 22LR is on the shelf.
This was my last 10 rounds at 50 yards. 9x scope and Bucket o Bullets in the magazine. I would swear in a court of law that I shot 10 bulls, but this is how it turned out. It was frustrating but it was "cheap" ammo I suppose. I just bought a case of the Wolf Match and I will try this again.
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy117/rayrevolver/Public/1018151459_zpsbhgz5tyk.jpg
Cagemonkey
06-28-16, 20:31
Seems the CZ is a really nice rifle. Both in Accuracy and Quality. Does anyone own or tried the Ruger American 22's?
So its almost that time to hit the woods (I'll have to wait to head home to Tejas), anyone getting the squirrel slayers out and practicing?
I picked up some new ammo to try. SK match, SK subsonic hollow points, Eley Match, and Remington ELey. Wish I could find Wolf MT locally as my Savage MKII loves it.
Averageman
08-11-16, 12:28
Seems the CZ is a really nice rifle. Both in Accuracy and Quality. Does anyone own or tried the Ruger American 22's?
Nope, at this point with a tricked out Ruger 10-22 and a CZ, buying another one is a case study, but I will likely have all of what I need a .22 rifle for covered well.
My Grandfather used to keep a piece of horn or hoof in his pocket and tap on it and those dumb squirrels would just die to get a look at who was getting in to "their" Walnuts. He wouldn't accept anything but headshots so no meat was ruined.
In my home state of Mississippi, the squirrel hunter must remember that he's sharing the woods with rattlesnakes, cotton mouth moccasins, copperheads, and coral snakes. Hunters in other states have similar situations. So, guys be careful.
SeriousStudent
08-12-16, 21:55
Seems the CZ is a really nice rifle. Both in Accuracy and Quality. Does anyone own or tried the Ruger American 22's?
I have not, but a friend is very likely going to snag one. If he does, I will pass on his impressions of its performance.
Cagemonkey
08-15-16, 20:08
Thanks.
In my home state of Mississippi, the squirrel hunter must remember that he's sharing the woods with rattlesnakes, cotton mouth moccasins, copperheads, and coral snakes. Hunters in other states have similar situations. So, guys be careful.
Heck, we have all four of those right here in Austin, no need to go to Mississippi.
I have a CZ 452 American with 3X9 Leupold which is quite accurate.
I have the same set up in a 16" threaded version with a SilencerCo Sparrow can and I love it
Imma probably get some hate for this, but it was on sale last year, and I picked up the Wizard 22/12 combo that was around 120 before transfer. Couldn't pass it up. It was sighted great, and I use it as my car/survival/quick hunt gun. Leave birdshot, buckshot, slugs, and a box o' 22 with it for an all around "just-in-case-I-get-a-chance-to-go-hunting" or "be-prepared" gun.
Not my pictures, but I have gotten quite a few rabbits and squirrels last winter:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2014/04/19/2964167_01_rossi_wizard_22mag_12_gauge_640.jpg
http://www.rossiusa.com/images/whatsnew-trifecta.jpg
Than, less than a year later, I kicked myself in the rear for not just going with a Ruger 10/22 Kryptek takedown for the 249 I found them.
Cagemonkey
08-16-16, 18:20
In my home state of Mississippi, the squirrel hunter must remember that he's sharing the woods with rattlesnakes, cotton mouth moccasins, copperheads, and coral snakes. Hunters in other states have similar situations. So, guys be careful.Sounds like a good reason for a 10/22 with a high capacity magazine.
Rabbits better watch out now. I went and tested some ammo at 25yds. I was very pleased with Remington Eley target, the first two shots were in the same hole and the 10 shot group looked like this. (bipod and rear bag from prone)
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r166/jwpend/remingtoneleygroup1_zpsjz95dblg.jpg
With .22lr you really need to shoot a multitude of ammo to find what your gun shoots well, apparently this stuff and Wolf MT are my gun's favorite. I shot some SK target yesterday too. The groupings for that particular round were good, but not as impressive as the above. I could still cover the 10 shot group with a penny though (like the above group).
I even stretched it out to 100yds and was able to shoot a 1.5-.75 group with the Remington Eley target. It would've been better if I wasn't fighting the wind.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
08-29-16, 22:06
The most accurate gun I've ever shot in my life is my 1970's Marlin Model 60. It is minute-of-squirrels eye at 40 yds. It was my dad's back in the day, lived in a gun bag for 20 years rusting, I took it when he died, my druggy brother took it from me and again left it to rust in a bag, I took it back, never cleaned it, and it still shoots the wings off a fly.
It's quite a bit longer than my 10/22, doesn't always function reliably, but damn it shoots.
https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5511/31088496811_a55a8e2204_z.jpg
I told them to watch out. 75-80yd head shot. Eley sub sonic hollow points did work. Got this fella and some of his pals in a brine as I type.
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