Onyx Z
05-13-14, 16:59
I know there aren't too many 300BLK folks around here, but there is a thread on 300BlkTalk about the ill effects Lil-Gun has on the forcing cone of some magnum pistol revolvers. It may or may not have the same effect on rifles.
I'm not sure of the credibility of the source or the crossover effects, but here is a post from Bob Baker of Freedom Arms. I found this post on several forums, one being from Mr. Baker himself:
"We have seen numerous barrels damaged by using Lil'Gun. According to customers, some had as few as 30 rounds using Lil Gun through them, some had several hundred. Before we figured out what was happening one customer had sent his gun in for a new barrel. Then 600 rounds later it came back for another new barrel.
A couple years ago we did a test with a M83, .357 Mag. using Hornady 180 gr. bullets. We loaded 50 rds. of three different loads. One was a heavy H-110 load and the other two both used Lil Gun in different quantities.
We fired the H-110 loads first, then cut off the threaded end of the barrel. Rethreaded the barrel and shot one of the Lil Gun loads then rethreaded the barrel and shot the last Lil Gun load.
We found even the light load of Lil Gun caused the gun to get extremely hot. The heavy Lil Gun load had the gun so hot the only place we could touch the gun was on the grips and they were very hot.
Under magnification the surface appeared to have heated to a point of flowing using the Lil Gun loads and the heavy load was worse than the light load. This is probably due to Lil Gun having about 10% more nitro glycerin in it than H-110."
I have been using a Lil-Gun for about 100 rds for plinking only, but it looks like I will run H110 only until more evidence/insight is known on this problem. I know it's like comparing apples to oranges, but it's enough for me to question it.
Anyone happen to have any insight or experience with this?
Here is the thread on 300BlkTalk: http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=128&t=89276
I'm not sure of the credibility of the source or the crossover effects, but here is a post from Bob Baker of Freedom Arms. I found this post on several forums, one being from Mr. Baker himself:
"We have seen numerous barrels damaged by using Lil'Gun. According to customers, some had as few as 30 rounds using Lil Gun through them, some had several hundred. Before we figured out what was happening one customer had sent his gun in for a new barrel. Then 600 rounds later it came back for another new barrel.
A couple years ago we did a test with a M83, .357 Mag. using Hornady 180 gr. bullets. We loaded 50 rds. of three different loads. One was a heavy H-110 load and the other two both used Lil Gun in different quantities.
We fired the H-110 loads first, then cut off the threaded end of the barrel. Rethreaded the barrel and shot one of the Lil Gun loads then rethreaded the barrel and shot the last Lil Gun load.
We found even the light load of Lil Gun caused the gun to get extremely hot. The heavy Lil Gun load had the gun so hot the only place we could touch the gun was on the grips and they were very hot.
Under magnification the surface appeared to have heated to a point of flowing using the Lil Gun loads and the heavy load was worse than the light load. This is probably due to Lil Gun having about 10% more nitro glycerin in it than H-110."
I have been using a Lil-Gun for about 100 rds for plinking only, but it looks like I will run H110 only until more evidence/insight is known on this problem. I know it's like comparing apples to oranges, but it's enough for me to question it.
Anyone happen to have any insight or experience with this?
Here is the thread on 300BlkTalk: http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=128&t=89276