Benelli?

[Hawk777th]

Was looking to pick up an M4 but Im not going to buy a tactical shotgun with a 4rd tube. Ive seen a couple M1 M2 M3s that seem to have full tubes on them are they exempt from the 922r? Keep hearing preban aswell some have pistol grips and full tubes? Can someone please explane to me if its possible to get a benelli with a full tube on it. Im about ready to give up and just get an fn slp.

Thanks

[Alaskapopo]

Was looking to pick up an M4 but Im not going to buy a tactical shotgun with a 4rd tube. Ive seen a couple M1 M2 M3s that seem to have full tubes on them are they exempt from the 922r? Keep hearing preban aswell some have pistol grips and full tubes? Can someone please explane to me if its possible to get a benelli with a full tube on it. Im about ready to give up and just get an fn slp.

Thanks

This is a big headach unless the gun is a pre ban M1 you can't have more than 5 rounds. The M4 will actually hold 5 +1+1 for 7 rounds as it comes from the factory by the way. 5 in the tube one in the chamber and one on the shell carrier.

To get around 922 you either need enough us made parts (not enough yet) or you need to register it as a short barrelled shotgun and then section 922 does not apply.
Pat

[Robb Jensen]

Was looking to pick up an M4 but Im not going to buy a tactical shotgun with a 4rd tube. Ive seen a couple M1 M2 M3s that seem to have full tubes on them are they exempt from the 922r? Keep hearing preban aswell some have pistol grips and full tubes? Can someone please explane to me if its possible to get a benelli with a full tube on it. Im about ready to give up and just get an fn slp.

Thanks

Basically if the Benelli is a post July 1989 gun (can't remember the date) you can only have two of the 'evil/scary' features, one of those is default that being that it's semi-auto. If you have the rifle style stock (non-pistol grip) you can have a longer mag tube. If you have a pistol grip stock you cannot have the bigger mag tube.

[Alaskapopo]

Basically if the Benelli is a post July 1989 gun (can't remember the date) you can only have two of the 'evil/scary' features, one of those is default that being that it's semi-auto. If you have the rifle style stock (non-pistol grip) you can have a longer mag tube. If you have a pistol grip stock you cannot have the bigger mag tube.

Not to be a jerk but that is not correct. According to BATFE's latest statement on the issue any semi auto shotgun holding more than 5 rounds is considered non sporting regardless of rather it has a pistol grip or not. But don't despair they seem to change their official position on this issue almost daily. You are welcome to call or write them if you don't want to take my word for it however.
Pat

[Robb Jensen]

Not to be a jerk but that is not correct. According to BATFE's latest statement on the issue any semi auto shotgun holding more than 5 rounds is considered non sporting regardless of rather it has a pistol grip or not. But don't despair they seem to change their official position on this issue almost daily.
Pat

Interesting since the FN SLP Mark 1 shotgun is imported and comes with a 8 round capacity.....

You're right about BATFE though contradict themselves all the time.

[Alaskapopo]

Interesting since the FN SLP Mark 1 shotgun is imported and comes with a 8 round capacity.....

You're right about BATFE though contradict themselves all the time.

I don't know what to say about the FN SLP that is a good point. But remember the few M4's that slipped through with full magazine tubes and collapsable stocks before ATF even said something. Hopefully the court will rule in our favor this month on the DC case which may have huge impacts on all of these stupid gun control laws.

Pat

[Firecop203]

I don't see where the problem is. 922r does not make any reference to magazine exrtension tubes.

The assault weapon ban of 94 had some restrictions of tube capacity in it, but that law died in 2004.

[Hawk777th]

I don't see where the problem is. 922r does not make any reference to magazine exrtension tubes.

The assault weapon ban of 94 had some restrictions of tube capacity in it, but that law died in 2004.

922r comes into play because they are imported shotguns and the atf says all we can have is sporting type weapons imported.

[Alaskapopo]

Quoting the letter in part:
A shotgun with a telescoping stock or a magazine greater than 5 rounds is prohibited from importation into the United States under the provisions of section 925(d)(3) of Title 18, United states code (U.S.C.). Assembly of such a shotgun from imported parts is prohibited under 18, U.S.C. Section 922(r). The implementing regulations in Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 478, Section 478.39 (formerly Part 178, Section 178.39) prohibit assembly of such a shotgun that contains more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of the regulation. Please see the enclosed brochure for further information. Assembly of such a shotgun using 10 or less of the listed import parts is not prohibited. The shotgun is also subject to whatever State laws and local ordinances may apply.

Letter text can be seen here:http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207254&highlight=benelli+extension

[lanceriley]

get the rifle stock. you don't really need the pistol grip stock. it has a longer pull.

[Saginaw79]

The ATF is funny.
They cant even tell you what they mean half the time.

My friend just bought one w/ a PG, it has both the full and the short extensions w/ the longer on it.

Ill let him know to add the short one back onto it, hes not gonna like the 2 round loss though :(

[Saginaw79]

Something just occured to me...

There are 4 different sizes of shotgun shells Im aware of

2.75, 3" and 3.5" as well as those mini shells that are lime 1" or 1.5"

Which are the ones they test with? Depending on the one chosen it can drastically change the result

That rule/law is so ambiguous as to be laughable and they are inconsistent on their stance as their are many guns imported w/ more than 5 round capacity

Norinco knockoff 870 'tacticals', FN SLPs etc

Got dang im confused :confused:

[Alaskapopo]

get the rifle stock. you don't really need the pistol grip stock. it has a longer pull.

I like the pistol grip personally.
pat

[lanceriley]

just my opinion... us small people with short arms can't quite reach :p