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NP3 on internals and Poly T2 in gunmetal on the slide/slide lever. $35 to overnight there, $250 for coating and overnight shipping back. Sent the middle of April and received it back today.
It appears they didn't coat the rails on the frame, even though I have seen them do this on a Glock. I also didn't realize the mag release button was going to be coated, I thought it was plastic. If I had known then I would have asked for the button done in gunmetal too. I still have my 10-8 rear sight to install, but I may switch to Trijicon HDs instead. I'm also on the fence about having it stippled. No range time yet, I might get out there on Saturday or Sunday.
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/14399659535_9a70961d63_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nWs26Z)PPQ Robar 1 (https://flic.kr/p/nWs26Z) by KMKPhotographySA (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
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MiamiCracker
06-11-14, 20:27
What guide rod are you using?
What guide rod are you using?
the DPM
the DPM
Could you compare recoil characteristics while shooting between the PPQ with the stock guide rod/spring and the DPM? Also if you experience any reliability issues with the DPM while shooting?
Mighty slick setup!
(......see what I did there?)
Could you compare recoil characteristics while shooting between the PPQ with the stock guide rod/spring and the DPM? Also if you experience any reliability issues with the DPM while shooting?
I would like to know this info as well.
ColdDeadHands
06-12-14, 19:28
Nice looking PPQ!
I'm curious to know how the trigger feels with the internals coated in NP3.
Could you compare recoil characteristics while shooting between the PPQ with the stock guide rod/spring and the DPM? Also if you experience any reliability issues with the DPM while shooting?
I'd like to know this as well. The guide rod assembly in my 40S&W PPQ is rubbing the inside of the plastic frame creating a white residue. This might be related to feed problems and the slide hesitating when going in to battery that I've been experiencing. Another option would be good.
I haven't been to the range with the DPM guide rod in yet. I was hoping I would have time this weekend but I never made it. After I shoot and clean the pistol next weekend I should have a range report up of both the DPM and the coating. And I haven't seen nor experienced any stock guide rod and spring issues.
I will say that the trigger take-up seems smoother and the break/reset seems even crisper than I recall.
I fired the pistol for the first time Sunday with both the coating and the DPM recoil system. Unfortunately, the DPM recoil assembly resulted in increased muzzle flip, it took noticeably longer to get the sights back on target. As stated in another thread, I received 2 different silver springs (instead of 1 silver and 1 gold) but was told by DPM via email that this was normal. It's possible that DPM sent the wrong springs and the person responding via the customer service e-mail was mistaken.
More worryingly, I had a failure to lock the slide back after the first mag. Then halfway through the second mag, the weapon experienced what I thought was a failure to fire. I realized very quickly that this was because the weapon failed to fully return to battery after firing the previous round. With 2 major malfunctions in under 30 rounds I promptly returned the original spring and went through the last mag with no issue. I used Federal 115gr range ammo, the white box.
The good news is that cleaning the PPQ is incredibly easy with the coating. You can pour Hoppe's #9 on a cotton pad and wipe the weapon down in about a minute. I will be back next week to test my usual 115gr Blazer Brass on the original recoil assembly.
MiamiCracker
06-24-14, 09:37
Damn that sucks. Well it is said the PPQ is the best striker fired handgun out of the box (we will see about the HK VP9) Probably best to keep the PPQ stock.
I fired the pistol for the first time Sunday with both the coating and the DPM recoil system. Unfortunately, the DPM recoil assembly resulted in increased muzzle flip, it took noticeably longer to get the sights back on target. As stated in another thread, I received 2 different silver springs (instead of 1 silver and 1 gold) but was told by DPM via email that this was normal. It's possible that DPM sent the wrong springs and the person responding via the customer service e-mail was mistaken.
More worryingly, I had a failure to lock the slide back after the first mag. Then halfway through the second mag, the weapon experienced what I thought was a failure to fire. I realized very quickly that this was because the weapon failed to fully return to battery after firing the previous round. With 2 major malfunctions in under 30 rounds[B] I promptly returned the original spring and went through the last mag with no issue.I used Federal 115gr range ammo, the white box.
The good news is that cleaning the PPQ is incredibly easy with the coating. You can pour Hoppe's #9 on a cotton pad and wipe the weapon down in about a minute. I will be back next week to test my usual 115gr Blazer Brass on the original recoil assembly.
I'm not against after market stuff where it's warranted and beneficial etc, but what's wrong with the original spring assembly of the PPQ that would make you/others replace it as a matter of course before working with this highly regarded handgun?
I'm not against after market stuff where it's warranted and beneficial etc, but what's wrong with the original spring assembly of the PPQ that would make you/others replace it as a matter of course before working with this highly regarded handgun?
I shot the PPQ many times before I put the DPM in it. I'm certainly not the only one to notice it has a relatively large amount of 'muzzle flip,' which is why I figured the DPM was worth a shot. If it helped reduce my split times that'd be great. Also, the factory recoil rod is plastic which I'm not a huge fan of. I know it will function just fine, but I'd prefer a metal one. So I tried it, it didn't work.
It wasn't as if I bought the gun and the DPM before I even shot it.
I shot the PPQ many times before I put the DPM in it. I'm certainly not the only one to notice it has a relatively large amount of 'muzzle flip,' which is why I figured the DPM was worth a shot. If it helped reduce my split times that'd be great. Also, the factory recoil rod is plastic which I'm not a huge fan of. I know it will function just fine, but I'd prefer a metal one. So I tried it, it didn't work.
It wasn't as if I bought the gun and the DPM before I even shot it.
Rgr. not a fan of plastic guide rods (even though they seem to function fine) either and would replace with metal myself given the option. Maybe give it another try next time at range and see if it smooths out with some rnds through it, if it's been a reliable set up for others.
I'm no expert, but ones I respect are vehemently against any of these "recoil reducing" guide rod systems like the DPM and the others out there.
YMMV.
I shot the PPQ many times before I put the DPM in it. I'm certainly not the only one to notice it has a relatively large amount of 'muzzle flip,' which is why I figured the DPM was worth a shot. If it helped reduce my split times that'd be great. Also, the factory recoil rod is plastic which I'm not a huge fan of. I know it will function just fine, but I'd prefer a metal one. So I tried it, it didn't work.
It wasn't as if I bought the gun and the DPM before I even shot it.
Higher slide velocity. Returns quicker imho. May be perceived as "more flip" but that is subjective I guess.
The new coating on the internals may require a few "break-in" rounds before you have perfect or near perfect functioning.
Higher slide velocity. Returns quicker imho. May be perceived as "more flip" but that is subjective I guess.
That's my impression as well. Either way I like the NP3 internals. Might make an already smooth operating gun even smoother.
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