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ttf909
06-24-14, 12:39
2 occasions had a single point sling come loose and put a rifle on the ground. 2 different slings both with q.d. spring loaded snaps. anyone else have this happen ?

solution ? the first time the rifle was not damaged as my leg took the front post before hitting the ground, the second time not near as lucky.

markm
06-24-14, 12:41
I typically don't trust that QD crap. But I have one QD attachment that I got from BCM which seems to be better than the junk I've seen guys struggle with over the years.

ALL the rest of my slings are secured with Para Cord. What kind of QD socket and loop were you running?

ttf909
06-24-14, 13:07
the first was a cheap midway like the web page picture and the second is the crosstac. the socket was not the failure.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2hf26hd.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/2hf26hd.jpg

markm
06-24-14, 13:12
Ah... Ok. I thought you meant those QD socket systems. Never tried the system you have.

lightestfighter
06-24-14, 13:14
Probably something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyARaE0p_2o

bruin
06-24-14, 13:16
HK snap hooks are known to be failure prone. Switch to MASH hooks or quality QD hardware and your problem will go away. Don't buy cheap stuff.

ttf909
06-24-14, 13:23
yep thats the problem .

markm
06-24-14, 13:29
I almost went to MASH hooks at one point. I think a buddy had a bunch in his misc box. Never did try them though..

Moonlight Again
06-24-14, 13:34
snip
ALL the rest of my slings are secured with Para Cord. snip

Hard to beat paracord.

markm
06-24-14, 13:53
I agree. Guys like to spend money on hardware though.

Know1
06-24-14, 14:01
Paracord is good, but you loose the quick-detach feature--unless there is some way that I haven't thought of. Markm, do you leave the sling on the rifle permanently?

ttf909
06-24-14, 14:02
just took the dremel to the hk clips .

Moonlight Again
06-24-14, 14:10
I agree. Guys like to spend money on hardware though.

If toilet paper was an AR accessory, you couldn't wipe your ass for less than $50.

Moonlight Again
06-24-14, 14:19
Paracord is good, but you loose the quick-detach feature--unless there is some way that I haven't thought of. Markm, do you leave the sling on the rifle permanently?

The great thing about paracord is, it's easy to replace. I do pretty much leave my sling on permanently, but if I need it off, whick, snip, slash! And you can make another paracord loop in about a minute (if you are being careful to burn the ends).

Tript2009
06-28-14, 18:18
The great thing about paracord is, it's easy to replace. I do pretty much leave my sling on permanently, but if I need it off, whick, snip, slash! And you can make another paracord loop in about a minute (if you are being careful to burn the ends).

I bought a pair of clips from a hardware store, and run paracord to each end of the clips, and it gives me the QD option with the reliability of paracord...

GH41
06-29-14, 08:07
Just curious... Why do you need a sling to be QD? I understand the need to occasionally remove it but does it really matter if it takes 3 seconds or 3 minutes to remove?

sw1911
06-29-14, 08:41
MS3 w/ the clips might better serve you

omega21
06-29-14, 21:50
HK snap hooks are known to be failure prone.

Really? Seems strange since this system has been around for like 40 years.

ttf909
06-29-14, 21:59
twice the hk clips have put my rifle on the ground so i would say yeah they are prone to failure , unless i am using them wrong .

lunchbox
06-29-14, 22:25
If you like para cord on your slings, give WOTG sling a look. From site ------The Proctor Sling comes with everything needed to attach it to a wide variety of guns. The Proctor Sling attaches to the rifle using the supplied 550 cord loops. The Proctor Sling can also be attached using any sling loop or Q.D. mount, however it is recommended to use the supplied 550 cord loops as they allow the sling to be mounted with minimal bulk and excess weight. The front 550 cord attaching loop cinches around the rifle forearm with no bulk or pivot points added to rifle. This is critical when shooting the rifle from the side gun position from behind cover that you may be using for stability. The Proctor Sling is fully adjustable and excess webbing stores on itself, so there is no need to tape up excess webbing. The Proctor Sling has proven to be effective, durable and strong. Available in Black, Marpat Brown and Multi-Cam. http://www.wayofthegun.us/store/ vid on site. Franks a hell of an instructor, would also recommend one of his classes.

Moonlight Again
06-29-14, 22:39
If you like para cord on your slings, give WOTG sling a look. snip

Damn that sure does look like a better way to attach. I've noticed, a time or two recently, the "paracord around the front of the tube" attachment, and now I know where it comes from. That's pretty slick.

Proctor Sling Instruction. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6agYaKX4XA)

omega21
06-29-14, 23:39
Another 550-driven option is some of the Israeli slings here:
http://www.zahal.org/groups/israeli-idf-rifle-slings-military-sling
like this one
http://www.zahal.org/products/sling-adaptar?path_parent=153417

lunchbox
06-29-14, 23:46
Damn that sure does look like a better way to attach. I've noticed, a time or two recently, the "paracord around the front of the tube" attachment, and now I know where it comes from. That's pretty slick.

Proctor Sling Instruction. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6agYaKX4XA)You attach anywhere you can loop and cinch, on any rifle/shotgun platform (this is nice). Frank recommends front of tube/back of stock, but works just as well- end plate to back of tube, or any other way. Really is a very versatile sling. I've got one of the 1st gen. (and one of his first ones in multi-cam), when he first came out with them he was giving them away at his classes.