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cinco
07-01-14, 13:02
Oh jeeze now the UN is now formally embedded with the FSA... Best way I can sum this up is to reference this quote from Ol' Remus ( http://www.woodpilereport.com/html/index-376.htm ):

"Urban water service is a need not a right, basic, human or otherwise. Rights don't create duties for others. No one has a right to compel others to build and maintain a water system for them, at all, much less for free."



The article and some snippets to irritate you so close to "Independence Day" and all...

UN to Intervene in Detroit Water Crisis
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/u-n-to-intervene-in-detroit-water-shutoffs/

"WND has learned that after issuing a statement last week condemning Detroit’s decision to send water shut-off notices to tens of thousands of customers behind in their payments, the U.N now plans to conduct confidential policy discussions with the Obama administration to be followed by a formal public report to the U.N. Human Rights Council.

On Monday, the U.N. Human Rights Council’s office in Geneva confirmed to WND that the U.N. plans to intervene directly in the Detroit water crisis, determined to apply international law to judge the U.S. in violation of human rights to safe water."



“What we see is a violation of the human right to water,” Meera Karunananthan, an international campaigner with the Blue Planet Project, explained to Al Jazeera America on the submission of the report to the U.N.

Eurodriver
07-01-14, 13:42
You would be quite surprised what is in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights

The UN has actually made it "international law", and it's baffling how anyone could take it seriously.

Look closely, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Haiti, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, and Egypt have voted in favor of it.

Mauser KAR98K
07-01-14, 13:44
Does 't mean squat if we didn't sign the treaty.

Airhasz
07-01-14, 13:44
You can't cut water off in Detroit, it will be '67 riots all over again.

montanadave
07-01-14, 13:47
And, in the real world, how does this have any actual impact on the situation?

Big A
07-01-14, 14:50
Maybe they can help Las Vegas too...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-30/las-vegas-screwed-water-situation-bad-you-can-imagine

How soon before we are at war for water instead of oil?

cinco
07-01-14, 14:57
And, in the real world, how does this have any actual impact on the situation?

For a truly sovereign nation - anything outsiders say means squat.

Just another obvious attempt for the UN to circumvent our Constitution in lieu of "World (read Socialist) needs". UN Small Arms Treaty comes to mind.

How long until the UN decides to issue another declaration of "intervention" in the "Central American Refugee Crisis" in the border lands?

Nothing to see here (cough... Agenda 21?). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

cinco
07-01-14, 15:02
Maybe they can help Las Vegas too...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-30/las-vegas-screwed-water-situation-bad-you-can-imagine

How soon before we are at war for water instead of oil?

Your question is accurate and IS only a matter of time. Thanks for the link. I wasn't aware LV was in that bad of a situation.

I remember a documentary covering your exact question. I think was called "Water Wars" or such.

jpmuscle
07-01-14, 15:56
Does 't mean squat if we didn't sign the treaty.
And even if we did, so what? Because 'merica. Lol

skijunkie55
07-01-14, 15:58
Detroit has a water crisis?? News to me... I figured most of those houses with the water being cut-off were abandoned anyway.

Moose-Knuckle
07-01-14, 16:08
How soon before we are at war for water instead of oil?

According to several Beltway think tanks comprised of retired Joint Chiefs . . . we'll all be going to war over potable water within the next 10 - 20 years. After that food . . .

The banking cabal elites call fresh water "blue gold" and they have been busy buying up land that sits a top of the world's aquifers.







As for the Detroit bovine feces, it is all in step with UN Agenda 21.

SeriousStudent
07-01-14, 21:03
Maybe they can help Las Vegas too...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-30/las-vegas-screwed-water-situation-bad-you-can-imagine

How soon before we are at war for water instead of oil?

Wichita Falls, Texas, has received permission from the state to begin recycling waste-water through their municipal water system. This is effective for the next 6 months.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20140627-drought-stricken-wichita-falls-gets-state-s-ok-to-reuse-wastewater.ece

They are projected to run out of water in 2016, if the drought does not break in Texas.

Water is a very big deal here in this state.

High Tower
07-01-14, 21:20
Detroit doesn't have a water crises, they have an entitlement crises. They have plenty of water as well as plenty of degenerates who think they shouldn't have to pay for anything.

The southwest has a water crises.

SomeOtherGuy
07-01-14, 21:26
You can't cut water off in Detroit, it will be '67 riots all over again.

No. Detroit has nowhere near enough people for anything like that. You would have to bus people in from elsewhere to re-create those riots. Though I suppose Dear Leader may already have that arranged?

This is a fairly cut and dried situation of people not paying their utility bills and getting shut off. The UN stuff is noise. I'm going to re-write that Charter of Human Wants to include the right to filet mignon, French wine, and a personal chef.

NC_DAVE
07-01-14, 21:34
Between 2030-2040 would be my guess if not sooner. So enjoy the golf courses now.

glocktogo
07-01-14, 22:53
By "intervene", I assume the UN will be paying everyone's water bill for them? :rolleyes:

cinco
07-02-14, 07:48
Detroit doesn't have a water crises, they have an entitlement crises. They have plenty of water as well as plenty of degenerates who think they shouldn't have to pay for anything.

The southwest has a water crises.

Nailed it!

Big A
07-02-14, 11:48
Detroit doesn't have a water crises, they have an entitlement crises. They have plenty of water as well as plenty of degenerates who think they shouldn't have to pay for anything.

The southwest has a water crises.


Nailed it!

Indeed.

Los Angeles wouldn't be the thriving metropolis it is if they had not diverted water from somewhere else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Water_Wars

TAZ
07-02-14, 12:52
Detroit riots. Are there still enough people living in Detroit to riot??

Although if they were to riot and burn, with the lack of Firefighters, and possibly water they might finally clean up that shithole of a city.

As for the UN doing something about people's water. They won't be paying anyone's bills, but rather trying to figure out how to make you and I do it. They will of course insure that the payments make it to the right people (minus a small corruption fee) and that those poor downtrodden people working to put their loves back together and head off to da kollege get their water (maybe, unless the UN guy can make more by selling it on the black market).

High visibility baby blue and white will blend in right nicely in ole Detroit. Wonder how long before the cars are stripped and the workers shot to shit for wondering into crip or bloods or other deuche bag territory.

WRT the whole water shortage thing. In surprised that more states or even sea side communities aren't looking into desalination and water sales.

Maybe we could spend a trillion dollars on an Obama water pipeline and take the flood waters from states like MN, ND and transport it south.... Just kidding.

markm
07-02-14, 13:15
I see that this is an early example of the Warlord Hussein's vision for America. Kind of like Somalia.....

NWPilgrim
07-02-14, 14:40
Deploy the Peace Corps! They can install a few non-regulated shallow wells and buckets of straw for filtering. Bring in the UN to distribute 10,000 bottles of water for 300,000 people (Somalia food riots anyone?). Then they will send in WHO to monitor diseases.

In the end we will be tapped for billions of dollars to have a bunch of NGO people running around filming, interviewing, and recording data. And Detroit will still be third world with nary a drop more water than before.

Question: Has the UN ever solved any problem any where without making it worse and drag on for decades longer at huge cost?

NWPilgrim
07-02-14, 14:41
Deploy the Peace Corps! They can install a few non-regulated shallow wells and buckets of straw for filtering. Bring in the UN to distribute 10,000 bottles of water for 300,000 people (Somalia food riots anyone?). Then they will send in WHO to monitor diseases.

In the end we will be tapped for billions of dollars to have a bunch of NGO people running around filming, interviewing, and recording data. And Detroit will still be third world with nary a drop more water than before.

Question: Has the UN ever solved any problem any where without making it worse and drag on for decades longer at huge cost?

Crow Hunter
07-02-14, 18:21
Wichita Falls, Texas, has received permission from the state to begin recycling waste-water through their municipal water system. This is effective for the next 6 months.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20140627-drought-stricken-wichita-falls-gets-state-s-ok-to-reuse-wastewater.ece

They are projected to run out of water in 2016, if the drought does not break in Texas.

Water is a very big deal here in this state.

I wish you guys could have some of our water. (West TN)

Holy crap it is like we are living in Vietnam in Monsoon season. It has rained more days than not through the whole month of June. Heck it was only supposed to be a 20% chance of rain today and it came a flood, just as I was leaving work to go to the bank....:rolleyes:

Thursday last week I was standing in my driveway in water 2 inches above my ankles for a solid hour trying to keep the front yard drain clean so I could get the water out of the garage.

We usually have a wet spring but much more moderate June with very little rain in July and August. We are already 2 for 2 in July...

My brother lives in Dallas now and he says it is downright "crispy" down there.

jpmuscle
07-03-14, 01:46
Whenever I envision the eventual demise of Detroit I always think of the slums from the movie District 9 for some reason.

SteveS
07-03-14, 23:14
If you have noticed over the years we have been on the path to being on par with other a third world nations {to fit into the new world order} Notice the flood of illegal aliens . All a part to bring this country down ,speed up the crash of the dollar and bring diseases to kill off a portion of the citizens of the U.S. The Bushes, Clintons and Obamas have set the ball rolling to end this country.

Moose-Knuckle
07-04-14, 02:28
If you have noticed over the years we have been on the path to being on par with other a third world nations {to fit into the new world order} Notice the flood of illegal aliens . All a part to bring this country down ,speed up the crash of the dollar and bring diseases to kill off a portion of the citizens of the U.S. The Bushes, Clintons and Obamas have set the ball rolling to end this country.

I would say this is spot on. "Death by a thousand cuts" and all that. No way we would ever be taken by force; time + the never ending assault on our language, borders, and culture has had devastating results for the future of our Republic. For globalism to work (in the minds of those who are pushing us towards that) they know that they can never bring everyone else up to our level so they are subjugating us down to everyone else's.

Big A
07-04-14, 07:41
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/its-either-do-it-or-you-die-california-regulators-clamp-down-water-waste

SeriousStudent
07-04-14, 09:09
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/its-either-do-it-or-you-die-california-regulators-clamp-down-water-waste

The city I live in has grown from 6,000 people to over 70,000 in the last 15 years. We've also cut our water consumption by household almost 40 percent during that time period.

They are pretty draconian about water restrictions. I can water my lawn once every two weeks. If we do not get more rain this summer, they will eliminate all landscape watering, and only allow you to hand-water your trees. Violators face a $2,000 fine.

The flip side is that the city will reimburse you for water-savings systems. If you install a rain-water collection system, they will reimburse you. Same goes for retro-fitting a rain sensor or freeze sensor on your lawn sprinkler system. And both of those are required by code now for new installations. They also will pay you for the difference on washing machines and dishwashers. That's where the fine money goes - into the conservation programs.

Big A
07-04-14, 09:27
The city I live in has grown from 6,000 people to over 70,000 in the last 15 years. We've also cut our water consumption by household almost 40 percent during that time period.

They are pretty draconian about water restrictions. I can water my lawn once every two weeks. If we do not get more rain this summer, they will eliminate all landscape watering, and only allow you to hand-water your trees. Violators face a $2,000 fine.

The flip side is that the city will reimburse you for water-savings systems. If you install a rain-water collection system, they will reimburse you. Same goes for retro-fitting a rain sensor or freeze sensor on your lawn sprinkler system. And both of those are required by code now for new installations. They also will pay you for the difference on washing machines and dishwashers. That's where the fine money goes - into the conservation programs.

I'm not a hippy dippy environmentalist but when it comes to conservation things like that I am all for it. We humans sure waste a lot of water on what I view as decorations (Fountains, lawns, etc.)

SteveS
07-05-14, 00:09
I'm not a hippy dippy environmentalist but when it comes to conservation things like that I am all for it. We humans sure waste a lot of water on what I view as decorations (Fountains, lawns, etc.)
Last year some judge ruled to drain the reservoirs in Northern Calif to... Save some non native smelt living in the delta. Bankrupt the land owners and sell it to the Chinese .

SteveS
07-05-14, 00:09
I see that this is an early example of the Warlord Hussein's vision for America. Kind of like Somalia.....

Kenya?

TriviaMonster
07-05-14, 00:22
Recycling waste water is not a bad idea. I use a reverse osmosis machine and a very expensive set of filters and pumps in my job. I can take mud and give you water that is about 99.5%(that's a literal figure) cleaner than standard city drinking water. Of course that is what $75k gets you, to the tune of 8k gallons per day.

I be happy to turn turds into wine for the FSA in Detroit

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Big A
07-15-14, 10:27
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/15/california-expected-to-set-mandatory-water-curbs-for-first-time/

TAZ
07-15-14, 11:38
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/15/california-expected-to-set-mandatory-water-curbs-for-first-time/

Give it a few months and you're going to see huge increases in water rates. Not because the people are consuming it and the treatment facility has to run more shifts or whatever, but because the utilities company won't be making the same cash and we can't have that. We call it the conservation tax. Use water pay $X. Conserve water pay $X. Gotta love that wonderful crony capitalism public private partnership crap.

Abraham
07-15-14, 11:51
SeriousStudent,

"If you install a rain-water collection system, they will reimburse you."

Would you have a ball park idea on the cost for such a thing?

jpmuscle
07-15-14, 12:01
SeriousStudent,

"If you install a rain-water collection system, they will reimburse you."

Would you have a ball park idea on the cost for such a thing?
Further, what constitutes such a system? Are we talking a 55 gallon drum parked under a downspout or something more elaborate?

Waylander
07-15-14, 13:36
Further, what constitutes such a system? Are we talking a 55 gallon drum parked under a downspout or something more elaborate?

Pretty much this is what I've seen in a nutshell. You just have to be careful about overflow.
It's a good idea to place your barrels so overflow will go away from your home and not let water seep into your foundation. If you can't do that, there are ways to get around it like digging a small area not very deep, filling it with gravel and placing your barrels on top of that. You're going to have to find a level spot or dig one anyway for the barrels to sit so I would do that regardless.

skijunkie55
07-15-14, 14:13
SeriousStudent,

"If you install a rain-water collection system, they will reimburse you."

Would you have a ball park idea on the cost for such a thing?

http://www.rainwaterpillow.com/index.php/how-it-works/product-cost
This is a relatively low-cost system you can buy and install in an existing home (crawl space?)

Otherwise, you're looking at an in ground / above ground cistern, pumps , filtration system, etc. Prices are all over the board on custom systems.
Or if you're only using it for irrigation / car washing - a hundred buckets gets you the 55 gallon drum(s), some PVC, a screw in faucet, etc.

Caduceus
07-15-14, 18:23
Detroit riots. Are there still enough people living in Detroit to riot??

Although if they were to riot and burn, with the lack of Firefighters, and possibly water they might finally clean up that shithole of a city.



WRT the whole water shortage thing. In surprised that more states or even sea side communities aren't looking into desalination and water sales.

Maybe we could spend a trillion dollars on an Obama water pipeline and take the flood waters from states like MN, ND and transport it south.... Just kidding.

Kind of late to that party.

http://ecowatch.com/pubs/febmar08/great_lakes_drain.htm

http://www.wbez.org/frontandcenter/2011-06-21/great-lakes-face-increasing-pressure-water-world-own-backyard-88159

SeriousStudent
07-16-14, 00:40
I'll see if I can dig up some links for you gents, and post them. I was in IG's AR armorer class all day, and have to get up early in the ayem to go back.

Solid class, by the way. Learning has occurred.

Big A
07-17-14, 07:42
More good news for you guys out in the Southwest...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-16/20-signs-terrible-drought-western-us-starting-become-catastrophic

No.6
07-21-14, 21:22
And then there's this:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/07/21/naacp-detroit-water-service-shutoffs-are-racially-motivated/

Airhasz
07-21-14, 21:44
Why can't stupid people learn to pay their water bill before buying cigs, booze, crack, weed and other necessities?
The Detroit river is full of water the last time I looked, get hose and a pump....do something for yourselves, damn.

Moose-Knuckle
07-22-14, 15:42
And then there's this:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/07/21/naacp-detroit-water-service-shutoffs-are-racially-motivated/

:lol:

skijunkie55
07-22-14, 15:50
Why can't stupid people learn to pay their water bill before buying cigs, booze, crack, weed and other necessities?
The Detroit river is full of water the last time I looked, get hose and a pump....do something for yourselves, damn.

"But we was promised free stuff! And we demand reparations for our great great grandmother's uncle's second cousin who worked on a tobacco farm in south carolina!"

If I hear "entitlement" or "human rights" as an excuse for absolute laziness one more time... :angry:

TriviaMonster
07-22-14, 16:47
"But we was promised free stuff! And we demand reparations for our great great grandmother's uncle's second cousin who worked on a tobacco farm in south carolina!"

If I hear "entitlement" or "human rights" as an excuse for absolute laziness one more time... :angry:

If you don't hear it one more time you should be even more worried. Eventually they won't even bother with excuses.

Big A
08-01-14, 17:08
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-01/drought-goes-bad-catastrophic

To our members out in the SW, how bad is the drought situation really?

I am truly interested in this topic and would like to know how it is effecting you and what your local governments are doing about it please.

TAZ
08-01-14, 17:25
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-01/drought-goes-bad-catastrophic

To our members out in the SW, how bad is the drought situation really?

I am truly interested in this topic and would like to know how it is effecting you and what your local governments are doing about it please.

In central TX. No significant rain is a long time. Have had showers and such, but not enough to actually refil the aquifer and or lakes. Lake Travis is 53' below full. In July 2007 it was 9' above what's considered full.

We have water restrictions in most cities. Can only water once a day... That pretty much everyone ignores AFAIK. Businesses still run their sprinklers and flood the streets to keep grass green... To top it off they are raising water rates cause the decrease in usage is causing a financial loss for the utilities. We have deemed it the drought tax.

It's not good is an understatement.

Moose-Knuckle
08-01-14, 19:07
In my AO (N Central) we can only water once every two weeks, thankfully we have had some showers and cool temps this week. I have never seen it this cool in August before, I swear its October when I step outside. But yeah, lakes are still way low.

TAZ
08-01-14, 23:36
just noticed my water schedule is whacked. We are at once a week, not once a day.

Big A
08-12-14, 20:09
Las Vegas Will Go Dry If Water Levels Drop 7% Further - Lake Mead Hits Record Lows:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-12/las-vegas-will-go-dry-if-water-levels-drop-7-further-lake-mead-hits-record-lows

Kain
08-12-14, 20:36
Las Vegas Will Go Dry If Water Levels Drop 7% Further - Lake Mead Hits Record Lows:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-12/las-vegas-will-go-dry-if-water-levels-drop-7-further-lake-mead-hits-record-lows

Impossible!! They have enough liquor to...... Oh, sorry, my bad.

Alpha Sierra
08-12-14, 20:53
And then there's this:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/07/21/naacp-detroit-water-service-shutoffs-are-racially-motivated/

When is the next civil war? Cause I can't wait.

Big A
08-14-14, 07:11
Lawmakers in drought-hit California finally agree on water plan:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/us-usa-california-drought-idUSKBN0GE02H20140814

skijunkie55
08-19-14, 14:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVVT03LIX0w

Moose-Knuckle
08-19-14, 15:29
Many people don't know the story behind the statue that is in the background there.

From:

Escape from Detroit:The Collapse of America's Black Metropolis


The top image on the book cover is of “The Spirit of Detroit,” a statue that was dedicated in 1958. In its left hand, the large figure holds a bronze sphere emanating rays to symbolize God; in the right hand, is a family group that symbolizes all human relationships.

Detroit was roughly 70 percent white when this statue was dedicated. It rests outside the city’s municipal center, which has subsequently been renamed for the first Black mayor of Detroit, Coleman Young.

The bottom picture is of the Joe Louis Statue, a giant Black fist that has come to symbolize “Black power” in a city that is 89 percent Black in 2012.

In 1912, Detroit was less than 2 percent Black. Escape from Detroit: The Collapse of America’s Black Metropolis is the story of what actually happened in a city that was once dubbed “The Arsenal of Democracy.”

Hard to believe that in the 1920s, Detroit had the tallest buildings in America and a thriving arts and culture industry. Of course, the city was more than 90 percent white. The cosmopolitan attitude cultivated in Detroit, with architects building towers that jettisoned into the sky at heights previously unseen in the entire world, earned the city the title of “The Paris of the West.” Now, those largely empty buildings stand as a monument to ‘what could have been’ in a city that wasn’t ravaged by unions, liberalism, or a natural disaster.

It was neglected by its majority population that took over the city in the wake of the 1967 riots.

“The Mogadishu of the West” offers a warning to other American cities. In Black and white, this is the story of Detroit’s collapse.

Paul Kersey takes you on a journey into the real reason Detroit collapsed.

In 1950, Detroit was known to the World as the “Paris of the West.” Boasting a thriving economy and a population of more than 2 million people (80 percent being white), the sky seemed the only limit for this city on the move.

In 1967, the “Arsenal of Democracy” would be home to the worst riot in American history as the Black population of Detroit – roughly 30 percent of the population at the time– would explode in an orgy of violence that was only stopped when the Army marched into town to restore order.

The white population of the city would flee for the suburbs, leaving the remaining Black population in political control of the city’s destiny.

In 2012, order still hasn’t been restored.

Now, a city of roughly 770,000 inhabitants (89 percent Black) has collapsed in a sea of financial mismanagement, crime, drugs, broken schools, eroding infrastructure, and hopelessness.

Detroit is the story of America’s future. Escape from Detroit: The Collapse of America’s Black Metropolis is the first of it’s kind: a book that places the blame for the complete collapse of the city on its majority population.

It serves as a clarion call – a warning – to other American cities.

http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Detroit-Collapse-Americas-Metropolis/dp/1468138537/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1408479992&sr=8-5&keywords=white+girl+bleed+a+lot

Big A
10-22-14, 06:56
Latest on this stupidity:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/21/detroit-disappointed-in-uns-non-fact-finding-visits-about-water-shut-offs/?intcmp=latestnews

Eurodriver
10-22-14, 07:49
Section 8 will soon include utilities. Watch.

TriviaMonster
10-22-14, 15:53
What do we want? Water! When do we want it? Free!

Make the water service as cheap as possible. No additives, no testing, no workers maintaining the lines and pumps. No customer service lines. Hook up a small, but free, water pump in the lake and hope for the best. Unless these free water morons want to help maintain that stuff by working on it and paying to keep it up. But that's just pure nonsense.

NC_DAVE
10-22-14, 16:40
Section 8 will soon include utilities. Watch.

Public housing already does, free water and electric. However rent varies from $0, $50,$500. I would no way in hell live there for $500 however the free extras would be tempting.

VLODPG
10-23-14, 07:44
Many people don't know the story behind the statue that is in the background there.

From:

Escape from Detroit:The Collapse of America's Black Metropolis



http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Detroit-Collapse-Americas-Metropolis/dp/1468138537/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1408479992&sr=8-5&keywords=white+girl+bleed+a+lot


Not surprised here!

cinco
10-23-14, 11:54
Yesterday on Fox News, Stuart Varney nailed it when he stated "this is all about embarassment. This is deliberate attempt to embarrass the United States. To hold up America and say 'look at those people denying water to minorities. They are human rights violators.''

I want to throttle the socialist chick at the beginning whining and complaining...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRIg18ifX2Q

brickboy240
10-23-14, 15:29
Excuse me but water is NOT a basic right! Where do they get this crap?

Today in Detroit it is water....tomorrow it will be food...then cable tv then internet and so on. When will this nonsense stop?

All of the people protesting and whining about paying a water bill have I-phones and nice sneakers. Hello! You ticks and leeches CAN swing a water bill...you just chose not to pay it! Your bad economic choices are not OUR problem or OUR responsibility.

Detroit is a fine example of what America will look like after 4-8 years of Hillary. It is a petri dish of liberal policies left to fester and grow into a level of decay that only comes from many liberal policies all enacted at once in one urban area.

They cannot blame the downfall of Detroit on whites or conservatives or the TEA Party...no sir! The Dems own this one.

cinco
10-23-14, 15:57
Excuse me but water is NOT a basic right! Where do they get this crap?

Today in Detroit it is water....tomorrow it will be food...then cable tv then internet and so on. When will this nonsense stop?

All of the people protesting and whining about paying a water bill have I-phones and nice sneakers. Hello! You ticks and leeches CAN swing a water bill...you just chose not to pay it! Your bad economic choices are not OUR problem or OUR responsibility.

Detroit is a fine example of what America will look like after 4-8 years of Hillary. It is a petri dish of liberal policies left to fester and grow into a level of decay that only comes from many liberal policies all enacted at once in one urban area.

They cannot blame the downfall of Detroit on whites or conservatives or the TEA Party...no sir! The Dems own this one.

Oh, the socialists have been at that game for a loooong time. Just check out FDR's "Four Freedoms" and the push for the "Second Bill of Rights".

Specifically, "Freedom #3 - Freedom from Want". Oh and #4 is a doozy - "Freedom from Fear" - sound's familar doesn't it when people justify gun control out a "fear".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms

Good interpretation here of his push for the Second Bill of Rights:

http://www.heritage.org/initiatives/first-principles/primary-sources/fdrs-second-bill-of-rights

“Necessitous men are not free men,” FDR proclaims. Since “true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence,” the original Bill of Rights must be supplemented by eight rights that “spell security.” The proposed rights include the “right to a useful and remunerative job”—not the right to work, but the right to demand a job, and a well-paying one at that. “Farmers have the right to obtain “a decent living” from their toil, and businessmen have the right to be free of “unfair competition and domination by monopolies.” There are as well rights to “adequate medical care,” education, and the “right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation.”

While no Congress has formally adopted these as rights, legislation has expanded the meaning of these benefits such that we now speak of rights to health care, work, education, housing, and salary levels. In what sense are these goods rights? The original Bill of Rights supposed that self-government required certain civic traits and freedoms, so it declared these activities, such as the freedom of speech, to be protected from federal government interference. By contrast, Roosevelt’s rights require ever-expanding federal government programs for them to exist. The right to “adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment” is a right to be free of an anxiety. Yet, if one is free of fear of unemployment, will one ever want work? How much does one need to earn to enjoy “adequate…recreation”? What is a right to “a good education,” a “decent home,” or “good health”? The questions never end, because the standards of what is “good,” “adequate,” or “decent” constantly rise.

Moreover, the new Bill of Rights requires a redistributionist state that demands an ever-expanding bureaucracy with increasing budgets. The wealth of some pays for others’ newly coined rights. The new conception of rights diminishes the older notion, in particular an individual’s claim on his own property and even his own conscience and intellect, as life becomes more socialized in all its spheres."