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Denali
07-20-14, 11:57
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html


President Eisenhower cut off this illegal traffic. He did it quickly and decisively with only 1,075 United States Border Patrol agents – less than one-tenth of today's force. The operation is still highly praised among veterans of the Border Patrol.

Although there is little to no record of this operation in Ike's official papers, one piece of historic evidence indicates how he felt. In 1951, Ike wrote a letter to Sen. William Fulbright (D) of Arkansas. The senator had just proposed that a special commission be created by Congress to examine unethical conduct by government officials who accepted gifts and favors in exchange for special treatment of private individuals.

General Eisenhower, who was gearing up for his run for the presidency, said "Amen" to Senator Fulbright's proposal. He then quoted a report in The New York Times, highlighting one paragraph that said: "The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government."

Amazing what the corruption of both parties has wrought for us isn't it, the posture all but obviously being the boot licking of illegals as their prime constituency...Can you imagine the knee-jerk wailing & knashing of teeth if such were to be implemented today?

Bulletdog
07-20-14, 13:09
But if we stop the illegals from coming in and send the current ones back home to the country they love to advertise all over their cars that they are from, how will the Dems keep winning all these elections. The illegals are their best "early and often" voters.

They have recently been running ad campaigns here calling them "undocumented citizens" now. Apparently they are no longer people who illegally snuck across the border, parasitize the system, and vote for socialists and communists who offer them an ever broadening buffet of free stuff at MY expense. Oh no, apparently they are now my fellow US citizens that just don't have their "documents" yet.

If we fail as a society to stop this insanity, I really don't see how we can continue on as the country we have been for more than two centuries. We are losing this battle man.

Airhasz
07-20-14, 13:24
How did Ike ever get away with the term wetbacks and win an election??? I can understand a winning a war against Nazi aggression, being the great leader that he was.

Dienekes
07-20-14, 13:33
When I started as an agent with INS in 1972 there were still guys around that had been in on "Operation Wetback". My mentor, who was a dinosaur by any definition, was a "good old boy" from Texas. He used to say "I can't catch them all, but they can't keep me from trying." If he were here today, he would ask in bewilderment, "What the hell is wrong with you people?"

Those of us who busted our butts to deal with illegal immigrants, particularly the criminals, saw this stuff coming 35-40 years ago...

"He then quoted a report in The New York Times, highlighting one paragraph that said: "The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government."

And now--there are no words to express the contempt I have for the successive Administrations, Congresses, and bureaucratic hacks that sat back and let things get to this point. "Traitors" is the kindest thing I can say about them.

Apres moi,le déluge.

Denali
07-20-14, 13:34
How did Ike ever get away with the term wetbacks and win an election??? I can understand a winning a war against Nazi aggression, being the great leader that he was.

The term, "wetback" is not necessarily racial, its a term that was coined to describe individuals who had illicitly crossed the Rio Grande into the states from Mexico....Hence any one nabbed along the border was deemed a wetback!

jpmuscle
07-20-14, 13:45
How did Ike ever get away with the term wetbacks and win an election??? I can understand a winning a war against Nazi aggression, being the great leader that he was.
America did not suck once as much as it currently does is my guess.

SteyrAUG
07-20-14, 14:51
There is no money to be made by solving problems.

Today politicians make money by creating and / or allowing problems to develop and then declaring the need for extra funding to address the problems.

Airhasz
07-20-14, 15:00
There is no money to be made by solving problems.

Today politicians make money by creating and / or allowing problems to develop and then declaring the need for extra funding to address the problems.

Excellent point!

williejc
07-20-14, 17:18
Humanitarian crises is the new buzz word. Right to a better life is another phrase that I'm hearing. Oddly, the folks who are sympathetic to the crossing hordes never include the term illegal or law breaking in their discussion. The entire topic has all the delicate and sensitive aspects found in discussing race in a public forum.
I've not attended diversity training sessions in the last few years, but I bet your Kel-Tec collection that immigration sensitivity is now being included.

I live in a very conservative community but know many people who become uncomfortable when topics like crime rate, what they do to each other in the hood, widespread drug addiction, illiteracy rate, and immigration issues are discussed even in a sensitive manner. The guy who introduces these topics is deemed negative and soon excluded. By the way, exclusion is the way that the upper middle class deals with those who bring up negative thoughts.

BIGUGLY
07-21-14, 07:27
I'm sure Eisenhower had not forgotten how the U.S. got into world war one. After they found out Germany was planning on working with Mexico to create a war at our border to keep the U.S. out of the fight in Europe.

TAZ
07-21-14, 08:55
There is no money to be made by solving problems.

Today politicians make money by creating and / or allowing problems to develop and then declaring the need for extra funding to address the problems.

Bingo. This is a lost battle at the federal level. The corruption there is pretty rampant if you haven't guessed it. The fed will NEVER do anything about the issue because it is a HUGE boom to their economy and power base. This issue will have to be resolved at the state level; although it will be difficult at that level cause the corruption is pretty rampant at this level as well.

Let the sates shouldn't be defending the border and the Fed will go after the states again for trying to do so. IMO if the states wanted to stop the damage then they need to pass and/or enforce laws that make it difficult for illegals to receive benefits. No schools, not welfare, no housing, non medical and no jobs. Rabidly go after not only the illegals, but also those who provide them services. May not stop all the illegals from coming, but they wouldn't have motive to stay in a particular state.

interfan
07-21-14, 10:50
Although there is little to no record of this operation in Ike's official papers, one piece of historic evidence indicates how he felt. In 1951, Ike wrote a letter to Sen. William Fulbright (D) of Arkansas. The senator had just proposed that a special commission be created by Congress to examine unethical conduct by government officials who accepted gifts and favors in exchange for special treatment of private individuals.

General Eisenhower, who was gearing up for his run for the presidency, said "Amen" to Senator Fulbright's proposal.

Today there would be no one in Congress who wouldn't be disqualified on ethical grounds or conflicts of interest to sitting on a special commission on ethics. There is no presidential candidate who could say "Amen" to that without a lawsuit or accusations by the ACLU or CAIR either. It should be getting close to tar and feathering season...

Denali
07-21-14, 12:05
Let the sates shouldn't be defending the border and the Fed will go after the states again for trying to do so. IMO if the states wanted to stop the damage then they need to pass and/or enforce laws that make it difficult for illegals to receive benefits. No schools, not welfare, no housing, non medical and no jobs. Rabidly go after not only the illegals, but also those who provide them services. May not stop all the illegals from coming, but they wouldn't have motive to stay in a particular state.

The states should not have to even be considering defending their borders with Mexico, it is one of the primary reasons that the federal government even exists, why it was created in the first place! If the fed is refusing to exercise its constitutionally mandated interdict then they have "fully" crossed the line into tyranny, and that is that! This is why this issue will eventually be the spark that ignites the whole into conflagration, its indisputable and it is inevitable! I travel extensively between the two borders, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the pot is beginning to boil over....

Big A
07-21-14, 12:30
The states should not have to even be considering defending their borders with Mexico, it is one of the primary reasons that the federal government even exists, why it was created in the first place! If the fed is refusing to exercise its constitutionally mandated interdict then they have "fully" crossed the line into tyranny, and that is that! This is why this issue will eventually be the spark that ignites the whole into conflagration, its indisputable and it is inevitable! I travel extensively between the two borders, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the pot is beginning to boil over....

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/governor-perry-deploys-1000-national-guard-border-denies-militarization-border

TAZ
07-21-14, 15:30
The states should not have to even be considering defending their borders with Mexico, it is one of the primary reasons that the federal government even exists, why it was created in the first place! If the fed is refusing to exercise its constitutionally mandated interdict then they have "fully" crossed the line into tyranny, and that is that! This is why this issue will eventually be the spark that ignites the whole into conflagration, its indisputable and it is inevitable! I travel extensively between the two borders, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the pot is beginning to boil over....

Apparently autocorrect decided that what I was typing wasn't what I meant to type. That first sentence should read the states shouldn't be....

I agree with you to some extent, but I don't think this will cause any hub bub. Only the racist border states are concerned by the issue. Till something dramatic happens as a result of this incompetence people will just keep watching the kardshians and remain oblivious.

Denali
07-21-14, 16:28
Apparently autocorrect decided that what I was typing wasn't what I meant to type. That first sentence should read the states shouldn't be....

I agree with you to some extent, but I don't think this will cause any hub bub. Only the racist border states are concerned by the issue. Till something dramatic happens as a result of this incompetence people will just keep watching the kardshians and remain oblivious.

Its already causing a "hub bub," its being suppressed by the democrat controlled media monopoly for a reason, they don't just suppress information for the hell of it, there is a reason for it....When you look at this from the perspective of constitutional law, even just regular old contract law, where one of the signers of a contract that requires from them a very select, limited service in exchange for levying a tax, a draft, or whatever, just up and refuses to honor its end of the contract, what has become of your contract then? This is the amazing thing to me, its over, this nation is deader then road kill, the federal branch is in complete and total default of its sacred constitutional obligation too that border, they are in default! The fed is a parasite, they have few fears beyond the stubborn refusal of "we the people" to turn over our guns, and that is precisely the reason why Obama, Holder, & Pelosi want to take them from us, yet it never ceases to amaze me how folks just walk about as if everything is A-okay....Well its not okay, the system is dead, when it actually died may be open to some speculation, but one thing is certain, when the federal government stopped honoring its sacred obligations to enforce our borders as a means of perpetuating its own base of power at the expense of its own citizenry, our so-called constitutional fabric was shriven, whats left in its wake is no more democracy, than it is liberty & justice for all, its just a select group doing what it wishes whenever it wishes at the expense of everyone else, just as such folk have been doing since we first crawled out of the caves and down from the trees....

HD1911
07-21-14, 21:33
Its already causing a "hub bub," its being suppressed by the democrat controlled media monopoly for a reason, they don't just suppress information for the hell of it, there is a reason for it....When you look at this from the perspective of constitutional law, even just regular old contract law, where one of the signers of a contract that requires from them a very select, limited service in exchange for levying a tax, a draft, or whatever, just up and refuses to honor its end of the contract, what has become of your contract then? This is the amazing thing to me, its over, this nation is deader then road kill, the federal branch is in complete and total default of its sacred constitutional obligation too that border, they are in default! The fed is a parasite, they have few fears beyond the stubborn refusal of "we the people" to turn over our guns, and that is precisely the reason why Obama, Holder, & Pelosi want to take them from us, yet it never ceases to amaze me how folks just walk about as if everything is A-okay....Well its not okay, the system is dead, when it actually died may be open to some speculation, but one thing is certain, when the federal government stopped honoring its sacred obligations to enforce our borders as a means of perpetuating its own base of power at the expense of its own citizenry, our so-called constitutional fabric was shriven, whats left in its wake is no more democracy, than it is liberty & justice for all, its just a select group doing what it wishes whenever it wishes at the expense of everyone else, just as such folk have been doing since we first crawled out of the caves and down from the trees....

Spot on.

Straight Shooter
07-21-14, 22:17
HOT DAMN Denali...IM WRITING YOUR ASS IN ON THE BALLOT!!
I HOPE the pot is about to boil over...its PAST TIME. NOT for a lawless, Godless, aimless insurrection...but for a RESTORATION of Constitutional law and personal & religious liberties.
Although I am NOT advocating this here in this forum, not the time nor place, I know of no other time or place in history where this was accomplished without bloodshed and violence. If someone here does, please educate me.
Jeffersons "The Tree of Liberty"...quote comes to my mind, daily.
Once people finally recognize & accept that the Government of the United States of America is 100% un-Constitutional..100% out of touch with reality in ANY measurable form or fashion..that it IS in fact..done, over, through, finite, the better off and sooner we can all take steps needed to restore it back to at least a semblance of what its supposed to be.

Pilgrim
07-21-14, 22:52
There is no money to be made by solving problems.

Today politicians make money by creating and / or allowing problems to develop and then declaring the need for extra funding to address the problems.

An observation so undeniably correct it will find it's way into every political discussion I have from now on.

Pilgrim
07-21-14, 22:57
Its already causing a "hub bub," its being suppressed by the democrat controlled media monopoly for a reason, they don't just suppress information for the hell of it, there is a reason for it....When you look at this from the perspective of constitutional law, even just regular old contract law, where one of the signers of a contract that requires from them a very select, limited service in exchange for levying a tax, a draft, or whatever, just up and refuses to honor its end of the contract, what has become of your contract then? This is the amazing thing to me, its over, this nation is deader then road kill, the federal branch is in complete and total default of its sacred constitutional obligation too that border, they are in default! The fed is a parasite, they have few fears beyond the stubborn refusal of "we the people" to turn over our guns, and that is precisely the reason why Obama, Holder, & Pelosi want to take them from us, yet it never ceases to amaze me how folks just walk about as if everything is A-okay....Well its not okay, the system is dead, when it actually died may be open to some speculation, but one thing is certain, when the federal government stopped honoring its sacred obligations to enforce our borders as a means of perpetuating its own base of power at the expense of its own citizenry, our so-called constitutional fabric was shriven, whats left in its wake is no more democracy, than it is liberty & justice for all, its just a select group doing what it wishes whenever it wishes at the expense of everyone else, just as such folk have been doing since we first crawled out of the caves and down from the trees....

Dick Morris did say the US will become almost unrecognizable by O's second term.

Right is now wrong, and wrong is now right... and so many intellectuals on the left can explain why this is a good thing.

Dienekes
07-22-14, 13:01
"Right is now wrong, and wrong is now right... and so many intellectuals on the left can explain why this is a good thing."

Yeah--but saying so doesn't mean it's true. And don't forget hubris...