USGI contract for Sabre Defence

[Slater]

From Defenselink today:

Sabre Defence Industries, LLC, Nashville, Tenn., was awarded on Jun. 11, 2008, a $5,062,099.00 firm fixed price IDIQ contract for 4,952 each M16A3 rifles to support the U.S. Navy. 702 each for the U.S. Marine Corps, M16A4 Rifles to support the U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Army, and Foreign Military Sales Customers. Work is to be performed in Nashville, Tenn., and is expected to be completed by Dec. 31, 2010. Bids were solicited via the Web with nine bids received. TACOM LCMC, AMSTA-LC-WSC-C, Rock Island, Ill., is the contracting activity (W52H09-08-D-0293).

Is this the first time that Sabre has supplied complete rifles rather than components?

[Slater]

FYI, this is the contract/pricing:


https://aais.ria.army.mil/aais/award_web_08/W52H0908D02930001/000000.pdf

[The Archangel]

Wow, looks like someone needs to negotiate for the NAVY. I figured that they could have gotten them less than $1,022 each. Oh yeah I forgot, they aren't really paying for it.. we are.

[Warrior]

This could be very interesting. Good for Sabre!

[Slater]

Unless I'm reading the contract wrong, the M16A3's are $885 apiece.

[Soulrack223]

I get $895.31 each for 5,654 rifles. 4,952 M16A3 and 702 M16A4...

[Soulrack223]

Slater, you are correct. It's spelled out in the PDF file.

[variablebinary]

From Defenselink today:

Sabre Defence Industries, LLC, Nashville, Tenn., was awarded on Jun. 11, 2008, a $5,062,099.00 firm fixed price IDIQ contract for 4,952 each M16A3 rifles to support the U.S. Navy. 702 each for the U.S. Marine Corps, M16A4 Rifles to support the U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Army, and Foreign Military Sales Customers. Work is to be performed in Nashville, Tenn., and is expected to be completed by Dec. 31, 2010. Bids were solicited via the Web with nine bids received. TACOM LCMC, AMSTA-LC-WSC-C, Rock Island, Ill., is the contracting activity (W52H09-08-D-0293).

Is this the first time that Sabre has supplied complete rifles rather than components?


Very nice. I'm not shocked that Sabre was able to make serious inroads into .Mil

[YukonGlocker]

Excellent.:D

[threefeathers]

Is this their gas trap version or their DI rifle. Good luck to Sabre as I'm really looking at their 6.5 Grandel.

[LTPhoon]

Does this mean they are TDP-compliant now?

[markm]

Does this mean they are TDP-compliant now?

What they build for the contract will be.

[Slater]

There were nine bids on that contract. I'm guessing that Colt, FN, and Bushmaster were among the bidders. Wonder who all the others were?

[markm]

OLYMPIC ARMS? :p

[Gunfighter.45]

Ok now Rob has to move Sabre Defense up two notches next Colt!!:D

[Jay Cunningham]

I am an unabashed fan of Sabre Defense products. Good on them for winning the bid.

[dewatters]

There were nine bids on that contract. I'm guessing that Colt, FN, and Bushmaster were among the bidders. Wonder who all the others were?

No guessing about. Colt, FN, and Bushmaster all won contracts from this solicitation back in December. If you'll remember, Bushmaster got theirs yanked since they didn't qualify for the "small business" set-aside, and Colt backed out since they had "mistakenly" underbid.

[Paladin4415]

Ok now Rob has to move Sabre Defense up two notches next Colt!!:D

Only if they follow the TDP on ALL the rifles they produce.

[RRMan03]

Does anyone know where you can get Sabre Rifles? So far I have not been able to find them anywhere.

[Ned Christiansen]

Sabre is making good stuff. They have produced M2's in the past and are currently producing M2 barrels and other components, Minigun barrels, and M60 barrels (Stellite lined), all for the gov. They're one of the few AR makers who make their own barrels, and they make most of the other components (including bolts and carriers) as well, in-house.

[AMMOTECH]

:(

They should have stuck with FN.

As it stands we will still be building M16's till 2010. :cool:

Now we'll see if Colt is able to keep the M4 contract... :eek:

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[Dave L.]

I've never been in combat with an "M16", only M4's; I feel sorry for anyone who has to take that length stock anywhere with armor on.
I have no clue why they keep spending money on them.
$.02

[Failure2Stop]

I've never been in combat with an "M16", only M4's; I feel sorry for anyone who has to take that length stock anywhere with armor on.
I have no clue why they keep spending money on them.
$.02

I have been in combat with a SAM-R. It was great for mid-range, but it was sub-optimal for CQB, to say the least. I much prefer an M4A1 for anything other than long-range target shooting.

I +1 the confusion on continuing to spend money on the traditional platform.

However- good luck to Sabre, the A3 is a fun gun. Hopefully the TDP will cross-over into their production guns. I would not mind at all to have another superior source of guns and parts.

[Warrior]

I've never been in combat with an "M16", only M4's; I feel sorry for anyone who has to take that length stock anywhere with armor on.
I have no clue why they keep spending money on them.
$.02

i didn't like the length of pull on the A2 buttstock at all. it's too long for me even without bodyarmor on. I stand 5'6" and workout quite a bit so I can't get NTCH ever with the A2 LOP.

[CarlosDJackal]

Why they keep buying those damn "muskets" is beyond me!! :rolleyes: And they opted for carryinghandles at that.


2. The award is processed against Ordering Period 1 (Award through 31 December 2008) and the following CLINS are awarded:

CLIN 0005AA - First Article Test for the M16A4 at a cost of $29,500.00.

CLIN 0005AB - 352 each, M16A4 Rifles, 5.56mm, with BUIS removed and carrying handle assembly attached, USMC sling in lieu of standard Army sling per weapon top drawing at a unit cost of $884.00 for a cost of $311,168.00.

CLIN 0005AC - 350 each, M16A4 Rifles, 5.56mm, with BUIS removed and carrying handle assembly attached, USMC sling in lieu of standard Army sling per weapon top drawing at a unit cost of $884.00 for a cost of $309,400.00.

CLIN 0008AA - First Article Test for the M16A3 at a cost of $29,500.00.

Clin 0008AB - 4,538 M16A3 Rifle, 5.56mm, NSN 1005-01-357-5112 at unit price of $885.00 each for a cost of $4,016,130.00.

Clin 0008AC - 414 M16A3 Rifle, 5.56mm, NSN 1005-01-357-5112 at unit price of $885.00 each for a cost of $366,390.00.

[dewatters]

:(

They should have stuck with FN.

As it stands we will still be building M16's till 2010. :cool:


This doesn't effect FN Manufacturing's contract from the same solicitation. Sabre Defence's contract is clearly the small business set-aside portion outlined in later modifications of original solicitation.

[Slater]

http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA168577&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf

According to the above study, the lengthened buttstock complies with "Conformity to human factors standards by lengthening stock (alleviating bruised eyebrows, noses, and lips".

Of course, the Army saw things differently than the Marines.