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I watched part of the announcement. Color me impressed. The hardware seems solid as the larger screen iPhone option is a much needed improvement. I also like some of the software innovations such as the Apple Pay app.
The watch seems cool, the larger screen iPhone 6 is a no-brainer.
I'd be pretty worried about wearing that watch. One sharp crack against a sharp corner and ... buh-bye watch.
But looks kind of nifty.
JBecker 72
09-09-14, 15:03
I'm gonna be due for an upgrade in December and want the iPhone 6 to replace my 5.
Looking at the specs, etc of this new 6, i think apple fans will be happy with it but not likely to get new fans from it. Me, I'll grab a price reduced 5S as I don't need the latest greatest gen phone to impress my friends or what ever. Hell, my 4S works fine. But, there are some improvements I'd enjoy in the 5S and that's what I'll grab and let the beta testers get the kinks out of the 6.
Me, not an early adopter of first gen tech as a rule.
Apple unveiled the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, the Apple Watch smartwatch and a new mobile payments platform called ApplePay on Tuesday.
New iPhones: “Today, we are launching the biggest advancement in the history of iPhone,” Apple CEO Tim Cook said at an event in Cupertino, Calif. “They are without a doubt the best iPhones we’ve ever done.”
Display: The iPhones have curved edges and bigger screens that measure 4.7 inches and 5.5 inches, up from just four inches on the iPhone 5S.
The larger iPhones have what Apple is calling “Retina HD” displays. The iPhone 6 comes with more than 1 million pixels — a third more pixels than the iPhone 5S. The iPhone 6 Plus has 2 million pixels, double the iPhone 5S’ screen.
To help users handle the bigger phone, Apple has moved the on-off switch to the right edge of the phone. And when you double-tap the home button, the entire display will slide down so users can access items on the top of the screen.
The bigger displays allow for bigger batteries: 11 hours of video watching on the iPhone 6 and 14 hours for the iPhone 6 Plus — up from 10 hours on the iPhone 5S.
Speed: The iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus feature Apple’s new A8 processor, which is 25% faster than the iPhone 5S. The M8 co-processor will allow fitness apps to tell the difference between walking and biking and even measure your relative elevation.
Camera: Both iPhones feature an 8 megapixel camera with a new sensor that Apple claims will help the camera focus faster.
Software: The iPhones will feature Apple’s new iOS 8 software, a relatively minor update from iOS 7. Among the bigger iOS 8 additions is a new HealthKit application that monitors users’ heart rates, sleep, weight and blood pressure among other health-related information. IOS 8 will also feature HomeKit, a new platform for people to control all the items in their homes with the iPad or iPhone.
Apple said iOS 8 will be available Sept. 17 to customers who have an iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5C or iPhone 5S.
Both iPhones will be available Sept. 19 in the United States and eight other countries. Pre-orders will begin on Friday. The 16 GB iPhone 6 will be available for $199. The 64 GB version will cost $299; $399 will get you 128 GB. The iPhone 6 Plus will start at $299.
Apple will also discount the iPhone 5S and iPhone 5C by $100. The iPhone 5S will maintain its aluminum casing — it won’t get the iPhone 5C’s plastic treatment.
Apple Watch: Apple also unveiled the Apple Watch smartwatch, the company’s first wearable device. The Apple Watch pairs with the new iPhones to display notifications. It features a magnetic charger, health and fitness apps and a crown that controls zoom and scrolling with a twist. Oh, and it will tell time too — allowing users to choose between multiple watch faces.
Apple said it will sell three versions of the Apple Watch, including a sports model and an 18 carat gold model called the “Apple Watch Edition.” The Apple Watch also comes in two sizes, one slightly smaller than the other.
Google has already unveiled its smartwatch software called “Android Wear.” Samsung, Motorola, LG and other gadget makers have already launched smartwatches, which have received mixed reviews and tepid interest from consumers.
ApplePay: Apple also unveiled a new mobile payments platform called ApplePay, which works with the new iPhones.
Using a technology called “near field communications,” or NFC, the new iPhones will be able to interact with payment terminals in a simple tap. Apple has deals in place with the major credit card companies, including American Express, MasterCard and Visa, as well as several major retailers.
Apple touted ApplePay’s security. The company said it doesn’t store your credit card information on your phone — and the number isn’t even given to the merchant. ApplePay also works with the iPhone’s TouchID sensor — allowing people to pay with a swipe of their fingertips.
Apple also said ApplePay is convenient. It already has your credit card information and address associated with your iPhone account — when you pay for something, you can just touch the TouchID sensor and have items shipped to you.
“Our ambition is to replace this,” said Cook, holding a wallet.
http://myfox8.com/2014/09/09/iphone-6-plus-apple-unveils-new-iphone-6-and-iphone-6-plus/
Seems like we wanted smaller and smaller cell phones until we were able to watch porn on them, now we want them larger again.
I am not a fan to be honest. I find the iPhone5/5s screen to be a perfect size. For someone who stood online to get the original iPhone and had it from day one, I have not kept up with the constant changes. I went from iPhone to iPhone 4, now I will get the iPhone 6 but not the larger screen version.
Okay Magpul, start working on a cover....
I'm due for an upgrade now, I think I'll be getting the one next week.
Seems like we wanted smaller and smaller cell phones until we were able to watch porn on them, now we want them larger again.
The fones are getting bigger and the tablets are getting smaller. Eventually they'll swap positions. (people are so retarded)
So. Much. Meh.
Then again, I'm conclusively one of those people that thinks for myself and therefore is an avowed Android whore; I just hate the fact that medical apps are so much more prevalent for iOS, so I've had to learn some iPHone derpiness because my wife requires one.
Im up for an upgrade some time in October and may splurge for the 6. I like the bigger screen and the thinner profile. Will have to see what the real numbers are for battery life and performance. Bigger screen and less battery space might be a killer. My 5 currently can go for a couple of days without a recharge, unless I hit Netflix too much that is.
The watch seems interesting. I'll have to watch the keynote to see what the listed specs are. That ion x or whatever glass better be pretty hard to bust and the thing needs to be water proof for my EDC use. Wonder what the battery life is going to be? With an onboard speaker and accelerometer it would seem like maybe a cool shot timer all would be possible. Maybe the folks at Shotmaxx will put out an app. Anyone see an expected price for the watch?
brickboy240
09-09-14, 15:40
I agree. The Apple lemmings are all a twitter today...are they not?
I still have no desire to have an Apple phone or computer ever again.
-brickboy240
thopkins22
09-09-14, 15:44
So. Much. Meh.
Then again, I'm conclusively one of those people that thinks for myself and therefore is an avowed Android whore; I just hate the fact that medical apps are so much more prevalent for iOS, so I've had to learn some iPHone derpiness because my wife requires one.
I used to be this way, and then I actually started thinking for myself. Apple stuff....works. And the way it works together is so superior to everything else I've tried. My phone, my laptop, my home computer...they all exist together as though they're meant to.
The fones are getting bigger and the tablets are getting smaller. Eventually they'll swap positions. (people are so retarded)
Enter the phablet.
Outlander Systems
09-09-14, 16:09
I used to be this way, and then I actually started thinking for myself. Apple stuff....works. And the way it works together is so superior to everything else I've tried. My phone, my laptop, my home computer...they all exist together as though they're meant to.
This.
After spending time with a Galaxy S4, I sprung for the full-price upgrade to go slithering back to Apple. There is a magnificence in its simplicity.
I used to be this way, and then I actually started thinking for myself. Apple stuff....works. And the way it works together is so superior to everything else I've tried. My phone, my laptop, my home computer...they all exist together as though they're meant to.
I run Apply computers in my home and business, but use the Galaxy S5 for my phone. I have been a long time Apple Iphone user, but made the jump.
I like the robust and quality of the Apple computers, but think there are better phone options out there (based off my Iphone 4 and 5 experience).
C4
brickboy240
09-09-14, 16:15
I also made the switch to the Galaxy 3 and now rock the Galaxy S4. Don't miss the I-phone one bit.
-brickboy240
I used to be this way, and then I actually started thinking for myself. Apple stuff....works. And the way it works together is so superior to everything else I've tried. My phone, my laptop, my home computer...they all exist together as though they're meant to.
I still consider the AirBooks to be the ideal cost-is-no-object laptop solution (albeit running Transitions and primarily working off a resident Ubuntu box and having a Win7 setup for better compatibility); for video editing/photo editing/other artistic tasks as well as stuff chromebooks excel at Apple again still leads because the first party software. I can learn decrepit military unix systems faster than I can comprehend how to do basic tasks on current Apple tech, and have done exactly that (while I still have no clue how to toggle GPS location services on my wife's 5C after spending 45 minutes trying - in that amount of time I could learn entire new applications on a better platform).
It comes down to how it's used - for a vanilla user, or somebody well supported by the application base there is merit in running Apple stuff - for how I use anything technological, they're unimaginably obtuse, overpriced on hardware, and dated with regard to capability. Seamless matching in function is great, until something better is experienced, and Apple in an area they should still be dominant have already ceded so much ground that there is no longer any compelling reason for me to look at any of their stuff, yet I have to buy it because somebody else in my family has one of those ideal use cases (so I still have to deal with the frustrating parts of it).
The 6 looks ok. The 6+ is what I am looking forward too.
People are going to complain that they didn't innovate enough. However there are a couple things here. First off is that Smart Phone tech has reached a bit of a Plateau. Of course there will be improvements and game changers. But with current tech I think we are stable for a couple more years.
More importantly though is that people forget there are two sides to innovation. First off is the creation of new groundbreaking tech. And second the taking of existing ideas and bringing them to the masses. This latter one is what Apple excels at. The first iPhone didn't do anything that current devices out there didn't already do. It just did it better. It made it accessible to the masses in one convenient device. NFC has been around for a couple years. Great tech idea. But nobody has done anything with it. Apple signed on a few large companies that could help bring the idea to the forefront. It isn't about being first. It is about making it work best for people.
Kewlz, you nailed one key part of it - bringing it to a large enough and vociferous enough pile of consumers to make that technology actually stick. I can't get past the irony that despite GoogleWallet being capable of doing the NFC Mobile Payment setup for years now, that that payment modality will only become commonplace enough to be relevant because it's finally available on an Apple product (and admittedly will stop feeling like a Beta version of that concept).
It's more of a business model concept that Apple relies very heavily on first party and very limited/selected third party development and fast-tracks innovation that fits their walled garden model and basically rejects everything else - because the consumer base is there Apple consumers get more polished versions of applications because more money can be made, but they aren't even necessarily the best implementation of that idea, simply the first one that works on the platform that is most profitable for developers AND apple.
Other than that, I'll just leave this here
http://i.imgur.com/3UBmFWT.jpg
Moose-Knuckle
09-09-14, 20:30
Nuts! I see they didn't include a flux capacitor with this launch. Oh well, there is always the iPhoneVII to look forward to . . .
I was underwhelmed by the iPhone 6. The adoring Apple fanatics will, of course, drool over it.
I dumped the iPhone and went with Android a year or so ago and can not be happier.
I was underwhelmed by the iPhone 6. The adoring Apple fanatics will, of course, drool over it.
I dumped the iPhone and went with Android a year or so ago and can not be happier.
My work phones was an i5 and yet i prefer my gs3. Also im the same way, you really cant say anything bad about Fap-ple products, they do work and the marketing is killer, but the innovation is lacking and imo feel the android devices are increasing the lead in tech.
I'm going back to the iPhone after a 2 year stint with a Galaxy Note 2. It works fine in and of itself, but so many other things just work more seamlessly with iStuff. (My car being one of them.) I never had a problem with the iPhones of the past, I just thought I'd try an Android and see what was up. It has some neat features, but the interfacing with a new car is very mediocre in comparison to how well the older iPhones worked with early integrated bluetooth vehicles. Overall, I think the whole Mac vs PC, Android vs. IOS schtick is tiresome. They all get the job done just fine, in the end, IME. I've got a mix of Apple, Android, and PC at home, different tools for different jobs, but I prefer using the Mac the most.
The wife is holding out to see if FLIR makes the ONE for iPhone 6. Otherwise, she'll have no problem getting an iPhone 5S. She's been dying for that thing to come out.
Belmont31R
09-09-14, 22:26
Kewlz, you nailed one key part of it - bringing it to a large enough and vociferous enough pile of consumers to make that technology actually stick. I can't get past the irony that despite GoogleWallet being capable of doing the NFC Mobile Payment setup for years now, that that payment modality will only become commonplace enough to be relevant because it's finally available on an Apple product (and admittedly will stop feeling like a Beta version of that concept).
It's more of a business model concept that Apple relies very heavily on first party and very limited/selected third party development and fast-tracks innovation that fits their walled garden model and basically rejects everything else - because the consumer base is there Apple consumers get more polished versions of applications because more money can be made, but they aren't even necessarily the best implementation of that idea, simply the first one that works on the platform that is most profitable for developers AND apple.
Other than that, I'll just leave this here
That picture is funny but has no context. NFC has been around but where can you use it? How can you use it? Apple is the only one who is going to make NFC mainstream. Google won't, and if they did they'd use it as an opportunity to track your spending or some other facet of how you use your device.
Apple screens are FAR superior to anything that has ever been put into a Nexus. Speaking of marketing...Android manufacturers put out specs like 1080p or 2k but don't bother to tell you their screens don't support those resolutions across the full RGB spectrum. Samsung released a 2k display version of the S5 in South Korea which has a much better quality screen tech wise compared to the US version. Apple screens are well calibrated for true color reproduction. If you want unnatural colors and 'pop' then theres other options.
Widgets are overrated in my experience. Maybe they are better now but I don't miss them a single bit as far as the Android implementation.
3rd party keyboards are cool but again Apple did it right, and there won't be an opportunity for a 3rd party app to steal passwords or keylog your phone as is possible on Android.
iOS has had suggestions for quite a while.
iOS has had cloud photo backup for quite a while.
I've been able to share things like documents across apps for quite a while.
I've been running iOS 8 since beta 3, and the battery stats thing I've checked twice. Android definitely needs it since they're much more prone to have rogue apps. Per app battery stats are useful in diagnosing that. iOS has had system time battery stats for quite a while.
And the Nexus 4 has a crappy camera compared to the iPhone 5 which also came out in 2012, and much lower build quality. You also get to play in the Google ecosystem which is designed to be like a vacuum of your personal data so Google can sell ads using your personal conversations, contacts, etc. The 'walled garden' protects users from malicious apps, and I appreciate that apps go through a vetting process. I can give my kids an iPad, and I don't have to worry about them making in app purchases or downloading something that is going to harm anything. My kids used to have a Galaxy Tab, and I had to factory reset it 3 times because of malicious apps, theres no way to block 'free downloads', and they racked up around $30 in in-app purchases once.
I'd dare someone to dip a G3 or M8 into water. Wireless charging is lame. How do you use your phone while its charging? Don't need multi user support. One person uses my phone, and thats me. Default apps would be welcome. Virtual buttons...I'd rather have Touch ID
Belmont31R
09-09-14, 22:43
My work phones was an i5 and yet i prefer my gs3. Also im the same way, you really cant say anything bad about Fap-ple products, they do work and the marketing is killer, but the innovation is lacking and imo feel the android devices are increasing the lead in tech.
They can jam all the tech they want into Android phones but like NFC they can't make use of it. iOS, and even Windows Phone, don't need the specs Android phones do to operate smoothly. Even then abortions like TouchWiz can make the newest Samsung products stutter, and show lag. I don't see anyone in the tech media circles touting how much better TouchWiz is than iOS. Samsung has a whole suite of apps that no one ever says they really like. Most of that stuff becomes junk you can't get rid of.
Apple innovated the first finger printer scanner on a phone that actually works really well, and people will actually use. Samsung had to have a me too moment, and threw a finger print scanner on the S5 that doesn't work nearly as well or effortlessly.
Their new payment system is going to change how people pay for things for a long time to come. Samsung, LG, Motorola, Sony...ect...don't do anything close to that.
Apple came out with the first smart phone, and tablet that worked well and changed how people use technology. I don't see any innovation with the Android manufacturers. They basically copied the slab style smartphone with a touch screen, leech of Google for the core OS, and then do iterative updates with no new technology they actually came up with on their own that changes how millions of people do things. Since the original Galaxy they haven't come up with a single 'game changing' technology on their own.
Samsung has come out with 7 wearables in under a year, and the first Apple watch blows them all out of the water in terms of UI, hardware, and features. I've yet to see a single person with a Samsung watch. Ill see quite a few with Apple's, and its not just because of marketing but it has the guts to attract people's attention to where they'll want to use a smart watch. Android Wear's problem is they came up with a decent base OS, and then they're going to rely on manufacturers to come up with their own designs. So just like with Android there will be feature fragmentation, apps are going to be harder to do (some AW watches are round, some rectangles, different resolutions, etc), there will be half baked attempts to match Apple's features, and they'll come out with a new watch every other month at least (Samsung has 7 in less than a year). Apple's watch will get much better apps, more of them, and I already think the hardware blows anything else out of the water. Women will want them in droves because they don't all look like pure tech products.
Belmont31R
09-09-14, 22:53
This.
After spending time with a Galaxy S4, I sprung for the full-price upgrade to go slithering back to Apple. There is a magnificence in its simplicity.
Been around with 3rd party apps that aren't widely adopted, but those with Mac's and iPhones are going to love the SMS integration into Messages on Mac with iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite. I have been using the dev versions of both for a couple months, and texting in this seamless fashion is awesome. Can make and receive calls on my Mac that go through my phone which can remain in my pocket instead of going back and forth from my phone to computer. Can just get up and go and pick up an SMS conversation with my phone if I leave the house or whatever. And its smart enough to know which device I'm already using so if Im on my phone my computer won't alert right away. It'll go to my phone first if Im using that, and vice versa. If you have an iPad this works there, too, so you can have all 3 devices being able to make/answer calls and send/receive SMS using just the phone's cellular signal.
This is also going to work with apps, so if you're typing something on Pages, and get up because you have to leave, you will be able to pull up the same document on your phone or tablet, and open it up right where you left off.
steyrman13
09-09-14, 23:06
I wish they would have:
-Actually used the Sapphire Crystal rather than sticking with the easily breakable Gorilla Glass
- Went with a better Camera. The S5 that I tried out had a much better camera
- I like the IR remote feature on the S5 and actually used it
- Hopefully Battery life will actually be better. My I5 sucks! (And no it's not in the recall for battery replacement)
I do like how the iPhone is less prone to freezing up or crashing apps. and that Apps are better vetted and smoother usually.
Belmont31R
09-09-14, 23:26
I wish they would have:
-Actually used the Sapphire Crystal rather than sticking with the easily breakable Gorilla Glass
- Went with a better Camera. The S5 that I tried out had a much better camera
- I like the IR remote feature on the S5 and actually used it
- Hopefully Battery life will actually be better. My I5 sucks! (And no it's not in the recall for battery replacement)
I do like how the iPhone is less prone to freezing up or crashing apps. and that Apps are better vetted and smoother usually.
Sapphire is actually more brittle than Gorilla Glass but is more scratch resistant. So you would get a screen that can shatter more easily but is unlikely to get scratched.
MP count is not everything when comparing a camera. iPhones generally have the best camera all around, and work just fine at 8MP for what smartphone cameras are used for. They are regularly reviewed as the best smart phone cameras.
I have a Time Warner Cable app on my phone that can change the channel, set DVR recordings, ect.
Poor battery life can be cause by a variety of things. The stock settings, and certain apps can cause more drain than others. I routinely get 9-10hrs out of my 5S.
iOS apps are generally better than Android apps. More money to be made developing for iOS, and the apps are actually easier to code for.
steyrman13
09-09-14, 23:31
Sapphire is actually more brittle than Gorilla Glass but is more scratch resistant. So you would get a screen that can shatter more easily but is unlikely to get scratched.
MP count is not everything when comparing a camera. iPhones generally have the best camera all around, and work just fine at 8MP for what smartphone cameras are used for. They are regularly reviewed as the best smart phone cameras.
I have a Time Warner Cable app on my phone that can change the channel, set DVR recordings, ect.
Poor battery life can be cause by a variety of things. The stock settings, and certain apps can cause more drain than others. I routinely get 9-10hrs out of my 5S.
iOS apps are generally better than Android apps. More money to be made developing for iOS, and the apps are actually easier to code for.
I have shattered two iPhone 5 screens from a fall less than a foot onto hard surface. My 4s fell several times more from higher heights on the same surfaces but never once cracked. I think it has more to do with thinner glass and design on the 5 more than material, but it has left a bad taste.
I can tell you the color replication and clarity and pixel count in the s5 blows my 5 out of the water.
9-10 hour battery life to me is unacceptable. I may work more than that in one day and have no access to a charger. Obviously I can get a battery extender case, but I don't feel I should have to. My 4s lasted better than my 5, but that can be due to LTE usage. I actually think my 5 has the same defective battery, it's just not included in the recall serial range.
The time warner app doesn't help me and doesn't help to control the tv input and blue ray and other peoples tv and etc etc.
Been around with 3rd party apps that aren't widely adopted, but those with Mac's and iPhones are going to love the SMS integration into Messages on Mac with iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite. I have been using the dev versions of both for a couple months, and texting in this seamless fashion is awesome. Can make and receive calls on my Mac that go through my phone which can remain in my pocket instead of going back and forth from my phone to computer. Can just get up and go and pick up an SMS conversation with my phone if I leave the house or whatever. And its smart enough to know which device I'm already using so if Im on my phone my computer won't alert right away. It'll go to my phone first if Im using that, and vice versa. If you have an iPad this works there, too, so you can have all 3 devices being able to make/answer calls and send/receive SMS using just the phone's cellular signal.
This is also going to work with apps, so if you're typing something on Pages, and get up because you have to leave, you will be able to pull up the same document on your phone or tablet, and open it up right where you left off.
I've had this capability through gVoice for a ludicrously long period of time - it's really janky by comparison and really only worth it because I could also use that to deny Verizon their asinine charges to use SMS on a phone with an EVDO internet connection, only remaining issue is the double alert mechanism (c'est la vie). Again, abuse google cloud and the rest of those capabilities have been there forever, just require excessive massaging to make it work. The watches really are going to exemplify that - the hardware differences are going to be inconsequentially small, but because Apple has the closed spec with the ecosystem of apps that work better because it's an entirely in-house platform, it'll run well enough to get adopted. Some features eventually get discarded as dumb, others are just low uptake (few people need multiple user profile - I need multiple on my phone because my wife owns an iPhone, and it's battery life is crap).
I can't hold the complete polished execution against Apple, they really do exceptionally at that and the marketing side of the house, but it still bothers me that they've never released versions with better battery life - this really sucks because me, being an idiot, got my wife an iPhone 5C - and the aftermarket took one look at the sales numbers and pointlessly different dimensions and decided that making battery cases for the 5C's isn't worth it (Mophie has been making the answer for crap iPhone battery life for a while now) - so now she owns a device that is essential for her work that can only make it through 12 hours of nonstop use without charging, and some of her shifts run longer than that; I don't have a good answer for that - at least Magpul made cases for the stupid things.
It's far from the android and other OS setups being unable to use the hardware features, it's just that the remainder of the market know that whatever standard is dominant those first couple years becomes irrelevant each time the iHerd 'discovers' a new features every moo-vember and goes out to buy the next generation of Apple stuff with that, and now that the expectation is there from past history, whatever market impetus there would have been to make effective use of new technologies instead becomes a fishbowl beta observation of dorks like me who will experiment, hack, and make stuff work for them and then Apple can roll out their fully incubated version of that idea, present it to imbeciles as 'new', and then let the market keep coming to them.
As far as the google data vacuum - I'm privvy to the scary version of that that is reality, and I'm still basically un-phased by it. I don't have anything important enough to worry about: the secrecy of that data mining/data transit intercept/hacking capability is worth way more than any of my data, and if I had more valuable stuff I'd encrypt it myself anyway.
thopkins22
09-09-14, 23:35
As has been said, those who read specs and assume that Apple is lagging are missing 99% of the picture. The hardware that comes is solid enough to last you for years, built in such a way to last for years, and actually works and integrates in a way that is superior on another level. Are they innovating? Not in the "look at this processor" sense...but they're definitely taking what's available and making it better.
And as to that Android in 2012 thing...well half of that's not really true.
Cameras? The best professional full frame DSLR cameras in the world have fewer MP's than the cameras at the bottom of the same manufacturers lines. Megapixels aren't everything, and if they aren't done right, can actually lead to poor images.
MountainRaven
09-10-14, 02:12
Alls I know is that my first smart phone was an Android. By the time I was due for an upgrade, I hated the thing. Got an iPhone 4whatever and have been quite happy. The only thing keeping me from upgrading is that there's frankly nothing wrong with my iPhone. But I might get a 6. I'm overdue for an upgrade, anyway.
I used to be this way, and then I actually started thinking for myself. Apple stuff....works. And the way it works together is so superior to everything else I've tried. My phone, my laptop, my home computer...they all exist together as though they're meant to.
Exactly. Many people don't give a crap about Android, or even like it. They just hate Apple and spout the anti-Apple party line. It isn't "Android is a better mobile platform", it's "I hate Apple".
I have been Mac computer user since 1984. Anyone remember what happened that years? Yup, Macintosh. I've purchased and used every computer and gadget and gizmo that Apple has released. I'm not an "Apple hater" but a "Mac lover."
The iPhone was terrific when it first came out. Nothing else could touch it. It remains the gold standard in Smartphone technology.
But then I switched over to the Galaxy Android phone, as I said upstream, a couple years ago. Have never looked back.
My phone is an Android. My computers are all Macs.
I have been Mac computer user since 1984. Anyone remember what happened that years? Yup, Macintosh. I've purchased and used every computer and gadget and gizmo that Apple has released. I'm not an "Apple hater" but a "Mac lover."
The iPhone was terrific when it first came out. Nothing else could touch it. It remains the gold standard in Smartphone technology.
But then I switched over to the Galaxy Android phone, as I said upstream, a couple years ago. Have never looked back.
My phone is an Android. My computers are all Macs.
The only phone that impressed my that was non Mac based, Was the Samsung S5. But, being im all Mac based, I like how the Iphone integrates to well cross platform to my Mac stuff. How does the S5 play with the Mac?
One of the best phones I've ever had was the iPhone 3G. It was bulletproof and always worked after being dropped, thrown, etc. I've been having problems with my GS3 lately... software crashes, screen cracks, and hardware problems have me going back to the iPhone.
I love the Android UI more so than iOS, but I just can't get past the problems with Android. Apple products just plain work. All the time.
I run Apply computers in my home and business, but use the Galaxy S5 for my phone. I have been a long time Apple Iphone user, but made the jump.
I like the robust and quality of the Apple computers, but think there are better phone options out there (based off my Iphone 4 and 5 experience).
C4
What do you like about the S5 vs the Iphone 5? Did you have a 5 or 5S? How about the compatibility of the S5 with your comps using ITunes etc? Any issues?
Apple screens are FAR superior to anything that has ever been put into a Nexus.
LOL. The N5 has a fantastic display and it's two generations removed from the last Super AMOLED Nexus which is probably the technology that you have a problem with.
Widgets are overrated in my experience. Maybe they are better now but I don't miss them a single bit as far as the Android implementation.
Personal preference.
3rd party keyboards are cool but again Apple did it right, and there won't be an opportunity for a 3rd party app to steal passwords or keylog your phone as is possible on Android.
I'm not concerned about that with my 3rd party keyboard.
I'd dare someone to dip a G3 or M8 into water.
No mention of the GS5, the most popular current gen Android phone. Intentional or oversight?
Wireless charging is lame. How do you use your phone while its charging?
You do realize you aren't locked in to wireless charging, right? Works great for nightstand/desk use, and oh by the way Android devices actually do work away from chargers. It's not 2010 anymore.
Don't need multi user support. One person uses my phone, and thats me.
No argument there.
Default apps would be welcome.
I didn't know Apple didn't have that. That needs to happen.
All this dick measuring stuff between platforms is kind of silly. The world is a better place when iOS and Android are both compelling.
Regarding apps...I don't understand, honestly. I've been using Android since 2010, and I've never had to factory reset anything because of malicious apps. Legitimate, quality apps will have high download counts and relatively high ratings.
Sapphire is actually more brittle than Gorilla Glass but is more scratch resistant. So you would get a screen that can shatter more easily but is unlikely to get scratched.
MP count is not everything when comparing a camera. iPhones generally have the best camera all around, and work just fine at 8MP for what smartphone cameras are used for. They are regularly reviewed as the best smart phone cameras.
I have a Time Warner Cable app on my phone that can change the channel, set DVR recordings, ect.
Poor battery life can be cause by a variety of things. The stock settings, and certain apps can cause more drain than others. I routinely get 9-10hrs out of my 5S.
iOS apps are generally better than Android apps. More money to be made developing for iOS, and the apps are actually easier to code for.
Per PC magazine:
"Apple unveiled a new 8-megapixel iSight camera with improved optics and larger pixels. The Galaxy S5's sensor packs in twice the resolution (16 megapixels), but as anyone will tell you, megapixels aren't everything here. Since the old iPhone 5s still manages to beat out the Galaxy S5's camera in some shootouts, any further improvement from Apple doesn't bode well for Samsung."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468213,00.asp
If it were a Mac based pub, one could claim bias. I don't see what motivations PC mag gas for siding with Mac on this, and that's seems a balanced review on the 6 vs S5 without actual testing of each.
To point in fact, MP are not very important to pic quality but sensor, optics, software, etc are. If one really needs more than 8mp with decent optics, etc, then one likely needed a real camera. I'd prefer Mac puts effort and tech into other areas than simply getting in the MP/spec war with other phones. I think it was the Nokia that claimed 40MP on their phone. LOL.
dennisuello
09-10-14, 10:07
The only phone that impressed my that was non Mac based, Was the Samsung S5. But, being im all Mac based, I like how the Iphone integrates to well cross platform to my Mac stuff. How does the S5 play with the Mac?
I've been using Macs for a long time, and had the original iPhone. But I've been using Android ever since original Google Nexus One (2010), and while back then it was important to have some kind of Mac <-> phone sync (and Android didn't play that well with Macs), these days everything gets synced through the cloud, I have all my data in a Google account and everything is in sync (email, contacts, google play music, notes, etc). I have access to all my documents through Google Drive, copy.com and dropbox accounts. In fact, I haven't touched my MacBook Pro in a while, there's only one desktop app that I still keep it around for, otherwise it's just phone and a tablet for me.
A lot of meh, I've had my 5 for a few weeks short of two years and I'm eligible for an upgrade.
I'm going to go get a 6, not particularly wowed by it. But I'm bored with my 5, its old, and for 200$ a 6 is worth it to me if it will last me another 2 years
Kewlz, you nailed one key part of it - bringing it to a large enough and vociferous enough pile of consumers to make that technology actually stick. I can't get past the irony that despite GoogleWallet being capable of doing the NFC Mobile Payment setup for years now, that that payment modality will only become commonplace enough to be relevant because it's finally available on an Apple product (and admittedly will stop feeling like a Beta version of that concept).
It's more of a business model concept that Apple relies very heavily on first party and very limited/selected third party development and fast-tracks innovation that fits their walled garden model and basically rejects everything else - because the consumer base is there Apple consumers get more polished versions of applications because more money can be made, but they aren't even necessarily the best implementation of that idea, simply the first one that works on the platform that is most profitable for developers AND apple.
Other than that, I'll just leave this here
http://i.imgur.com/3UBmFWT.jpg
Haha that's great! It's what I'm used to (since 2007) so I'll be sticking with it just for familiarity.
Service sucks at my place so I'm particularly intrigued by the VoLTE stuff...
I've been using Macs for a long time, and had the original iPhone. But I've been using Android ever since original Google Nexus One (2010), and while back then it was important to have some kind of Mac <-> phone sync (and Android didn't play that well with Macs), these days everything gets synced through the cloud, I have all my data in a Google account and everything is in sync (email, contacts, google play music, notes, etc). I have access to all my documents through Google Drive, copy.com and dropbox accounts. In fact, I haven't touched my MacBook Pro in a while, there's only one desktop app that I still keep it around for, otherwise it's just phone and a tablet for me.
Good intel, thanx. I'll keep that in mind for next upgrade.
Belmont31R
09-10-14, 11:08
I've had this capability through gVoice for a ludicrously long period of time - it's really janky by comparison and really only worth it because I could also use that to deny Verizon their asinine charges to use SMS on a phone with an EVDO internet connection, only remaining issue is the double alert mechanism (c'est la vie). Again, abuse google cloud and the rest of those capabilities have been there forever, just require excessive massaging to make it work. The watches really are going to exemplify that - the hardware differences are going to be inconsequentially small, but because Apple has the closed spec with the ecosystem of apps that work better because it's an entirely in-house platform, it'll run well enough to get adopted. Some features eventually get discarded as dumb, others are just low uptake (few people need multiple user profile - I need multiple on my phone because my wife owns an iPhone, and it's battery life is crap).
I can't hold the complete polished execution against Apple, they really do exceptionally at that and the marketing side of the house, but it still bothers me that they've never released versions with better battery life - this really sucks because me, being an idiot, got my wife an iPhone 5C - and the aftermarket took one look at the sales numbers and pointlessly different dimensions and decided that making battery cases for the 5C's isn't worth it (Mophie has been making the answer for crap iPhone battery life for a while now) - so now she owns a device that is essential for her work that can only make it through 12 hours of nonstop use without charging, and some of her shifts run longer than that; I don't have a good answer for that - at least Magpul made cases for the stupid things.
It's far from the android and other OS setups being unable to use the hardware features, it's just that the remainder of the market know that whatever standard is dominant those first couple years becomes irrelevant each time the iHerd 'discovers' a new features every moo-vember and goes out to buy the next generation of Apple stuff with that, and now that the expectation is there from past history, whatever market impetus there would have been to make effective use of new technologies instead becomes a fishbowl beta observation of dorks like me who will experiment, hack, and make stuff work for them and then Apple can roll out their fully incubated version of that idea, present it to imbeciles as 'new', and then let the market keep coming to them.
As far as the google data vacuum - I'm privvy to the scary version of that that is reality, and I'm still basically un-phased by it. I don't have anything important enough to worry about: the secrecy of that data mining/data transit intercept/hacking capability is worth way more than any of my data, and if I had more valuable stuff I'd encrypt it myself anyway.
I'm not sure why she'd need over 12hrs of battery life on a 12hr shift unless she is using the phone the entire time? Don't really understand that. The standby time is days long.
And yes Apple is not always the first to implement an idea but when they do it is well polished. There is some back and forth on "new" stuff to each platform. iMessage was around a lot longer than Hangouts became the default SMS/messaging app on Android. Now you can SMS message people through a Mac or iPad. Not the first to ever do that but the first to integrate it into the OS in a first party solution that works really well.
Google has a habit of launching things like Google Voice, and I've had a Google Voice number for years, then they pull support and leave people hanging. Like their RSS feed, and a number of other services they've had. Not that they're alone in that. Apple has had a few like MobileMe.
The 5C sells really well actually. Its been in the top 4 over the last year of American sales.
Belmont31R
09-10-14, 11:15
The only phone that impressed my that was non Mac based, Was the Samsung S5. But, being im all Mac based, I like how the Iphone integrates to well cross platform to my Mac stuff. How does the S5 play with the Mac?
It'll never come close to the cross device stuff Apple is doing. Like I mentioned...with OS X Yosemite, and iOS 8 you're going to be able to text people through iPads and Mac's. Plus stuff like starting a document on your Mac, and then pulling up right where you left off on an iPad or iPhone (and vice versa). iOS 8 will be released next week to the public, and Yosemite should get the public release in October. Im using the developer preview of Yosemite, and the public release version of iOS 8 was released to dev's yesterday.
I owned a GS3, and it didn't really do anything with a PC let alone a Mac. Samsung Kies was WAY worse than iTunes, and people give iTunes shit all the time. Theres some 3rd party apps for texting people from a PC through an Android but its not integrated in any way, and 3rd party stuff is not secure on Android. Windows phone doesn't have anything like iMessage let alone texting people from a PC using a Windows Phone device.
Belmont31R
09-10-14, 11:24
Per PC magazine:
"Apple unveiled a new 8-megapixel iSight camera with improved optics and larger pixels. The Galaxy S5's sensor packs in twice the resolution (16 megapixels), but as anyone will tell you, megapixels aren't everything here. Since the old iPhone 5s still manages to beat out the Galaxy S5's camera in some shootouts, any further improvement from Apple doesn't bode well for Samsung."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468213,00.asp
If it were a Mac based pub, one could claim bias. I don't see what motivations PC mag gas for siding with Mac on this, and that's seems a balanced review on the 6 vs S5 without actual testing of each.
To point in fact, MP are not very important to pic quality but sensor, optics, software, etc are. If one really needs more than 8mp with decent optics, etc, then one likely needed a real camera. I'd prefer Mac puts effort and tech into other areas than simply getting in the MP/spec war with other phones. I think it was the Nokia that claimed 40MP on their phone. LOL.
Thats the Lumia 1020, and its a pretty good camera. Has some limitations like actually storing an image that size, and its a square sensor. You don't get all of that 40 something megapixels in every image. If you take a standard aspect ratio picture with a square sensor, you're not using the entire sensor. Then, with the way they implement the images on that phone, unless you hook up a cord and manually pull the images off, they're sent off as something like 10MP images.
From the reviews Ive read, even though the higher end Nokia cameras have impressive specs, theres been issues with things like white balance even with manually adjusting the settings. iPhones work VERY well for just pulling out your phone and taking a picture. They're supposed to be simple to use and not have 40 different settings to **** with before you take a picture. Im not a photographer, and phone cameras have completely replaced every other camera we've had. 5-10 years ago everyone had a point and shoot with some DSLR's mixed in. Now the iPhone is the most popular camera in the world.
And not that other smartphone cameras suck. Just from my own experience, and reading a lot of reviews, iPhones are the best all around smart phone cameras available when you take things into account like image quality, ease of use, ect.
Lumia 1020 white balance problems: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lumia+1020+white+balance+problems
Duffelblog, of course, has a funny article on it
NSA Hails Apple’s New iPhone 6 And Smartwatch (http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/09/nsa-review-apple-watch-iphone-6/)
Regarding Apple v. World:
Went from Blackberry to iPhone to Android. Made the switch when I found I had to jailbreak the iPhone to get the features that I wanted. With Android, a lot of the extra functionality was available from the get-go. Apple makes a superior consumer device since there aren't nearly as many fractionated hardware issues across applications. If I were to buy a smartphone for my non-tech savvy father, I'd get him an iPhone. With most of my content purchased from Google at this point, I can't see making the jump back to Apple. There are still some Apple devices in the house (especially for my distance running) but most are Android/PC. Did it take more time to setup cross-platform stuff, such as my entertainment server? Yup.
I think the phrase, "I like Apple Products but don't like Apple People" applies.
Belmont31R
09-10-14, 15:36
Duffelblog, of course, has a funny article on it
NSA Hails Apple’s New iPhone 6 And Smartwatch (http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/09/nsa-review-apple-watch-iphone-6/)
Regarding Apple v. World:
Went from Blackberry to iPhone to Android. Made the switch when I found I had to jailbreak the iPhone to get the features that I wanted. With Android, a lot of the extra functionality was available from the get-go. Apple makes a superior consumer device since there aren't nearly as many fractionated hardware issues across applications. If I were to buy a smartphone for my non-tech savvy father, I'd get him an iPhone. With most of my content purchased from Google at this point, I can't see making the jump back to Apple. There are still some Apple devices in the house (especially for my distance running) but most are Android/PC. Did it take more time to setup cross-platform stuff, such as my entertainment server? Yup.
I think the phrase, "I like Apple Products but don't like Apple People" applies.
Google has apps on iOS now for their content. I get music from Google Play sometimes. Go over there and see whats free. Download it, and put it into iTunes. I have iTunes Match, so if its available on iTunes, I get the mp3 from Google automatically switched out for a higher bit rate AAC version (DRM free) from the iTunes Store. If not then it just keeps the mp3 version.
Regarding Apple v. World:
Went from Blackberry to iPhone to Android. Made the switch when I found I had to jailbreak the iPhone to get the features that I wanted.
That was a big reason I decided to try Android, I got tired of having to decide whether an iOS update was worth re-jailbreaking (if/when it was available,) and all just for one app: iBlacklist. At the time, it was the best call block/filter app around that I had tried. When I found there were some decent ones for Android, with no need to root, that was enough to give it a shot. (Pre-native call block/reject feature in Android.)
There was a day when cracking the Blackberry and jailbreaking the iPhone and tweaking them was fun, but now I just want simplicity right out of the box. Since so much of my daily life stuff talks to Apple gear better, it's just going to be less fuss right out of the box. I'm not going to miss all of the carrier-branded bloatware, either. (Assuming Apple still doesn't put that on the iPhones.) I'll be pricing everything out before I decide for sure, though. I also agree on the 'I like Apple products but don't like Apple people' thing, too. I like the stuff, but I'm not fanatical about it. I'll go with whatever suits my needs at the time.
I'm not sure why she'd need over 12hrs of battery life on a 12hr shift unless she is using the phone the entire time? Don't really understand that. The standby time is days long.
Some of the apps that are helpful enough to justify in a hospital setting need constant data or are battery hogs - its more of a case where it can't be used consecutive days, whereas I charge me phone once a week unless I'm spending hours using it nonstop, in which case I have to charge it biweekly. I don't mind limited battery life from a lithe package, but since there aren't any battery cases for the 5C out there, the net effect is that she comes back some days limping it home on battery life, and I understand enough about electrode physical dynamics to realize this will become problematic before our 2-year contract starts to run out, and unless an aftermarket option rolls out, she'll have a phone which requires a charger or active battery management to get through the day - the part that pisses me off is that the answer will be to just buy her an iPad 7" phablet.
The other part for me that is really a user preference deal - I can find the breakage points for any software system, somehow: I just have a gift for it. iOS breaks, Windows breaks, even Linux stable releases I can make them bug out, so it matters comparatively little for me that Android breaks or does dumb stuff incessantly, because I have that magical touch which makes iOS do similar things, so the 'it just works' doesn't apply to anything for me, hence my preference on just having better hardware for when it is cooperating.
montanadave
09-11-14, 19:04
I currently have a flip phone which is essentially a Gen 2 Jitterbug. These phones with screens and such are intriguing.
They're cordless, right?
Put that in your pipe and smoke it. (http://controversialtimes.com/news/apples-new-iphone-encryption-will-even-lock-out-the-police/)
On devices running iOS 8, your personal data such as photos, messages (including attachments), email, contacts, call history, iTunes content, notes, and reminders is placed under the protection of your passcode. Unlike our competitors, Apple cannot bypass your passcode and therefore cannot access this data. So it’s not technically feasible for us to respond to government warrants for the extraction of this data from devices in their possession running iOS 8.
Whiskey_Bravo
09-18-14, 10:25
Put that in your pipe and smoke it. (http://controversialtimes.com/news/apples-new-iphone-encryption-will-even-lock-out-the-police/)
Well that is a nice feature.
I manage about 30 lines (16 being Iphones) for our company plan. I plan our contract renewal (ATT) around the new-announcement date of new products - hence ATT will completely upgrade all our phones for free in order to get a renewal. This time (2 weeks ago) we replaced all our 4' for 5c's. So every two years we get new phones at no cost to us. I don't mine being a little behind the latest/greatest.
What I want to know is if anyone has yet loaded IOS 8 and seen any bugs.. I'm downloading it now....
Also: We didn't have SMS texting until now (only iphone-iphone txting). I get a txt message saying i'm hitting 5G of data and they are gonna throttle it (we have grandfathered unlimited data). I had never gotten that message before so I called ATT who said they have been throttling data for years, but since we didn't have full texting we hadn't gotten the message. Anybody comment on how/what data throttling does to them? To be clear, I hit 5G in about 10 days was watching MotoGP (well, listening really) while on road (NOT Porn :)
Whiskey_Bravo
09-18-14, 10:48
(NOT Porn :)
That's what they all say.
What I want to know is if anyone has yet loaded IOS 8 and seen any bugs.. I'm downloading it now....
I installed it yesterday. The only thing that I noticed so far was a glitch going from landscape to portrait mode. Sometimes it hangs up in landscape after changing its orientation.
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That's what they all say.
Only because watching porn while driving...might not work well for me :)
Belmont31R
09-18-14, 17:04
I manage about 30 lines (16 being Iphones) for our company plan. I plan our contract renewal (ATT) around the new-announcement date of new products - hence ATT will completely upgrade all our phones for free in order to get a renewal. This time (2 weeks ago) we replaced all our 4' for 5c's. So every two years we get new phones at no cost to us. I don't mine being a little behind the latest/greatest.
What I want to know is if anyone has yet loaded IOS 8 and seen any bugs.. I'm downloading it now....
Also: We didn't have SMS texting until now (only iphone-iphone txting). I get a txt message saying i'm hitting 5G of data and they are gonna throttle it (we have grandfathered unlimited data). I had never gotten that message before so I called ATT who said they have been throttling data for years, but since we didn't have full texting we hadn't gotten the message. Anybody comment on how/what data throttling does to them? To be clear, I hit 5G in about 10 days was watching MotoGP (well, listening really) while on road (NOT Porn :)
I've been using iOS 8 since Beta 2, and theres still a few bugs. Nothing major. More specific use case scenarios most people won't encounter. The UI is not fully polished. I'd also recommend NOT using iCloud Drive for at least another month. I'm using it but am also using OS X Yosemite beta.
For your phones go to settings>Messages>[TURN ON]Send as SMS
Throttling just means your data speeds are capped at a certain speed. Not sure what speed that is. Might just be 4G as opposed to LTE. 4G on AT&T is HSPA+ which is plenty fast for almost everything. 3G is still ok. Maybe not the best for streaming (more buffering) but not awful if you have a good signal.
iPhone 5C's are now 'free' on contract so you aren't really getting a special deal by upgrading that many lines. The 5S, which is a much better device hardware wise, is $99. 6 is $199, and 6 Plus is $299 (all base storage models).
Belmont31R
09-18-14, 17:04
I manage about 30 lines (16 being Iphones) for our company plan. I plan our contract renewal (ATT) around the new-announcement date of new products - hence ATT will completely upgrade all our phones for free in order to get a renewal. This time (2 weeks ago) we replaced all our 4' for 5c's. So every two years we get new phones at no cost to us. I don't mine being a little behind the latest/greatest.
What I want to know is if anyone has yet loaded IOS 8 and seen any bugs.. I'm downloading it now....
Also: We didn't have SMS texting until now (only iphone-iphone txting). I get a txt message saying i'm hitting 5G of data and they are gonna throttle it (we have grandfathered unlimited data). I had never gotten that message before so I called ATT who said they have been throttling data for years, but since we didn't have full texting we hadn't gotten the message. Anybody comment on how/what data throttling does to them? To be clear, I hit 5G in about 10 days was watching MotoGP (well, listening really) while on road (NOT Porn :)
I've been using iOS 8 since Beta 2, and theres still a few bugs. Nothing major. More specific use case scenarios most people won't encounter. The UI is not fully polished. I'd also recommend NOT using iCloud Drive for at least another month. I'm using it but am also using OS X Yosemite beta.
For your phones go to settings>Messages>[TURN ON]Send as SMS
Throttling just means your data speeds are capped at a certain speed. Not sure what speed that is. Might just be 4G as opposed to LTE. 4G on AT&T is HSPA+ which is plenty fast for almost everything. 3G is still ok. Maybe not the best for streaming (more buffering) but not awful if you have a good signal.
iPhone 5C's are now 'free' on contract so you aren't really getting a special deal by upgrading that many lines. The 5S, which is a much better device hardware wise, is $99. 6 is $199, and 6 Plus is $299 (all base storage models).
Is there any way with 8.0 to see all of your photos, not separated into years? So far I hate the way it handles photos
I manage about 30 lines (16 being Iphones) for our company plan. I plan our contract renewal (ATT) around the new-announcement date of new products - hence ATT will completely upgrade all our phones for free in order to get a renewal. This time (2 weeks ago) we replaced all our 4' for 5c's. So every two years we get new phones at no cost to us. I don't mine being a little behind the latest/greatest.
What I want to know is if anyone has yet loaded IOS 8 and seen any bugs.. I'm downloading it now....
Also: We didn't have SMS texting until now (only iphone-iphone txting). I get a txt message saying i'm hitting 5G of data and they are gonna throttle it (we have grandfathered unlimited data). I had never gotten that message before so I called ATT who said they have been throttling data for years, but since we didn't have full texting we hadn't gotten the message. Anybody comment on how/what data throttling does to them? To be clear, I hit 5G in about 10 days was watching MotoGP (well, listening really) while on road (NOT Porn :)
That's pretty much the program I follow too, and plan to get a 5C or spend a few for a 5S from my 4S on a new contract on a plan I have had forever they don't even offer any more.
Is there any way with 8.0 to see all of your photos, not separated into years? So far I hate the way it handles photos
In for answer as I have not figured it out.
Like my iPhone 6 though, got it this am after lines were gone around 10am.
steyrman13
09-19-14, 16:13
Is there any way with 8.0 to see all of your photos, not separated into years? So far I hate the way it handles photos
In for answer as I have not figured it out.
Like my iPhone 6 though, got it this am after lines were gone around 10am.
Can you not click on albums and then camera role, or created album, or itunes albums like with ios7?
Can you not click on albums and then camera role, or created album, or itunes albums like with ios7?
Albums no longer has CameraRoll, it has RecentlyAdded which only has the last couple of days.
steyrman13
09-19-14, 16:20
Albums no longer has CameraRoll, it has RecentlyAdded which only has the last couple of days.
Dang. That's a fail IMHO. I'm debating on switching to the S5 or 6/6+. That's one more thing to push me to the s5
SpeedRacer
09-19-14, 20:31
I updated my 5 to iOS 8 yesterday. Love the new features (particularly email and messaging related) but so far it's been glitchy as hell and hangs up often especially when using the FB app. My battery life also seems to have gone from bad to terrible. And yeah the photo album "upgrade" I'm not a fan of.
Overall I dig it and many things that are important to me have been improved. I'd recommend waiting a while for the next update for anyone that hasn't upgraded yet.
steyrman13
09-19-14, 20:54
Dang. That's a fail IMHO. I'm debating on switching to the S5 or 6/6+. That's one more thing to push me to the s5
I updated to see. It seems the recent should do for now so far. I like a few of the features, but I still think Apple is behind on the technology released comparing to the S5.
Belmont31R
09-20-14, 02:34
Photos inside the Photos app is the new camera roll. You can still use 'recently added' as a camera roll since all new photos you take will be in there.
iCloud is being expanded to be "iCloud Drive" so its like having OneDrive or Dropbox integrated into the photos app. If you have a Mac, when OS X Yosemite is released, you'll have an iCloud Drive folder within Finder, and you can use iPhoto for now until the new Photos app on Mac launches. If you have a Windows box the iCloud Drive tool is already available.
You can turn off any sort of cloud streaming, and keep all of it local if you want to. Or use another app like OneDrive to cloud upload your photos.
This new method eliminates some redundancies, and integrates iCloud into the photos app.
Im not 100% in love with iCloud Drive but theres some changes here that aren't all that bad.
Belmont31R
09-20-14, 02:37
I updated my 5 to iOS 8 yesterday. Love the new features (particularly email and messaging related) but so far it's been glitchy as hell and hangs up often especially when using the FB app. My battery life also seems to have gone from bad to terrible. And yeah the photo album "upgrade" I'm not a fan of.
Overall I dig it and many things that are important to me have been improved. I'd recommend waiting a while for the next update for anyone that hasn't upgraded yet.
The FB app has not been updated to iOS 8 that Im aware of. With new screen sizes, and a new OS, expect some time before MOST apps are updated to fully support both.
Theres some things you can do to improve battery life over the stock settings. Do you have background app refresh on? Did you turn off most the location services settings? FB is a known battery killer. Do you have a lot of messaging apps?
Photos inside the Photos app is the new camera roll. You can still use 'recently added' as a camera roll since all new photos you take will be in there.
iCloud is being expanded to be "iCloud Drive" so its like having OneDrive or Dropbox integrated into the photos app. If you have a Mac, when OS X Yosemite is released, you'll have an iCloud Drive folder within Finder, and you can use iPhoto for now until the new Photos app on Mac launches. If you have a Windows box the iCloud Drive tool is already available.
You can turn off any sort of cloud streaming, and keep all of it local if you want to. Or use another app like OneDrive to cloud upload your photos.
This new method eliminates some redundancies, and integrates iCloud into the photos app.
Im not 100% in love with iCloud Drive but theres some changes here that aren't all that bad.
It still sucks that they destroyed the most useful photo storing mode. Having more options is great, but eliminating the ability to quickly scroll through a large number of photos does not seem like a good call
I can't imagine that iPhone watch won't get all scratched/dinged up with any kind of normal use. I'm definitely happy here to let the early adopters be the beta testers for Apple.
SpeedRacer
09-20-14, 08:36
The FB app has not been updated to iOS 8 that Im aware of. With new screen sizes, and a new OS, expect some time before MOST apps are updated to fully support both.
Theres some things you can do to improve battery life over the stock settings. Do you have background app refresh on? Did you turn off most the location services settings? FB is a known battery killer. Do you have a lot of messaging apps?
Yeah I assume it's more of an app problem, was simply mentioning it as a further reason to wait a bit before upgrading. Which is the advice I always give other people right before I cave in to my New Apple Stuff addiction and fail to heed my own advice. :D
Yeah, I always immediately turn off all battery draining settings. I'm also OCD about closing apps running in the background. I did find out last week that my 5 falls under the recent battery recall, so I knew I was shooting myself in the foot by updating. I'm eligible for upgrade so I'll be getting a 6 soon anyway just waiting about a month to make sure no issues present themselves with the first batch.
thopkins22
09-20-14, 10:38
I can't imagine that iPhone watch won't get all scratched/dinged up with any kind of normal use. I'm definitely happy here to let the early adopters be the beta testers for Apple.
It's the same stuff that nice watches use for the crystal of a nice watch...so probably not. ;)
Frankly gorilla glass doesn't scratch very easily either...my iPhone sits in my pocket with keys, flashlights, pocket knives, and so forth and doesn't get scratched up.
Eurodriver
09-20-14, 10:42
Just updated my iOS to 8 and I hate the photo feature as well. Bastards.
Can one take the iPhone 6 , hook it to an Apple laptop and use its larger monitor and keyboard to surf the web for home use ?
thopkins22
09-20-14, 11:37
Can one take the iPhone 6 , hook it to an Apple laptop and use its larger monitor and keyboard to surf the web for home use ?
It depends on your internet plan...but you've been able to tether the internet service via wifi to anything that has wifi ever since the 4.
Can one take the iPhone 6 , hook it to an Apple laptop and use its larger monitor and keyboard to surf the web for home use ?
Yes that is tethering or personal hotspot depending upon what you want to call it.
Belmont31R
09-21-14, 00:21
Can one take the iPhone 6 , hook it to an Apple laptop and use its larger monitor and keyboard to surf the web for home use ?
You don't even need to hook it up with a cable. The phone will broadcast a wifi signal like a mini WAN and you can hook it up to most anything that uses wifi.
Your data usage is up to you, and whatever cell plan you have. I use my hotspot sometimes but not on a regular basis. Between work, school, and home plus most other places I frequent wifi is available so its more like stuck in my car somewhere for something and Ill use it then.
Belmont31R
09-21-14, 00:24
Yeah I assume it's more of an app problem, was simply mentioning it as a further reason to wait a bit before upgrading. Which is the advice I always give other people right before I cave in to my New Apple Stuff addiction and fail to heed my own advice. :D
Yeah, I always immediately turn off all battery draining settings. I'm also OCD about closing apps running in the background. I did find out last week that my 5 falls under the recent battery recall, so I knew I was shooting myself in the foot by updating. I'm eligible for upgrade so I'll be getting a 6 soon anyway just waiting about a month to make sure no issues present themselves with the first batch.
Got a 128GB 6 today. Love it! Ive used phones with larger screens, and thats the direction I wanted Apple to go. That and a rounded body. Im a bit disappointed with 1GB RAM (still), and no OIS on the 6, but its still the best iPhone by far.
montanadave
09-21-14, 16:11
Well, sports fans, I bit the bullet and ordered an iPhone 6+ today. The flip phone is getting retired. Where's a good website to teach me how to use this newfangled gizmo (and protect me from doing something stupid with it)?
MountainRaven
09-21-14, 16:33
Well, sports fans, I bit the bullet and ordered an iPhone 6+ today. The flip phone is getting retired. Where's a good website to teach me how to use this newfangled gizmo (and protect me from doing something stupid with it)?
Pretty hard to screw it up if it's anything like my iPhone 4-whatever. Pretty intuitive, too. I'd say just use it: You'll figure it out. If there's anything specific you need help with, I'm sure we can help you on this forum.
I have an iphone 5, wife just got a iphone 6. ios 8 is having issues with bluetooth. This both on the iphone 5 updated and new iphone 6. I'm guessing it maybe because it's bluetooth v3.0 and may not be backwards compatible with V2.0. Our Outlander audio is bluetooth v2.0. I deleted the pairing data both phones from the vehicle. Neither will pair. I've found other similar posts on this issue. Just a heads up.
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I have an iphone 5, wife just got a iphone 6. ios 8 is having issues with bluetooth. This both on the iphone 5 updated and new iphone 6. I'm guessing it maybe because it's bluetooth v3.0 and may not be backwards compatible with V2.0. Our Outlander audio is bluetooth v2.0. I deleted the pairing data both phones from the vehicle. Neither will pair. I've found other similar posts on this issue. Just a heads up.
Interesting. I have an updated 5S and didn't experience any Bluetooth issues with my truck. It stayed paired & still links up every time. I'll keep an eye out for any problems though. Thanks for the heads up.
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My iPhone5/ios8 paired fine with my Alpine Head unit, and my Bose Wireless Speakers, as did my iPhone6/ios8.
Sorry guys, missed a step while pairing. Long day, they both paired fine.
A Magpul case would sure be welcomed for these..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGxlm82hWDM
steyrman13
09-22-14, 12:26
Still no option to close all apps at once like android?!
Belmont31R
09-22-14, 12:50
Still no option to close all apps at once like android?!
Its detrimental in the long run to force close apps for no reason. You're better off limiting background refresh or turning it off entirely, and turning most of the location services off. Pretty much the only reason to force close an app is if the app freezes or encounters some other reliability issue.
I was really hoping that they'd get rid of the album art BS when the music app is in landscape mode and also add a period & comma to the main keyboard layout. That's been my biggest gripe since I made the leap from Android.
Oh yeah, I also really miss the text reflow that Android was capable of. Not sure why Apple refuses to add that.
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Belmont31R
09-22-14, 13:02
I was really hoping that they'd get rid of the album art BS when the music app is in landscape mode and also add a period & comma to the main keyboard layout. That's been my biggest gripe since I made the leap from Android.
Oh yeah, I also really miss the text reflow that Android was capable of. Not sure why Apple refuses to add that.
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With the iPhone 6 you get a period and comma with the keyboard in landscape mode. Plus other stuff. The 6 Plus has even more options in landscape like cut, copy, paste, ect.
With the iPhone 6 you get a period and comma with the keyboard in landscape mode. Plus other stuff. The 6 Plus has even more options in landscape like cut, copy, paste, ect.
Unfortunately, I don't care for the size of the iPhone 6. The only reason I switched to iOS from Android was because my carrier didn't offer "small" Android smartphones anymore. I handled the 5s and loved the size enough to switch. I'll be holding onto my 5s until it breaks or till the trend towards obnoxiously sized phones disappears.
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http://www.dailydot.com/technology/iphone-6-plus-bent-with-bare-hands/?fb=dd
Big screen and thin body arent always a good combo. Lets just say the iphone 6 plus is very... flexible ;)
Belmont31R
09-23-14, 23:26
http://www.dailydot.com/technology/iphone-6-plus-bent-with-bare-hands/?fb=dd
Big screen and thin body arent always a good combo. Lets just say the iphone 6 plus is very... flexible ;)
The same thing happens every year when Apple releases a new phone. People have bent iPads, too. Somehow the millions of other people manage not to ruin their phones or iPads by sitting on them or whatever else they are doing to cause this.
And thats not to say its the most durable or damage proof device out there. Far from it. But people treat their expensive products like crap, and then wonder why they can't sit on them or throw them around and not get damaged. I've been using iPhones since the 3G, and the most damage I've been able to do to one was a nick along the bezel. That with rarely using a case.
You can give someone a steel ball bearing, and they'll manage to **** it up somehow. Here we have a few cases of bent phones, and they sold 4 million of them just in the first 24 hours of pre orders. Not to mention millions more through carriers, and in person sales. A few jackasses sit on them, or intentionally destroy them, and suddenly its a whole new made up saga in the long line of conspiracies about how the new iPhone is a failure.
The iPhone 4, and 4S had a stainless steel band around it, and people managed to bend those, too.
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/25/apple-testing-facility-detailed/
Apple has allowed CNBC and The Verge into its testing facility to detail the exhaustive durability testing the 6 and Pluses have gone through. According to the article, if you have a bent iPhone that wasn't obviously damaged on purpose then you should be able to get it replaced under warranty.
steyrman13
09-27-14, 12:03
iOS 8- 8.0.2 sucks. It's so buggy on a iohone5. Facebook app doesn't work worth a flip and contacts and messages will start opening or calling/typing on its own or freezing up. After a longer period on airplane mode, such as a flight, it requires a reboot to get cell/data service back. I wish i could go back to iOS 7.
Steve Jobs can not be replaced....that much is for sure.
JBecker 72
09-27-14, 12:10
You can go back to IOS7. There are plenty of write ups on how to do it. ^^
I haven't had any issues with 8.0.2 on my iPhone 6.
steyrman13
09-27-14, 12:11
You can go back to IOS7. There are plenty of write ups on how to do it. ^^
I haven't had any issues with 8.0.2 on my iPhone 6.
I was trying last night but it appears that it isn't supported so iTunes denies it now. At least it did for me with 2 different downloads.
I've been a MAC/Apple guy since 1986.
I moved over to Android and do NOT regret it, for a moment.
JBecker 72
09-27-14, 12:41
I was trying last night but it appears that it isn't supported so iTunes denies it now. At least it did for me with 2 different downloads.
Interesting. Maybe they made it so you can't go back now. My fiance is running 8.0.2 on her 5C and I don't think she is having any issue.
Belmont31R
09-27-14, 13:36
iOS 8- 8.0.2 sucks. It's so buggy on a iohone5. Facebook app doesn't work worth a flip and contacts and messages will start opening or calling/typing on its own or freezing up. After a longer period on airplane mode, such as a flight, it requires a reboot to get cell/data service back. I wish i could go back to iOS 7.
How did you install it? Through the phone? Or iTunes?
Belmont31R
09-27-14, 13:36
iOS 7 is not being signed by Apple anymore. Only devices like the iPhone 4 which were on 7, and are not getting 8 can still download and install 7.
This week I made the move back to iPhone after a stint with Android. Not to the 6 or 6+, though, but to the iPhone 5S. Having big hands I thought I would like the bigger phones (Note 2) but it was more hassle than it was useful for my needs. After handling a 6 on Monday, I realized I wanted my phone to be even smaller. The 5S fits in my pockets easier, as well as my car's cubby, and it's much easier for me to work it with one hand. First time I've ever 'gone backwards' to upgrade...
Also: I updated to 8.0.0 after unboxing, then to 8.0.2 (literally < 30 minutes later when they dropped the update, lol) and no problems so far. Facebook works great, texting, calls, pairing with my car, and other apps.
Updated my 5S to 8.0.2. As well as my home and work iPads. Wife's too. All are working fine.
steyrman13
09-27-14, 14:30
How did you install it? Through the phone? Or iTunes?
I used iTunes. I see others on searching with the same issues I'm having, but not everyone. It seems to be more 4s and 5 rather than 5s or 6 users
Belmont31R
09-27-14, 14:43
I used iTunes. I see others on searching with the same issues I'm having, but not everyone. It seems to be more 4s and 5 rather than 5s or 6 users
I checked the app and it doesn't say anything about being updated for iOS 8. Have you tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it?
My wife has always complained about the Facebook app. She has problems with it on her 5S. She tries to show me something like a video, and all the sudden it won't play. Stuff like that. Its never been that great of an app.
Belmont31R
09-27-14, 14:50
This week I made the move back to iPhone after a stint with Android. Not to the 6 or 6+, though, but to the iPhone 5S. Having big hands I thought I would like the bigger phones (Note 2) but it was more hassle than it was useful for my needs. After handling a 6 on Monday, I realized I wanted my phone to be even smaller. The 5S fits in my pockets easier, as well as my car's cubby, and it's much easier for me to work it with one hand. First time I've ever 'gone backwards' to upgrade...
Also: I updated to 8.0.0 after unboxing, then to 8.0.2 (literally < 30 minutes later when they dropped the update, lol) and no problems so far. Facebook works great, texting, calls, pairing with my car, and other apps.
A lot of people don't give the 4" (or other smaller sizes) enough credit. Big screens are great for games, videos, etc, but the 5S is a great phone for what you describe. I have to use my phone while driving (Google maps), and the 5S is great for one handed use. I have a 6 now, and its not as easy to use in some situations.
My wife is happy to keep her 5S even though she could get a new 6. Not even really missing that much yet. Going to take months and months for a lot of apps to get updated to the new sizes instead of just being blown up in size, and for devs to take advantage of the new API's in iOS 8.
One good update so far is Weather Underground. Can tweak things pretty nice, and the pull down menu widget(s) are pretty sweet. You get one for the current weather with a graph, and another for the radar. I liked the app a lot before, and replaced my previous weather app around a year ago. Now they just need to get the new screen sizes done, and it will be the best weather app by far. I had previously used the paid Weather Channel app, and they abandoned it in favor of their free ad filled version. Theres so many ads in the free version now I've counted 9 on the main screen before.
This week I made the move back to iPhone after a stint with Android. Not to the 6 or 6+, though, but to the iPhone 5S. Having big hands I thought I would like the bigger phones (Note 2) but it was more hassle than it was useful for my needs. After handling a 6 on Monday, I realized I wanted my phone to be even smaller. The 5S fits in my pockets easier, as well as my car's cubby, and it's much easier for me to work it with one hand. First time I've ever 'gone backwards' to upgrade...
Also: I updated to 8.0.0 after unboxing, then to 8.0.2 (literally < 30 minutes later when they dropped the update, lol) and no problems so far. Facebook works great, texting, calls, pairing with my car, and other apps.
I have big hands too. The Note II was fun but with the Otterbox Commuter on it was too big for my uniform shirt pocket. I had the Defender first and it was FREAKING HUGE. I have a Nokia Lumia Icon now and at 5 inches the screen is perfect for me. I want the screen size more for my eyes. The 5's are too small for me to see the screen comfortably.
I updated my iPad2 to IOS8.2 and it crapped out on me. I will wait a few days to see if a fix shows up before doing a factory restore. I have only part of it backed up. I'd hate to loose my photos and videos. I have checked the Apple web page and see it is a common issue. I am going to wait to get my hands on a 6 Plus to see if it is going to get me to switch to an iPhone. I have been an android guy for a long time.
http://www.dailydot.com/technology/iphone-6-plus-bent-with-bare-hands/?fb=dd
Big screen and thin body arent always a good combo. Lets just say the iphone 6 plus is very... flexible ;)
Here's a review of the opinion from Consumer Reports http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/26/consumer-reports-iphone6-bend-test/
and here's the actual report http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6-bendgate/index.htm
The results showed that the 6 Plus was actually stronger than the iPhone 6, starting to deform at 90 pounds of force and having its screen and case separate at 110 pounds of force. The iPhone 6 started to deform at 70 pounds of force and started coming apart at 100 pounds of force. The HTC One (m8) performed the worst in Consumer Reports' test, deforming at 70 pounds of force and coming apart at 90 pounds of force.
Overall, the magazine notes that while none of the phones they tested were indestructible, all devices tested should hold up fine under everyday use.
Another tempest in a teapot.
I have big hands too. The Note II was fun but with the Otterbox Commuter on it was too big for my uniform shirt pocket. I had the Defender first and it was FREAKING HUGE. I have a Nokia Lumia Icon now and at 5 inches the screen is perfect for me. I want the screen size more for my eyes. The 5's are too small for me to see the screen comfortably.
I updated my iPad2 to IOS8.2 and it crapped out on me. I will wait a few days to see if a fix shows up before doing a factory restore. I have only part of it backed up. I'd hate to loose my photos and videos. I have checked the Apple web page and see it is a common issue. I am going to wait to get my hands on a 6 Plus to see if it is going to get me to switch to an iPhone. I have been an android guy for a long time.
I had the Defender for my Note 2, too. I only used it when I knew I would be crawling on the ground or being out in the weather, it was just too big for any other times I needed to use the phone. The Lifeproof case on the 5S still keeps it small enough. My wife has the Lifeproof for her Galaxy S3, it's not too bad on the size with it on. That was another problem with the Note 2: Too few accessory options.
I have an iPd 2, it took the update with no problem over wifi. When I upgraded my phone from 7 to 8, the phone bricked (well, stuck in recovery mode and failed to update) using iTunes. I had an error 17, and the solution was (an easy to follow) Apple support article on going in to Terminal and doing a little file editing. Basically I added a # in front of the service host IP address, and it worked after that.
Belmont31R
09-28-14, 13:58
Heres why I'll most likely always use iPhones. I got a 6 from AT&T, and decided I'd rather just buy a Verizon model 6 in a different color from Apple as a device only purchase. The Verizon model is unlocked, and has the CDMA and GSM radios. AT&T is GSM so you can use the Verizon model with AT&T since it still has all the same GSM bands as the AT&T model. They are the same model number but the Verizon model has (CDMA) in the description while the AT&T model has (GSM) listed. Im not sure if all the a1459 models have both CDMA and GSM radios or not. Anyways if they don't, buying the Verizon model will 100% allow me to use it on any GSM carrier and Verizon which is CDMA.
Anyways after buying the Verizon model outright at the Apple Store I came back home, and was cleaning the AT&T phone I still had which I planned to return. While cleaning it I dropped the phone onto our tile kitchen floor. Shattered the screen. My heart sank, and this was the first time Ive ever seriously damaged a phone before. I scheduled an appointment at the Apple Store expecting a hefty fee to get the screen replaced or a device swap which is $299. I don't even know if they are doing screen swaps yet. Definitely not the Apple Store itself but they might be able to send them to depot to be fixed. Instead the young lady who helped me swapped the phone out free of charge, and the entire process took about 8 minutes. Awesome sauce. Second time Apple has replaced a phone we broke free of charge. The first time was when my wife accidentally sent her 4 through the washing machine, and it was DOA. Gave her a new phone and told her not to wash this one.
I also took my MacBook Pro in at the same time because there was a slight squeak coming from the bottom right of the case when being handled. I had a separate appointment for that scheduled at the same time as the broken phone. So I had two people helping me. Fixed my computer in about 10 minutes. Just a little internal clip that had come loose. They did a full diagnostic on it just to make sure everything else was good.
So including a 10 minute wait, I had a phone I broke replaced free of charge, and got my computer squeak taken care of in 20 minutes from start to finish. Won't find that level of service with any other consumer electronics company. Not even close. And it didn't cost me anything but my time. So when people complain about a real or perceived price difference between them and the competition this is part of it. You'll get great service you just don't find with anyone else. The ability to visit a store which can fix almost any issue, and has great CS like replacing a phone I broke free of charge is a benefit of owning Apple products you can't get with anyone else. I wouldn't expect a free replacement every time in a situation like this but it's not exactly rare, either, for them to replace stuff in a pretty liberal fashion.
I have an iPd 2, it took the update with no problem over wifi. When I upgraded my phone from 7 to 8, the phone bricked (well, stuck in recovery mode and failed to update) using iTunes. I had an error 17, and the solution was (an easy to follow) Apple support article on going in to Terminal and doing a little file editing. Basically I added a # in front of the service host IP address, and it worked after that.
How do I get into Terminal?
I traded my other phone for an iPhone 6 on Friday. managed to get the last Space Gray model in the area. I had been going back and forth between the 6 and 6 plus and can say that I am very happy with the 6. It is small enough to still use as a phone. I have large but not huge hands and these 5.5 inch phones are just too big to be comfortable to use as an actual phone. To me 5 inch phones are the sweet spot. So I would like to see a 5 inch 1080p version of the 6 but honestly the 4.7 is great.
I think a lot of people, myself included, have lost sight of what a phone is actually primarily supposed to do. Namely make calls. I spend a LOT of time on the phone all day. And holding anything much larger just isn't feasible for long periods of time.
Overall though the 6 is a great phone. Stupid fast, especially when you consider it is beating android phones performance wise with far lower "specs".
montanadave
10-05-14, 14:05
I'm waiting on my iPhone 6 Plus, which (as previously noted) will be my first smartphone. It's going to be my com center when I'm at the ranch. So what's the best case to protect my investment from drops, dirt, dunks in the pond, etc.? I like Otterbox stuff but I'm open to suggestions.
otter box are nice I have one don't use it all the time ?
downside thick enough on the 5 the outside keyboard characters are hard to hit since the edge is so tall ? but its nice cause it does not slide around cause of the silicone material n the outer case
the upside is protects the phone really well meaning the screen is always a bit away from the edges etc...
but I do think they offer the best protection including basic weather resistant covers over the ports
I also like the non glare screens that have some protection ? forgot the name armor shield or something the anti glare is nice when outdoors big time !!!! I hate glossy screens
other than that insurance for a few bucks a month on the plan to protect from human failures
I'm waiting on my iPhone 6 Plus, which (as previously noted) will be my first smartphone. It's going to be my com center when I'm at the ranch. So what's the best case to protect my investment from drops, dirt, dunks in the pond, etc.? I like Otterbox stuff but I'm open to suggestions.
Otterbox and lifeproof are my suggestions for full on protection.
Also the Applecare+ protects against damages. There is a cost to replace but it is only around 75 bucks compared to the cost of a whole new phone.
Belmont31R
10-05-14, 22:58
I have AppleCare +. Cheaper than the 6.99 a month AT&T wants for insurance over a 2 year contract, and cheaper deductible. Also, AT&T isn't using factory refurbished phones. 3rd party, and may be hit or miss.
As far as cases Ive never used anything meant to get wet or dropped. My wife tried an Otterbox, and it was awful. Terrible ergo's, and they add so much bulk its comical. Life proof is owned by Otterbox now but if I was going to get something in that class Lifeproof would be it.
I am using the Apple silicone case for my 6, and like it a lot. No water protection, and some drop protection, but I'd rather take my chances with a minimal case than carry around a giant Otterbox cased phone.
How do I get into Terminal?
If you are using a Mac, go in to the Apps folder, then to Utilities folder. http://support.apple.com/kb/ts4451
If you are using Windows, this is the support link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972034
This is only the key if the problem is the hosts file. If you have other error codes, this page has more links: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3694
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