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"Without saying whether he would run or not, Paul replied, “I think the first executive order that I would issue would be to repeal all previous executive orders,” which really got the crowd pumped, Breitbart’s Matthew Boyle reported."
http://rare.us/story/rand-paul-tells-the-world-what-his-first-act-as-president-would-be-and-its-bold/
montanadave
09-12-14, 16:51
That's kind of the bureaucratic equivalent of declaring a national day of anarchy like The Purge.
Moose-Knuckle
09-12-14, 16:53
Sounds good to me, but it will never happen. He would get the John Kennedy treatment before ever given the chance.
That's kind of the bureaucratic equivalent of declaring a national day of anarchy like The Purge.
Not really. We would still have most of our laws. EOs generally are regulatory with regard to things like commerce. If they were Pope decrees we'd already be living in Obamaworld. Additionally EOs are generally things that wouldn't receive congressional approval so we'd be better off without most of them.
And if it in fact turned out we really needed a few, we could simply introduce those bills to Congress and ratify them into law. No need for the sky to fall or anything.
NCPatrolAR
09-12-14, 17:08
Could he even do that?
If this guy somehow gets the nomination, he will be the first President I've voted "FOR" since 1984.
I’m very serious that the biggest problem with President Obama is his usurpation of power, destroying the separation of powers and not believing there are any checks and balances and believing that the executive branch can do whatever it wants—and this is exemplified in immigration, Obamacare and more—but really it’s the most seriously destructive thing he’s doing to this country,” Paul said. “While Obamacare’s bad, Dodd-Frank is bad, immigration is bad, the problem is is he’s doing it in an unconstitutional way. You can see how the crowd really understands that. The problem is he’s acting like a legislature.
Could he even do that?
Seems to me if past Presidents can "regulate" something via an EO a current President could "unregulate" it in the same manner.
Could he even do that?
They're not laws, simply "instructions" to whatever agencies has authority on how federal laws should be "interpreted".
Heavy Metal
09-12-14, 18:22
Could he even do that?
Absolutely.
I'm telling you guys, his immigration epiphany is disturbing. He's falling back on that old Republican wive's tale that by instituting some kind of "reform" he will secure the Hispanic vote.
They're not going to vote Republican!!!
If this guy somehow gets the nomination, he will be the first President I've voted "FOR" since 1984.
My feelings as well, but alas, not only is he unelectable in the New United States Socialist Republic, he also stands less than a zero chance of winning the nomination.
The foundation of Huge Ass Government laid by both parties over the last 20+ years will take at least 40 to undo, assuming it is even possible.
How many Government employees are likely to vote themselves out of a job? Throw in all of the State sponsored employees and you can pretty much dismiss his chances without even going to other major blocks of voters.
NCPatrolAR
09-12-14, 18:41
Interesting.
Since he said that would be his first EO; wonder what the rest of his EOs would be?
I'm telling you guys, his immigration epiphany is disturbing. He's falling back on that old Republican wive's tale that by instituting some kind of "reform" he will secure the Hispanic vote.
They're not going to vote Republican!!!
I've got sad news for you, this is as conservative as Republicans get on the issue of immigration, especially the illegal variety. I agree with you 100% but Bush spent 8 years trying to get illegals amnestied via Mel Martinez. We as a society have simply gone so far left that most Republicans are now what would have been liberals decades ago.
I'm telling you guys, his immigration epiphany is disturbing. He's falling back on that old Republican wive's tale that by instituting some kind of "reform" he will secure the Hispanic vote.
They're not going to vote Republican!!!
The ones that come from socialist shitholes don't. Cubans love them some 'Merica, but that's not they're not turning a blind eye to those type of importations, not that any should be ignored. Remember Elian Gonzalez?
If this guy somehow gets the nomination, he will be the first President I've voted "FOR" since 1984.
Damn Steyr, you're way ahead of me. I skipped the President vote in the last 4. I try to vote for the person who believes in the Bill of Rights and has the best interests of the country at heart. Ain't seen one of those in a while!
Damn Steyr, you're way ahead of me. I skipped the President vote in the last 4. I try to vote for the person who believes in the Bill of Rights and has the best interests of the country at heart. Ain't seen one of those in a while!
Exactly the reason we have who we have in office today.
Sorry, but you can take principles only so far but pragmatism needs to kick in at some point or like we did for the last two elections get the worst of all possible alternatives.
Damn Steyr, you're way ahead of me. I skipped the President vote in the last 4. I try to vote for the person who believes in the Bill of Rights and has the best interests of the country at heart. Ain't seen one of those in a while!
He isn't talking about not voting. He's saying his vote has been used against somebody instead of for somebody. The lesser of two evils idea...
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That's kind of the bureaucratic equivalent of declaring a national day of anarchy like The Purge.
Bah, if only we'd be so lucky... Liberty is scary stuff lol.
And yes, I know want you meant. Just making a point.
Exactly the reason we have who we have in office today.
Sorry, but you can take principles only so far but pragmatism needs to kick in at some point or like we did for the last two elections get the worst of all possible alternatives.
I'd vote for Rand Paul but it's just why did he have to ruin pretty solid conservative values by this illegal immigration stance? It seems he has some of his old man's quirks about him.
I'd vote for Cruz > Paul though.
We as a society have simply gone so far left that most Republicans are now what would have been liberals decades ago.
That ain't no lie! Sadly.....
Interesting.
Since he said that would be his first EO; wonder what the rest of his EOs would be?
Considering he has a less than a zero chance of being elected president why even ask the question. REVOLUTION
They're not laws, simply "instructions" to whatever agencies has authority on how federal laws should be "interpreted".
You're correct regarding EOs being "instructions". However, the sad and pathetic fact is they ultimately do hold the power of law. Violate one of his agencies "regulations" and the state will hammer you. Resist, you die or are thrown in prison.
I'd vote for Rand Paul but it's just why did he have to ruin pretty solid conservative values by this illegal immigration stance? It seems he has some of his old man's quirks about him.
I'd vote for Cruz > Paul though.
I don't trust Cruz one bit. He's literally in bed with Goldman-Sachs. His wife is a major VP executive with the money manipulating POSs. The same Goldman-Sachs that is the major influence behind the derivatives market and Central Bank scam. The same Goldman-Sachs that literally was put in control of our Federal Reserve via past executives that went on to serve in various administrations. Clinton’s Secretary of Treasury Goldman Sachs’ Rubin, Bush’s Secretary of Treasury Goldman Sachs’ Hank Paulson, etc. Remember Paulson's famous "too big to fail" excuse for the bailouts?
Until a viable and truly independent third party can emerge, a vote for a Republican will just be more of the same-same with a different flavor. Sadly, I don't believe such an independent party will ever emerge under the current oligarchist system.
NCPatrolAR
09-13-14, 18:40
Considering he has a less than a zero chance of being elected president why even ask the question. REVOLUTION
The issue of possible hypocrisy
Alpha Sierra
09-13-14, 20:48
Could he even do that?
Yes. Absolutely yes.
How many alphabet soup agencies were created via an EO?
I don't trust Cruz one bit. He's literally in bed with Goldman-Sachs. His wife is a major VP executive with the money manipulating POSs. The same Goldman-Sachs that is the major influence behind the derivatives market and Central Bank scam. The same Goldman-Sachs that literally was put in control of our Federal Reserve via past executives that went on to serve in various administrations. Clinton’s Secretary of Treasury Goldman Sachs’ Rubin, Bush’s Secretary of Treasury Goldman Sachs’ Hank Paulson, etc. Remember Paulson's famous "too big to fail" excuse for the bailouts?
Until a viable and truly independent third party can emerge, a vote for a Republican will just be more of the same-same with a different flavor. Sadly, I don't believe such an independent party will ever emerge under the current oligarchist system.
Gotta be Debbie Downer don't ya? :D
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