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Slater
10-01-14, 15:01
From an article "back in the day". Those British engineers used some "outside the box" thinking to maximize weapons carriage on the Lightning fighter. I don't think this particular arrangement saw much (if any) use - or if it even sold.

The 1000 pound bombs were blown away from the racks by impulse cartridges, but delivery (I would imagine ) had to be a careful combination of airspeed and attitude.

I'm guessing that the average F-16, F-15, or A-10 pilot today would regard this setup with some alarm :D


http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1968/1968%20-%201766.html
Averageman
10-01-14, 15:10
Which Murphy designed that?
Reagans Rascals
10-01-14, 15:25
That's quite a complicated setup especially considering the Lightnings tremendous Speed, Climb Rate and Service Ceiling...

I prefer good ol' fashioned 'Merican ingenuity if I must say so myself....
http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t403/jwmassaro/Toiletbomb1_zps096433d8.jpg
El Cid
10-01-14, 16:01
Aside from the perils already mentioned, you would need some custom scaffolding and lifts to load/unload the ordnance and fuel tanks and the Munitions loaders would hate you. The closest thing to that I can think of in the U.S. military would be the fuselage mounted AIM-9's on F-8/A-7 platforms and maybe the landing gear door mounted AIM-7's on the ADV F-16.
VIP3R 237
10-01-14, 16:46
The sepecat jaguar had overwing aim-9's or magics.
nimdabew
10-01-14, 18:11
High angles of attack need a laminar airflow over the upper surface of the airfoil to prevent the airflow separating prematurely from the foil itself. If the mounts could simulate a VG kit, it could work... But then again, I am not an aeronautical engineer. I am just trying to pull stuff from aerodynamics from years ago.
Slater
10-02-14, 09:36
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss158/5757_photos/Jaguar20_zps6ebbfd7a.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/5757_photos/media/Jaguar20_zps6ebbfd7a.jpg.html)
Eurodriver
10-02-14, 11:35
That's quite a complicated setup especially considering the Lightnings tremendous Speed, Climb Rate and Service Ceiling...

I prefer good ol' fashioned 'Merican ingenuity if I must say so myself....
http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t403/jwmassaro/Toiletbomb1_zps096433d8.jpg

Ok. Why is there a toilet on the wing?
Averageman
10-02-14, 11:48
Ok. Why is there a toilet on the wing?

Shock and awe.
Whiskey_Bravo
10-02-14, 12:39
Shock and awe.

Extra points if someone dropped a deuce in it before they mounted it up.
agr1279
10-02-14, 17:53
That's quite a complicated setup especially considering the Lightnings tremendous Speed, Climb Rate and Service Ceiling...

I prefer good ol' fashioned 'Merican ingenuity if I must say so myself....
http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t403/jwmassaro/Toiletbomb1_zps096433d8.jpg

When they dropped that crapper it dang near took the tail off. The aerodynamics of a crapper is just that. Crap. You can go on line and read about it and how they got it past the airboss.

Dan


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3 AE
10-02-14, 18:00
Saw the thread title and these came to mind. Boy, was I way off, but hey, back in the day!

http://www.airpowerworld.info/ww1-fighter-planes/nieuport-17.htm

http://www.airpowerworld.info/ww1-fighter-planes/sopwith-camel-2f1.htm
3 AE
10-02-14, 18:11
Ok. Why is there a toilet on the wing?

And here's the rest of the story!

http://eugeneleeslover.com/Humor/Toilet_bomb.html
VIP3R 237
10-02-14, 21:29
And here's the rest of the story!

http://eugeneleeslover.com/Humor/Toilet_bomb.html

That was beyond epic.