View Full Version : First US child dies from enterovirus D68 (body count up to 5)
Moose-Knuckle
10-02-14, 04:33
http://news.yahoo.com/us-child-rhode-island-dies-enterovirus-d68-161110514.html
Thanks Obama!
As the "mystery virus" affected US school children I couldn't help but think of all the diseased illegal aliens he flew all over the country and refused to disclose their whereabouts, medical history, health records, etc.
In this country the vast majority of public and private schools require shot records. Not so for Obama's dream act illegals. States were/are forced to take in these third worlders and place them in public schools and no one can ask anything about them.
I think you may be right to the origins of this outbreak. The coincidence in timing is just to convenient to gnore.
SilverBullet432
10-02-14, 06:39
We have a case here in town, but can you prove this came from illegals? Saw nothing about it in the article, just that the child died of a combo of d68 and strep. I'm all for blaming obama, but this virus has been in the US since the 60's.
Eurodriver
10-02-14, 08:13
Okay. Obama caused this, and illegal immigrants are bringing it here.
You all are still sending your kids to school. You're still having illegal immigrants cut your grass.
Does anyone on this forum actually do anything other than complain?
Okay. Obama caused this, and illegal immigrants are bringing it here.
You all are still sending your kids to school. You're still having illegal immigrants cut your grass.
Does anyone on this forum actually do anything other than complain?
I don't have kids, and I don't hire immigrants to do anything for me.
I live in Rhode Island, same city as the hospital she died in. I'm certainly not excited about this.
My girlfriend also works in a school here, luckily its a private school.
Eurodriver
10-02-14, 12:43
I don't have kids, and I don't hire immigrants to do anything for me.
I live in Rhode Island, same city as the hospital she died in. I'm certainly not excited about this.
My girlfriend also works in a school here, luckily its a private school.
My post wasn't meant to be taken literally nor was it meant to be derogatory. I just feel that if we spent half as much energy into doing something instead of bitching we would be much better off.
Okay. Obama caused this, and illegal immigrants are bringing it here.
You all are still sending your kids to school. You're still having illegal immigrants cut your grass.
Does anyone on this forum actually do anything other than complain?
I vote. I don't hire illegals, but unfortunately I'm not in a situation where I can pull my son from school. Believe me Id love to for other reasons, but just can't.
Is love to see the shot records of all the kids in that school and their history. More importantly who signed the waivers allowing those kids into schools without any medical data.
Averageman
10-02-14, 14:05
I don't care who they blame, but we have lately been running on a system where feeling are more important than facts.
It doesn't matter how sick those kids comming in here were or are, you were going to be labeled a racisit redneck if you didn't let them all in regardless of any logical and necassary precautions.
Moose-Knuckle
10-02-14, 15:48
Okay. Obama caused this, and illegal immigrants are bringing it here.
Obama did not cause a virus. He did however needlessly expose US citizens and more importantly US children to only God knows what when he allowed illegal aliens from third word shit holes to enter our country, delivering them to various states, and forced states to take them into their public schools without so much as knowing their country of origin much less their medical information to include their non-existent immunization records.
You all are still sending your kids to school. You're still having illegal immigrants cut your grass.
Well we are pregnant with our first and at the rate things are going we will be home schooling ours. And for your information I mow, trim, edge, and maintain my own ****ing lawn thank you very much as does all my neighbors.
Does anyone on this forum actually do anything other than complain?
If you don't like the show change the channel . . .
My post wasn't meant to be taken literally nor was it meant to be derogatory.
Then why bother posting such tripe?
I just feel that if we spent half as much energy into doing something instead of bitching we would be much better off.
LOL, well some of us at least are very concerned that our .gov is allowing diseased illegals to spread everything from enterovirus D68 to Ebola throughout our nation.
Okay. Obama caused this, and illegal immigrants are bringing it here.
You all are still sending your kids to school. You're still having illegal immigrants cut your grass.
Does anyone on this forum actually do anything other than complain?
I cut my own grass.
SilverBullet432
10-03-14, 21:33
I cut my own grass too, but often some asshat comes along and asks me how much i charge when they see me on the john deere :laugh:
I get hired to cut people's grass, I can't remember the last time I went to a doctor for anything but the specialists for my injuries, and I am waaaaaaay below my quota of how many times I write "GOD" in all caps for most months.
#partoftheproblem #imprettylegaltho #ISISishere
My post wasn't meant to be taken literally nor was it meant to be derogatory. I just feel that if we spent half as much energy into doing something instead of bitching we would be much better off.
It's the internet. What other purpose does it serve?
We have a case here in town, but can you prove this came from illegals? Saw nothing about it in the article, just that the child died of a combo of d68 and strep. I'm all for blaming obama, but this virus has been in the US since the 60's.
Enterovirus d68 is endemic to Latin America, it was brought here via illegal alien kids...
http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/michael-morris/could-illegal-unaccompanied-minors-be-spreading-new-mystery-virus-us
Could these children have been infected by the same respiratory illness brought over by the masses of illegal immigrant children from Latin America?
According to the CDC, “[n]asopharyngeal specimens were positive for rhinovirus/enterovirus in six out of eight patients that were tested. Of the six positive specimens, four were typed as EV-D68, and the other two are pending typing results.”
The CDC, in a post regarding EV-D68, noted that such infections “have recently been documented across the United States.” Thus far, 472 respiratory illness cases caused by EV-D68 have been confirmed in 41 states and the District of Columbia.
The virus (EV-D68), confirmed mostly in children and one adult, is an influenza-like virus common to Latin America, and according to BBC, most (more than 90 percent) of the illegal immigrant children caught trying to cross the border into the U.S. are from Latin American, specifically the countries of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador.
Look, you're not going to hear a whisper of this from the traditional media sources, this is because it goes directly against the democratic parties open borders agenda, and specifically implicates Obama in the propagation of this virus throughout the entire USA, albeit unintentionally, its even referred to as Honduran flu!(he personally ordered that these kids be dispersed into each of the fifty states)
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-04-14, 11:13
I vote.
Sucker. Obama already said that Congress isn't America...
I guess we're just calling this payback from Columbus and Cortez discovering the New World
Seeing as everyone in the new has blamed this on the white man
http://news.yahoo.com/eleventh-child-colorado-treated-virus-related-paralysis-symptoms-065211151.html
The number of children treated in Colorado for limb weakness or paralysis-like symptoms after coming down with a respiratory virus has risen to 11, a hospital official said on Friday.
Melissa Vizcarra, spokeswoman for Children's Hospital Colorado, said the child in the latest case is suffering from muscle weakness but tests have not conclusively linked it to a nationwide outbreak of Enterovirus D68 (EV-D68).
More than 500 people, mostly children, in 43 states and the District of Columbia have been infected with EV-D68 since mid-August, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
This is a very big deal, and its a bloody outrage just who is responsible for it! "Obama flu" is being spun big time by the traditional democratic party media sources, you will not find a single reference to the source of the virus in any of their coverage, not one! Its just being spun as, "its a mystery that has experts stumped," pure BS!
Okay, I'll put this here:
Look, I sure as hell don't want these little bastards in the country and we should definitely ship all their little beggar asses back. They're not our problem.
However, I see a lot of blaming them for the Enterovirus d68 spreading here. Now, it has been here before so it's not like it's never been seen. Yes, I'm sure some of them had it when they came here. My problem is this: What is the incubation period for this virus, and how long after an illegal hits the border are they shipped off to Hometown USA?
Ebola has an up-to 21 day incubation period. I may be wrong but I do not think this respiratory ailment has quite as long an incubation period, as it's much like the standard flu (which IIRC is ~ 3 days). So let's be generous and say the Enterovirus incubates for up to a week. Little Juanita crosses the border on a Monday and surrenders to the Border Patrol. With the processing and all that takes place is she really being sent to Hometown USA by the following Monday? This also assumes she was infected the day she crossed the border and not days before. I was under the impression that they were being held in detention facilities for several weeks (?). That means she'd be sick----and over it----by the time she was placed somewhere else.
Moose-Knuckle
10-07-14, 15:00
CDC: 4 People With Enterovirus D68 Have Died
http://www.webmd.com/news/20141001/children-enterovirus-d68-deaths
Well I surmise this one now makes 5 that we know about, so far Enterovirus D68 has killed 500 times more people than Ebola has in this country, but it's not getting the sensationalism treatment by the MSM and the .gov . . .
Enterovirus D68 caused New Jersey boy’s death, official says
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/06/enterovirus-d68-caused-new-jersey-boys-death-official-says/
Averageman
10-07-14, 15:19
Okay, I'll put this here:
Look, I sure as hell don't want these little bastards in the country and we should definitely ship all their little beggar asses back. They're not our problem.
However, I see a lot of blaming them for the Enterovirus d68 spreading here. Now, it has been here before so it's not like it's never been seen. Yes, I'm sure some of them had it when they came here. My problem is this: What is the incubation period for this virus, and how long after an illegal hits the border are they shipped off to Hometown USA?
Ebola has an up-to 21 day incubation period. I may be wrong but I do not think this respiratory ailment has quite as long an incubation period, as it's much like the standard flu (which IIRC is ~ 3 days). So let's be generous and say the Enterovirus incubates for up to a week. Little Juanita crosses the border on a Monday and surrenders to the Border Patrol. With the processing and all that takes place is she really being sent to Hometown USA by the following Monday? This also assumes she was infected the day she crossed the border and not days before. I was under the impression that they were being held in detention facilities for several weeks (?). That means she'd be sick----and over it----by the time she was placed somewhere else.
I think some of the kids were sick when they were first gathered together in holding areas. Remember the Congressman not being let on to the military base in his district?
Do a bit of google and you'll see that it may have been here for a while, but the rates of infection have spiked rather recently and some smart people are thinking it came in with them and is now spreading quickly here.
Now if it has always been here, but at such low numbers, what has caused this to spike suddenly and spread so quickly?
I think some of the kids were sick when they were first gathered together in holding areas. Remember the Congressman not being let on to the military base in his district?
Do a bit of google and you'll see that it may have been here for a while, but the rates of infection have spiked rather recently and some smart people are thinking it came in with them and is now spreading quickly here.
Now if it has always been here, but at such low numbers, what has caused this to spike suddenly and spread so quickly?
Yeah, it's not like Ebola where you are quarantined individually. These illegals are quarantined en masse, so new arrivals COULD infect ones about to ship out to Hometown USA. Hadn't thought of that aspect of it.
Moose-Knuckle
10-07-14, 16:19
The doctors and nurses on a particular USAF base were issued gag orders and not allowed to talk about the various illnesses they were treating Obama's illegal alien children for.
This is a very big deal, and its a bloody outrage just who is responsible for it! "Obama flu" is being spun big time by the traditional democratic party media sources, you will not find a single reference to the source of the virus in any of their coverage, not one! Its just being spun as, "its a mystery that has experts stumped," pure BS!
It's amazing this isn't being called Obama flu, if it were any other President they would name it after them. Between this and not requiring a "quarantine" period for anyone coming from or connecting from Africa and putting us at risk for a massive Ebola outbreak, I'm not sure which is the most irresponsible.
It's amazing this isn't being called Obama flu, if it were any other President they would name it after them. Between this and not requiring a "quarantine" period for anyone coming from or connecting from Africa and putting us at risk for a massive Ebola outbreak, I'm not sure which is the most irresponsible.
Its killed four American kids and one adult, in Colorado 11 kids are suffering from paralysis to one extent or another, and everyone knows where it came from, those GD Latin American illegal alien kids, whom they simply dispersed absent any vaccinations, or serious medical evaluations, into each of the fifty states, which is precisely why it exploded the way it has across the nation. Its a black outrage, and in my opinion Obama & Holder are personally responsible for those dead American children!
Averageman
10-07-14, 17:59
Yeah, it's not like Ebola where you are quarantined individually. These illegals are quarantined en masse, so new arrivals COULD infect ones about to ship out to Hometown USA. Hadn't thought of that aspect of it.
It was really strange the way they handled that. The Congressman I believe was on the House Armed Services committee and was actually meeting with the Post Commander and when he drove past the place where the kids were being housed asked to come in to see what was going on.
Private Security (Yes Private Security on a Military Post) turned him away and yes gag orders were issued to anyone working there.
I'm really not sure that I wouldn't have notified the Governor and asked for the State Police and the Provost Marshall to give me and armed escort to go inside and see what was going on.
I'm not sure they didn't need a visist from CPS and an investigation.
It was really strange the way they handled that. The Congressman I believe was on the House Armed Services committee and was actually meeting with the Post Commander and when he drove past the place where the kids were being housed asked to come in to see what was going on.
Private Security (Yes Private Security on a Military Post) turned him away and yes gag orders were issued to anyone working there.
I'm really not sure that I wouldn't have notified the Governor and asked for the State Police and the Provost Marshall to give me and armed escort to go inside and see what was going on.
I'm not sure they didn't need a visist from CPS and an investigation.
It's almost as if they are/were hiding something...... Strange.
Blaming imigrant children is rather silly at the moment considering Entero virus d68 has been in the US since the 1960s.
It's even sillier to claim that the virus is from a point source considering that multiple clades have evolved globally, infecting European countries as well. Why don't we blame legal immigrants coming from Europe since the disease is popping up there too?
Remember, correlation does not imply causation.
If anyone actually reads primary literature around here, this is an article discussing the global proliferation of the virus, along with it's evolutionary path so far. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3542132/
Do diseases spread via human migrations? Yes. Are there diseases that could be brought into the united states via immimgrants? Yes, both legal AND illegal. Can we be certain this 2014 outbreak is caused solely or partially by immigrant children? No. Even the CDC said they don't know.
Lets keep our pants on until some peer reviewed research makes it clear that this is the transmission vector.
Averageman
10-08-14, 14:27
Blaming imigrant children is rather silly at the moment considering Entero virus d68 has been in the US since the 1960s.
It's even sillier to claim that the virus is from a point source considering that multiple clades have evolved globally, infecting European countries as well. Why don't we blame legal immigrants coming from Europe since the disease is popping up there too?
Remember, correlation does not imply causation.
If anyone actually reads primary literature around here, this is an article discussing the global proliferation of the virus, along with it's evolutionary path so far. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3542132/
Do diseases spread via human migrations? Yes. Are there diseases that could be brought into the united states via immimgrants? Yes, both legal AND illegal. Can we be certain this 2014 outbreak is caused solely or partially by immigrant children? No. Even the CDC said they don't know.
Lets keep our pants on until some peer reviewed research makes it clear that this is the transmission vector.
Although I can see your point if you'll go back and look at some of the links you will see that although the virus was first found in the US in California in the early 1960's the numbers have always been low, so low that it was relatively unknown for years.
Where did the virus thrive during the years while it was relatively unknown in the U.S.?
I don't think blaming the kids is the answer, I blame a Government that ignores one of it's primary jobs and that's controlling the borders.
Moose-Knuckle
10-08-14, 16:35
Blaming imigrant children is rather silly at the moment considering Entero virus d68 has been in the US since the 1960s.
So all these recent infections and deaths are merely coincidence lol? Newsflash the US as almost eradicated multiple bugs over the years and we are seeing a reemergence of these threats thanks to ****ing illegal aliens and our Federal Government who has done nothing to stop them and in fact has aided them as Obama has with these diseased illegal aliens from Central America.
It's even sillier to claim that the virus is from a point source considering that multiple clades have evolved globally, infecting European countries as well. Why don't we blame legal immigrants coming from Europe since the disease is popping up there too?
What's "silly" is your liberal trolling tripe. Please provide links/photos/sources of European immigrants infecting CONUS . . .
Do diseases spread via human migrations? Yes. Are there diseases that could be brought into the united states via immimgrants? Yes, both legal AND illegal. Can we be certain this 2014 outbreak is caused solely or partially by immigrant children? No. Even the CDC said they don't know.
LOL, yeah the .gov and CDC said so, so it must be true never mind their isolation and quarantine of these diseaed illegal aliens on military bases before Obama had them flown all over CONUS. You know the ones that US Senators were not even allowed to go and interview.
Blaming imigrant children is rather silly at the moment considering Entero virus d68 has been in the US since the 1960s.
It's even sillier to claim that the virus is from a point source considering that multiple clades have evolved globally, infecting European countries as well. Why don't we blame legal immigrants coming from Europe since the disease is popping up there too?
Remember, correlation does not imply causation.
If anyone actually reads primary literature around here, this is an article discussing the global proliferation of the virus, along with it's evolutionary path so far. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3542132/
Do diseases spread via human migrations? Yes. Are there diseases that could be brought into the united states via immimgrants? Yes, both legal AND illegal. Can we be certain this 2014 outbreak is caused solely or partially by immigrant children? No. Even the CDC said they don't know.
Lets keep our pants on until some peer reviewed research makes it clear that this is the transmission vector.
Don't think anyone is blaming the kids for the disease. The faults lie with our elected officials who are negligent in their duty to protect US interests and citizens from harm. The only thing the 535+ c**k sheaths in DC are protecting is their own wallets.
Lots of diseases were found in the USA. Polio, small pox, TB and on and on and on. Through the years we have managed to kill them among our population. They were however not wiped from the planet and can still be found around the world generally in third world shitholes. When you see diseases resurface after mass uncontrolled migrations it's not hard to make the connection that the 2 events might be linked. If you drop a match and your home burns do you blame the wiring??
So all these recent infections and deaths are merely coincidence lol? Newsflash the US as almost eradicated multiple bugs over the years and we are seeing a reemergence of these threats thanks to ****ing illegal aliens and our Federal Government who has done nothing to stop them and in fact has aided them as Obama has with these diseased illegal aliens from Central America.
Bingo. We are seeing third world diseases that we virtually eliminated in this country decades ago. Two things are at play, people coming here from third world areas that never eradicated these diseases and potentially bring a more potent and adaptable strain of the virus and moron parents who refuse to get their kids vaccinated because they believe it causes autism or violates their religious beliefs.
Those two factors combined mean we are seeing heath problems that our grandparents dealt with back in the mainstream.
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