View Full Version : Sig P226 9mm - Extreme or Combat? Update: Decision made
I'm looking to pick up another P226 and was considering these two models. Extreme has Hogue G10 grips and SRT trigger. Combat has tan frame (anodized I think) chrome-lined barrel, phosphate internals, and 1913 railed frame. I like the Combat but I'm wondering if I'd be better off with the SRT trigger. I'm also not sure if I want the 1913 railed frame, as it might limit holster selection. Combat will be about $100 cheaper as well. Also considering other models, mainly the MK25. Appreciate any input.
I like the coated internals but I've never had a problem with the standard ones. Practically speaking you would get more benefit from the srt trigger. I would take a hard look at the sao p226. All the advantages of a sig without a double action trigger pull. The sao trigger has a short reset and crisp pull.
The rail does make it a little harder but there are several manufacturers that make holsters for railed sigs. I know blade tech, raven, and now safariland do.
gtmtnbiker98
10-14-14, 11:34
MK25.
MK25.
Agreed. This is the only new production SIG I would even consider purchasing.
I would avoid the SRT system in calibers other than 9mm. My department had nothing but problems with .40 SRT 226 pistols. I put the kit in an older 228. It runs fine
MK25.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Combat essentially a Mk25 with the short reach trigger and tan frame?
I bought a Sig226 with the SRT already installed. I think it's the best upgrade you can get for a 226. If you get the non-SRT model, plan on spending the money to get the SRT and install it. I think for the money it's well worth it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Combat essentially a Mk25 with the short reach trigger and tan frame?
They are virtually identical, I believe. The MK25 has the coated internals and I can't remember if the Combat does or not. I have a 226 Combat with about 4500 rounds through and it's a very nice handgun.
Which SRT trigger are we talking about? The Short Reach Trigger, or Short Reset Trigger? We've got ssome guys that have been running short reset triggers in P220's on duty for at least 8 years without issue.
And back to the topic my vote is for Elite or Tacops.
There is a short trigger and a srt (short reset trigger).
And back to the topic my vote is for Elite or Tacops.
Why those two?
Screw it I say both!
Actually it's not a Combat, it a MK25 Desert. Regardless you can't buy just one!
29030
Why those two?
I'm a fan of the beaver tail grip and front strap checkering that they both have. I think the elite's e2 grips are probably one of my favorites on any gun. The tacops comes with 4 20 round mags and fiber optic sights.
10mmSpringfield
10-14-14, 15:49
I'd try to find a LEO hand in for 400 bucks.
That gun is waaay overpriced and I've had catastrophic failures with the SRT in the P220 and P229, which is why I don't run Sigs anymore except my old 9 mil LEO P226.
I'd try to find a LEO hand in for 400 bucks.
That gun is waaay overpriced and I've had catastrophic failures with the SRT in the P220 and P229, which is why I don't run Sigs anymore except my old 9 mil LEO P226.
What was the nature of the failures? I have a P229 with this trigger and this concerns me.
10mmSpringfield
10-14-14, 16:00
What was the nature of the failures? I have a P229 with this trigger and this concerns me.
Both grenaded their trigger bar/reset spring within 1000 rounds of install.
Sig did the SRT on the P220 and I did the P229.
I sent both guns in for autopsies when I had this happen and just got a fix but no explanation as to what happened.
Thanks for the replies. Still trying to decide. I'm leaning toward the Combat, but I kinda wish it had the short reset trigger. It does appear to have the short reach trigger, but I'm not sure if that is a good thing since I have large-ish hands. Seems like all the SRT models come with the shorter trigger as well. It will probably fit me fine but I'm pretty used to the standard trigger. If the SRT is trouble-prone maybe I'd be better off to skip it anyway. I had never heard of any failures before.
Almost positive that all current LEO order guns that Sig sells come standard with the short reset trigger. That's what the rep told me anyway. Of course there will be failures, but there's a lot of agencies running Sigs and I haven't heard of any local agencies having problems.
Almost positive that all current LEO order guns that Sig sells come standard with the short reset trigger. That's what the rep told me anyway. Of course there will be failures, but there's a lot of agencies running Sigs and I haven't heard of any local agencies having problems.
The current LE guns come with the short reset trigger. My department just traded in our 6 month old 226 (.40) and 220 pistols for Glocks.
We used SIGs for about 20 years. I carried a 220 for about 15 years. I have been through the armorer class 3 times. Im not claiming expert status, but Im familiar with these guns. We had more problems with the new batch of SRT equipped pistols in 6 months than we had in the previous 2 decades.
I would only consider buying a new production SIG if it had the old (non mim) internals. Although my sample of 1 SRT equipped 228 runs fine, I would stay away from that system.
More sig info here
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?149928-So-The-SIG-P227-Is-Still-Gonna-Be-A-POS-Right/page3&highlight=p227
Dammit, now I'm back to looking at black MK25. Kind of a basic pistol compared to some of the other models, but that might not be a bad thing.
Close enough. How do they compare? Do you prefer one over the other?
Screw it I say both!
Actually it's not a Combat, it a MK25 Desert. Regardless you can't buy just one!
29030
The current LE guns come with the short reset trigger. My department just traded in our 6 month old 226 (.40) and 220 pistols for Glocks.
We used SIGs for about 20 years. I carried a 220 for about 15 years. I have been through the armorer class 3 times. Im not claiming expert status, but Im familiar with these guns. We had more problems with the new batch of SRT equipped pistols in 6 months than we had in the previous 2 decades.
I would only consider buying a new production SIG if it had the old (non mim) internals. Although my sample of 1 SRT equipped 228 runs fine, I would stay away from that system.
More sig info here
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?149928-So-The-SIG-P227-Is-Still-Gonna-Be-A-POS-Right/page3&highlight=p227
All of our P220's, are about 10 years old, and all but two or three surrounding agencies are all within a couple years of that as well. One agency in our County just got brand new 226's in .40 about 8 months ago. I'll hit up their lead firearms guy to see if they've had any issues lately. I'm an HK fanboy who shoots mostly Glocks, because I shoot them very well, and is issued a Sig. Our Admin flat out refuses to go with "a plastic" gun. I was hoping we were getting 227's soon since they refuse to leave Sig. The major issue we have with our Sigs are 220 slides not locking back on an empty mag. It's not magazine related either. I can't remember how they fixed my 220, but it involved actually bending a piece with a pair of pliers. I've asked to go to armorers school, but haven't been given approval yet.
You should only buy a West German made Sig if you want to have a real one.
10mmSpringfield
10-14-14, 21:56
You should only buy a West German made Sig if you want to have a real one.
I had a P6.
It hated hollow points due to its ancient feedramp design.
Well I bid on a new black MK25 on Gunbroker last night before I went to bed. Looks like I won it. Price was $816, which seemed pretty decent. The MK25 seems somewhat no-frills compared to some of the others, but I think it will suit me fine. My other Sigs are standard models with regular triggers, so it's what I'm used to.
The major issue we have with our Sigs are 220 slides not locking back on an empty mag. It's not magazine related either.
Did you try readjusting your grip? I had that problem with my 220 combat when I first got it.
I would say the tacops model for the fact it comes with 20 rounders and a beavertail. The sao model gets a vote as well.
If you want some color, what about the scorpion models?
All of our P220's, are about 10 years old, and all but two or three surrounding agencies are all within a couple years of that as well. One agency in our County just got brand new 226's in .40 about 8 months ago. I'll hit up their lead firearms guy to see if they've had any issues lately. I'm an HK fanboy who shoots mostly Glocks, because I shoot them very well, and is issued a Sig. Our Admin flat out refuses to go with "a plastic" gun. I was hoping we were getting 227's soon since they refuse to leave Sig. The major issue we have with our Sigs are 220 slides not locking back on an empty mag. It's not magazine related either. I can't remember how they fixed my 220, but it involved actually bending a piece with a pair of pliers. I've asked to go to armorers school, but haven't been given approval yet.
I recently replaced a slide catch lever spring on a P220 with the same problem. Easy fix. They wear out after a while.
The Indiana State Police have switched to the P227. I have heard that they have worked well so far. I handled one recently and thought the grip was too fat.
SIG is capable of building functional guns. We had more than a 10 % failure rate with our batch of guns. About 90% worked. Pay your money. Take your chances. I believe there is less chance of ending up with the functional equivalent of a SIG branded paperweight if you purchase an older ( non mim) pistol, or a MK 25
gtmtnbiker98
10-15-14, 08:55
Well I bid on a new black MK25 on Gunbroker last night before I went to bed. Looks like I won it. Price was $816, which seemed pretty decent. The MK25 seems somewhat no-frills compared to some of the others, but I think it will suit me fine. My other Sigs are standard models with regular triggers, so it's what I'm used to.Sorry to have missed your first questions posed to me regarding my mentioning the MK25 as an option. I'm glad you made a bid on the MK25 in that IMO, it is the best P226 setup in current production. Why?
- true pic rail
- chrome line barrel
- Phosphate parts (could take or leave)
- regular reach trigger
So yes, it's pretty much the same as the Combat and the big deal to me was that it had a regular reach trigger! I'm not all hung up over the SRT (short reset). The standard trigger is very good for me as it is.
The MK25 (I own two) is my favorite SIG and is one of my primary sidearms.
Thanks. I settled on the MK25 for pretty much all the reasons you mentioned. I take it yours has the chrome lined barrel? I've read that some do, but some don't. Sig doesn't seem to list it in their description. All the Combats seem to have the CL barrel however.
Sorry to have missed your first questions posed to me regarding my mentioning the MK25 as an option. I'm glad you made a bid on the MK25 in that IMO, it is the best P226 setup in current production. Why?
- true pic rail
- chrome line barrel
- Phosphate parts (could take or leave)
- regular reach trigger
So yes, it's pretty much the same as the Combat and the big deal to me was that it had a regular reach trigger! I'm not all hung up over the SRT (short reset). The standard trigger is very good for me as it is.
The MK25 (I own two) is my favorite SIG and is one of my primary sidearms.
gtmtnbiker98
10-15-14, 11:18
Thanks. I settled on the MK25 for pretty much all the reasons you mentioned. I take it yours has the chrome lined barrel? I've read that some do, but some don't. Sig doesn't seem to list it in their description. All the Combats seem to have the CL barrel however.
Yes, both of mine have the chrome lined barrel.
Did you try readjusting your grip? I had that problem with my 220 combat when I first got it.
I would say the tacops model for the fact it comes with 20 rounders and a beavertail. The sao model gets a vote as well.
If you want some color, what about the scorpion models?
I'm a lefty so grip has no effect on my slide locking back.
I recently replaced a slide catch lever spring on a P220 with the same problem. Easy fix. They wear out after a while.
The Indiana State Police have switched to the P227. I have heard that they have worked well so far. I handled one recently and thought the grip was too fat.
SIG is capable of building functional guns. We had more than a 10 % failure rate with our batch of guns. About 90% worked. Pay your money. Take your chances. I believe there is less chance of ending up with the functional equivalent of a SIG branded paperweight if you purchase an older ( non mim) pistol, or a MK 25
It may be the slide lever catch that they bent and reinstalled. Not sure I stupidly didn't pay attention.
I picked up a Combat a few months ago and it doesn't have the SRT. Should it have the SRT?
The Combat doesn't come with the SRT, but it should have the thin trigger if I recall correctly.
So I opted for the MK 25 Desert, much for all the same reasons as mentioned, I also picked up the SRT from Midway, $50, just in case I wanted to try it later on? Amy opinions on the Mec-Gar mags as compared to the SIG?
Anyone with experience with the Elite SAO version of the 226 [9mm]?
Mec-Gar makes, or used to make, Sig factory mags. The Mec-Gars are 100% good to go. I've used their 15rd, 17rd, 18rd, and 20rd mags and never had an issue of any kind. New guns are shipping with Checkmate mags, which seem to have mixed reviews.
So I opted for the MK 25 Desert, much for all the same reasons as mentioned, I also picked up the SRT from Midway, $50, just in case I wanted to try it later on? Amy opinions on the Mec-Gar mags as compared to the SIG?
Mine came with Mec-Gar 15 rounders, they have been good to go. Anyone know of any reason not to switch to the higher capacity Mec-Gars?
MountainRaven
11-16-14, 16:09
Mine came with Mec-Gar 15 rounders, they have been good to go. Anyone know of any reason not to switch to the higher capacity Mec-Gars?
If you live in Colorado and can't have mags with a capacity greater than 15-rounds. Otherwise, no.
If you live in Colorado and can't have mags with a capacity greater than 15-rounds. Otherwise, no.
Thanks. I guess I know what I want for stocking stuffers this year!
Any preference for which one capacity wise, this is my first Sig.
MountainRaven
11-16-14, 18:12
I would choose 18-rounders for carry, 20-rounders for "special purposes".
I would choose 18-rounders for carry, 20-rounders for "special purposes".
Thanks again! I'll be pricing them out shortly.
kihnspiracy
11-16-14, 20:07
The MK25 is an excellent pistol. You will like it.
Thanks again! I'll be pricing them out shortly.
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Thanks for the link, I've never used DSG Arms.
Should have it in a week.
http://i.imgur.com/k3Vn2rz.jpg
Nightstalker865
12-08-14, 16:12
Excellent choice.
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