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Does anyone know if the Viking Tactics sling you can order from Brownell's is any DIFFERENT than the one you would order from Viking Tactics, or any other dealer?
I guess what I am asking are there different manufacturers, that make the slings to different standards. I definitely want it Made in the U.S.A. if I can get it.
Thanks,
Jack
lanceriley
06-21-08, 20:50
im sure it should be the same. but never really tried ordering both.
rifleshooter
06-21-08, 20:51
Does anyone know if the Viking Tactics sling you can order from Brownell's is any DIFFERENT than the one you would order from Viking Tactics, or any other dealer?
I guess what I am asking are there different manufacturers, that make the slings to different standards. I definitely want it Made in the U.S.A. if I can get it.
Thanks,
Jack
Add Larue to your list they also have it for sale. I am betting they are all the same sling except for the quick disconnect Larue offers.
http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=86
I got mine from Larue.:) You get some free Laure goodies also..;)
GLOCKMASTER
06-21-08, 20:53
Does anyone know if the Viking Tactics sling you can order from Brownell's is any DIFFERENT than the one you would order from Viking Tactics, or any other dealer?
I guess what I am asking are there different manufacturers, that make the slings to different standards. I definitely want it Made in the U.S.A. if I can get it.
Thanks,
Jack
The slings that Brownell's sells are the same slings that you get straight from Viking Tactics and they are the ones made in the USA. You would also be surprised at who manufactures those slings.;)
However, there is a quality difference in the ones sold under the 511 Tactical brand.
I own several VTAC slings and have never had an issue with quality.
rifleshooter
06-21-08, 21:01
The slings that Brownell's sells are the same slings that you get straight from Viking Tactics and they are the ones made in the USA. You would also be surprised at who manufactures those slings.;)
However, there is a quality difference in the ones sold under the 511 Tactical brand.
I own several VTAC slings and have never had an issue with quality.
I would be willing to bet if one bought from Larue as I did or Brownell's you get a quality product.;)
lanceriley
06-21-08, 21:03
a lot of stuffs aren't made in the u.s.a. The slings could be assembled in the u.s.a. but the materials probably somewhere else...
5.11 isn't made in the U.S.
GLOCKMASTER
06-21-08, 21:06
I would be willing to bet if one bought from Larue as I did or Brownell's you get a quality product.;)
You will because one of mine came from LT.:D
a lot of stuffs aren't made in the u.s.a. The slings could be assembled in the u.s.a. but the materials probably somewhere else...
5.11 isn't made in the U.S.
You are right, the VTAC 511 Tactical sling is not made in the US.
lanceriley
06-21-08, 22:14
it's not just the sling... i think that would include the whole line....
i think it's made in vietnam or indonesia...
I would know . My friend is a dealer in our area.
GLOCKMASTER
06-22-08, 07:21
it's not just the sling... i think that would include the whole line....
The whole clothing line is made OCONUS. I have been using 511 clothing for years at work. The clothing line is made in several different countries.
lanceriley
06-22-08, 11:25
yes I can tell... the pockets in the academy shorts keeps moving.
rifleshooter
06-22-08, 12:12
yes I can tell... the pockets in the academy shorts keeps moving.
I bought two pairs of heavy cotton cargo pocket shorts from Academy about five years ago they were marked made in Russia.
They are tough and quality made I have worn and washed& power dried them hundredes of times and they show no signs of wearing out.
I think theywill last for many many more years.:)
I was disappointed in the quality of the VTAC sling I got. So, ordering directly from VTAC would ensure better quality?
I got my vtac sling through Noveske's site
Does anyone know if the Viking Tactics sling you can order from Brownell's is any DIFFERENT than the one you would order from Viking Tactics, or any other dealer?
I guess what I am asking are there different manufacturers, that make the slings to different standards. I definitely want it Made in the U.S.A. if I can get it.
Thanks,
Jack
There are several diff. versions of this sling. The majority of them are made overseas (like Vietnam or somehwere). They do make some that are berry amend. complient, but have yet to see any of those at dealers.
I would suggest that you also look at the BFG Vickers slings. 100% made in the US and they use far better materials than VTAC does.
C4
my new VTAC sling has webbing that looks discolored and slightly frayed.....my Vickers sling (for an 870)is is made with better quality webbing.....no big deal
Bill
I'm thinking about trying one of these out...Any thoughts?
http://www.gearsector.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=101
I'm thinking about trying one of these out...Any thoughts?
http://www.gearsector.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=101
I've heard they're pretty decent, but have yet to see a good write-up.
I'm thinking about trying one of these out...Any thoughts?
http://www.gearsector.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=101
Quality gear and quality company. The owner posts on this forum.
C4
I've heard they're pretty decent, but have yet to see a good write-up.
I run a GS-2P as my duty sling. For a couple reviews, you can take a look at the below link. The Vickers/ BFG sling would be my next choice without any hurt feelings.
http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102
Like LAV written in his tactical tips, use a modern 2 point sling, if not one of his use somebody else's. Stay away from the outdated 3 points. I've used a VCAS sling, currently using the economy version, the Victory sling. It's a well made sling with the adjustable feature and a price that doesn't break the wallet. You can get it from Brownells or directly from Blue Force.
I have the newer generation 2 point tactical sling from Redi Mag/Boonie Packer, it is very similar to many of the more famous brands. It's installed on my backup carbine and seems to be working well for less than $20.
Many like the VTAC slings, I'm not too familiar with it, as I've seen only a couple first hand.
That Gear Sector sling look mighty similar to the Redimag/Boonie Packer sling here, right down to the pull tab:
http://www.redi-mag.com/2paotm.php
Like LAV written in his tactical tips, use a modern 2 point sling, if not one of his use somebody else's. Stay away from the outdated 3 points. I've used a VCAS sling, currently using the economy version, the Victory sling. It's a well made sling with the adjustable feature and a price that doesn't break the wallet. You can get it from Brownells or directly from Blue Force.
I have the newer generation 2 point tactical sling from Redi Mag/Boonie Packer, it is very similar to many of the more famous brands. It's installed on my backup carbine and seems to be working well for less than $20.
Many like the VTAC slings, I'm not too familiar with it, as I've seen only a couple first hand.
That Gear Sector sling look mighty similar to the Redimag/Boonie Packer sling here, right down to the pull tab:
http://www.redi-mag.com/2paotm.php
$18 shipped? Nice. Does anyone own one of these? I need something simply for occasional range use.
Sam,
The Booniepacker looks more like an unpadded VTAC to my eye, especially with that long tail.
$18 shipped? Nice. Does anyone own one of these? I need something simply for occasional range use.
I have this one, even with the option quick detach piece, it was $20.
http://www.redimag.com/tqa.php
I have this one, even with the option quick detach piece, it was $20.
http://www.redimag.com/tqa.php
For someone who knows little to nothing about slings that sight sure is confusing.
There's the 2P-AOTM, 2P-TQA, and 2P-TQA-C. Can someone highlight the main differences? I guess my biggest concern is quick removal of the sling (when in storage, etc.). The front obviously quick detaches (buckle), but the rear looks as if it needs to be undone manually?
Sam, can you shed some light on this? Maybe grab a quick up close picture if possible? I'd really appreciate it!
EDIT: Sam did you get the 1 1/2 M4 Kit and pair it with one of these? http://www.redimag.com/eqr2.php -- That way you can detach it quickly from both ends?
For someone who knows little to nothing about slings that sight sure is confusing.
There's the 2P-AOTM, 2P-TQA, and 2P-TQA-C. Can someone highlight the main differences? I guess my biggest concern is quick removal of the sling (when in storage, etc.). The front obviously quick detaches (buckle), but the rear looks as if it needs to be undone manually?
Sam, can you shed some light on this? Maybe grab a quick up close picture if possible? I'd really appreciate it!
EDIT: Sam did you get the 1 1/2 M4 Kit and pair it with one of these? http://www.redimag.com/eqr2.php -- That way you can detach it quickly from both ends?
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As best I could tell, the AOTM sling is intended to be similar to the VTAC sling. It has the long tail on the adjustment piece.
The TQA is very similar to the Blue Force Gear sling, not identical to infringe on any potential patent but close. For those on a budget, they need to take a look at this sling.
The TQA-C is a new one. I can't tell from the picture how it differs from the TQA. Maybe it's a compromise between the AOTM (long tail) and the TQA. Some people said that slings similar to the TQA doesn't allow the rifle to be carried up close against the body, whether in front or back. While others feel that the long tail like the one on the AOTM might get in the way of other equipment and get tangle or whatever.
I'll try to take pictures tonight. I do have the 1.5" M4 kit it works well with the side sling swivel on the front and the rear piece slips into the slot in the stock in 10 seconds. The EQR2 QD front does allow quick removal, although if you have a Daniel Defense sling mount, you have double redundancy quick detach feature.
Thanks for the quick write-up Sam. My rifle (when it arrives) will be very KISS. It'll have standard handguards with the standard sling swivel under the FSB. The stock will be a standard 5-position collapsible (M4 style).
Once I have a better idea of what direction I'm heading I'll have to give them a call. It's hard to understand the true differences between the VTAC and VCAS (per se) when you don't have them in front of you. But it seems like a great deal for someone who may or may not need a sling here and there.
Thanks for the quick write-up Sam. My rifle (when it arrives) will be very KISS. It'll have standard handguards with the standard sling swivel under the FSB. The stock will be a standard 5-position collapsible (M4 style).
Once I have a better idea of what direction I'm heading I'll have to give them a call. It's hard to understand the true differences between the VTAC and VCAS (per se) when you don't have them in front of you. But it seems like a great deal for someone who may or may not need a sling here and there.
If your rifle has the sling mount under the FSB, you'll need the optional "silent front sling mount". The regular front sling mount on any of the 2P series slings will go on your under FSB sling swivel but it will hang awkwardly as if you just got off the "short bus" look. Order the rear M4 attachment and you'll be good to go.
Even if you get the VTAC or the VCAS slings, you'll need some kind of adapter for that front sling mount.
Blue Force Gear Victory sling (designed by Larry Vickers), picture shows the slider, pull tab and sling attachment. The VCAS model does have a quick detach buckle, whereas the Victory model doesn't.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/slings_001.jpg
Redi Mag/Boonie Packer sling, with the slider, pull tab, attachment method and emergency release.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/slings_003.jpg
I didn't bother taking pictures of the rear stock attachment, there's nothing exciting going on there.
Fantastic. Thanks for all of your help Sam! :D
I agree...The site is very confusing. I'm still not sure If I want to go with a 2 point. Any thoughts about Redimag's 1 point?
I think the general consensus is that 2-points are more versatile than 1-points. I ended up going with the 1 1/2 TQA with M4 rear / silent front sling mount combo and couldn't be happier. Granted my AR hasn't arrived yet, but the stitching and overall quality looks wonderful.
I think the general consensus is that 2-points are more versatile than 1-points. I ended up going with the 1 1/2 TQA with M4 rear / silent front sling mount combo and couldn't be happier. Granted my AR hasn't arrived yet, but the stitching and overall quality looks wonderful.
Got the sling already huh?
There are several diff. versions of this sling. The majority of them are made overseas (like Vietnam or somehwere). They do make some that are berry amend. complient, but have yet to see any of those at dealers.
I would suggest that you also look at the BFG Vickers slings. 100% made in the US and they use far better materials than VTAC does.
C4
+1 on the BFG Vickers. I mounted it with the CQD Two/One Point Sling mount at the stock/lower joint and a front rail mount CQD hook mount. MASH hooks on the sling and I am GTG for either one or two point configurations.
Got the sling already huh?
Sure did. Everything looked great except the silent front sling mount. It appeared to be a bit frayed on the edges (kind of a yellowish/gold color), so I'm in the process of exchanging it. The service (Dave) has been great.
For $30 it fits the bill nicely. Plus that includes (2) chamber flags, and the silent piece above (which is $8.50 by itself--made of kevlar).
Let me know how it works out...when you get it on your rifle.
Let me know how it works out...when you get it on your rifle.
Haha, you might not want to wait for me. CMMG has just put my order into production (submitted June 23), so it'll still be a few weeks. :D
I purchased my Viking Tactics VTAC MK2 sling from Bravo Company USA. (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Viking-Tactics-Sling-MK2-VTAC-p/viking%20mk2%20sling%20black.htm) No quality control complaints here - works great! :D
GLOCKMASTER
08-08-08, 21:22
FWIW only the 511 version is made OCONUS and is made of different materials than the US version.
All other versions are made in the US to include the ones sold by Brownell's, Bravo Company, LaRue and by Viking Tactics.
I have several on personal rifles and just put 25 of them into service on patrol rifles. They are holding up just fine.
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