Florida's election for governor - how do the Democrats keep a straight face?

[Eurodriver]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/10/07/florida-governor-race-scott-crist/16674449/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/crist-and-scott-could-make-history-by-being-so-unpopular-in-florida/

One of my favorite lines to say is : "Oh, so you're going to be voting for a Former Republican Governor of Florida?"

And they respond with ridiculous "No, no. He's seen the light. He knows the right path now. He's one of us through and through."

For those of you unaware, this guy was a well-known Republican in Florida for decades. He was elected governor for four years. Then he ran for the Senate unsuccessfully as a Republican...but not really. Then he went Independent and now he's a full-blown Democrat running for Governor again. A lot of the liberal girls I know think it's "cute" that he wears a purple tie.

Personally, I thought Scott was unwinnable in November a few years ago. He looks like an alien and has no personality, but fortunately he is running against the most well-known turn-coat since John Kerry and Crist's money was so powerful that no other Democrat could challenge him in the primary.

Florida's legislature is so solidly Republican that I am not too concerned either way about this election, but it's still going to be annoying if he wins. Scott is solidly anti-socialist and pro-2A and even sent a letter to the mayor of Tampa during the RNC stating that he was infringing on state law and the 2nd Amendment by banning firearms in a security zone around the RNC.

[Palmguy]

You don't understand...the Republican Party left him!

It is weird...he wasn't unpopular as governor, but then engaged in these ridiculously transparent flip flops and made the full transition to total d-bag when he started to rival Al Sharpton for use of the race card in defense of Obama. The whole John Morgan relationship and the medical pot amendment and all of the dynamics of that relating to the election are pretty damn sketchy as well.

Several of my wife's family members are slightly left of Marx and hated Crist back in the day, made fun of him, etc; and are now voting for him.

At the end of the day, I agree with you...I hope Crist doesn't win but if he does, the Florida house is approaching a veto-proof supermajority.

[PatrioticDisorder]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/10/07/florida-governor-race-scott-crist/16674449/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/crist-and-scott-could-make-history-by-being-so-unpopular-in-florida/

One of my favorite lines to say is : "Oh, so you're going to be voting for a Former Republican Governor of Florida?"

And they respond with ridiculous "No, no. He's seen the light. He knows the right path now. He's one of us through and through."

For those of you unaware, this guy was a well-known Republican in Florida for decades. He was elected governor for four years. Then he ran for the Senate unsuccessfully as a Republican...but not really. Then he went Independent and now he's a full-blown Democrat running for Governor again. A lot of the liberal girls I know think it's "cute" that he wears a purple tie.

Personally, I thought Scott was unwinnable in November a few years ago. He looks like an alien and has no personality, but fortunately he is running against the most well-known turn-coat since John Kerry and Crist's money was so powerful that no other Democrat could challenge him in the primary.

Florida's legislature is so solidly Republican that I am not too concerned either way about this election, but it's still going to be annoying if he wins. Scott is solidly anti-socialist and pro-2A and even sent a letter to the mayor of Tampa during the RNC stating that he was infringing on state law and the 2nd Amendment by banning firearms in a security zone around the RNC.

Not to mention if/when 41p goes through come Janaury we're going to need a governor that will sign "shall certify", tell that to all the tards you know who want to protest vote for Wyllie in a razor tight election.

[Apricotshot]

I think Scott has done a great job as governor. He's got us back in the black budget-wise. All the nutty Libertarians and Dems say that he is crook, looks funny and plead the 5th a bunch of times. When I actually looked into it he really wasn't convicted of any crimes his company that he resigned from who wanted to settle instead of fight the charges was fined. He does look funny. He made state workers pay into their retirement more too. I'll be voting for him again. And No on Amendment 2.

[montanadave]

Here in Montana we have a former Navy SEAL running on the Republican ticket facing off against a former staffer for retired Democratic Senator Max Baucus for our lone House seat. The Montana Democratic party apparatchiks got wind of some sort of stink in Zinke's (the former SEAL) military records, fueled by disparaging comments made by one of Zinke's former commanding officers who resides back east (who apparently had some sort of ax to grind).

The upshot is Zinke's opponents have been hounding him about these "missing" service records since the primaries back in June, insinuating that Zinke was drummed out of the Navy and blackballed for further promotion after some egregious breach of ethics or failure of command. Well, the Navy finally released the missing records (fitness reports) last week.

Yep, Zinke ****ed up and had to reimburse the Navy $211 for travel expenses when he apparently traveled to Montana to scout training locations for SEAL teams in Montana and made a pit stop at his home in Whitefish, MT. And these same reports also contained all manner of damning comments regarding Zinke's character and leadership, such as:

“(d)ynamic decisive and intelligent. Excels at the most complex taskings and assignments.”

“outstanding operational and fiduciary oversight for more than 200 command high-risk training events while managing an annual O&M (operations and maintenance) budget in excel of $10 (million).”

“a nothing short of spectacular performance.”

a “brilliant” chief staff officer “who excels at leading the largest command in Naval Special Warfare. In my 28 years of active duty, nobody does it better or with more enthusiasm, integrity and courageous leadership. … A superstar.”

“a savvy, experienced war-fighter proving equally adept in management.”

“My number one CDR (commander) and ranks among the finest officers that I have served with during my 36 years of active duty. A superstar who has earned my complete trust and strongest personal recommendations for an immediate CO (commanding officer) assignment. … If you screen just one officer for command, screen CDR (Commander) Zinke. He is that good!”

And the praise from Zinke's superior officers goes on and on.

What's that old lawyer's adage about never asking a question you don't already know the answer to.

And yet, despite having the whole affair blow up in their face like a Wiley Coyote cartoon, the Montana Democratic Party soldiered on, releasing this statement:

“There is nothing honorable about using taxpayer dollars for personal use, regardless of the amount. … Only after months of public pressure was Zinke fully willing to come clean with the people of Montana. Zinke lied to the people of Montana — he was pushed out of Seal Team Six for lapses in judgment that he’s been covering up.” (http://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/zinke-had-review-in-which-he-was-marked-down-for/article_33c88642-b3d8-5138-a679-441305ce3c67.html)

Yes, it seems Zinke's commanders were indeed pushing him out of Seal (sic) Team Six. Because they wanted to promote him and send him to the Navy War College.

Which reminds me of another old saying: "When you find yourself in a hole, the first step is to STOP DIGGING!" :laugh:

[kwelz]

People don't care what a person stands for. They only care about the D or R next to the name.

[Onyx Z]

A lot of the liberal girls I know think it's "cute" that he wears a purple tie.

One of my "friends" on Facebook said something similar about Obama after he "won" the last election. This goes to show you what these people that vote for them really care about. Social things, not shyt that makes a difference.

[polydeuces]

If Scott and Christ is the best we can do it is a sad state - beyond words.
One is a crook firmly in the pocket of healthcare lobby and big corporate America and whatever else, with an abysmal record.
His ONLY redeeming quality for me is his pro 2a attitude.
Oh sure he made hs money the honest way....suuuuuuure.... he bears no responsibilty whatsoever of the staggering fraude commited by columbia/HCA. Funny though when this was going down - at that time Columbia HCA was one of my accounts and well let's just say - ythis is no fantasy concocted by the Democrats........( FWIW - "factchecking" only works when one is willing to bringing an unbiased mind to the table)

Then the other - an opportunist of the highest order with a questionable set of ethics as well, and a bit weird personal history....his only redeeming quality is a slightly better track record. And he's pro 2A as well.
But that flip-flop thing....

Oh and by the way since it was brought up....Prop 2 - legalize it all the way. Stop screwing around with this "medical' stuff....regulate it, tax it and be done with it. It's far less harmful than alcohol, free up the judicial system and generates revenue - for all.
No more $$$$$ flowing across the border to the Mexican cartels for one. Legalizing works. Just look at the Netherlands - no problems until they went back to tighter regulation.
But we're digressing.

[PatrioticDisorder]

Suntan Charlie now favors gun control, part of his flip flop routine. Amendment 2 is also bullshit, we don't need stoners moving here thinking they'll destroy this state like they did CO. The human brain is develops until at least age 25 and marihuana has adverse effects in brain development including increased risk of developing schizophrenia, I'll be voting no on that amendment!

[Apricotshot]

When Morgan & Morgan want to pass legislation I am immediatly suspect.

[Eurodriver]

When Morgan & Morgan want to pass legislation I am immediatly suspect.

This should be on the BayNews9 / CFNews13 ticker....

[Mauser KAR98K]

When Morgan & Morgan want to pass legislation I am immediately suspect.

Okay, now I am curious as I used to live in Central Florida and was bombarded by their commercials during afternoon cartoons.

[Eurodriver]

Okay, now I am curious as I used to live in Central Florida and was bombarded by their commercials during afternoon cartoons.

They are huge supporters of the medical marijuana amendment on the ballot this election.

You know, cuz it's For the People.

[SteyrAUG]

This is all just political theater. They blatantly distort the truth, exaggerate small things and promote lies as the truth. Bottom line is people are involved in politics for power and money, both of which they gain at the expense of the citizenry. And if there ever was an honest politician trying to do the right thing, they would quickly be marginalized and relegated to a position with no real power or they would be destroyed by those who are already entrenched in government and have the power and money to discredit them.

[Don Robison]

I was just looking at some polls and for some reason I'm surprised at how close it appears to be. Four polls had them tied, one had Crist up by 4 and one had Scott up by 1. I guess people really are as stupid as I thought.
Either that or they are both so horrible that they are both the lesser of two evils. :sarcastic:

[Palmguy]

Then the other - an opportunist of the highest order with a questionable set of ethics as well, and a bit weird personal history....his only redeeming quality is a slightly better track record. And he's pro 2A as well.
But that flip-flop thing....


Not anymore.