View Full Version : F4 Turnaround!!! Update.
I must say...
I am VERY impressed with the people at the ATF! There is something positive going on at the WV NFA branch, my Form 4 was processed in 15 working days!!!
Check Cashed: 8/29
Approved: 9/18
IN HANDS 9/25!!!
The forms were sent a few days prior of cashing, but that really does not matter...
This was an individual suppressor transfer, but this is my 3rd Form 4 and I have a Form 1, maybe because I have paperwork on the books to speed things up?
I see this as a serious problem... I am an NFA crackhead and I have a .45 can in my sights...
I'll tell you, if you want to add a suppressor to your collection of goodies, NOW is the time! Turnarounds are QUICK! My last one was 33 days and I thought that was fast....
Pics will soon follow... Im just waiting for the forms to get to my dealer!!!
Guy at the local club said that his turn around was 22 days. It appears that the ATF is speeding things up a bit.
C4
I mailed mine out on August 24th and it came back approved September 18th. That's mailbox to mailbox.
Voodoochild
09-21-06, 12:31
Damn that is quick are you all doing the individual route or Trust or LLC?
I went with a Trust.
Mailed 8/23 and approved 9/19. Not in hand yet...
Form 4 for suppressor BTW.
Mine's a trust, and it was a Form 4 for an SBR.
Damn that is quick are you all doing the individual route or Trust or LLC?
Mine was individual, I was going to go Trust, but my CLEO has no problems with Class 3!
Looks like Suicide and I mailed about the same time!
I sent mine out Sept 4th (my b-day and a gift to myself ;) ), so hopefully it'll be here soon. This is my first NFA item (SBR), so I'm kinda expecting it to take a little while longer.
Were any of these quick turn-arounds for first timers?
Were any of these quick turn-arounds for first timers?
Mine was approved in 16 days. First time for me. Form 4, Trust. My Form 1 was sent the same day (8-21) and the check has been cashed but I haven't seen anything yet.
Were any of these quick turn-arounds for first timers?
My last one wasn't my first, but my first one took about the same amount of time. It got held up a bit because they lost (or I forgot to send) my trust paperwork. If I remember correctly I got my notice that I needed to send it in about a month after I sent the original form and check. I can only assume that if they had the paperwork that they needed at that time I would have gotten the approval.
Forms were in my grubby hands 9/25.
EVO-9.
Fun.
Yes, I am a pepper eatin' mother-trucker.
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GastonG-NoVa
09-27-06, 16:09
TWO WEEKS....5 DAYS.....paper work is back at my dealer!!!!
WOW....ATF is on top of things it appears.
Got a M4-2000 5.56 can.
Got my suppressor on the 24th- paperwork was back at dealer on the 23rd.
My first time.
Mailed individual transfer form 4 on 9/5,check cashed 9/12, pending on 9/19, and approved on 9/25. Paperwork came in 9/29.
24 days mailbox to mailbox:D
Wow, that is impressive. My form-4's came back in 33 days and I was doing handstands I was so happy. It took NFA Branch one year 10 months to get back to me. I called and called inquiring about an item I applied for... and when they finally got back to me they said I needed to re-apply with the new forms. Sometime from the time I sent the forms in, to the time they got back to me...there had been a change in the forms. Nice...
Anyway, glad to hear they are turning things around now quickly.
Buy up now guys...
Y-
I got my 07 in two months! Pretty good I think.
C4
Wow!
This one came back! I know its only been about a momth, but I got ANOTHER CAN last week!.
Its the YHM .556/223.
Awesome. Not too much louder than the m42k and cheaper!
For those VA folks: GO to the Armory, MARIE will hook you up. A nicely priced can and HEARING safe!
The ATF is turning its wheels!
Derek_Connor
11-07-06, 17:28
ATF is really cranking I tell ya.
They got my FORM 4 on Thursday of last week (2 Nov), check was cashed yesterday.
Im going for the record...:)
I'm about to get my first can, so I have to wait 'til my FFL/SOT has the can and then submit the F4 correct?....Oh yeah my Form1 was about 1 month, mailbox to malbox...:D
Nathan_Bell
12-04-06, 09:42
Mailed my f4 out this morning, now just have to wait.:(
I don't know if this is a record but it might be.
I transfered a suppressor to an individual (not a trust) and the form 4 only took 7 business days to approve and get back to me. Hell, the form 3 transfer took longer then that!
That's right, 7 business days, from the time the ATF received it until I got it in the mail. :eek:
I guess its hit or miss.
My RR M16 hasnt even transferred to the dealer yet! :( Its been about 6wks.
I guess its hit or miss.
My RR M16 hasnt even transferred to the dealer yet! :( Its been about 6wks.
How well do you know the dealer? I often suspect that the dealers don't do things when and as quickly as they say they do.
How well do you know the dealer? I often suspect that the dealers don't do things when and as quickly as they say they do.
not very well. But he is on subguns list of "reputable dealers".
not very well. But he is on subguns list of "reputable dealers".
I don't think it's malicious or criminal or anything, I just don't think they're as excited as we are since they have no personal stock in receiving it.
David, first your using the wrong dealer, IMHO. ;)
Second, my form 3's are running about 15 - 30 days on average, something that should only really take a few days, but that's another story.
Form 4's out to customers are going 30 - 90 days on average, with the one at 7 days being an outlier.
David, first your using the wrong dealer, IMHO. ;)
Second, my form 3's are running about 15 - 30 days on average, something that should only really take a few days, but that's another story.
Form 4's out to customers are going 30 - 90 days on average, with the one at 7 days being an outlier.
I used Harlan because he had the M42k in stock and I gotta spread the love around anyway. :)
When it comes time to buy my 9mm upper and suppressor, you know where Ill be going ;)
Derek_Connor
12-07-06, 13:16
Forgot to update earlier...
13 days from door to door form my Form 4, transferred to a trust. My first form 4, but I had a form 1 previous to that, so my trust was already processed before.
35 calendar days from when the 2 Form 4s (SBR & Suppressor) went into the mail box to BATF&E, to when I got the call from my FFL/SOT (2 days ago) that the Forms were back with the Stamps and items ready to be picked up. These were regular submissions (CLEO signoffs, fingereprints, etc.), not Trust or LLC.
Edited to add: P.S., if you ever need a good FFL/SOT in Nrothern VA for an NFA transfer, call Farrokh at Innovative Tactical Solutions. Great experience from start to finish -- would use him again in a heartbeat (and surely will . . . )
Nathan_Bell
01-19-07, 22:03
Mailbox to mailbox Dec 4 to January 19. Considering the holidays falling in there not too shabby.
Individual, not trust or corp
quick question guys,
Do I need to fill out proof of citezenship fomrs when using a trust?
Yes. I am 99% sure you must but you may not have to.
I am SBRing my lower now and I will fill out a citizenship form. Thanks for reminding me. I forgot about that part. I was hoping to have it all done this weekend.
Robb Jensen
01-21-07, 05:58
quick question guys,
Do I need to fill out proof of citezenship fomrs when using a trust?
Yes. Just one per NFA.
OK so I need my form 4 and 1 cert. of compliance per NFA, and cert. of trust. Im using a trust so that all I need to send, right?
quick question guys,
Do I need to fill out proof of citezenship fomrs when using a trust?
I didn't. I have three transfers on my trust in the last year. I just fill out the form 4 and include a copy of my trust.
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