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Many of you have seen glimpses of Arisaka products in the BCM KMR and Magpul M-Lok threads, as well as some of the various picture threads spread across m4carbine.net, but I'd like to formally introduce everyone to our company and product line, and invite questions, discussion, and feedback. I also want to thank G&R for running this forum and allowing us to contribute.
Arisaka is a design and manufacturing company based out of Apex, NC. The company is run by myself (Will) and my close friend Walter, and we employ several of our family members. All of our products are entirely manufactured in the USA. Additional background details about Arisaka can be found at http://arisakadefense.com/pages/about-us.
Our initial product offering includes a line of light mounts and control accessories for KeyMod, M-Lok, and Centurion CMR handguards. The following is a brief overview of our product line. The majority of the photos are provided by UWone77 (Richdkim on m4c) and Stickman.
Inline Scout Mount - Designed primarily for KeyMod and M-Lok handguards with 45 degree mounting surfaces like the BCM KMR and Geissele MK8, the inline scout mount places M300 and M600 Scout lights very close to the handguard. The mount features three lateral positions for the Scout light, allowing you to tuck it up close to the top Picatinny rail or give more clearance around wider front sights. The base of the Scout light sits 0.200" above the KeyMod or M-Lok mounting surface, so it's extremely low profile.
http://i.imgur.com/kjdLZc8l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iy4kGbNl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ML5f25Hl.jpg
Ring Light Mount - Available for KeyMod, M-Lok, and CMR, the ring light mount uses a vertically secured closed ring to clamp a light in place. Two ring sizes can accommodate lights with diameters from 1.00-1.03" and 0.84-0.88".
http://i.imgur.com/RDLDq7Ul.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L11bqGOl.jpg
Finger Stop - Available or KeyMod, M-Lok, and CMR, the finger stop is meant to be placed further forward on the handguard, between your index and middle fingers. It can also be used as a forward hand stop. Several customers have told me that it works for their setup as a rear hand stop, although this wasn't my original intent when I designed the part.
http://i.imgur.com/Y0ZJp9Xl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iE1TEAil.jpg
QD Mount - A low profile QD mount for M-Lok handguards. Not much to be said about it. :)
http://i.imgur.com/fweB2H9l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZZD50onl.jpg
While our current product lineup isn't very broad, we do have a few new parts in production right now. The first is a minimal vertical grip which will be available for all three handguard interfaces.
http://i.imgur.com/JktUvAWl.jpg
Second is a streamlined mini-Scout body which will allow a wider range of front sight compatibility when used with our inline scout mount on handguards like the BCM KMR, KAC URX4, and Geissele MK8. In particular, the mini-Scout body does not include the Picatinny mount wings, which are main clearance issue with Diamondhead and Troy front folding sights. You'll also be able to "build" your own mini-Scout by using a Malkoff E1/Scout head and Surefire Z68 tailcap. Both these and the vertical grips will hopefully be available by the end of December.
http://i.imgur.com/UYTwZdEl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cdtYCwvl.jpg
We have a whole list of additional products waiting to go into production, so 2015 should be an exciting year for us. If you have any questions or comments please feel free to post, and you can contact me here on the forums by PM or email - will@arisakadefense.com.
treadwisely
12-04-14, 11:55
Excellent line of products. May pick up one of your light mounts eventually. Clean website design as well!
Pappabear and I have been running some of these products, and they are solid.
Voodoo_Man
12-04-14, 12:24
http://i.imgur.com/h6hoeMG.jpg
Awesome stuff!
I came here thinking that I was about to see a tacticalized WWII Arisaka.
I really like what I see though.
I came here thinking that I was about to see a tacticalized WWII Arisaka.
I really like what I see though.
Ditto. I was wondering what this was doing in AR GD and why would someone mount a light to an Arisaka? lol,
Loving my ring mount and have a finger stop on the way of BCM ever decides to ship it.
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jcalvert86
12-04-14, 13:19
Any chance you'll offer a light package (the malkoff head & SF tailcap) when the light bodies are done?
Any chance you'll offer a light package (the malkoff head & SF tailcap) when the light bodies are done?
Probably not. We can't get wholesale pricing on the tail caps or malkoff heads, so financially it doesn't make sense.
Pappabear and I have been running some of these products, and they are solid.
Very much so. Nice, clean, and well thought out products.
I received my M-Lok inline Scout light mount today and it is very nice. I wanted to let you guys know that it works perfectly with the ALG Defense M-Lok tubes, like it was made specifically for it, especially in the 10:30 position. Looking forward to seeing the minimized "Scout" body from Will.
https://33.media.tumblr.com/4aec54778a2d6b42ea7b439ced9afe4d/tumblr_ng2y95S8Pl1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg
.46caliber
12-04-14, 18:54
Very cool stuff. I've got your MLok light mount on my Christmas list.
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Looking forward to seeing the minimized "Scout" body from Will.
Me too. I already have malkof and clicky inbound.
Does your ring light mount CMR fit the LMT LM8 MRP?
Does your ring light mount CMR fit the LMT LM8 MRP?
The hole spacing on the mount is 0.788" from center to center. The hole size is for 8-32 screws. If the LM8 uses those screws and has the same spacing, then it will fit, but just remember our cmr mounts are contoured on the back for the cmr rails.
calviroman
12-05-14, 08:37
I've been running their Keymod Scout mount on two SBRs for about a month or so...IMHO its a perfect Scout mount. Machining is perfect and smooth, finish is tough and perfectly applied, and it only weighs 0.65 ounces with all hardware.
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/calviroman/6933/20141108_103005_zpsadd13411.jpg (http://s921.photobucket.com/user/calviroman/media/6933/20141108_103005_zpsadd13411.jpg.html)
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/calviroman/6933/20141108_102836_zps3e07dc51.jpg (http://s921.photobucket.com/user/calviroman/media/6933/20141108_102836_zps3e07dc51.jpg.html)
Second is a streamlined mini-Scout body which will allow a wider range of front sight compatibility when used with our inline scout mount on handguards like the BCM KMR, KAC URX4, and Geissele MK8. In particular, the mini-Scout body does not include the Picatinny mount wings, which are main clearance issue with Diamondhead and Troy front folding sights. You'll also be able to "build" your own mini-Scout by using a Malkoff E1/Scout head and Surefire Z68 tailcap. Both these and the vertical grips will hopefully be available by the end of December.
E1/Scout heads are sold out already according the the Malkoff website. This looks awesome however, looking forward to putting my mitts on one, nicely done.
vicious_cb
12-05-14, 19:51
Interesting. So is this scout light body will be compatible with any scout light head like a KE1A and tail cap from surefire? I currently run a scout light head on a E1D. Being able to simply switch out the body to from a picatiny mount to keymod would be great.
Interesting. So is this scout light body will be compatible with any scout light head like a KE1A and tail cap from surefire? I currently run a scout light head on a E1D. Being able to simply switch out the body to from a picatiny mount to keymod would be great.
Yes, it can use any E1 or 3 volt Scout head, and tailcap. Same threads, o-ring sealed, etc.
jcalvert86
12-06-14, 13:04
Me too. I already have malkof and clicky inbound.
Mind sharing where you ordered the malkoff and tailcap from?
Probably pick them up in anticipation of the Arisaka body release.
Mind sharing where you ordered the malkoff and tailcap from?
Probably pick them up in anticipation of the Arisaka body release.
I'm not markm, but the heads come from malkoff, direct. The z68 tailcap can be found on Amazon with free shipping for about $30-35.
If malkoff is out of stock I recommend sending them an email. I was in touch with them a few weeks ago and they said they had more parts for the E1/Scout head in stock, and only had to assemble them.
Ditto. I was wondering what this was doing in AR GD and why would someone mount a light to an Arisaka? lol,
LOL, same here... I thought I was going to see some Bubba's coon hunting or road hunting setup, posted in the wrong forum.
Looks like good stuff. I have to say though, in the world of "gun guys," that name is going to make most who haven't heard of you think you are making products for the old Jap rifle.
Very cool stuff! Nice sight as well!
I do not believe it has been asked yet, but are there any plans to introduce a picatinny line?
Very cool stuff! Nice sight as well!
I do not believe it has been asked yet, but are there any plans to introduce a picatinny line?
We've had quite a few inquiries about picatinny accessories. I am a huge fan of Gear Sector, and I really like many of the parts Jason makes. It would be a tougher market for Arisaka to enter, in my opinion. This doesn't mean we won't, but for now we're focusing on the newer rail interfaces because there's a fairly significant void that we can create good products for.
I'm not markm, but the heads come from malkoff, direct. The z68 tailcap can be found on Amazon with free shipping for about $30-35.
If malkoff is out of stock I recommend sending them an email. I was in touch with them a few weeks ago and they said they had more parts for the E1/Scout head in stock, and only had to assemble them.
This is correct. Direct from Malkoff. And the tail caps are all over the place.
We've had quite a few inquiries about picatinny accessories. I am a huge fan of Gear Sector, and I really like many of the parts Jason makes. It would be a tougher market for Arisaka to enter, in my opinion. This doesn't mean we won't, but for now we're focusing on the newer rail interfaces because there's a fairly significant void that we can create good products for.
Thanks for the reply ! You guys have a very nice product line developed so far and I look forward to seeing what else you guys can come up with. Unfortunately for me I am still 'last gen' and running a pic rail system for now. Got a buddy who just purchased a KMR though and has been looking at new light mounts so ill definitely point him your way.
Still waiting very patiently on the mini scout bodies lol
Still waiting very patiently on the mini scout bodies lol
They're at the anodizer. :)
The holidays really slow things down because most places are a week behind after Thanksgiving, and then shipping takes longer through December due to all the gift traffic. I'm still hoping we have them available before Christmas.
We've begun to spec out the M600 length scout bodies, too.
They're at the anodizer. :)
The holidays really slow things down because most places are a week behind after Thanksgiving, and then shipping takes longer through December due to all the gift traffic. I'm still hoping we have them available before Christmas.
We've begun to spec out the M600 length scout bodies, too.
Most exhilarating. Haha
Re: the 600 bodies does anyone one currently produce a compatible high output single mode head module? Other than surefire of course. The E2s that malkoff sells are multi-mode.
Most exhilarating. Haha
Re: the 600 bodies does anyone one currently produce a compatible high output single mode head module? Other than surefire of course. The E2s that malkoff sells are multi-mode.
The specific malkoff E2/Scout model is single mode.
The specific malkoff E2/Scout model is single mode.
You are 100% correct. Apologies. My reading comp is a bit lackadaisical this early in the am. I was browsing the p60 drop ins.
Eurodriver
12-10-14, 06:34
Saw the email from BCM on these.
I've never seen that before. They must really like them.
Saw the email from BCM on these.
I've never seen that before. They must really like them.
How could they not? Gives the keymod a real boost. At some point I'd like to have two mini scouts on one KMR... 11 and 1 oclock.
Eurodriver
12-10-14, 07:17
How could they not? Gives the keymod a real boost. At some point I'd like to have two mini scouts on one KMR... 11 and 1 oclock.
Because one is none, right?!?
Because one is none, right?!?
I have a double mount from GearSecter. I just have my lights spread across too many guns to use it right now. I loved having a two light gun. With the Arisaka/KMR combo, the weight and bulk of this will be much more manageable.
Twin lights for you mark :)
http://i.imgur.com/9n9FBva.jpg
That's what my KMR will look like eventually.
Will a Saker still fit with the light extending out past the mount like that?
If I had another 5 heads and tail caps I could mount 7 just for fun once the finished bodies are done.
Voodoo_Man
12-10-14, 08:11
two is one and one is none! Nice pix!
Will a Saker still fit with the light extending out past the mount like that?
Yes, no problems.
Eurodriver
12-10-14, 08:41
I think that would do a good job of emphasizing how slim they are.
jcalvert86
12-10-14, 10:32
Response from Malkoff: looks like a few more weeks before they have parts to start assembling more of the E1 mini scout heads.
Malkoff's timing will be just about right, I'd say.
Sorry if this has been covered, but is there any plan for a 620 mount?
Sorry if this has been covered, but is there any plan for a 620 mount?
Yes, an M620 mount is on the list.
Jwknutson17
12-10-14, 12:21
Yes, an M620 mount is on the list.
Put me on the list. I need one... Like yesterday. Glad to hear that they will be finally a good option to mount M620s on KMR's 11 and 1 slots.
Put me on the list. I need one... Like yesterday. Glad to hear that they will be finally a good option to mount M620s on KMR's 11 and 1 slots.
I just hope it works with my SOCOM and current hand position.
I guess I could always try an SR-07.
If I had another 5 heads and tail caps I could mount 7 just for fun once the finished bodies are done.
If you mounted 7 of these you might not need bullets. Just fire up the lights and burn eyes from skull...
http://www.surefire.com/illumination/flashlights/udr-dominator.html
visualnewbie
12-10-14, 18:38
We've begun to spec out the M600 length scout bodies, too.
Will this body be able to also accept a 18650 battery?
Will this body be able to also accept a 18650 battery?
If a stock m600 body can, then yes.
MM was nice enough to do a write-up and post a bunch of pictures of the ring light mount and inline scout mount on his various setups: http://www.militarymorons.com/weapons/wlights4.html#arisaka
Just a little update. Mini scout bodies are scheduled to be back from ano on Monday, and will probably be available the following week after I return from Christmas.
Today I received a 3d printed prototype of the upcoming 45 degree scout mount. The KeyMod version will use BCM's proprietary reverse threaded torx screws, which allows us to make the mount about 4mm thick. The prototype shown below is very simplified without the usual styling of our products, since trying to 3d print too much detail looks like crap. Otherwise it's completely functional. There are 4 lateral positions for mounting the light, and it fits very snug on the Noveske NSR.
In the pictures the light is positioned in the 2nd location on the mount closest to the top Picatinny rail.
http://i.imgur.com/4mMvcp5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/18QPlWe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LHWqnY8.jpg
Voodoo_Man
12-20-14, 08:35
yesssss
Very sweet. Now only if malkoff can get the scout heads back in stock soon.
Wow. That's cool too. These Scout Bodies are going to prove to be a really versatile option.
Just a little update. Mini scout bodies are scheduled to be back from ano on Monday, and will probably be available the following week after I return from Christmas.
Today I received a 3d printed prototype of the upcoming 45 degree scout mount. The KeyMod version will use BCM's proprietary reverse threaded torx screws, which allows us to make the mount about 4mm thick. The prototype shown below is very simplified without the usual styling of our products, since trying to 3d print too much detail looks like crap. Otherwise it's completely functional. There are 4 lateral positions for mounting the light, and it fits very snug on the Noveske NSR.
In the pictures the light is positioned in the 2nd location on the mount closest to the top Picatinny rail.
http://i.imgur.com/4mMvcp5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/18QPlWe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LHWqnY8.jpg
Very nice! That actually looks like an improvement on the KAC mount. This may be a dumb question, but will that mount work with a standard Scout body also?
Very nice! That actually looks like an improvement on the KAC mount. This may be a dumb question, but will that mount work with a standard Scout body also?
Perfectly valid question. Yes, works with any m300 or m600 body.
Perfectly valid question. Yes, works with any m300 or m600 body.
Very nice. I really like my KAC mount, but the only issue I have with it is the inability to mount in certain locations on a KMR due to contact with the front sight body. Being able to move the light a fraction further outward would be excellent.
Very nice. I really like my KAC mount, but the only issue I have with it is the inability to mount in certain locations on a KMR due to contact with the front sight body. Being able to move the light a fraction further outward would be excellent.
Not to toot my own horn, but that's another reason we're making the mini scout bodies. The Picatinny mount lugs on the stock scout body get in the way quite a bit.
Not to toot my own horn, but that's another reason we're making the mini scout bodies. The Picatinny mount lugs on the stock scout body get in the way quite a bit.
For sure, the redesigned body is ingenious. In my case, the head of the Scout was the issue. Being able to shift it outward will be perfect for me. So, when? :D
For sure, the redesigned body is ingenious. In my case, the head of the Scout was the issue. Being able to shift it outward will be perfect for me. So, when? :D
Ah, the head. Here is the worst case scenario; Diamondhead front sight with M300B. Light is mounted in the furthest offset position. There is about 20 thousandths clearance between the light head and the front sight. If you use a stock Scout body, you have more overhang from the Picatinny mount, which would be the only drawback.
Edit: If using any other handguard there will be more clearance, because AFAIK nothing is quite as slim as an NSR at 1.48" width.
http://i.imgur.com/VOuFpdz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/13G598p.jpg
Forgot to answer your question mtdawg. As long as shipments arrive and QC checks out, we'll be shipping light bodies the week after Christmas.
Here's an end-on profile shot showing the main difference between stock (left) and Arisaka (right) bodies.
http://i.imgur.com/mPphHic.jpg
Voodoo_Man
12-21-14, 13:01
Need!
BH SHOOTER
12-21-14, 13:38
Really liking that finger stop of yours a lot on the KMR. So simple, just makes sense. Nice work!
MikeDawg46L
12-22-14, 10:05
Great to see another company from my neck of the woods putting out good kit. I'd love to come by and see the shop sometime Will. I'm in for a M-series CMR mount when available. My coyote-slayer needs some 'luminate'n.
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Great to see another company from my neck of the woods putting out good kit. I'd love to come by and see the shop sometime Will. I'm in for a M-series CMR mount when available. My coyote-slayer needs some 'luminate'n.
The machine shop where we manufacture all our parts is in Nebraska, run by Walt. I handle all the final assembly and shipping out of North Carolina, so there's basically nothing to see. All the cool CNC machines are with Walt. :)
MikeDawg46L
12-22-14, 19:59
The machine shop where we manufacture all our parts is in Nebraska, run by Walt. I handle all the final assembly and shipping out of North Carolina, so there's basically nothing to see. All the cool CNC machines are with Walt. :)
Well that doesn't sound any different than a day in my office!
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Just noticed there's an mlok version of the light mount. Now my wallet is 40 bucks lighter
Just noticed there's an mlok version of the light mount. Now my wallet is 40 bucks lighter
Thank you! I was on the road yesterday, but I'm packing up your mount right now for shipment today.
Thank you! I was on the road yesterday, but I'm packing up your mount right now for shipment today.
Awesomeness! Honestly, from NC, it will probably beat me home since we'll be traveling for Christmas lol
Eurodriver
12-23-14, 09:37
I hate sounding like an idiot, but I'm confused.
Can someone break it down barney style for me?
Will I be able to use an OEM Scout body with a mount Arisaka will be selling? Do I have to use the Arisaka body? Is the body/mount one piece?
I hate sounding like an idiot, but I'm confused.
Can someone break it down barney style for me?
Will I be able to use an OEM Scout body with a mount Arisaka will be selling? Do I have to use the Arisaka body? Is the body/mount one piece?
Our inline scout mount and upcoming 45 degree scout mount can use any OEM M300 or M600 body, as well as the new Arisaka mini scout body.
Likewise, our new mini-scout body is compatible with all E1/scout heads and tail caps, and fits on any aftermarket scout mount (i.e. gear sector).
Sorry if this wasn't clear. :) We try to keep it simple, and not create proprietary setups that force you to use something you don't want to purchase.
Press Check
12-23-14, 12:09
Our inline scout mount and upcoming 45 degree scout mount can use any OEM M300 or M600 body, as well as the new Arisaka mini scout body.
Likewise, our new mini-scout body is compatible with all E1/scout heads and tail caps, and fits on any aftermarket scout mount (i.e. gear sector).
Sorry if this wasn't clear. :) We try to keep it simple, and not create proprietary setups that force you to use something you don't want to purchase.
With the KMR, what's the benefit or difference in using one over the other; inline mount versus the 45 degree mount? I'm using Diamondhead BUIS.
I think the 45 offers the option for non KMR handguards that don't have the 45 degree slots.... like the Noveske Keymod rail for example.
If you have a KMR, you might as well use the inline.
The 45 version gives you more clearance than the inline because the inline mount can only be so wide due to the width of the mounting surface. However, the light will sit slightly higher off the 45 flat because it has to be designed to fit over the curve on the NSR, whereas the KMR has two flat surfaces and abrupt angle.
If you're using diamondhead sights and a stock scout body you can use the inline mount on the KMR if you put the light on the left side. Right side won't fit unless you change to our scout body or use our upcoming 45 scout mount. Or move the light forward and sights back, etc.
Final bodies. First pic test fit pre-final machining. Second pic post-final machining. Each end has to be milled to expose the raw aluminum so it can conduct for the tail cap and light head, hence the silver rings on the end.
http://i.imgur.com/HWOtabJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZPSudQH.jpg
Looks good, z68 cap is on the way, waiting for the Malkoff head to be available and the bodies to be officially for sale
You need to make a mount for CMR and LMT LM8 rails that will accommodate a Surefire M600 scout light.
Slippers,
My apologies if it's been noted previously I missed it if it was. Has the price point on the scout light bodies been released? I'm trying to budget out how many I need. Thanks
Is the scout body going to come with the orings, if not anyone know what size they are?
Is the scout body going to come with the orings, if not anyone know what size they are?
Good question. I doubt they come with the tail cap or Malkoff head.
Yes, o rings are included.
You need to make a mount for CMR and LMT LM8 rails that will accommodate a Surefire M600 scout light.
We'll do a short run of the 45 degree scout mounts for the CMR. Even with the benefits of our design it's hard to compete against centurion with their $7 scout mount.
Slippers,
My apologies if it's been noted previously I missed it if it was. Has the price point on the scout light bodies been released? I'm trying to budget out how many I need. Thanks
$59.
BUOPtimus Prime
12-25-14, 11:21
I really dig my Inline Scout Mount.
http://i.imgur.com/qcneCQY.jpg
So slipper when will you guys get some decals? My trusty Boomer tractor likes to get new decals to go with my new gear lol
So slipper when will you guys get some decals? My trusty Boomer tractor likes to get new decals to go with my new gear lol
Stickers and patches would be nice but probably not something we will have for a bit. Walt and I are trying to keep our costs down (and pass along the savings). That stuff can add up quick.
Understand totally. Hope you guys see the success necessary for such frivolty
Eta
Can only speak for myself but I'd be willing to pay for such frivolous items :D
Woo Hoo! Got my Malkoff head and SF clicky today. 1 step closer to keymod illumination perfection.
Woo Hoo! Got my Malkoff head and SF clicky today. 1 step closer to keymod illumination perfection.
And not a picture to ogle over. Wtf man. Lol
Do not under estimate your ability to do a scout mount for CMR and LMT LM8. Consumer service at Centurion Arms leaves a lot to be desired.
You need to make a mount for CMR and LMT LM8 rails that will accommodate a Surefire M600 scout light.
Do not under estimate your ability to do a scout mount for CMR and LMT LM8. Consumer service at Centurion Arms leaves a lot to be desired.
I admire your determination my friend.
bowman57_2
12-25-14, 18:55
markm, where did you get the malkoff head? on the website it still shows sold out. if i bought a malkoff head could i use the bulb from the original surefire head to get the longer runtime and lower lumens back or would i need some kind of conversion kit or new bulb?
Thanks. I was taught to never give up.
markm, where did you get the malkoff head? on the website it still shows sold out. if i bought a malkoff head could i use the bulb from the original surefire head to get the longer runtime and lower lumens back or would i need some kind of conversion kit or new bulb?
I ordered it on the Malkoff website the second I found out the bodies from ARISAKA were a go. :cool:
Love the simplicity and effectiveness of the finger stop.
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z59/dbtrackz33/AR15/DSC01210_zpszi1lnvjz.jpg
Recieved my keymod inline scout mount today. M300b should be here in a few days, all i need is the Arisaka scout body.
Putting together the replacement light. :cool:
(crappy pic of the Arisaka Mini scout body assembly next to the monster it will replace)
http://i59.tinypic.com/i23q5d.jpg
mkmckinley
12-27-14, 12:41
Markm I'm just catching up. Is that an Arisaka body, Malkoff head and Surefire switch? What did it run you in total?
Putting together the replacement light. :cool:
(crappy pic of the Arisaka Mini scout body assembly next to the monster it will replace)
http://i59.tinypic.com/i23q5d.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/27/7f27e5ae97d742ef50269e4eea4943d9.jpg
Yup.
What's so special about the Malkoff heads?
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What's so special about the Malkoff heads?
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They're a nice alternative to surefire heads. $79, made in the USA, more spill, more compact and a hair lighter. Good for building a light. If you already have a surefire head there's no need to switch unless you really want more spill.
militarymoron
12-27-14, 15:51
What's so special about the Malkoff heads?
They're good quality, brighter and less than 1/2 the price of a surefire head. Not many affordable aftermarket replacement heads for scout lights.
bowman57_2
12-27-14, 18:22
so are we still looking at this week for the mini scout bodies?
so are we still looking at this week for the mini scout bodies?
Yessirreebob. They're done, but waiting on me to o-ring and package. I'm still with my family for the holiday. :)
Our solidworks engineer Andy air-guitaring earlier today with a KMR and milled prototype 45 degree scout mount, and new scout body. It's a bit messy because we didn't have the right tool on hand and had to make lots of small passes on the angled portion. Obviously this won't be an issue on the production run.
http://i.imgur.com/STniFer.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kD3ZgUG.jpg
Markm I'm just catching up. Is that an Arisaka body, Malkoff head and Surefire switch? What did it run you in total?
I think for just the light, around 130ish... plus $34 for the inline mount when they're back in stock. The balance of Size, quality of lighting, and price? There's no beating it.
They're a nice alternative to surefire heads. $79, made in the USA, more spill, more compact and a hair lighter. Good for building a light. If you already have a surefire head there's no need to switch unless you really want more spill.
They're good quality, brighter and less than 1/2 the price of a surefire head. Not many affordable aftermarket replacement heads for scout lights.
Oh so it's not so much of an upgrade for the Scout, but more of a budget alternative.
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militarymoron
12-27-14, 23:02
Oh so it's not so much of an upgrade for the Scout, but more of a budget alternative.
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well, the surefire KE1A head is 200 lumens and the malkoff is 280 lumens, so it's an upgrade in brightness.
well, the surefire KE1A head is 200 lumens and the malkoff is 280 lumens, so it's an upgrade in brightness.
Yeah. I was beaming my living room wall last night. And not only is the Malkoff/Arisaka smaller and lighter, but the beam quality is clearly better... better spill, etc.
I hope malkoff realizes they will soon be selling a ships ton of heads and ramp up production accordingly lol. I'm in for atleast 2.
ETA:
I also hope they at some point in the future add a higher output head for the full size scout lights.
Malkoff has always had high demand. And it's not uncommon to be doing a lot of waiting for his various light heads. :(
Light mount was waiting on the porch when I got home yesterday. Very well made, clean machining and good finish. Feels rock solid. I think it would be a good buy for significantly more $$$....
Voodoo_Man
12-29-14, 19:44
http://i.imgur.com/oxdwXu2.jpg
They are on the web site for sale.
http://arisakadefense.com/collections/frontpage/products/300-series-light-body
Wow you guys...I haven't even done a news release on them yet. Thank you for your support! I literally just got off the road from a 9 hour drive and flipped the switch on the product page while sitting here putting on o-rings and packaging the bodies up.
My New Years Prediction for Will: lots of sitting there putting on o-rings and packaging the bodies up.
Boom. Ordered. Along with a KMR finger stop. Love the 3 dollar shipping. Thanks for not raping us on that.
Now cmon malkoff.
Boom. Ordered. Along with a KMR finger stop. Love the 3 dollar shipping. Thanks for not raping us on that.
Now cmon malkoff.
Thank you, and you're welcome. I *hate* it when I am forced to pay too much for shipping. There's that saying...do unto others...
Image courtesy of UWone77
http://i.imgur.com/NTGNjys.jpg
Beautiful.
Placed an order for the m300 scout body this evening.
Boom. Ordered. Along with a KMR finger stop. Love the 3 dollar shipping. Thanks for not raping us on that.
Now cmon malkoff.
Agreed. I was happy with the $7.00 Priority Mail shipping since I have 2 Malkoff heads and a couple of tail caps sitting here already.
Agreed. I was happy with the $7.00 Priority Mail shipping since I have 2 Malkoff heads and a couple of tail caps sitting here already.
Lucky.
Last night I did some more comparing of the Malkoff head to my regular Solarforce LED light, and it's SO MUCH better. I shot the beams into a longer room, and the smaller Malkoff/Arisaka gives a significantly better illumination of what's at the end of the room and what's all around the sides of the room.... and the Malkoff is brighter.
Damn fast shipping also. Impressive Slippers. I look forward to sending you more money in the future lol
Interested in an inline Scout to mount my M300 onto my KMR 13. Just want to make sure it will clear a Troy folding front sight if I mount it on the left side 45 degree section of the handguard.
Interested in an inline Scout to mount my M300 onto my KMR 13. Just want to make sure it will clear a Troy folding front sight if I mount it on the left side 45 degree section of the handguard.
Yes, works fine, as long as you don't intend for the head of your M300 to be right next to the sight. The body of the light where the mounting lugs reside will clear, though.
Order placed, thanks for the fast response
These pictures illustrate exactly why we made the light bodies. It shows a diamondhead front sight with the new 300 series light body mounted in the center location on the inline scout mount. Fits with just a few thousandths of clearance. You literally cannot tuck the light in any closer to the front sight. This mounting placement is impossible with the stock scout body, even using the right-most offset on our inline scout mount.
http://i.imgur.com/IWFPTHX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/15nWBQE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jCVsDX2.jpg
Thank you, and you're welcome. I *hate* it when I am forced to pay too much for shipping. There's that saying...do unto others...
Reasonable shipping charges are appreciated. Given the fact that USPS, UPS and FedEx all have flat rate shipping options, the amount some places charge for small parts is just stupid. No in fact I'm not paying 19.99 s/h for a part that will fit in an envelope....
Slippers, do the bodies come with the mounting screws that attach to the 300 body itself? I'll be using a spare gear sector mount I picked up and I just realized I don't have any extra screws or know what size they are for that matter.
Slippers, do the bodies come with the mounting screws that attach to the 300 body itself? I'll be using a spare gear sector mount I picked up and I just realized I don't have any extra screws or know what size they are for that matter.
No, every aftermarket mount out there may use different screws. For instance, our inline mounts use low profile cap screws, while the gear sector mounts have flat heads. The thread for the 300 series bodies (and OEM scout bodies) is 8-32.
My mini scout does not fit using the kac mk18 front sight and the arisaka inline scout keymod mount on a KMR at 45 degrees.
Hopefully the arisaka m300 body helps. (Looks like it will by the small amount of clearance i need)
No, every aftermarket mount out there may use different screws. For instance, our inline mounts use low profile cap screws, while the gear sector mounts have flat heads. The thread for the 300 series bodies (and OEM scout bodies) is 8-32.
Ah, point noted. 8/32s are easy enough to track down. Much obliged.
My mini scout does not fit using the kac mk18 front sight and the arisaka inline scout keymod mount on a KMR at 45 degrees.
Hopefully the arisaka m300 body helps. (Looks like it will by the small amount of clearance i need)
I assume you're running the light on the right side? MM had the same problem with the OEM body, even using the offset position on the inline mount. The Picatinny lugs on the OEM body really do interfere with everything, especially when you have the light on the right side of the handguard.
Press Check
12-30-14, 19:29
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Press Check
12-30-14, 19:29
Lucky.
Last night I did some more comparing of the Malkoff head to my regular Solarforce LED light, and it's SO MUCH better. I shot the beams into a longer room, and the smaller Malkoff/Arisaka gives a significantly better illumination of what's at the end of the room and what's all around the sides of the room.... and the Malkoff is brighter.
How much does your Malkoff / Arisaka weigh?
I've been waiting for the Malkoff heads to come back in stock.
With batteries removed, my M300B (KE1A head, OEM body, Z68 tail) is 2.7 oz. My Malkoff E1/Scout head with Z68 and Arisaka 300 series is 2.3 oz.
Yes the light is on the right side using the inline scout mount. At the furthest hole (away from the top of the rail) the m300 mount hits the front sight to the point i can install the setup where i want it.
If arisaka didnt come out with the m300 body, some machine work would be in order.
Press Check
12-30-14, 22:00
These pictures illustrate exactly why we made the light bodies. It shows a diamondhead front sight with the new 300 series light body mounted in the center location on the inline scout mount. Fits with just a few thousandths of clearance. You literally cannot tuck the light in any closer to the front sight. This mounting placement is impossible with the stock scout body, even using the right-most offset on our inline scout mount.
Wow, that set-up is ridiculously nice, Will. I have the BCM-marked Diamond Head sights.
Thank you, Will, for sitting there last night putting on my o-rings and packaging my body and mount up less than 12 hours after I ordered.
Wow, that set-up is ridiculously nice, Will. I have the BCM-marked Diamond Head sights.
If you go this route, you'll have to take the light head off while putting it on the handguard. Otherwise the head interferes with the front sight while you're sliding the mount forward in the keymod slots. Not a big deal.
Thank you, Will, for sitting there last night putting on my o-rings and packaging my body and mount up less than 12 hours after I ordered.
Yesterday was...insane. Everyone that placed an order before 5pm EST had their parts make it to the post office in time, but barely. Today will be short for Arisaka. Time to party. :)
Thank you guys for your support! Happy New Years Eve!
Eurodriver
12-31-14, 07:19
So I need to order the 300 Series Scout body and the inline scout mount keymod and this will work with my KMR and troy BUIS?
So I need to order the 300 Series Scout body and the inline scout mount keymod and this will work with my KMR and troy BUIS?
You only need the light body if you intend to run your scout on the right side of the handguard. And even then, there are certain positions that will still work, like if you cantilever the light forward as far as the inline scout mount lets you.
If you run your light on the left side of the KMR, you don't need the light body.
Rx'd shipping notice for the m300 scout body. Thanks for working through the Holiday season. I was expecting shipment confirmation after the 5th of January.
Eurodriver
12-31-14, 12:01
You only need the light body if you intend to run your scout on the right side of the handguard. And even then, there are certain positions that will still work, like if you cantilever the light forward as far as the inline scout mount lets you.
If you run your light on the left side of the KMR, you don't need the light body.
I do run it on the left. Appreciate the quick response!
Edit: Duh, all of this info is on your website. My bad.
I'm even more confused now, though. How do you tighten the keymod screws when the light is mounted? Remove the tailcap?
I'm even more confused now, though. How do you tighten the keymod screws when the light is mounted? Remove the tailcap?
Yep. That's my understanding.
I did at total tard move when I got my Mini scout body. I tried putting the Battery in from the tail cap end. (I was stumped for a full day before the light went on in the old noggin.)
Eurodriver
12-31-14, 12:17
Oh Mark....
There's like 87 results on Google about how to put 123As in an M300 body.
There's a good reason the scout has the battery inserted from the front. The OD of the rear threads is almost identical to the ID of the battery compartment, so if the ID was the same throughout the whole body the back end with the threads would fall off while being made. :)
And yes, tailcap removed to install. Designed this way to keep the mount as short as possible.
Voodoo_Man
12-31-14, 17:41
http://i.imgur.com/Knm2rvP.jpg
bowman57_2
12-31-14, 19:34
just ordered a mini scout body 2 nights ago. if i get a malkoff e1 head, would i be able to take the bulb assembly out of the stock surefire head and put it in the malkoff to keep the slightly lower lumens and longer run time but have the smaller malkoff head?
just ordered a mini scout body 2 nights ago. if i get a malkoff e1 head, would i be able to take the bulb assembly out of the stock surefire head and put it in the malkoff to keep the slightly lower lumens and longer run time but have the smaller malkoff head?
Aren't the surefire heads sealed units? I can't speak to the malkoff.
bowman57_2
12-31-14, 20:17
im not sure if its sealed or not. im just trying to find a way use the e1 head but have a little lower lumens and a longer run time.
Oh Mark....
There's like 87 results on Google about how to put 123As in an M300 body.
This is high society stuff for me. I'm still applying for a spot in Gun light charm school.
just ordered a mini scout body 2 nights ago. if i get a malkoff e1 head, would i be able to take the bulb assembly out of the stock surefire head and put it in the malkoff to keep the slightly lower lumens and longer run time but have the smaller malkoff head?
No. The malkoff unit inside the e1/scout head is potted. You can remove it from the bezel but you won't be able to fit the internals of the KE1A surefire head inside the malkoff unit, as the mirror is bigger and longer.
bowman57_2
01-01-15, 01:08
thanks for answering my question, guess ill just get the e1 anyway. markm seems to like it alot haha
One thing to keep in mind is that you don't really know how surefire measures their run time. The malkoff stays within 90% of max output for 45 minutes before it starts to drop off on a fresh battery. From my use, I don't think my KE1A is even close to that. The output starts to drop much sooner, and then gradually fades.
I've said it before, but the malkoff definitely has more spill and a nice transition from center hotspot outward. The KE1A has more throw, but a very abrupt transition from the center hot spot, and not much spill.
If I needed throw (for outdoor use), I'd be running an M600 Ultra, not an M300, but that's just my preferred choice.
jcalvert86
01-01-15, 22:10
Body and inline keymod mount ordered.. now to wait on Malkoff.
Just thinking out loud but is the following:
Malkoff VME head
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/malkoff-devices-flashlights/malkoff-devices-flashlight-parts/vme-malkoff-valiant-concepts-head
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/images/VME-head-07-10.jpg
Plus the malkoff m31 drop in
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/drop-in-mod/dropins-for-surefire-and-malkoff/m31s-to-fit-vme-head/m31-to-fit-vme-head
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/images/M61-surefire-drop-in-side.jpg
basically the same thing if not identical spec wise to the malkoff E1 scout head, and in stock? Difference being 30$ more
Yes, just slightly bigger and more expensive.
Press Check
01-03-15, 18:50
I'm assembling a light using the Arisaka body as a base for the assembly, which I just received today, and the machining and anodizing is exceptional, Will. The packaging is nice too.
I grabbed a Surefire tail cap, so I just need the E1 head, but according to Gene, the wait is "weeks," so I may resort to purchasing a Surefire KE1A head.
bowman57_2
01-04-15, 09:09
got my scout body in the the mail 2 days ago. very very nice and a hell of alot smaller than i expected. i like it
I received the mount the other day. I got it mounted up today and everything fits great. It put the light exactly where I wanted with no clearance issues. Thanks for the fast shipping and great product, I'll be back for more as needed.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/mike9250/001_zps46a968fa.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/mike9250/002_zps198dd02e.jpg
Yes, works fine, as long as you don't intend for the head of your M300 to be right next to the sight. The body of the light where the mounting lugs reside will clear, though.
Two thumbs way up
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7576/15999030419_186709b397_b.jpg
steyrman13
01-04-15, 20:47
Another great customer service testimony. I order the scout body and forgot to add the key mod mount to the cart before I ordered. This created two orders and two shipping charges. Will responded even on Sun. to refund the extra shipping charge and combine them in the same package! Thanks Will!
Got mine set up yesterday too. I'll get some pics up shortly. The light is so much more space efficient that I get a longer reach on the KMR. I picked up nearly 2" of reach over the old light.
Very cool setups everyone is posting. Looking forward to seeing yours too, mark. Now that you have a minimal "scout" it's hard to go back to a big 1" handheld, isn't it?
Vert grips are coming soon.
http://i.imgur.com/DM4QOt8.jpg
Now that you have a minimal "scout" it's hard to go back to a big 1" handheld, isn't it?
The only thing saving my 1" lights is that I've got too many ARs, and Malkoff has too few Scout heads. ;)
(Pappabear has some pics from yesterday)
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/trixiebud/BCMstuff/arisaka9_zps2eadb9e4.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/trixiebud/BCMstuff/arisaka10_zpse798c393.jpg
Sweet. I especially like how the malkoff head makes the entire light just a little slimmer and shorter, too.
Something else we're going to release this week besides our vertical grips is a handy little optic leveler tool. There are some out there that work in a similar fashion, but most are dedicated to Picatinny rails. Our design works on one piece scope mounts, like in the pictures below.
If you're not familiar with how the tool works: you place your scope in the rings or mount, loosely tighten the rings to take up the slack making sure to leave it just loose enough so you can still rotate the scope by hand. Next you place the leveler base under the turret cluster, then slide the wedge in. The base and wedge have matching angles, so as you slide the wedge in it will rise up and contact the bottom of the turret cluster, and automatically level the scope. Tighten down one ring, remove the leveler, and tighten the other ring. Assuming your scope is half decently made and the reticle is aligned with the turret cluster, you're done.
Some of my friends have been using the prototypes since last summer, helping people at ranges or stores, and we finally decided to make them.
http://i.imgur.com/EjXFmKz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/l3kARnN.jpg
Welp, thats pretty much brilliant.
Something else we're going to release this week besides our vertical grips is a handy little optic leveler tool. There are some out there that work in a similar fashion, but most are dedicated to Picatinny rails. Our design works on one piece scope mounts, like in the pictures below.
These are nice. I was showing it to Pappabear because he has like 14 NightForce scopes. I think I lost him though.... I'll show him these pics.
Will, any chance we will see an inline ring mount for M-Lok or KeyMod hand guards that will place a SF P2X or P3X on the 45's? Or just a ring set up for the current inline mount?
Will, any chance we will see an inline ring mount for M-Lok or KeyMod that will place a SF P2X or P3X on the 45's? Or just a ring set up for the current inline mount?
Yes. We'll be making them after the 45 degree scout mounts. Not sure if before or after the m600 length light bodies, though. It will use our offset positioning design like the inline and 45 scout mounts, too.
Sweet!!! Can I volunteer to be a test dummy?:cool: I need a 45* Scout Mount and a 600 body too. I'm running a Fury Scout and KAC 45* mount on one of my carbines and it works, but an updated 600 body would be a huge improvement.
steyrman13
01-05-15, 21:26
Sweet. I especially like how the malkoff head makes the entire light just a little slimmer and shorter, too.
Something else we're going to release this week besides our vertical grips is a handy little optic leveler tool. There are some out there that work in a similar fashion, but most are dedicated to Picatinny rails. Our design works on one piece scope mounts, like in the pictures below.
How much?!
How much?!
Levelers are $23.
That leveler is very cool. Simplistic elegance.
Stupid question: Is my M620 tail-cap and head compatible with the 300 body?
Stupid question: Is my M620 tail-cap and head compatible with the 300 body?
This is certainly a decent question. Head, no. Tailcap, yes.
The head will probably light up on one battery, but it's going to dim continually as the battery runs down since it'll be past regulation.
You'll have to wait for our M600 sized bodies.
Voodoo_Man
01-06-15, 07:37
http://i.imgur.com/Y1YEUZx.jpg
Malkoff aside I wish the surefire heads weren't so stupid expensive to buy separate.
Malkoff aside I wish the surefire heads weren't so stupid expensive to buy separate.
I wish Solarforce would start ripping off the E series lights like they do the P series. But short of that, if I'm paying up money, I feel a lot better sending it Malkoff's way.
I wish Solarforce would start ripping off the E series lights like they do the P series. But short of that, if I'm paying up money, I feel a lot better sending it Malkoff's way.
We've been discussing the possibility of doing a variant of the upcoming m600 two cell bodies to accept Elzetta heads.
I wish Solarforce would start ripping off the E series lights like they do the P series. But short of that, if I'm paying up money, I feel a lot better sending it Malkoff's way.
No kidding. I could get onboard with that. I'm surprised they haven't. I have a bunch of L2 build components in my cart on lighthound but I haven't pulled the trigger yet.
I'm fine putting out the cash for dedicated WMLs given their need to work, period. But for basic edc stuff I'm fine running non name brand stuff. Solarforce E2 clone would be sweet in that regard.
We've been discussing the possibility of doing a variant of the upcoming m600 two cell bodies to accept Elzetta heads.
Their stuff is pretty hardcore for sure. 900 lumen wml anyone? Or do you mean in a non scout configuration?
I vote for a elzetta m300 compatible body too. Lol
Their stuff is pretty hardcore for sure. 900 lumen wml anyone? Or do you mean in a non scout configuration?
I vote for a elzetta m300 compatible body too. Lol
They don't appear to sell the alpha head on its own, whereas you can buy the AVS for 2/3 cell for $110. Plus, the alpha head is built into the body. Doesn't mean we can't do it, but it would change how we make it.
But yes, we intend to stick to using a scout configuration. The m600 elzetta variant would still use surefire tailcaps. Walt and I do not want to become a complete light manufacturer at this time.
Walt and I do not want to become a complete light manufacturer at this time.
There's only ten thousand other companies competing in that arena. ;)
Used mine to spot a couple coyotes off the back deck last night. Only took a couple shots but it stayed rock solid...
Press Check
01-06-15, 17:02
Malkoff aside I wish the surefire heads weren't so stupid expensive to buy separate.
You and me both. I just paid $171 for a KE1A. Ouch.
You and me both. I just paid $171 for a KE1A. Ouch.
Oof
I can get the light at cost but even at 220$ its still a fair amount of coin.
Gotta pay to play I suppose.
thebarracuda
01-07-15, 16:14
I wish Solarforce would start ripping off the E series lights like they do the P series. But short of that, if I'm paying up money, I feel a lot better sending it Malkoff's way.
Because of this thread, I ordered the Arisaka body and mount, and just got off the phone with the guys at Malkoff. Really nice people. I enjoyed talking to Gene about their products and how they came to be. Looking forward to trying this setup.
(Arisaka KM inline mount/300 body/Malkoff E1 head/Surefire z68 tail switch)
steyrman13
01-07-15, 16:43
Because of this thread, I ordered the Arisaka body and mount, and just got off the phone with the guys at Malkoff. Really nice people. I enjoyed talking to Gene about their products and how they came to be. Looking forward to trying this setup.
(Arisaka KM inline mount/300 body/Malkoff E1 head/Surefire z68 tail switch)
Me too, but waiting on the Malkoff head to come in stock. Did you score one from calling them?
Because of this thread, I ordered the Arisaka body and mount, and just got off the phone with the guys at Malkoff. Really nice people. I enjoyed talking to Gene about their products and how they came to be. Looking forward to trying this setup.
(Arisaka KM inline mount/300 body/Malkoff E1 head/Surefire z68 tail switch)
Gene is super nice. From my conversations with him he seems very down-to-earth. Just hope he gets more heads in soon.
I don't like this pic very much, but it's got a malkoff head in it.
http://i.imgur.com/Vb56HAK.jpg
militarymoron
01-08-15, 00:23
There's only ten thousand other companies competing in that arena. ;)
yeah, but how many making easily available scout-compatible heads? not enough IMHO.
yeah, but how many making easily available scout-compatible heads? not enough IMHO.
Agreed.
Press Check
01-08-15, 11:02
Am I wrong, or does there seem to be a trend gravitating towards using a clicky tailcap? Don't see many lights set-up with a wired switch.
Am I wrong, or does there seem to be a trend gravitating towards using a clicky tailcap? Don't see many lights set-up with a wired switch.
You couldn't pay me to run a wired switch. I'd snag it on everything. And it's another potential failure point. I already hate the idea of anything electronic on my gun. But it's a necessary evil. Keeping it simple is my approach.
Am I wrong, or does there seem to be a trend gravitating towards using a clicky tailcap? Don't see many lights set-up with a wired switch.
I prefer them but it seems that I am in the minority here. IMO, they give me the best option for switching between momentary and constant and I feel like I can activate it easier. I used a zip-tie or two to cinch it onto my C4 rail and haven't had any snag issues yet, but of course, that's just me.
I can snag and/or break anything, and I have horrible luck with anything electronic. ;)
I did like those LaRue clips with wire looms though.
Press Check
01-08-15, 12:48
I prefer them but it seems that I am in the minority here. IMO, they give me the best option for switching between momentary and constant and I feel like I can activate it easier. I used a zip-tie or two to cinch it onto my C4 rail and haven't had any snag issues yet, but of course, that's just me.
Nope, definitely not the minority. I am partial to SR switches and momentary illumination as well.
More prototype show off time. This is a final offset scout mount, fresh off the mill (well 2 days off the mill). It's very thin (4mm), smooth and clean, and the large chamfer on the bottom edge blends in nicely with the NSR.
http://i.imgur.com/5jvl11X.jpg
This is with our 300 series light body, and the light in the 2nd closest position to the top rail. Note the minuscule clearance even with a fairly wide front sight (diamondhead).
http://i.imgur.com/rPFHijQ.jpg
This is a down the rail shot with our body, same position as previous picture (2nd closest to the top rail).
http://i.imgur.com/Sl4PKIy.jpg
And lastly, this is the OEM scout body, which can only fit on the right side of the handguard if you use the 4th position, furthest from the top rail.
http://i.imgur.com/LA34gfq.jpg
This mount will, of course, work on other handguards, not just the NSR, but it won't be tucked in quite as tightly. We had to base it around the NSR because it's the thinnest handguard, width-wise. It still puts the light in a very good position on the MI SSK, Parallax, etc. It even works nicely on the BCM KMR, although the light won't be as close to the surface of the 45 degree flat when compared to our inline mount.
The KeyMod parts will be going to anodizing at the beginning of next week. Probably available after SHOT. Standard disclaimer applies - no promises on release dates. :)
Loving my ring mount and have a finger stop!!!
Well. I'll be buying that for my NSR asap to replace my noveske mount.
Slippers. I'm also loving the finger stop more than I thought I would.
Will it work on an LMT LM8 rail?
Voodoo_Man
01-09-15, 07:30
http://i.imgur.com/DD1lrPx.jpg
Will it work on an LMT LM8 rail?
No, the recoil lug on the backside and the reverse threaded BCM keymod screws are definitely not going to work on an LM8.
Received my scope leveler yesterday. Same outstanding quality as previously purchased KeyMod finger stop and ring mount.
Thanks Will!
-Rainman
FYI for anyone wanting a E1/m300 Malkoff head for their Arisaka Defense m300 body, Brightflashlights has these in stock for $71.75 shipped.
militarymoron
01-14-15, 11:13
FYI for anyone wanting a E1/m300 Malkoff head for their Arisaka Defense m300 body, Brightflashlights has these in stock for $71.75 shipped.
i don't see it on their malkoff page. got a link?
edited to add: i called and they had one left. snagged it :-)
thanks for the heads up!
Slippers, any thought on building an offset pick mount for a WML or X300?
Man just missed it got put on the reserve/notify when in stock list
i don't see it on their malkoff page. got a link?
edited to add: i called and they had one left. snagged it :-)
thanks for the heads up!
Send 'em an email. That's where I got mine.
Slippers, any thought on building an offset pick mount for a WML or X300?
This x2 please.
Slippers, any thought on building an offset pick mount for a WML or X300?
This x2 please.
I don't know if we can make something that is better than what is currently on the market. Is there a specific setup that you have in mind?
militarymoron
01-14-15, 14:00
I don't know if we can make something that is better than what is currently on the market. Is there a specific setup that you have in mind?
Personally, i'd like to see an X300 mount similar to your scout mount, that allows a bit of cantilevering out front, adjustment from side to side (for front sight clearance), and eliminates the X300 rail clamps (you'd remove the rail clamps on the X300 and direct-attach it to the mounting plate to tuck it in better). it can either be a keymod-compatible version, or a picatinny version.
Personally, i'd like to see an X300 mount similar to your scout mount, that allows a bit of cantilevering out front, adjustment from side to side (for front sight clearance), and eliminates the X300 rail clamps (you'd remove the rail clamps on the X300 and direct-attach it to the mounting plate to tuck it in better). it can either be a keymod-compatible version, or a picatinny version.
It'd almost have to be two pieces, due to the way the x300 would attach. A plate that replaces the picatinny mount on the x300, and then something like the inline to attach to it. The plate on the x300 would have a series of holes cross-wise so you can adjust the left-to-right location.
Considering how bulky the x300 is, I don't know how close it would actually sit to the top rail, though.
The current products on the market are a 3 key system that seems like it only needs to be 2 and kicks the WML a little too far out to the side. I need it just to clear a troy front sight. I will buy three of them.
The current products on the market are a 3 key system that seems like it only needs to be 2 and kicks the WML a little too far out to the side. I need it just to clear a troy front sight. I will buy three of them.
Are you looking for a mount that attaches at 3 or 9 o'clock or one that uses a top 45 degree mounting surface like the KMR/URX4/MK8?
One that uses a top 45 degree mounting surface or could attach at 3:00 and fit in on the 45 above.
steyrman13
01-15-15, 16:32
Malkoff Heads for Scout M300 back in stock!
Just picked on up. Where are you guys getting the pressure switch end cap?
Better snag a head fast, there are only 6 left as of this post.
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/malkoff-devices-flashlights/malkoff-edc-flashlights/e1-scout-m300-1cr123-head
Voodoo_Man
01-15-15, 17:08
Better snag a head fast, there are only 6 left as of this post.
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/malkoff-devices-flashlights/malkoff-edc-flashlights/e1-scout-m300-1cr123-head
dang, missed it.
I got the in stock notification via email at 1724. Got online at 1745 and they were oos. Damn.
Going to order a 300B now.....
There must be a slightly high demand. I guess I will have to manage with the Mini Scout mounted for now, while we all play pounce on the notification reminiscent of 2013.
steyrman13
01-15-15, 19:32
There must be a slightly high demand. I guess I will have to manage with the Mini Scout mounted for now, while we all play pounce on the notification reminiscent of 2013.
Email Brightflashlights.com
This is their reply to me today:
"They should be here Mon. or Tues. and it'll be $72.00 delivered. If you're still interested I can put you on the reserve list.
Let me know if I can help.
Below are the available payment options/details and our contact info:
If you're in the State of Florida we do have to charge 6% sales tax.
We have VISA, M/C (including debit cards), Discover & American Express acceptance by phone, you can reach us at - (352) 732-2156 from 11:00am - 8:00pm EST Mon. - Fri. or from 11:30am - 4:00pm EST on Sat. If you're on the West coast we can also call you after hours if you wish to send your ph. #. and it's before 10pm EST.
For Paypal: due to their higher processing fees please add 1% (of the order total) and send payment to this email address --
brightflashlights@gmail.com
Here are my regular mail payment options & terms for online transactions:
I prefer a US Postal or Western Union money order because that's what I'm most comfortable dealing with and there would be no wait to clear. With a USPS m.o. the purchaser has protections as well. Certified funds/Cashiers check are fine also but personal checks will have to clear first (5-7days). I always confirm when payment has arrived and package goes out. I have a long list of references if desired.
Please confirm & please send ship to address.
Please make check or m.o. payable to (& send payment to):
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Thank You."
Press Check
01-15-15, 20:11
I got the in stock notification via email at 1724. Got online at 1745 and they were oos. Damn.
Going to order a 300B now.....
Strange, I got the email notification at 1424.
steyrman13
01-15-15, 20:24
Strange, I got the email notification at 1424.
I got it at 1624. I think it is based off a waiting list maybe in a priority because all of our times were 24 after the hour.
ScatmanCrothers
01-16-15, 08:46
I got the same email from brightflashlights as steyrman except they also said they have the E2 in stock right now if anybody needs one. Same timeframe for E1's.
Is anybody running the VME with a H31? It's slightly wider than the E1 but the one I had a few years back was a solid head that worked well with an e1e. Might get one of those to try out on the Arisaka body as well, just wondering if they've been talked about as far as clearance with these new components that are close to the rail?
I got the same email from brightflashlights as steyrman except they also said they have the E2 in stock right now if anybody needs one. Same timeframe for E1's.
Is anybody running the VME with a H31? It's slightly wider than the E1 but the one I had a few years back was a solid head that worked well with an e1e. Might get one of those to try out on the Arisaka body as well, just wondering if they've been talked about as far as clearance with these new components that are close to the rail?
Sorry, I don't have a VME head to test with. The OD of the stock KE1A is 1.125" at the front and a little wider at the wrench flats. The Malkoff E1/Scout is a little smaller and tapers towards the rear. If you have the VME diameter this can give you a comparison.
jcalvert86
01-16-15, 09:05
Has anyone already called Malkoff to inquire about the next restock?
Malkoff just listed more in stock.
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/malkoff-devices-flashlights/malkoff-edc-flashlights/e1-scout-m300-1cr123-head?cPath=1_14_50&
Voodoo_Man
01-16-15, 12:28
http://i.imgur.com/yRrsgjt.jpg
jcalvert86
01-16-15, 13:27
Malkoff just listed more in stock.
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/malkoff-devices-flashlights/malkoff-edc-flashlights/e1-scout-m300-1cr123-head?cPath=1_14_50&
Yep... snagged one this time.
Yep... snagged one this time.
x2. I just ordered a surefire 300b too earlier in the day. Oh, well. Can never have to many weapon lights
Jwknutson17
01-16-15, 15:07
Got the Arisaka body and Malkoff head inbound. Using my extra surefire tailcap, Ill be set up for 140 bucks. Cant beat that!
600 series bodies on the lathe today:
http://i.imgur.com/vcSZFCn.jpg
Is there an ETA or pre-order or wait list for the 45deg offset scout mount? I just picked up a malkoff head/arisaka body & have an NSR. Wondering if I should go ahead & buy a Noveske mount or wait it out.
I also have one of the inline scout mounts for my Recce's M600u and it's awesome.
Is there an ETA or pre-order or wait list for the 45deg offset scout mount? I just picked up a malkoff head/arisaka body & have an NSR. Wondering if I should go ahead & buy a Noveske mount or wait it out.
I also have one of the inline scout mounts for my Recce's M600u and it's awesome.
They are at anodizing right now. Should be available after shot show. :)
Will the vfg work on KAC urx3 rails?
bowman57_2
01-16-15, 22:28
is your vfg going to mount up similar to a magpul mvg or are you going to make the keymod and mlok compatible?
600 series bodies on the lathe today:
Very cool. I'm looking forward to this for a 16" gun of mine that sorely needs a light.
Malkoff just listed more in stock.
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/malkoff-devices-flashlights/malkoff-edc-flashlights/e1-scout-m300-1cr123-head?cPath=1_14_50&
I was surprised to see that today, but I would not be denied again.
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