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Eurodriver
12-07-14, 05:51
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/07/la-senate-race/

Of course now we will hear how it doesn't matter ...

Let's just hope the Republicans play it cool for 23 months and run a solid POTUS candidate.

Averageman
12-07-14, 06:18
That's good news.
I hear the Dem's quit giving her funds as soon as it looked like a contest. They pulled their money and left her in the breeze.
I'm so pissed at the GOP as it looks like we will likely get another Bush or a Romney rather than a Republican.

Eurodriver
12-07-14, 06:50
I'm so pissed at the GOP as it looks like we will likely get another Bush or a Romney rather than a Republican.

What you should be thinking is not "We will get a Bush or Romney rather than a Republican", but rather that Bush and Romney are actually very good representations of the Republican party.

No.6
12-07-14, 07:22
What you should be thinking is not "We will get a Bush or Romney rather than a Republican", but rather that Bush and Romney are actually very good representations of the Republican party.

From what I've seen of the GOP in the past decade, Hillary is a good representation of the Republicans.

Averageman
12-07-14, 08:03
What you should be thinking is not "We will get a Bush or Romney rather than a Republican", but rather that Bush and Romney are actually very good representations of the Republican party.

That may be what the Republicans have turned in to, it isn't what they were when I was younger.

ABNAK
12-07-14, 08:22
What you should be thinking is not "We will get a Bush or Romney rather than a Republican", but rather that Bush and Romney are actually very good representations of the Republican party.

No they're not. They're excellent representations of RINO's though, and I will dare to make that distinction. The party is currently divided into 2 camps IMHO: Conservatives (the dreaded "Tea Party" types) and RINO's. You're either one or the other if you consider yourself a Republican......outliers are either Libtards or Libertarians.

Abraham
12-07-14, 10:44
I don't consider myself a Republican. Though, in the most recent election I voted a straight Republican ticket.

I'm a very conservative Independent.

I vote as I see fit.

MountainRaven
12-07-14, 14:30
That may be what the Republicans have turned in to, it isn't what they were when I was younger.

I remember my High School statistics teacher telling the us once (must have been about 2001, maybe 2002) that he didn't leave the Republican party, the Republican party left him.

ABNAK
12-07-14, 18:28
I don't consider myself a Republican. Though, in the most recent election I voted a straight Republican ticket.

I'm a very conservative Independent.

I vote as I see fit.

Well yeah, that's the idea.

So, you're a "very conservative independent", huh? Care to tell when the last time you voted Democrat because he/she was "very conservative"? So while you're not a card-carrying Republican (neither am I), "independent" may not be an entirely accurate description given which party is most likely to attract your "very conservative" vote.

I've never hit a "D" lever in my life, and I'm 49. You may be old enough to actually have had a chance to see a Democrat who was conservative back in the day, but Zell Miller is the most recent I can think of and even that was well over a decade ago.....and an example of one. I happen to vote Republican not because I consider myself a Republican, but because they most often align with my conservative views. Lately they've been pushing the envelope, and if we get another Romney/Christy/Bush in 2016 I will skip the POTUS lever for the first time in my life.

SeriousStudent
12-07-14, 18:33
Don't smack each other in the head.

Eurodriver
12-07-14, 18:34
Well yeah, that's the idea.

So, you're a "very conservative independent", huh? Care to tell when the last time you voted Democrat because he/she was "very conservative"? So while you're not a card-carrying Republican (neither am I), "independent" may not be an entirely accurate description given which party is most likely to attract your "very conservative" vote.

I've never hit a "D" lever in my life, and I'm 49. You may be old enough to actually have had a chance to see a Democrat who was conservative back in the day, but Zell Miller is the most recent I can think of and even that was well over a decade ago.....and an example of one. I happen to vote Republican not because I consider myself a Republican, but because they most often align with my conservative views. Lately they've been pushing the envelope, and if we get another Romney/Christy/Bush in 2016 I will skip the POTUS lever for the first time in my life.

I know you didn't ask me, but there are plenty of Democrats that are pretty conservative around here.

I've voted for a few, mostly local elections for Sheriff and state house. The Democratic Sheriffs in particular are very anti-War on Drugs, and some of the local D politicians are actually pretty good about keeping tabs on the local monopolies (cable, public utilities, electric, etc)

ABNAK
12-07-14, 19:08
I know you didn't ask me, but there are plenty of Democrats that are pretty conservative around here.

I've voted for a few, mostly local elections for Sheriff and state house. The Democratic Sheriffs in particular are very anti-War on Drugs, and some of the local D politicians are actually pretty good about keeping tabs on the local monopolies (cable, public utilities, electric, etc)

I was mainly referring to state and national races.

Sadly, I don't vote in the local races (yeah I know I should make myself more familiar with the goings-on locally) but that would probably be the ONLY time I'd ever consider hitting the "D" lever.

Eurodriver
12-07-14, 19:15
My view is that in order to run at the state or national level as a D you must be so far to the left you'll never get my vote.

Unfortunately, that never seems to apply in the reverse to Republicans.

ABNAK
12-07-14, 19:19
My view is that in order to run at the state or national level as a D you must be so far to the left you'll never get my vote.

Unfortunately, that never seems to apply in the reverse to Republicans.

Boy, ain't that the truth! The Dems can run Obama (who you can't tell me wasn't KNOWN as a damn socialist) but the Republicans have to run a milquetoast RINO! :suicide2:

MountainRaven
12-07-14, 22:57
I was mainly referring to state and national races.

Sadly, I don't vote in the local races (yeah I know I should make myself more familiar with the goings-on locally) but that would probably be the ONLY time I'd ever consider hitting the "D" lever.

I think it's unfortunate that you don't vote in the local elections. Because, frankly, that's the only place in our government where your voice really matters.

Although, I suppose you might be a billionaire. In which case, yeah, your voice matters at the federal level.

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-08-14, 06:40
And in local races, primaries are almost more important than the generals. Sure, state rep and senate races often might change up a bit, but at the city and county level it seems even then most races are decided in the primaries.

ABNAK
12-08-14, 09:12
I think it's unfortunate that you don't vote in the local elections. Because, frankly, that's the only place in our government where your voice really matters.

Although, I suppose you might be a billionaire. In which case, yeah, your voice matters at the federal level.

Hey, the saying says "Every vote counts", right? ;)

Billionaire? LOL! You'd have to move the decimal point way to the left to capture our household income!

I will vote local stuff if it is something I am familiar with like ballot initiatives and the like. I try not to vote on something or someone I'm not knowledgeable about (wish others would do the same, especially at the national level).

skydivr
12-08-14, 09:30
I'm telling you, Ted Cruz, Alan West and Trey Gowdy need to announce as a TICKET up front, and campaign TOGETHER as a TICKET against the RINO challengers...They will have to come up with something unique in order to get around the GOP machine...

MountainRaven
12-08-14, 14:26
Hey, the saying says "Every vote counts", right? ;)

Billionaire? LOL! You'd have to move the decimal point way to the left to capture our household income!

I will vote local stuff if it is something I am familiar with like ballot initiatives and the like. I try not to vote on something or someone I'm not knowledgeable about (wish others would do the same, especially at the national level).

Here's a liberal take on it:

(It's a pretty funny take, though.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMgfBZrrZ8

brickboy240
12-08-14, 14:32
I often feel that our local races are more important than the national ones.

Quite a bit of America is in love with liberalism and will always vote for people like Obama, Reid and Pelosi. I cannot help these people...really.

However, on a local level, judge races, state reps and state senator races affect me in my neighborhood and oh yes...they are very important.

ABNAK
12-08-14, 14:40
Here's a liberal take on it:

(It's a pretty funny take, though.)



Started watching it but about 5 minutes into it the libtard slant really began to shine through. Nonetheless it was mainly referring to state races, which I do vote in. It's the county/city races where I come up short, unless it's a ballot initiative.

brickboy240
12-08-14, 15:45
Actually...many city and county candidates and elected officials EXPECT you and yours to not pay attention to their piddly little race and stay home. They often place these smaller elections and referendums on odd weekends and off dates....hoping most of the public will forget or not pay attention. turn out on these types of elections are crazy low.

This is how many very bad politicians get their start and where many bad local policies and new taxes come from. Haven't you ever wondered how the hell a certain law, ordinance or bond got passed? Well...there you have it! LOL

If you ask me..it ALL matters. Don't let some crap weasel politician strip mine your interests out from under you right in your own back yard.

ABNAK
12-08-14, 20:32
Actually...many city and county candidates and elected officials EXPECT you and yours to not pay attention to their piddly little race and stay home. They often place these smaller elections and referendums on odd weekends and off dates....hoping most of the public will forget or not pay attention. turn out on these types of elections are crazy low.

This is how many very bad politicians get their start and where many bad local policies and new taxes come from. Haven't you ever wondered how the hell a certain law, ordinance or bond got passed? Well...there you have it! LOL

If you ask me..it ALL matters. Don't let some crap weasel politician strip mine your interests out from under you right in your own back yard.

Hey look man, I readily fessed up to falling short in the local races. It's an area I need to improve on. I will say that I live out in the sticks so big-city politics (where most of these "very bad politicians" come from) is verboten for me to vote in anyway. For instance, if I lived in Nashville you're damn right I'd be voting, as it's a libtard bastion of "gimme's" and do-gooders. Alas I live (by choice) a good distance away. Out here it's usually "good ol' boy" politics and even if it's a Democrat they don't fit the usual, modern "D" profile.

As an example, one local race I would have voted in if I had been in that venue was a few years ago where some POS "Boss Hog" type had established his own little fiefdom in a rural community that burgeoned to a 30-man PD and was a revenue generating machine. In fact, Chapmansboro was on the national AAA watchlist to try to avoid. Although I lived (at the time) in the little community right next door I would have relished the ability to vote that mother***** out of office. It didn't matter as the residents did the deed themselves. Now they are a more "friendly" environ and their PD has ~ 5 officers IIRC. So yes, even in a rural area I would bone up on things if this kind of shit was going on.